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Blatche will not be suspended, talks about 'misunderstanding'

A league source informed me that Andray Blatche will not be suspended for his behavior during the Wizards' 95-86 loss to the Charlotte Bobcats on Tuesday. Coach Flip Saunders was highly critical of Blatche during a post-game tirade in which he claimed that the fifth-year forward boycotted the final three quarters after refusing to listen to the coaches.

Blatche said on Wednesday afternoon that Saunders's assessment of his behavior against Charlotte was "not true."

Saunders substituted for Blatche in the first quarter after he missed a long fadeaway jumper had a defensive lapse in which he failed to be in proper rebounding position when Theo Ratliff had an easy rebound dunk. Blatche sulked to the bench with four points (The blog, Truth About It, has an excellent breakdown of what led to this benching).

"I don't know what he was trying to tell me. I went to the bench and sat down," Blatche said in a brief telephone interview.

Although Blatche said, "No coaches ever tried to talk to me," he later admitted that assistants Sam Cassell and Gene Banks both approached him. Banks spoke to him at halftime.

Blatche disputes Saunders's claims that he didn't want to play or be coached. "I never said I didn't want to play," Blatche said. "That's what's the disappointing thing. That's what I'm most upset about 'cause I would never quit on my teammates."

"I wasn't upset about him benching me, because we was winning," he said of Saunders. "I just think it was a misunderstanding because it would've been a different press conference than what it was."

Blatche met with Saunders and President Ernie Grunfeld after the game, in what one source described as a heated exchange. Another source said that it was Saunders's decision not to suspend Blatche. "This was handled internally," the source said.

Blatche traveled with the team to Indiana and said he explained himself to his teammates at the morning meeting. He is expected to play against the Pacers, although Blatche said he wasn't sure what will happen. "I don't know. We'll see at 7," he said.
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By Alexa Steele  |  March 24, 2010; 4:11 PM ET
 
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Flip needs to stop calling guys out with this phrase "In my 15 years..."

Deal with the here and now Flip. Nobody cares about your resume because you never won a title as an NBA coach.

Your job is to connect with these guys not lie about them to the media.

Posted by: elfreako | March 24, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

elfreako

Did you ever think maybe Flip is trying to get out of this job by getting fired and colecting a paycheck for nothing?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 24, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Saunders expressed his disappointment in Blatche, who refused to speak with him when he pulled Blatche from the game.

I watched Blatche come out of the game, and it didn't appear as though Flip made any attempt to speak with Blatche. Singleton pointed to Blatche from the scorers' table. Blatche was under our basket. Blatche left the court from that spot and walked to the end of the bench. His path didn't cross Flip's. So, if Flip actually did say something to Blatche, there's no way he heard him.

This story gets curiouser and curiouser. Both men are digging in, but regardless, Flip should NEVER reprimand his players in the press. EG should put a stop to that.

This dissing Blatche in the press is getting tired. A rather manageable situation has been escalated to a war. If Flip wants to drill a hole in a wall, does he drop a bomb?

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

whatever.

Blatche can feel disrespected and underpaid all he wants, but let's look at what he is hired to do:

Win games and put asses in seats.

The box score tells you ain't winning games and TV monitors prove he ain't putting butts in the seats.

When he starts doing one or the other, he can get back about all of this.

Until then, he should be happy that this organization bothered signing a lazy, lanky, hot one night a month, john arrested, missed a season because he got shot, underperforming player to any deal at all.

We are lucky, as well, that he came around after 5 seasons, but this guy could be languishing in Europe or the D league or, most likely, jail, if we hadn't kept him around and paid him for virtually nothing the past 5 years.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The thought did cross my mind bf78.

I don't care if you didn't sign on for this Flip. Don't disrespect the basketball intelligence of our city.

No player expcept Stephon Marbury would refuse to enter a game on the NBA level.

That just sounds proposterous.

Posted by: elfreako | March 24, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

That said...Flip is a tool

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Flip's behavior on a number of occasions has been borderline bizarre and almost irrational (Remember the Boston post-game presser.). With all due respect, do you think Flip might be ill?

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

most likely jail?? tired stereotype

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Fief - he looks high most of the time

maybe cocaine psychosis?

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

No player expcept Stephon Marbury would refuse to enter a game on the NBA level.

That just sounds proposterous.

Posted by: elfreako

*Cough* Scottie Pippen *cough* 1994 Playoffs *cough* refused to go in because Phil designed the play for Toni Kukoc *cough* claimed later to have a sudden migraine *cough*

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

ok.divi, i admit the hyperbole may be overboard on that, but he did seem to have issues with good judgement for a while

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

No player would refuse to enter a game at the NBA level? I guess Scottie Pippen never got the memo. As did Rashard Lewis last December. And Damon Jones, Ira Newble, Ben Wallace.

So, let's unpack this thing for a minute. Blatche gets pulled from the game. By his own words, he knew the coach was trying to talk to him (Blatche thought it was about shot selection), but ignored him because it was "too early" to talk about such a subject.

And somehow this incident is Flip's fault? Is evidence that Flip wants to get fired? Wow.

Posted by: TheSecretWeapon | March 24, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I was kidding abotu Flip's cocaine induced psychosis, but he does play with his nose a lot....probably from all that airplane air, but it could be a nice rumor.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Blatche can feel disrespected and underpaid all he wants, but let's look at what he is hired to do:

Win games and put asses in seats.

The box score tells you ain't winning games and TV monitors prove he ain't putting butts in the seats.

When he starts doing one or the other, he can get back about all of this.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 4:36 PM

Flip's job description is similar. Let's hope he zips his lips in the pressers instead strolling down memory lane about his "biggest disappointment" and the good old days with Kevin Garnett. Flip deliberately inflamed the situation and now he's got enough egg on his face to make Western omelets for a party of four.

If Flip had approached Dray directly last night during the game, there would have been no confusion over whether or not Blatche wanted to play. Shame on Flip.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"most likely jail?? tired stereotype"

Normally I might be inclined to agree, but given that he has, in separate instances, gotten shot and arrested while out cruising for hookers, I gotta give say there's some fire behind the smoke in this instance.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

i would say he still has judgment issues given the comments he just went public with!

12 losses in a row...but still entertaining, maybe Flip and AB planned it

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Blatche – when asked if he possibly forgot an instance in Tuesday night's game when he blew off Saunders and his assistants – said, “When he pulled me out the game, I was frustrated and heard him say something, but was so frustrated that I don't even know what he was saying as I was passing. So I was wrong for that. But I was frustrated. And I'm the player, so yes, it was my fault. That was it, and no [assistants] except for Gene Banks at halftime talked to me.”

Blatche said he and Banks spoke at halftime, and that he was under the impression that what he perceived to be a misunderstanding had been cleared up. He expected to come off the bench to relieve James Singleton in the second half, but that didn't happen.

Sounds like Blatche copped to what he did do wrong.

At issue here is Flip's accusations.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

People are making a big deal about Dray walking to the bench and not listening to Flip. No doubt that is bad as you should never tune out your coach but lets be real. That has happened a ton of times on every team in the NBA. People just get frustrated, things happened, and then its over. Like the coach is yelling at you and you are just tired of hearing it so you dont respond. That happeneds all the time from stars to scrubs but they always understand that its usually just frustration and it blows over or they talk it over

Posted by: dlts20 | March 24, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

several of the players cant stand Flip. As the team sucks, it doesnt matter that much since you can boot all the players.

But when the one's you bring in dont like him either, where does that leave you? Wishing you didnt trade a 6'11" PF finally blossoming?

but at least you have Demarcus Cousins whose known as eminently coachable and will respond well to Flip's demeanor?

Dray the idiot and Flip the tool need to hug it out!

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I knew you were joking about the cocaine psychosis, Blurred, but rational and people who are well do not generally behave the way Flip's behaving (I thought the migraine headache this morning was an interesting subplot). I'd prefer to think there is some reasonable explanation for his vengeful outbursts rather than to believe Flip's simply an angry, mean man seriously lacking in good judgment and civility.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

So here's one problem I have with AB's version. His boy Nick seemed to confirm at least part of it in postgame comments. At least to the point that there was an issue, not just a misunderstanding.

Plus, if there was some sort of misunderstanding, didn't they have all of halftime to try to figure it out?

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Just read Fief's comments. If that is in fact what happened, then I withdraw my comments =)

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Normally I might be inclined to agree, but given that he has, in separate instances, gotten shot and arrested while out cruising for hookers, I gotta give say there's some fire behind the smoke in this instance.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 4:51 PM

Gotta say you're still an idiot. Blatche was a victim of a robbery/carjacking. You don't get arrested for that. As for the solicitation charge, how many people get actual jail time for that? That's a fine only.
Since Blatche has one arrest on his record, that is hardly indicative of someone who would otherwise be in jail if not for basketball.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Flip needs to take a page from Joe Gibbs and other truly great coaches who blame themselves in the media and always back their player publicly....but then rip them as much as necessary in private. Get the bunker mentality going.

Perhaps Flip is leery of being associated with the stank of this season though, given his winning track record, and is keeping his distance by consistently dogging the players in public and saying things like "coaches are always right"

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

You must mean Joe Gibbs 1, because Joe Gibbs 2 never called them out in public....and then never called them out in private.

When reached for comment today and asked about the issue, Blatche responded

"I never told Coach I didn't want to play.....I just told him I didn't want to play defense."

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say you're still an idiot. Blatche was a victim of a robbery/carjacking. You don't get arrested for that. As for the solicitation charge, how many people get actual jail time for that? That's a fine only.
Since Blatche has one arrest on his record, that is hardly indicative of someone who would otherwise be in jail if not for basketball.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

He got shot and jacked WHILE CRUISING FOR HOOKERS, if I remember correctly. At the time, he said he was stupid and made a mistake and was so glad he was alive that he would never do anything like that again.

And then he got arrested.

Guy ain't going to jail for cruising hookers, but he has judgement issues.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"Blatche was a victim of a robbery/carjacking. "

He was shot while in a neighborhood known to traffic in prostitution, a neighborhood nowhere near where he lived with no plausible real reason for him to be there at that time of night. Why was he there? Well, the fact that he was later arrested for soliciting pros pretty much answers that. If he hadn't been somewhere doing something he had no business doing, he'd have never been shot (at least not in that spot on that night). It's a clear pattern of poor judgment and indulgence in questionable activities.

"As for the solicitation charge, how many people get actual jail time for that? That's a fine only."

People can and do get jail time for soliciting. Doesn't matter "how many" do or don't. And the odds that it was the first time he did it are pretty much nil. Again, odds are it was at least his second time. And the fact that he was out doing it again, after getting shot doing it before (and subsequently talking out of his ass about how he "learned" and "grew" so much from the shooting) only further underscores his lack of off-the-court judgment.

But, of course, the doctrine of "players are never responsible" now extends beyond the court and practice facility to the means streets, right?

Moron.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

i think he got shot in alexandria while exiting a parking garage in his car.

the hooker incident involved talking to an undercover cop at Logan circle

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Come on, TS35. We have Flip trying to make Blatche look ridiculous. Let's not help him. Here's the quote:

Blatche refuted Saunders' claim that the coach was trying to talk to him about a blown defensive assignment, but instead said Saunders told him “Stop taking jump-shots.” Blatche said he did miss a defensive cross-check assignment. But he said that in a postgame meeting with Saunders, he explained that he didn't check Miller's man, Boris Diaw, because he had ran to the basket for a rebound and so it “was impossible” to have gotten back out to the perimeter to check Diaw.

“It was a misunderstanding, I guess, but it wasn't what he said." “It wasn't never a coach that tried to talk to me and then I said, 'No, I don't want to play.' Who the hell would say that? I would never give up on my teammates like that. It frustrates me because he went on television and made it look like I don't care about my teammates or my career, and that's just not true.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

OK...seems that kalo and my recollection about getting jacked while cruising for ho's may be mistaken. From wikipedia (not the most reliable source, but faster than really looking it up):

On the Sunday morning of September 25, 2005, three months after the Wizards selected him with the 49th overall pick in the NBA draft, Blatche was shot in an attempted carjacking that took place near his home in Alexandria, Virginia.[2] A passenger, police said Blatche was ordered out of the car by men who emerged from a van and was shot before he could fully exit.[2] Blatche's mother, Angela Oliver said he was shot once in the chest, but that the bullet did not hit any vital organs.[2] He was released from hospital two days later.[8] As a result of his injuries he missed the Wizards' training camp,[3][9] although he could walk on his own three days after the shooting and one day after being released from the hospital.[9] He appeared in only 29 games as a rookie.

On August 2, 2007, Blatche was charged with sexual solicitation in the Logan Circle neighborhood of Washington, D.C. after allegedly soliciting sex from an undercover police officer. The solicitation charge was dropped after Blatche followed court orders and attended a day-long seminar for men who solicit prostitutes.[3][10]

Blatche was arrested on June 4, 2008, in Virginia on charges of reckless driving and driving on a suspended license for the third time. Blatche was going 86 mph in a 70 mph zone in a Mercedes on Interstate 85. He was released on bond.[11]

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

He got shot and jacked WHILE CRUISING FOR HOOKERS, if I remember correctly. At the time, he said he was stupid and made a mistake and was so glad he was alive that he would never do anything like that again.

And then he got arrested.

Guy ain't going to jail for cruising hookers, but he has judgement issues.


Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

yall be making it up as you go huh? AB was folowing some girls home from a late night clubbing. he got jacked while his car was stopped and the girls left him. At the time people thought it was a set up.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 24, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

From all the direct quotes from Blatche, it seems apparent he's willing to man up to what he did wrong.

Let's not use Nick Young as the arbiter of right and wrong. Nick doesn't know what he should and shouldn't say, and after getting more playing time than thirty seconds, he's not taking a chance on alienating Flip any more than he already has. Let's not forget after Gilbert's finger gun incident in Philly AND his post-game rant, Nick was quoted as saying, "that's just Gil being Gil."

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I've run that stretch where he was hit for reckless and you better use your cruise control.

But third time busted for driving on a suspended license? more poor judgement. Hire one of your dumbass friends to drive you around.

anyway. Flip is a moron to be maligning him in public, but Dray is a moron for not just getting wiht the program.

Maybe Flip has been told to keep Dray's value down so he won't feel underpaid.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

yall be making it up as you go huh? AB was folowing some girls home from a late night clubbing. he got jacked while his car was stopped and the girls left him. At the time people thought it was a set up.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 24, 2010 5:22 PM

looks like kal's been cooking the books!

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

yall be making it up as you go huh? AB was folowing some girls home from a late night clubbing. he got jacked while his car was stopped and the girls left him. At the time people thought it was a set up.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 24, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

now i remember...there was talk about it being a set up. But remember, he was 19 in VA in a place that is legally only allowed to have 21 & up.

Also, there was talk about the girls being pros or him offering the cash. Don't think that was confirmed, though.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"yall be making it up as you go huh? AB was folowing some girls home from a late night clubbing. he got jacked while his car was stopped and the girls left him. At the time people thought it was a set up."

Fair enough. I was working from memory and may have gotten the two incidences mingled.

And if it was a set up, then maybe that's what he meant when he said he learned something from the shooting. He learned that it's safer to pay for it than to try and pick it up for free.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

NY was crapping bricks during that comcast postgame, was pretty funny, somebody caught him in the hallway and gave him a chance to end his career here but he said the right stuff and should play plenty tonight since he verified Flip's account

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Blurred,
If that is the only reckless driving offense, than I was wrong as well...thought he had two and believed one was for speeds over 100 mph. Killing it by bringing facts into this. :)

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | March 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Dude...its just wikipedia, so for all we know, Dray's mom cleaned it up earlier today.

I think it was Kwame who was the racer.

But thrice busted on a suspended license? Like I said, just hire some hanger on to drive your car for you.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm out. Maybe we can lose in OT again.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

He was shot while in a neighborhood known to traffic in prostitution, "a neighborhood nowhere near where he lived" with no plausible real reason for him to be there at that time of night. Why was he there? Well, the fact that he was later arrested for soliciting pros pretty much answers that. If he hadn't been somewhere doing something he had no business doing, he'd have never been shot (at least not in that spot on that night).

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Moron.

Read the article by
Ivan Carter
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 27, 2005

Washington Wizards rookie Andray Blatche was listed in good condition last night at Inova Fairfax Hospital, one day after being shot in the chest "near his home" in Alexandria.


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 24, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

People can and do get jail time for soliciting. Doesn't matter "how many" do or don't. And the odds that it was the first time he did it are pretty much nil. Again, odds are it was at least his second time. And the fact that he was out doing it again, after getting shot doing it before (and subsequently talking out of his ass about how he "learned" and "grew" so much from the shooting) only further underscores his lack of off-the-court judgment.

But, of course, the doctrine of "players are never responsible" now extends beyond the court and practice facility to the means streets, right?

Moron.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 5:13 PM

Since you've already been corrected about the carjacking, I'll skip that.

Name one person you know or you've read about who has done jail time in this region for their first charge of solicitation. I'll save you some time. No one. You pay the fine, you learn, and you go on with your life. Regarding your "odds", we haven't heard anything else about Blatche and prostitutes. So your point, on the off chance that you were attempting to make one, is moot.

Cretin.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Respect is important to everyone. Not to get too literary here, but Dostoyevsky had a great quote about respect, "If you want to be respected by others the great thing is to respect yourself. Only by that, only by self-respect will you compel others to respect you.”

Respect is important to everyone, and it's obvious Flip doesn't respect Blatche. All Blatche's "faults" aside (have none of us done stupid things we now regret?), and considering that most of the people on the blogs today are so willing and eager to believe Flip's "version" of the truth, I commend Blatche for standing up for himself. When you lose your self-respect, you are nothing.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Lol Fief, just posting an obviously false quote trying to lighten the mood, people are getting so serious.

No idea what was said between AB, Flip and the coaching staff, but my guess is he was pulled for more than missing one jumper or one assignment. He only played a short time, granted, but in that time he had 0 rebounds, while the Bobcats were going nuts on the offensive glass and also killing us in transition. Not all of that is on Blatche, but I'm sure his somewhat lackadasical effort (in my opinion from watching the game) didn't help his case.

But whatever, they're (theoretically) big boys, they'll work it out. Flip probably went overboard on his comments, AB is probably downplaying his attitude malfunction last night.

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough. I was working from memory and may have gotten the two incidences mingled.

And if it was a set up, then maybe that's what he meant when he said he learned something from the shooting. He learned that it's safer to pay for it than to try and pick it up for free.


Posted by: kalo_rama | March 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse


Good try but you didn't spin your way out of being a moron by trying to tell a joke.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

the link above to Truth about It shows just how poorly AB was playing in that stretch and why Flip would have pulled him.

But Flip's postgame comments (if they were overstated or untrue) were inexcusable because that crap dogs a player for years. So maybe AB wasnt that overboard in his blistering response, because it is afterall his career on the line.

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

If you want lighthearted, I'll can give you some Kafka.

Let's not forget that Blatche is still coming off a sprained ankle. He turned it again during shootaround and was visibly limping. Not so much during the game, but I'm guessing he was physically hampered. (I can only imagine what Flip would have said if Blatche said he couldn't play because of the ankle. Hmm. Maybe something like this: "...don't leave your teammates hanging out to dry like that. You don't do that. You don't do that. That's one of the greatest things about this sport. You look to the right, and you look to the left. It's being in the trenches with those players. And what happens is as players, you know what you have. Right now, those teammates, he's lost their credibility. What's going to happen when things go bad? You can't do those things." Oh wait. Flip did say that.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

and btw, if AB had actually refused to re-enter a game for 3 fricking quarters as Flip initially said, you can guarantee he would have been suspended

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Firuz1

Maybe kal has spent a night in jail for solicitation since he always tells everyone else to stick to the facts?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 24, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

and btw, if AB had actually refused to re-enter a game for 3 fricking quarters as Flip initially said, you can guarantee he would have been suspended

Posted by: divi3 | March 24, 2010 5:42 PM


BINGO!! You're winning all day, divi3!

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Name one person you know or you've read about who has done jail time in this region for their first charge of solicitation. I'll save you some time. No one. You pay the fine, you learn, and you go on with your life. Regarding your "odds", we haven't heard anything else about Blatche and prostitutes. So your point, on the off chance that you were attempting to make one, is moot.

Cretin.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm not one to jump to Kalo's defence, but I think you mistook the overall argument, that Blatche has a history of NOT learning.

I don't know who gets what for soliciting in DC (or VA), but I do know that the original point was that if the Wizards had cut him after his virually non-productive first couple seasons, he seems to be the kind of guy to go all Antoine Walker and get in finacial trouble.

You couple that with his history of doing stupid, risky things and being like 21/22 at the time, AND the judicial system's bias against black men, then i think there is a reasonable chance that his butt may have ended up in jail.

So that was the point and both Kalo and I admitted we messed up on the jacking being about pros (although it was never confirmed about those girls either way, so you can't say it is out of the question).

As to the proximity of where it happened, Kalo is on his own.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"Dostoyevsky had a great quote about respect, 'If you want to be respected by others the great thing is to respect yourself. Only by that, only by self-respect will you compel others to respect you.'"

No doubt from the "Idiot."

Posted by: midlevex_ | March 24, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

A great work.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Respect is important to everyone. Not to get too literary here, but Dostoyevsky had a great quote about respect, "If you want to be respected by others the great thing is to respect yourself. Only by that, only by self-respect will you compel others to respect you.”

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Fief1

Dostoevsky?

Flip should start by reading How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 24, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who gets what for soliciting in DC (or VA), but I do know that the original point was that if the Wizards had cut him after his virually non-productive first couple seasons, he seems to be the kind of guy to go all Antoine Walker and get in finacial trouble.

You couple that with his history of doing stupid, risky things and being like 21/22 at the time, AND the judicial system's bias against black men, then i think there is a reasonable chance that his butt may have ended up in jail.

Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:45 PM

Complete and utter BS, made out of whole cloth. A tortured stretch at best.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

But third time busted for driving on a suspended license? more poor judgement. Hire one of your dumbass friends to drive you around.

anyway. Flip is a moron to be maligning him in public, but Dray is a moron for not just getting wiht the program.

Maybe Flip has been told to keep Dray's value down so he won't feel underpaid.


Posted by: Blurred | March 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse
the DMV/MVA can suspend registration or license for something as simple as not getting the yearly emissions test. if his car is registered in another place or he has a license in another place say... a NY state lic. the notice would be sent to that address. therefore AB could drive around on a suspended lic. or with suspended tags without ever having been pulled over or cited previously. In fact most people in these situations find out by being pulled over versus getting the forwarded mail in time.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 24, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Ok seriously? Are we seriously at the point of debating his driving record?

Some of us were quick to believe Flip's version, some of us are just as quick to believe AB's version.

We'll never really know. We don't know if this is a one-time thing or if issues had been building for a while. We don't know if flip flipped his lid or if they have been telling Blatche the same things over and over again and he wasn't getting the message. We don't know why he was suspended. Maybe it was an actual misunderstanding. Maybe Flip realized he went too far, or maybe AB came in today and apologized and that was enough for Flip. Maybe they've already hugged it out.

What we do know is that AB was slacking last night and got benched, Flip ripped him after the game, and AB disputes about half of what Flip said. Period.

Can we please stop with all of the shooting and driving record and how quickly you can go to jail on a solicitation charge nonsense already.

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened on the bench, Flip blew it out out of proportion. Sometimes a coach needs the good sense to overlook things for the good of the team. AB's been doing great overall, why get on the kid's case when he's virtually your only offensive weapon?

Flip can't handle the pressure of all this losing.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | March 24, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Should read "We don't know why he wasn't suspended" I really need to proof read better.

Posted by: ts35 | March 24, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Flip is ill. No question about it.

Posted by: Firuz1 | March 24, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Exactly what I was saying earlier. Until we know the truth, no one should be calling for AB to be traded or suspended.

I knew there had to be more to the story.

Posted by: original_mark | March 24, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Until then, he should be happy that this organization bothered signing a lazy, lanky, hot one night a month, john arrested, missed a season because he got shot, underperforming player to any deal at all.

On the Sunday morning of September 25, 2005, three months after the Wizards selected him with the 49th overall pick in the NBA draft, Blatche was shot in an attempted carjacking that took place near his home in Alexandria, Virginia.

@Blurred
I'm glad that Wiki helped you realize that you were wrong about criticizing Blatche for getting shot. I'm very familiar w/the part of Alexandria where he was shot and it's a nice/afluent area.

Plus, for a second there, I thought it was like when people (mostly national media) tried to make it seem like it was Sean Taylor's fault that a robber shot him.

Plenty of other things he can be criticized for, but not for getting jacked.

Posted by: SportzWiz | March 24, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

And I'm glad to see that thanks to EG Blatche and Flip got a chance to air out their issues like men, as I posted last night.

I'm sure we could all have a field day trying to imagine some of the amunition that they had built-up against each other.

Posted by: SportzWiz | March 24, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

There's probably a few more stories in blogs or newspapers, and locally the Washington Post has archives where you can probably find similar reports. The blog writer got the story from the Syracuse paper. http://forums.nykfp.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12547

Andre Blatche Shot
by raiser on September 26, 2005, 7:26 am

Andray Blatche, a 19-year-old Syracuse native who was selected by the Washington Wizards in the second round of the NBA Draft in June, was shot in an apparent robbery near his home in Alexandria, Va., Sunday morning.

Blatche was shot once in the chest as two assailants approached a car in which he was a passenger around 6:30 a.m., according to an Alexandria, Va., police report. After the shooting, the driver of the car, who was not named in the report, drove to Blatche's home in the Washington, D.C., suburb and called police. Ambulance personnel responded and Blatche was taken via helicopter to Inova Fairfax Hospital in Fairfax, Va.

Blatche was listed in serious but stable condition, according to a police spokesman. Blatche's mother, Angela Oliver, of Syracuse, received a telephone call from the Alexandria police early Sunday morning.

"It's the phone call no mother ever wants to get," she said. She and several family members rushed from Syracuse to the hospital.

"He's doing OK," Oliver said late Sunday night from the hospital. "He's breathing on his own. The bullet didn't hit any vital organs. He's been sedated, but he's been talking to me when he's come out of it."

According to the police report, Blatche was in a car with two friends when they noticed a van following them. When they pulled over, two men wearing masks stepped out of the van. One man ordered Blatche out of the car and then shot him before Blatche could get out.

Oliver said the bullet passed through Blatche's body, missing his heart by an inch.

"They almost took his dream away," she said. "And for what?"

Police in Alexandria said no arrests have been made in the shooting.

Blatche, a 6-foot-11 forward, signed a two-year contract with the Wizards just last month. He was living in Alexandria and preparing for the start of the team's preseason training camp on Oct. 4. The Wizards' first preseason game is on Oct. 10 and the regular-season opener is on Nov. 5.

Posted by: rickgonz | March 24, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

was at the game. Blatche's comments reflect EXACTLY what I witnessed, sitting center court, five rows back, with a perfect view of the court, the bench and the coaches. NO ONE, let alone THREE coaches approached Blatche during the game to talk to him. Blatche, from bench, cheered his teammates; had a heat pack to keep himself warm, and DID join the huddle during timeouts. It was obvious Flip was freezing Blatche out; how enthusiastic would you like him to be?

This is not the first time Flip has called out Blatche on TV. It's inappropriate, juvenile, and it's getting old. You're the coach, Flip. Stop acting like a baby and start acting like a man. Settle internal differences privately. Is there any good reason for the entire blogosphere to know about this situation? What could have been handled as a simple misunderstanding has been turned into a cataclysmic event.

Am I the only one who finds it strange that Flip had a migraine this morning and couldn't attend the team meeting? If I KNEW I held the moral high ground about something, wild horses couldn't keep me away.

Move on. Apologize to each other for trying to resolve an issue in the press; sing Kumbaya and play basketball -- with Blatche in the lineup.

The season's been a nightmare, but Flip has contributed to the horror.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I guess an eyewitness account does not matter to most of you. Along with what Blatche has said about the incident, I believe Blatche. Wouldn't you think Saunders might talk to Blatche at half time maybe? I know I would have! I don't know what kind of chicken *&^t coach wouldn't.

Posted by: bobilly2 | March 24, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"This is not the first time Flip has called out Blatche on TV. It's inappropriate, juvenile, and it's getting old. You're the coach, Flip. Stop acting like a baby and start acting like a man. Settle internal differences privately. Is there any good reason for the entire blogosphere to know about this situation? What could have been handled as a simple misunderstanding has been turned into a cataclysmic event."

Um, just to inject a note of reality into the discussion:
1. Coaches criticize players in the media. Not all coaches, but many. Bob Knight, Larry Brown, and Bill Parcells come to mind. It's been going on since, well, since there was a media.
2. It's a tactic to motivate. If the coach thought the player would have a breakdown as a result, he wouldn't do it.
3. it's neither inappropriate or juvenile. Sometimes it's the only thing that gets to the player.
4. What Saunders said about Blatche isn't a tenth as harsh as what you read hear every day, about Saunders, or Arenas, or Jamison, or Nick Young.
5. Eyewitness accounts are highly unreliable. Read 'Eyewitness Testimony' by psychologist Elizabeth Loftus. Or Rashomon.
6. Having a migraine and not attending a team meeting is not a sign of moral turpitude.
7. There are plenty of hysterical overreactors here, but Flip Saunders isn't one of them.
5.


Am I the only one who finds it strange that Flip had a migraine this morning and couldn't attend the team meeting? If I KNEW I held the moral high ground about something, wild horses couldn't keep me away.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 24, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Correction: that last fragment is from the highly dramatic Fief1.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 24, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"Although Blatche said, "No coaches ever tried to talk to me," he later admitted that assistants Sam Cassell and Gene Banks both approached him. Banks spoke to him at halftime."

Do you guys know how to read? Blatche himself admits they did try to talk to him. So much for the "eyewitness" accounts.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 24, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

As for his shooting incident, I don't think it was a bad neighborhood bc Alexandria has very few and not likely close to where he lives. He was, however, out til like 3/4 in the morning during training camp of his rookie season. A sign of things to come. Also, was it not believed he was followed from a sketchy neighborhood from which he just left????

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 24, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Pardon me...seems it was around 6:30 am that he was shot. A real bender that night. So, it may not have been his "fault", but as they say nothing good is happening that time of night.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 24, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"Actually, I was kidding abotu Flip's cocaine induced psychosis, but he does play with his nose a lot....probably from all that airplane air, but it could be a nice rumor.Posted by: Blurred"

See? We've got guys here on this board who are way bigger a-holes than Flip was -- and proud of it, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 24, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Coaches criticize players in the media. Not all coaches, but many. Bob Knight, Larry Brown, and Bill Parcells come to mind. It's been going on since, well, since there was a media.

At least you have all the nuts in the same bag.

Posted by: Fief1 | March 24, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

3 coaches in 2 years, probably going to be 4 in 3 years. When do the players start accepting the responsibilty for the team's performance?

Posted by: covertops26 | March 24, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse


Get Blatche and Arenas out of here and do it today. WTF?

Posted by: hessone | March 25, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

I think Andray "Lazy, Quiter" Blatche has his butt kissing friends write comments for him on different blogs because no one that has seen his behavior over the last few years would defend him this much.....

The Wizards are stupid for not using this opportunity to suspend Blatche.... They start to guy in the next game????

later

Posted by: punchdaclock | March 25, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

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