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Arenas would have "no problem" playing for Wizards [UPDATED]

Since pleading guilty to a felony gun charge and receiving a subsequent season-ending suspension from the NBA, Gilbert Arenas has done what most thought he was incapable of achieving: He has maintained a low profile. Other than a brief comment about his suspension and an opinion piece in The Washington Post, Arenas hasn't said much of anything publicly.

But on Tuesday, Arenas told the Associated Press that he would have "no problem" playing for the Washington Wizards again. In the days and weeks after he received an indefinite suspension following his behavior and comments in Philadelphia in early January, Arenas had been telling those close to him that he had no desire to play for team President Ernie Grunfeld again.

Arenas, who averaged 22.6 points and 7.2 assists in 32 games this season, is still owed more than $80 million over the next four seasons.

"I have no problem," Arenas said. "Basketball is basketball. I don't think people realize that. No matter what city, overseas, D-league, park league -- I just want to play."

The Wizards made several moves to distance themselves from Arenas, such as taking down a banner emblazoned with his image and refusing to sell his jersey and other Arenas merchandise at Verizon Center. But in a news conference after the Feb. 18 trade deadline, Grunfeld said that Arenas was "part of this organization and he's under contract and if he wants to play, this is the place where he's going to play."

Grunfeld also said that Arenas has been working out with team trainers outside of the Wizards' facility. "You've got to remember: I've been hurt for two years before this, and so I did all my stir-crazy moments then," he said. "So now it's like 'I'm used to this, I'm used to this time off.' Just play with the kids, be a father."

Grunfeld hasn't spoken directly to Arenas in some time, but Arenas remains in contact with the training staff and has also talked to Coach Flip Saunders. Arenas added that the decision to come back is not up to him.

"That's up to the city and the owners," Arenas said. "It's out of my hands."

His practice jersey and shorts were recently spotted in his locker room stall. While distributing used fur coats to needy people during an appearance at a Rachel Women's Center on behalf of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, Arenas told the AP that he has "a lot of free time." The AP was the only news outlet allowed to cover the event.

Arenas said he is not nervous about his sentencing on March 26, as long as the judge relies on the "real story" about what happened when he brought guns to the locker room in a dispute with Javaris Crittenton on Dec. 21.

"If the judge goes off with the story the papers write, then, yeah," Arenas said. "But if he goes off the actual real story, then I have no problems with it."

Updated at 8:50 p.m. with more quotes from Arenas.

By Michael Lee  |  March 2, 2010; 4:55 PM ET
 
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HIBACHI

Posted by: DCHeel5 | March 2, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Translation of Gil's "no problem" comment:

"I've finally come to the realization that the only thing I run in the organization is my mouth."

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 2, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jeffco01 | March 2, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I will say it again for a variety of reasons, stay away from ISO-JOE JOHNSON. We just got rid of that type of personnel, or at least, most of them.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Another thing, Arenas should refrain from commenting on his upcoming sentencing in manner, shape or form. Even the seemingly innocuous quote above about the judge could be construed as condescending, as if the judge doesn't know how to do his job.
Button it up, Gil!

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 2, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Translation: I've been told I won't/can't be traded and that I'd better start get used to the idea of being a Wizard again next year.

Not a bad situation. I think he might have a breakout year, enabling us to trade him for a lot more later down the line. Of course Flip's head will explode if this happens, but he'll just have to suck it up.

Posted by: ArchieTambo | March 2, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Questions:
If Gil as testified in court already, isn't his testimony a "matter of public record"?

If so, shouldn't we all be able to read the transcripts from the proceedings and thereby all know "the real story"?

If the answer is yes, where can one find said transcripts?

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

By both EG and Gil saying they can see a return by Gil to the Wiz, what we are seeing are the first steps of a negotiation buyout. The March 26 sentencing will provide more clues.

If the buyout doesn't work out, then the fallback is that Gil plays as a Wiz again (unfortunately for the Wiz, in my view).

Will a buyout happen? Yes, but only if Gil gives up half or so of his contract--believing that he can make up the other $40 million over those same years from another team. Gil has a strong enough mind to believe he can get the other $40 million from some team, and likely from a team he would like to play for.

Posted by: EdDC | March 2, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Arenas says he would have "no problem" playing again for Wizards

What other organization is in as bad as shape as the Wizards that would want Gil playing for them?

None...

since he has a contract with the Wizards the only option Gil has is to play for them or go overseas.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 2, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Really....

I don't think any NBA ballers would have an issue with collection $80 mil over 4 years.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 2, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

So in an attempt to answer my own question, I googled Arenas transcripts and found another incident Gil got involved in I had forgotten about.
The time he and Awvee Story got arrested in Miami.
Gil, I luv ya, and want you back on the floor with the Zards, but you've got to consider seeing a Shrink.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Blurred--I would be totally cool with moving Nick plus something/someone for Maynor. Part of our pitch to these young talents is: come here and you'll get serious PT and be a go-to guy.

Posted by: jweber1 | March 2, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

trade 2 players for Eric Maynor? And you guys talk about EG. We're gonna trade a player who our coaches won't let off the bench + another guy for a rookie who's on his second team and got to play for neither. Maybe Maynor was quick and tough enough to hang in VCU's conference (CAA or something) but clearly he's no one's answer at pg; and i think Jerry Sloan knows a thing or two about coaching the PG position and the requisite personnel.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Another thing, Arenas should refrain from commenting on his upcoming sentencing in manner, shape or form. Even the seemingly innocuous quote above about the judge could be construed as condescending, as if the judge doesn't know how to do his job.
Button it up, Gil!

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 2, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

i agree homie. And i am the last person to buy into the "Gil is a horrible guy"hype ; but c'mon son! THE JUDGE? He's not nervous as long as the judge goes by the "real story"? Have people been going by the fake story? (in court i mean) Gilbert Arenas keep it tight until after sentencing. Remember, your indefinite suspension came on the heels of you calling commisioner stern mean.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

So in an attempt to answer my own question, I googled Arenas transcripts and found another incident Gil got involved in I had forgotten about.
The time he and Awvee Story got arrested in Miami.
Gil, I luv ya, and want you back on the floor with the Zards, but you've got to consider seeing a Shrink.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

not calling you out Bozomoeman, but isn't it funny how a guy like gil effs up and he needs to see a shrink, but a guy like pro hockey player Pat Kane can hospitalize a taxi driver over a 2 cent fare, and go on to represent his country in the olympics? I

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Questions:
If Gil as testified in court already, isn't his testimony a "matter of public record"?

If so, shouldn't we all be able to read the transcripts from the proceedings and thereby all know "the real story"?

If the answer is yes, where can one find said transcripts?

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't the sentencing phase have to be triggered first?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Gil and NY were our most effective backcourt this season (for whatever that's worth). Assuming Gil's back....who plays the 2 spot?

We know it's not going to be NY.

Can Thornton possibly roll at 2 or is his handle insufficient?

What type of blowout did Josh Howard have? Will he be healthy to play by October or was it worse than that? Could be the choice comes down to signing Miller or Howard with Miller likely drawing more interest from other teams given Howard's injury

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

So in an attempt to answer my own question, I googled Arenas transcripts and found another incident Gil got involved in I had forgotten about.
The time he and Awvee Story got arrested in Miami.
Gil, I luv ya, and want you back on the floor with the Zards, but you've got to consider seeing a Shrink.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

not calling you out Bozomoeman, but isn't it funny how a guy like gil effs up and he needs to see a shrink, but a guy like pro hockey player Pat Kane can hospitalize a taxi driver over a 2 cent fare, and go on to represent his country in the olympics? I

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't AWVEE STORY the one GIL had the tires taken off his VC stored vehicle - twice, while the club was on the road.

And as to the second point. Well taken. Ah, the vagaries of different judicial districts.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

What type of blowout did Josh Howard have? Will he be healthy to play by October or was it worse than that? Could be the choice comes down to signing Miller or Howard with Miller likely drawing more interest from other teams given Howard's injury


Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

ACL sounds pretty bad, but I don't really know. I'm not sure any medical diagnosis has been disclosed yet, or any re-hab time-table set.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

If we pick a great #1 in the draft, does he get burn under FS, or ride the pine ala NY?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Flip will make Nick carry our #1 pick's bags next season.

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Flip will make Nick carry our #1 pick's bags next season.

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Sounds right.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 6:36 PM | Report abuse

I disagree with people thinking Gil is worried about money or knows that he cant be traded. I think Gil likes the fact that we made these trades and it can be soley his team now. I dont think he wanted Caron anymore and I think he likes the way Blatche is playing way more than what he saw from AJ. He also knows that we have cap room to maybe add a stud and we will get a solid pick. This team has way better chemistry so why not come back to this team?

On top of that, I think he is one of those guys who has alot of pride and he doesnt want to run out on this team with an unfinished job. He doesnt want to ride someone elses coat tails to a title. He probably thinks its his team now and we can win. Again, dont take it out of context. I dont think he plans on gunning at all. I think he will play team ball and will try to make it work. Im not 100% sure he loves Flip's system from a scoring standpoint of a PG but I think he will try to tell Flip to give him a few EJ plays each game and everything will be fine

Posted by: dlts20 | March 2, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

You've got to figure that Gilbert made these ill-advised comments against the direct orders of his attorney not to say anything to anyone about the sentencing. The point: Even in this incredibly pathetic and desperate state, Gilbert has no self-control.

Posted by: jweber1 | March 2, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

The "real story" is that he pleaded guilty to felony. This is a second gun-related offense. He made a mockery of system in Philadelphia. He hasn't shown remorse (other than a press release written by his lawyer).

The standard fare given the prosecutor's statement and the real story is some time. He doesn't get it. I guess he will be appealing.

Posted by: Izman | March 2, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010

No affront taken. I hadn't even heard about that one...wonder why that wasn't discussed ad nauseam on talk radio? Or why Hockey Players aren't labelled "Thugs".


@glawrence007
I suppose, but the Arenas/Story issue in Miami was a minor infraction in Miami Beach. Somehow hospitalizing a Cabby seems a bit more heinous.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

@glawrence007
I suppose, but the Arenas/Story issue in Miami was a minor infraction in Miami Beach. Somehow hospitalizing a Cabby seems a bit more heinous.

Posted by: bozomoeman | March 2, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Agree. I was just asking the question, and pointing out that GIL and AWVEE either had a history together, or initiated one with that squabble.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

With this new athletic lineup, the Wizards will be fortunate if Gilbert is paired in the backcourt with Nick Young next season.

Blatche/Thornton/McGee/Arenas/Young is a competitive starting five in the East.

Posted by: musicmanjr | March 2, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Blatche/Thornton/McGee/Arenas/Young is a competitive starting five in the East.

Posted by: musicmanjr | March 2, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, the past few games have been against fairly lackluster competition. Let's see how things go against the HAWKS, HEAT, CELTICS, CAVS et al before anointing them NBA champs.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

We are so stuck with Gilbert and his crazy, no-defense playing ways as long as Grunfeld is around. I feel totally hustled by the way this organization has played this. They make it seem like Gilbert is out of here and now he's working out with team trainers and everyone is best friends again. You bring him back and the entire offense returns to a focus on Gilbert and everyone standing around waiting for their turn to shoot the ball. As for defense, you've got your $100 million franchise player letting opposing point guards get wherever they want.

Posted by: jweber1 | March 2, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

As for defense, you've got your $100 million franchise player letting opposing point guards get wherever they want.

Posted by: jweber1 | March 2, 2010 9:53 PM

Not sure if you've been watching, but opposing guard are currently getting whatever they want meanwhile Foye is scoring 1/2 as much as Arenas was and getting less assists.

Of course, know exactly what you mean about everyone standing around waiting on Gil and that's something that has to be changed....but the departure of AJ/CB probably lessens the black holishness of the offense even upon Gil's return.

Still think EG would move Gil if he could, but he's not going to be able to so we get at least 1 more season with him

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

gilbert is only an asset if he loses his childish ways. if he wants to be a comedian he needs to take his game to the Improv comedy club. plus there's no guarantee he won't get detention. if he wants to play basketball, cut the crap and work on defense, move the ball around, it will probably end up back in his hands and then maybe shoot, but it should definitely move around some first. i'm not totally opposed to him playing in DC, i am opposed to him coming back with the same BS that got him sent to the principal's office. sometimes a player gets a second chance and makes good(see artest), whether gilbert has it in him to do that is yet to be seen. going on the words coming out of his mouth in this article makes me think not.

Posted by: joerutgens72 | March 2, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

"Not sure if you've been watching, but opposing guard are currently getting whatever they want meanwhile Foye is scoring 1/2 as much as Arenas was and getting less assists."

Yes and no. Foye's the better defender, if mostly because he tries where Gilbert doesn't. Nobody would suggest Foye is Arenas' equal as a scorer, but he's done a good job in the clutch and he's really reduced the turnovers that plagued Arenas in the first part of the season. To me that's a big if unheralded part of the Wiz' success in recent weeks.

One thing that's become increasingly clear to me is that McGee is not yet an NBA center. He's been abused on a regular basis by stronger players who simply bully him down low. It's the same problem he had last year. He's more skilled this season, and more determined, but he shows the signs of somebody who may never be heavy enough to dominate in the paint. Doesn't mean he can't be a successful NBA player. Just that he may always have significant matchup problems against the league's true big men.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 2, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

If Gil is healthy and plays well, why would they trade him? The problem with the Wizards was Gil and the other ball hogs having no chemistry all of a sudden. I can see him fitting in with this "new team."

Posted by: dcwizard | March 2, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

On the balance I think Gil is light years superior to Foye, imo randy has had some really bad games though it's good to see him hitting the big shots for sure.

agree mcgee isnt ready yet, but that's why we play him now when it doesnt matter anyway. He may always have problem with the real bigs cause he may be lanky forever, but he's got the potential to be a nightmare matchup in his own right

gotta coach'em up!

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

gotta coach'em up!

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Right. Let's coach 'um up!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 2, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

"On the balance I think Gil is light years superior to Foye, imo randy has had some really bad games though it's good to see him hitting the big shots for sure.

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse "

And Randy is on the court helping his team while Gilby is hurting his team.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 2, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"Not sure if you've been watching, but opposing guard are currently getting whatever they want meanwhile Foye is scoring 1/2 as much as Arenas was and getting less assists.

Of course, know exactly what you mean about everyone standing around waiting on Gil and that's something that has to be changed....but the departure of AJ/CB probably lessens the black holishness of the offense even upon Gil's return.

Still think EG would move Gil if he could, but he's not going to be able to so we get at least 1 more season with him

Posted by: divi3 | March 2, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse "

You are stupid as usual as you make BS up just to boost up Gilby.

NJ: Harris scores 18, Foye scores 16
NY: Rodriquez scores 5, Foye scores 22
Memphis: Conley scores 2, Foye scores 8
Chicago: Hinrich scores 6, Foye scores 16

Foye is not a high volume scoring machine, but now he's forced to play PG when he's really a SG since Gilby got himself thrown out of the league this season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 2, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Isn't JoHo's contract a team option next year? Does anybody think we pick that up? Good lord I hope we don't. The last thing we need is another headcase in the lockeroom.

McGee
Blatche
Thornton
???
Arenas

Not nearly as bad as I thought it would be coming in 2 weeks ago. Jury is still out on Blatche but the promise is there. McGee will go through growing pains. Need a defensive minded 2 guard to fill in although I wouldn't mind resigning Miller to fill the role of glue guy.

Posted by: dcmc8377 | March 2, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Of course, know exactly what you mean about everyone standing around waiting on Gil and that's something that has to be changed....but the departure of AJ/CB probably lessens the black holishness of the offense even upon Gil's return


When Gil was playing he'd be the primary ball handler and AJ and CB would drift over to their sweet spots. BTH was one of the only one moving to the rim most of the time and that is why he was the main beneficiary of Gils 7asst per gm. I think that the players we have now are more active and open to recieving the ball wherever they can get it.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

If the Gilbert quotes in this article are accurate, and that is a BIG IF -- I am extremely disappointed in what I am hearing from him. The quote re. the severity of his sentencing depending on which story the sentencing judge believes is clear indication to me that Gilbert still does not get it. He appears to still blame others for his mistakes and seems to have reflected little on his own actions.

I am a big Arenas apologist, but I predict future turmoil for Gilbert and the Wizards if he has not or does not engage in a thorough self-evaluation that detours him from the immature and self-indulgent path he has trod. I know from whence I speak.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | March 3, 2010 4:36 AM | Report abuse

First, Gilbert is poison to this team. He doesn’t play within the team concept, offensively or defensively. He’s a great scorer at the expense of the rest of the team. He allows the opposition to have great scoring nights as well. The team needs him to go. And, I believe he wants to go. Now it’s all about the money. Grunfeld is trying to tell Gibert if you want out of here you’re going have to come up with some big buyout bucks. Gilbert is saying I’d be happy to stay but if you want to get rid of me it’s going to be a trade or the team can pay me handsomely to leave. These little PR comments are simply posturing to strengthen negotiating positions.

Posted by: Potomac11 | March 3, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

Need a defensive minded 2 guard to fill in although I wouldn't mind resigning Miller to fill the role of glue guy.

Posted by: dcmc8377 | March 2, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Me neither, but the guy is being paid $09,750,000 now. I'm sure he would want at least a modest raise. As I've said here before, I don't think glue is worth that much, but maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 3, 2010 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Leave the man alone! He didn't say anything that could harm him as far as sentencing is concerned. He only said he wasn't nervous unless the judge goes off the story in the paper instead of what actually happpened. I don't see anything wrong with what he said. With Gil it seems people either love him or hate him and he can't seem to please anyone. I wish him the best and if he is with this team then I have to support him because I support the Wiz. Everyone deserves to be redeemed. Everyone. Because we have all done some things that we wish we hadn't at one point or another.

Posted by: ivyleague | March 3, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

"Gilbert is poison to this team...."
"Leave the man alone!"

Now there's a dicotomy of opinion.

For myself I'd prefer him gone, but short of years in jail time, I can't see him going ANYWHERE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 3, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Leave the man alone! He didn't say anything that could harm him as far as sentencing is concerned. He only said he wasn't nervous unless the judge goes off the story in the paper instead of what actually happpened. I don't see anything wrong with what he said. With Gil it seems people either love him or hate him and he can't seem to please anyone. I wish him the best and if he is with this team then I have to support him because I support the Wiz. Everyone deserves to be redeemed. Everyone. Because we have all done some things that we wish we hadn't at one point or another.

Posted by: ivyleague | March 3, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

what's wrong with it is that a judge might be insulted, by asomething that could possibly be perceived as an insinuation that the judge would sentence him based on anything but the truth. Imagine it was someone referring to you and the way you do your job. I'm not worried about Ivyleague posting on wizinsider as long as he doesn't talk out his a$$. Mildly extreme, but not by much. To assume that a federal judge in the nations capitol would rule based on anything but the truth (affadavits, different testimonies, whatever he plead guilty to) could be considered a slight or a shot at the judges integrity. If the judge ain't trippin you are right it's nothing. But can you imagine the judge changing his mind "based on his recent behavior....." a la stern.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Just say NO! No to Arenas!! We finally got the bad air out of hear, don't starting letting it back in. It's nice to see a new energy with unselfish players, don't destroy with that flake!!

Posted by: slimjim21787 | March 3, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

gil was avg'ing just about 7 assts per before the gun incident. he sure liked to jack it, his statline shows that, but what it also shows is that he was dishin it more than any guard we've used this year. His numbers mighta been higher if haywood could finished better or CB wasn't so off his game early in the season. Maybe personally selfish, but i think he puts it on the line from tip to buzzer.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

trade 2 players for Eric Maynor? And you guys talk about EG. We're gonna trade a player who our coaches won't let off the bench + another guy for a rookie who's on his second team and got to play for neither. Maybe Maynor was quick and tough enough to hang in VCU's conference (CAA or something) but clearly he's no one's answer at pg; and i think Jerry Sloan knows a thing or two about coaching the PG position and the requisite personnel.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 2, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I think you have no idea what you are talking about. Maynor was backing up Derron Williams in Utah. He had two chances to start because of Williams being out. he went 15/11/4 in one game and 24/4/3 in the other. Not bad numbers for a rookie pg.

He was traded to OKC as part of a salary dump (Matt Harprings $11 million salary) where he is backing up Westbrook.

So its not like he is backing up Boykins (or Foye for that matter). he is stuck behind legit stars - an all star and a second year guy who was 1st team all rookie team last year.

Both these guys played all 82 games last year and are don't have any injury issues, so Maynor is not going to get more than 10 mpg as a back up.

I am not saying he is an all star, but he is averaging 4.5 pts, 3 asst and 1.5 boards in 14 mpg. as a rookie

NY is avging 7 pts, .07 asst and 1.4 boards as a third year player in 17 minutes.

I'd say there is more future in Maynor than young at this point.

Posted by: Blurred | March 3, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

If I were the Wiz GM, I'd wnnt to keep my options as open as possible regarding Arenas' eventual return to the NBA. So I'd be sure to insist he could return to Washington even if I hoped he never would. I'd need that option to keep his trade value up.

And I think two things are a lot clearer in March than they were a few months ago. First, Gilbert will return to the NBA. The quality of his play in the first half of the season makes that inevitable. Somebody will sign the guy.

And second, there likely won't be much discussion of voiding his contract. Instead, they'll look to a negotiated settlement.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 3, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

make that 0.7 asst for Young

I guess the question is...what other GM in his right mind would give up Maynor for Nick unless there was some other benefit (salary dump, draft pick, etc)?

Posted by: Blurred | March 3, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

"I'd say there is more future in Maynor than young at this point.Posted by: Blurred"

I like Maynor, and think he could be a legit rotation player for some NBA club.

Be silly to give up on Young at this point. He's all body, no head, but there have been other players like that who've carved out a productive niche for themselves. JR Smith, for example. Teams always value scoring off the bench. Particularly when players like Young are hard to match up against.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 3, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

the original argument was more so why would you trade 2 players that play for us for Eric Maynor. I think he'll be good, but thumping that 24 pt 3 asst game ( Gil would get killed for that) doesn't sway me very much. I admit i haven't seen much from maynor, but i don't know if he's worth two players especially if Gil comes back.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Well, one things for certain, we will all know in a couple of weeks how it will all shake out. I for one, will be glad. Tired of hearing all of the speculations and it wil be great for him to put this whole episode to rest. I just wonder why did the judge wait almost two months for sentencing when he could have sentenced him the same time he metted out punishment to the other guy. Whatever, what will be will be.

Posted by: ivyleague | March 3, 2010 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Grunfeld:"if he wants to play, this is the place where he's going to play"

Arenas:[Non-commital desire to just play]

This here is a Canadian Standoff; no one's gonna sh*t and no one's getting off the pot.

Posted by: mabkhar | March 3, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

""I just wonder why did the judge wait almost two months for sentencing when he could have sentenced him the same time he metted out punishment to the other guy. ""


So that Gil could slowly twist in the wind and wonder what his fate will be. It's ingenious tactic, IMO.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 3, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

It's an ingenious tactic, IMO.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 3, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse


Don't worry Arenas, Wilbon's got your back.

Posted by: hessone | March 3, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Why are people clamoring for Eric Maynor (yes, could be had for cheap), when Deron Williams has stated that he wants out of Utah?

Given the amount of salary we'd dump this summer, I think he's a legitimite FA target. Set your sights a little higher folks.

Posted by: mabkhar | March 3, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Grunfeld:"if he wants to play, this is the place where he's going to play"

Arenas:[Non-commital desire to just play]

This here is a Canadian Standoff; no one's gonna sh*t and no one's getting off the pot.

Posted by: mabkhar | March 3, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

My thought. As a fan, I'm in a two-holer pit looking up and see no day-light. Sorry fans, just struck me funny.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 3, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

If Dallas and Cleveland end up in the finals i wonder if Arenas should get a championship ring too for making it happen.

Posted by: jefferu | March 3, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

This might not be a popular opinion, but I saw just bring Larry Hughes back at a reasonable price next year and draft a swing guy and/or point this summer. If Gil's going to be here (and it's starting to look more and more like he is), you have to give him every chance to succeed or it's just going to blow up in our faces again. Gilbert and Larry were the team's most productive backcourt of the Grunfeld era and there was genuine chemistry between the two guys.

No one is saying Larry is the answer, but that's why you use one of the two firsts to draft a guy to groom. Nick Young obviously doesn't want the role or the pressure of being the starter-in-waiting, Miller is likely to bounce for better money, Howard - not at that cap number given his injury history, and Foye is a combo guard who's much more comfortable at the two than at the point.

I think there are some nice young pieces here but really we've only got one truly NBA starter - maybe two (Blatche and Thornton. McGee is growing and I love his potential, but there are still a dozen guys I'd take over him at this point). A lineup of Arenas/Hughes/Thornton/Blatche/McGee with Foye/Singleton (gotta resign that dude)/FA Big/Rookie/Rookie as backups isn't going to be confused with a powerhouse in the East, but it'd be a fun lineup to watch and if Arenas returns to his former self and Blatche continues to develop that team could pull off an eight seed.

Posted by: sober_stinks | March 3, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Gil's owed $80,000,0000....there aint gonna be no buyout.

Posted by: divi3 | March 3, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Foye isnt a great scorer, defender, or dime dropper. Love his effort, but he looks like a backup. So far he's been unable to cure Flip of his Earl fetish, hard to envision a player like that being the solution.

Definitely want him on the roster next season, but we need to upgrade or accept that it's going to be Arenas for at least 1 season.

Personally I cant see where he'll fit in that well after all the trouble he's caused and the emergence of Dray. He deuced in the guys shoe, how's he ever going to run the offense through him?

Dont like to think so much of teams' fortunes ride on Arenas' mental state...but it just may

Posted by: divi3 | March 3, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

First of all the team`s cap is affected by 1/2 of Gil`s salary. What happens to the cap if he comes back next year?
I think this team can win without Arenas. I think if Howard comes back healthy next year, and with the other additions in place...
PLUS..a very high draft choice..why would they need him. This team is playing better defense than it has in years. Arenas..does not play hard defense. Look at Kobe and James..to see to super stars at both ends of the floor. If you are gonna pay a player 80 million for 4 years..you should be able to see a super star in his defense as well as offense!

Posted by: blazerguy234 | March 3, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

i see gilbert is still an idiot.

Posted by: slim4 | March 3, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Take a paycut

Posted by: jercha | March 3, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

with the exception of critter, i think tha youngins luv Gil why else was there no dustup after the shoe deucing? Dray'll drop a stanky mcnasty in the backseat of Gil's Range (on tha ccarpet, not the leathers) and all will be forgotten. I think Gil would have an easier job coming back to this team than CB,AJ or BTH if any of them had to come back.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Dray'll drop a stanky mcnasty in the backseat of Gil's Range (on tha ccarpet, not the leathers) and all will be forgotten. I think Gil would have an easier job coming back to this team than CB,AJ or BTH if any of them had to come back.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 10:25 AM

hahaha, good one!

No doubt the youngs want nothing to do with the dearly departed and with good reason. But if the team is playing well the rest of the way with All Day Dray as the go-to, how does Arenas fit back into that mix given his style of play? It's tough to see how it could work, but we may be forced to see if it does.

Posted by: divi3 | March 3, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

I got to say that the Wizards are at least entertaining to watch now .. and even more interesting is what the team is going to look like next year. From personnel on up to management and ownership the possibilities are endless.

Add to that the return of Arenas. He's nutty and, at the top of his game, one of the top 5 game-changing players in the league IMHO. The question that remains for him if he can return to that caliber of play (no pun intended). If not the Zards will probably be better off without him.

Posted by: boblas | March 3, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

If Arenas is off suspension, his cap number goes back to the 20m, if he plays here, or not. If the Wiz trade him, they have to take back a player, or players with a near equal cap number.

So for next year, if he's off suspension the cap effect is nearly 20m.

My quess is Gil plays here at least to the trade deadline. That's Ernie and Gil's best way of recouping something. Gil's got to show he's an elite player again for either party to get what they want.

For those that think the Pollin's are going to pay Gil 40m to go away. I don't think there's anyway that happens unless Leonis insists on starting with a clean slate and he's willing to foot a big part of the bill.

I just don't see where either party is willing to spend 40m to dump their most valuable asset. Gil is still the biggest potential draw that they have.

For those that were crowing about Thabeet's demotion to the D League, according to the Memphis papers it is only a 10 day assignment. Due to some make up dates, he's going to be able to play 6 games in 10 days with the D league. It's regarded as a chance for him to get in game shape and get his timing back.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | March 3, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ernie, when someone gets cancer, they cut it out, regardless of the cost.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | March 3, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Gil's a wacky dude, but I don't see him giving up, say, $20 or $30 million of the $80 million he's got coming to him for his freedom, especially when you consider the money he's already lost due to his suspension.
Embrace him warmly and with open arms, folks. He's ours!

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 3, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I am convinced that it will take an unconventional approach of guard play in order for Gilbert to be an asset.

Whatever guard that plays with Gilbert has to be as good a ball handler as Gilbert and the one that runs the Offense.

Lest we forget, star two guards do require the ball a lot, but Gilbert seems to be a one-way guard and getting his teammates involved hasn't worked well for him.

IMHO, this team still needs a big point guard that will push tempo and set the Team, with or without Gilbert.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 3, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

On the contract though, if Gilbert gets any time at all, which would be a travesty I feel, won't he certainly lose all bargaining leverage?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 3, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"""I just wonder why did the judge wait almost two months for sentencing when he could have sentenced him the same time he metted out punishment to the other guy. ""
"So that Gil could slowly twist in the wind and wonder what his fate will be. It's ingenious tactic, IMO.Posted by: Firuz"

I imagine because he wanted to give the media a chance to move on to something else. Hard to be judicious when everybody's acting outraged.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 3, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone can say if Gil will be with the team next year at this point, and I don't think you can read anything definite into what Ernie is saying now.

First, I'm sure Ernie and the Pollins have talked to their lawyers and the NBA about their options with Gil's contract. Most analysts I have seen have concluded that unless Gil gets sentenced to significant jail time, they won't be able to void his contract. Significant jail time seems unlikely based on his plea agreement.

Second, the ownership situation is still in flux, clouding the possiblity of a contract buyout and any trade options -- though I can't imagine there are many offers out there anyway.

So Ernie / the organization are in a position where they need to keep every possible option open, in particular because of the money they owe him. There won't be any movement at all at least until after Mar 26, and even then, nothing may happen until the ownership situation is resolved.

Arenas will certainly play in the NBA again. Personally I think it would be best for all involved if it's not with the Wizards again. I think he has too much baggage here, and despite his stats, his playing style doesn't help move this franchise in the right direction. Trading AJ and CB represented a break with a flawed team, and I think bringing Gil back, just brings back elements of that flawed style.

I can't see any team coughing over a 40 or 50 mil buyout for a player to not play for the organization, so I think it's likely he will play for the Wiz again, if at least to try to showcase him for a trade. But with teams being leery of his history and temperment, as well as being increasingly cost-conscious, I can't see a trade developing.

Divi3, you're right in a sense about Gil vs Foye. In a vacuum, Gil is a far better player. But given where the organization is, and what it looks like they are trying to build with tougher, more defense minded, effort-giving players, I would glady give up Gil's offensive expertise for someone like Foye who gives effort on both ends of the floor and plays within the team concept, even with limitations.

Oh and DC_Man88, thanks for the totally bogus stats on Foye's points per opponent, since, for example with Chicago, he spent most of his time guarding Rose, who went off for 22pts 5rbs and 6asts. With NJ, Harris has 18, but at least early on it was to the hoop with impugnity and he also had 7 rbs and 14 dimes. Do you watch the games?

Posted by: ts35 | March 3, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

First of all the team`s cap is affected by 1/2 of Gil`s salary. What happens to the cap if he comes back next year?
I think this team can win without Arenas. I think if Howard comes back healthy next year, and with the other additions in place...
PLUS..a very high draft choice..why would they need him. This team is playing better defense than it has in years. Arenas..does not play hard defense. Look at Kobe and James..to see to super stars at both ends of the floor. If you are gonna pay a player 80 million for 4 years..you should be able to see a super star in his defense as well as offense!

Posted by: blazerguy234 | March 3, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

So you wouldn't take a former 3 (?)time all star, top 5 scorer who has shown he is almost fully recovered from knee surgery for a one time all star, who's always been pretty good but never great (ie 60 on Kobe, 50+ on Nash) who's fresh off of a shredded knee. and folks say gil needs to see the shrink.

@divi3

When gil was playing he had no issue finding Haywood for wideopen oops and layups. Dray was starting while AJ was out and people were calling for AJ to stay on the bench. Of course there are a lot of moving parts involved, other guys have been able to get off these past few games along with Blatche. The main diff if gil comes back is that it may just be AB and Gil putting up big numbers with the starting 5. Thornton could start and hit his avg just hanging aroung the boards, same with Singleton and McGee. I don't know if Gil has ever really taken away anybody's shine (there's always been a "Big 3" AJ larry and Gil were the leagues top trio before AJ CB and Gil.Larry and them were avg'ing like 70 a game between the 3 of 'em).
The question will be how the offense is run. we all should be able to see the benefit of having a pg who can penetrate well, and shoot from the parking lot. Will Gil have to adapt, of course, but i think he's the missing piece to them challenging for a playoff spot right now.
Next year with maybe a Rudy Gay addition and 4 draft picks we should be ahead of the curve for most rebuilding teams, in that all of our young players will have been in their 3rd year in the league already and have seen how fast a ship can sink when plagued by lackluster effort,hidden agendas, and selfishness. Gil was a part of the problem, but i think he can be part of tha fixin.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

What does a fellow have to do clear your ears and minds?
I see that some of you still aren't convinced of Ernest Grunfeld's genius. He knows what he's doing WRT the Arenas situation and you'll just have to put your complete trust and faith in him.
Gilbert will be in a different uniform next fall (and for you wise guys out there, I'm not referring to any prison garb) and all will be well with the Wizards.
Watch Grunfeld pull the strings and control the show and you will be absolutely amazed again at his savvy and managerial prowess. It is amazing what a man can do when he has a free hand to implement his vision, as he in the process of doing.
Do you not recognize a maestro when you experience his work?

Posted by: melodious_thunk | March 3, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Lest we forget, star two guards do require the ball a lot, but Gilbert seems to be a one-way guard and getting his teammates involved hasn't worked well for him.

IMHO, this team still needs a big point guard that will push tempo and set the Team, with or without Gilbert.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 3, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Flip is the one who wanted Gil to have all of the ballhandling responsibilities. With EJ the offense ran through CB,Gil, and AJ with an emphasis on ball movement almost as soon as the ballhandler crossed half court. Gil would freelance and jack one or take his man, which people thought was selfish due to the assist heavy princeton O (and how it was being run as such).Flip only added fuel to the fire by giving the ball to Gil 80% of the offensive possesion. You still see it with Foye and Earl how many times do they dribble the air out of the ball with no play and no outlet. Flip thinks "CHAUNCEY BILLUPS" when people mention pg to him. But other than Nash,Williams,Rose,and Kidd, how many real floor generals are there out there? We are still missing the creativity and ability to make plays for others on the fly that Gil or those others bing to the game. Gil was spoonfeedin Brenda just like Kidd is in Dal, the only difference is Kidd is dishin all day. He doesn't have to carry the load Dirk does that,Terry does that. Gil's ability to get to the rim or into the lane(he was really getting it going before his "vacation")opens things up for us.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Lilhollywood10,

I guess if EG is part of the fixin, then it might not hurt to have Gil as a part of the fixin on the playa' end, as well don'cha'no'.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 3, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: melodious_thunk | March 3, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

19 wins last year
21 and gounting this season
Yeah F'in Motzart this grunfeld

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

t35- the problem to me is that Foye in reality isnt that good despite his efforts. He misses several wide open assists every night, struggles defensively despite good effort, and cant hit the broadside of a barn at times. Most debilitating is the complete lack of ability to penetrate and thus draw in help defenders. So while his style may be what we want, so far I'm afraid the talent level isnt there to get it done. Still want him on the team though, and maybe he'll be ballin by the end of the season.

lil- agree about Gil making this exact group a postseason team. But he still sounds like a fool with his most recent comments doesnt he? Easy to see why people want to be done with him, but since there's probably no choice in the matter, here's to hoping it works.

Posted by: divi3 | March 3, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

and counting

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

@divi3
i had an earlier post @ivyleague near the top of the page saying the same thing about gil. I'm not a gil hater and i'm definitely not on board with the sensationalizing of the incident; but come on. As a person whose life was in the hands of federal judge once before, i know that those aren't the type of guys that you make veiled comments at. Especially when there's a federal sentencing advisory involved. He could get a nice little stretch if the judge thought he was questioning his integrity. That being said i trust Gil in all situations not involving guns and litigation.He's my starting PG for tha wiz next year, unless we draft General Grevis, then Gil's our starting 2!

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

If voiding his contract is a remote possiblity, the next best action on GA is to tell him come and play.The coach need to control every thing,if arenas try to revert to his previous self and fail to run the offense the way he is asked,he should come from the bench.If he decide not to do that ,then he will take the majority of the responsiblity in his fate in the club.Washington will aford to keep Arenas on the air with out any problem.They can pay him for free and suspend him.

Posted by: gtefferra | March 3, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

the first half of next season should be like a semi evaluation period for gil. if we're playing well as ateam and gil is ballin the we haveour answer. but if he reverts to the "bad Gil" and it looks like he's getting his at the expense of the team (a la AJ et CB) then look to move him before the deadline,by that time Gil may play himself up to enogh value where we don't take too much of a loss.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 3, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

"t35- the problem to me is that Foye in reality isnt that good despite his efforts. He misses several wide open assists every night, struggles defensively despite good effort, and cant hit the broadside of a barn at times. Most debilitating is the complete lack of ability to penetrate and thus draw in help defenders. So while his style may be what we want, so far I'm afraid the talent level isnt there to get it done. Still want him on the team though, and maybe he'll be ballin by the end of the season."
Posted by: divi3

Not saying he's the best, but he's solid and you're overstating his deficiencies a bit...except the part about not being able to penetrate. It would be nice if we had any guards on the team who could consistently do that. But that brings me back to my original point. All of the things you point to as Foye's problems are also Gil's problems. We know Gil plays crappy D with no effort. He doesn't penetrate any better than Foye either. Gil would try to penetrate, run into a crowd and turn the ball over. My fear with Gil is that we already have guards who dribble too much, which Gil was also often guilty of, along with jacking up shots instead or moving the ball for better ones. By the end, AJ, CB and Gil were all doing that.

With Foye, at least he willingly gives up the rock. You're also overstating part of the statistical difference between Gil and Foye. When he left, Gil was averaging 23pts, 7 dimes, but 3.7 turnovers and was shooting .411 from the field. Over the past several games, essentially since the trade, Foye is averaging 15pts / 6 dimes / 1.7 to's and is shooting .469. I'll actually take Foye's numbers and limitations over Gil's in this case because it means the team is playing better ball even if Foye isn't on some level playing better as an individual than Gil might.

Foye definitely struggles with quicker point guards, we knew that coming in. Ultimately his best role is as part of a 3 guard rotation where he swings between the 1 and the 2 depending on matchups. But he's got talent, and as you so often say with Blatche, he's still young. He's 26. He has time to get better. Not saying he's the future of the franchise. Just saying that if the choice next year is between starting Foye or starting Gil, I'll take Foye because I think the team gels better with him. Purely academic at this point because Gil hasn't played with the current cast, but that's my opinion.

Posted by: ts35 | March 3, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

How stupid can Mr. Arenass possibly be. Doesn't he yet understand that it doesn't matters squat what "problems" he has with the judges sentence. Is he so naive to think that the judge cares one iota whether or not he has a problem with ANYTHING!!!

A more appropriate comment would be something like this.... "I deserve whatever the judges thinks, and more"... Gil, please just shut up!!! Imbicile.

Posted by: stephen_beckner | March 3, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

How stupid can Mr. Arenass possibly be. Doesn't he yet understand that it doesn't matter squat what "problems" he has with the judge's sentence. Is he so naive to think that the judge cares one iota whether or not he has a problem with ANYTHING!!!

A more appropriate comment would be something like this.... "I deserve whatever the judge thinks I deserve, and more"... Gil, please just shut up!!! Imbicile.

Posted by: stephen_beckner | March 3, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

One other thing.... I honestly think the judge is going to hammer our friend Gil and then he will get his wish to play basketball for free... with the other convicts.

Posted by: stephen_beckner | March 3, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"Oh and DC_Man88, thanks for the totally bogus stats on Foye's points per opponent, since, for example with Chicago, he spent most of his time guarding Rose, who went off for 22pts 5rbs and 6asts. With NJ, Harris has 18, but at least early on it was to the hoop with impugnity and he also had 7 rbs and 14 dimes. Do you watch the games?

Posted by: ts35 | March 3, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse "

Do you smoke crack?

No one can really determine what percentage one guy was guarding the other.

The only thing one can go by is comparing positions, and for Foye, he's the starting point guard.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 3, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I am from the Richmond area and I've seen enough of Maynor to know that he is an nba talent.Just like so many of the wizards players now that have gotten playing time,you will never know how much game they have until they get sufficient time on the floor to show you,i.e Blatche,McGee,Thornton,& #22(forgot his name)I would venture a guess that noone would have believed that either of these players would have played the way they are playing now,until they were given playing time.Maynor is a tough kid,and plays fast enough to be an effective point in this league,given the playing time.GO WIZ!!!!

Posted by: BRUBOI | March 3, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

ARENAS HAS ZERO (0) CHANCE OF BEING IN WASHINGTON NEXT YEAR, PER TED

Posted by: BruinSteve | March 5, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

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