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Energy well runs dry

Morning brew

The Wizards lost their fourth game in a row on Tuesday, falling 96-88 to the Houston Rockets before the smallest crowd this season at Verizon Center. The Wizards have several problems, but scoring appears to be the greatest challenge right now, with the team failing to reach 90 points in any of the past five games.

Craig Stouffer of the Washington Examiner writes, "[t]he post-All-Star-break, post-apocalyptic-trade Wizards have settled in, and that doesn't appear to be a good thing." He explains how the Wizards crumbled, but also mentioned the play of Shaun Livingston.

Truth About It's Kyle Weidie finally caught up with the elusive Josh Howard, who has kept a low profile since tearing his ACL against Chicago. Howard tells Weidie that his knee is progressing "according to plan" and also discusses his future with the Wizards.

Flip Saunders continues to explain his views on the Andray Blatche-Kevin Garnett exchange on Sunday. He explained it to an infamous encounter between Michael Jordan and Darrick Martin. Mike Jones writes for CSNWashington that the game was the latest development in the maturation of Blatche.

It also appears that Eddie Jordan won't be around much longer in Philadelphia, where several reports have Comcast-Spectacor looking into firing the former Wizards coach at the end of the season.

In other action, the Los Angeles Lakers got another game-winning jumper from Kobe Bryant and the Milwaukee Bucks continue to roll as they defeated the Boston Celtics last night.


By Michael Lee  |  March 10, 2010; 10:38 AM ET
 
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Best case scenario for Les Wiz:

Gil's contract is rescinded by May 1st.

They win the John Wall sweepstakes.

Sign Dwyane Wade on July 1st.

Resign Singleton, Howard and Livingston.

Bye-bye Foye, Miller, Boykins & Oberto.

Posted by: elfreako | March 10, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

I mean DWade is barely going to make the playoffs with that ramshackle unit in South Beach.

Think what he could do here even if the Wizards land Turner, Johnson or Monroe...

Scary.

Posted by: elfreako | March 10, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The questions you have to ask yourself is; is it possible for Flip get this ramshackel bunch to play better and should they be playing better?

And then, once we get better players going forward, are we sure that Flip is the coach to mesh it all together?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Jordan's philosophy, which is overloaded on the offensive side with his high-IQ Princeton offense"

How high an IQ is it to simply overload the offense and completely ignore the defense (other than paying lip service)?

EJ has managed to turn the Sixers around, in the wrong direction that is. But don't feel sad for him, his income for the next year is secured.

Posted by: sagaliba | March 10, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I always wondered and I am sure someone knows, why did Philadelphia fire there coach from a couple of seasons ago anyway?

Weren't they playing exciting BBall and winning some games?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I would find it hard to imagine they could play too much better. They just don't have the players right now. They are bad at PG. They don't have a competent 2 guard. Blatche is looking good and Thornton is serviceable. We don't have a C yet.

I would keep Livingston around.

Posted by: millineumman | March 10, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The questions you have to ask yourself is; is it possible for Flip get this ramshackel bunch to play better and should they be playing better?

And then, once we get better players going forward, are we sure that Flip is the coach to mesh it all together?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 11:22 AM

IMHO, no, Flip wont get them playing better and no, he isnt the right coach. But we're so far away from having enough talent to where it matters it's not even an issue.

Develop AB/JM and see if we can bring Livingston along. Main goals for now.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

On the questions about Flip's suitability to build this team...

To me, the bigger, more fundamental need is to align 1) ownership, 2) the GM and front office, 3) the coaching staff and the 4) players so everyone is working towards the same basic plan and direction.

What we're coming off of, and it's reflected in our situation, is:

1. Pollin at war with Michael Jordan
2. Pollin hires EJ before he hired Grunfeld
3. Grunfeld doesn't like EJ and builds a team based on what he thinks will win (and who the owner wants), not on what the coach wants
4. Injuries, loses, EJ is fired
5. Flip is hired to lead a "veteran team" into the playoffs, injuries, trades
6. Abe Pollin dies, team for sales, ownership and GM in question, etc., etc.

Everyone know this, but the point is building a winning franchise is a top-to-bottom enterprise. You can't win when the major elements are constantly in conflict.

Posted by: jweber1 | March 10, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Morning brew missed this: Carlisle talks about "players from Washington" help Mavs' current NBA longest wining streak (12).

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2010/03/09/20100309_beat_carlilse.nba/

Posted by: sagaliba | March 10, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Predictable and inevitable. The new look Wiz coasted for longer than they had any right to on energy, enthusiasm, and the element of surprise, but it was bound to peter out, sooner rather than later. This is a patchwork team made up of spare parts. Just staying in games is an accomplishment at this point.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

On the questions about Flip's suitability to build this team...

To me, the bigger, more fundamental need is to align 1) ownership, 2) the GM and front office, 3) the coaching staff and the 4) players so everyone is working towards the same basic plan and direction

Posted by: jweber1

Exactly, I agree with all that. They have got to put a good coach in there and pledge support for him. That way he puts his philosophy to work and has influence to get rid of players that don't fit or don't work with what he is trying to do.

At times I wish we could have homegoing services for this awful season and see if those steps begin to take place. On the other hand I still love watching B-Ball and want to enjoy the playoffs and some good hoops.

Posted by: millineumman | March 10, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I always wondered and I am sure someone knows, why did Philadelphia fire there coach from a couple of seasons ago anyway?

Weren't they playing exciting BBall and winning some games?

LarryInClintonMD.
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They were at the bottom of the Eastern playoff teams, and they thought they can make it as a contender. But the reality is, they were probably already at the peak with their roster.

The GM did a bad job (giving big contracts to Brand, Dalembert, Igodula), and thought EJ would make him look better, and EJ thought he could do it too ( by turning down Sacramento's job offer).

Posted by: sagaliba | March 10, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Funny, isn't it, how Larry-boy is now so bullish on defense? I seem to recall not so very long ago that he was all about the uptempo offense and score, score, score, cavalierly dismissing the role of defense in winning NBA titles or getting to the Finals. I seem to remember some nonsense about how, if the Knicks hadn't focused so much on defense under Riley and Van Gundy and had, instead been an offensive team built around Mark Jackson that they'd have won a title. Never mind the fact that they got to the Finals twice as a defense first squad and never got out of the 2nd round with Jackson.

Funny how the script changes when a new whipping boy walks onto the stage.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"They have got to put a good coach in there and pledge support for him."

Flip's in the 1st year of a 4yr/$18mill deal, he's not going anywhere.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

They were at the bottom of the Eastern playoff teams, and they thought they can make it as a contender. But the reality is, they were probably already at the peak with their roster.

Posted by: sagaliba | March 10, 2010 12:25 PM

Yeah, it always kind of amazing when a team is competitive enough to be a playoff contender albeit a lower seed and they make a decision that destroys all that they have accomplished.

I guess staying the course wasn't good enough they thought. Now look at them.

In our case though, we had bigger issues.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"The GM did a bad job (giving big contracts to Brand, Dalembert, Igodula), and thought EJ would make him look better, and EJ thought he could do it too ( by turning down Sacramento's job offer)."

The 76ers firing Cheeks was a classic example of the GM canning the coach to cover up his own mistakes. Cheeks squeezed as much out of them as possible, maxing out their potential by tailoring a style that maximized their strengths and helped cover their weaknesses (much like EJ did here). When they added Brand to an uptempo running roster with no shooters, anyone could have seen a bad fit and trouble coming, anyone but the Sixers, GM apparently. Brand's arrival (combined with their playoff "success" the previous year) amped up expectations to unrealistic heights (sound familiar?) so when struggled to start (and, really, they were basically on the same pace they'd been on the previous season, so it's not like they backslid) Cheeks got the ceremonial ax. The real irony, of course, is that after Cheeks was canned and Brand got hurt, DiLeo basically squeezed them back into a playoff spot by running the exact same system that Cheeks had been using before he'd been forced to try and fit Brand into the mix.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Funny, isn't it, how Larry-boy is now so bullish on defense? I seem to recall not so very long ago that he was all about the uptempo offense and score, score, score, cavalierly dismissing the role of defense in winning NBA titles or getting to the Finals. I seem to remember some nonsense about how, if the Knicks hadn't focused so much on defense under Riley and Van Gundy and had, instead been an offensive team built around Mark Jackson that they'd have won a title. Never mind the fact that they got to the Finals twice as a defense first squad and never got out of the 2nd round with Jackson.

Funny how the script changes when a new whipping boy walks onto the stage.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 12:28 PM

Never dismissed the importance of defense. Haven't changed my stance on offense either.

It's just that this Team with Flip so far this season is so far off the beaten path, they don't know what fastbreak is.

Their transition points per game are atrocious.

Swoop To The Hoop would not be in Flip's coaching bag.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"Never dismissed the importance of defense. "

Untrue. But I don't really care enough to go back and dig up the copious amount of evidence.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I always wondered and I am sure someone knows, why did Philadelphia fire there coach from a couple of seasons ago anyway?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Larry,

Ed Stefanski the Sixers GM came from the Nets organization and like most teams in the NBA they went with the good ol boy hiring since he worked with EJ in New Jersey.

Just like Ernie hiring a retread instead of hiring a young coach with some former NBA playing experience...which works great in the NFL?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Morning brew missed this: Carlisle talks about "players from Washington" help Mavs' current NBA longest wining streak (12).

Posted by: sagaliba | March 10, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Carlisle also mentioned Jason Kidd who Dallas got from New Jersey in the Devin Harris trade.

Mark Cuban must love when he sees Ernie phone number pop up on his caller ID.

He knows he gets to steal some good players while getting rid of his trash?

Ernie should win the GM of the year for the Mavs this year!

Where are all of the Ernie defenders now that the players he has are showing their true colors?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

"Where are all of the Ernie defenders now that the players he has are showing their true colors?Posted by: bulletsfan78"

I haven't heard a lot of folks defending Grunfeld, who no doubt is on the way out anyway. I do think we scapegoat people around here -- a long list of them -- and it has more to do with our need to vent our anger than with an actual appraisal of performance. Around the League it's commonly felt that Washington is a zoo that good veterans should avoid if at all possible. And trading away players who go on to do well elsewhere just reinforces that picture.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I think what LarryUpInClinton meant when saying with the Wizard roster at that time and with the offensive firepower, defense does not have to be the main component of a winning team. I agreed with him. In the same manner, it is not with the current team as the current team holds teams right now to less than 100 points per game so far. What is the problem with the current team? It is not defense. It is offense.

In regards to defense, I know the value of it. But if you got no "O", then what? I think it is nearly impossible to hold NBA teams to 75 points per game on average.

People wanted more defense. They got it.

Posted by: G-Man11 | March 10, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Where are all of the Ernie defenders now that the players he has are showing their true colors?"

We were losing with the group this season and EG traded them all away to start the rebuilding process. Ernie did the right thing by blowing up the roster for expiring contracts because we would have lost next year with Gil, Caron, and AJ so its better to rebuild now than later (free agents, and new CBA 2011-2012 season).

As for the season right now those of you criticizing foye, miller and boykins forget about them. They are free agents this summer and you shouldn't get worked up since nobody in the organization said anything about contract extensions. The reason Saunders is not hard on these guys the way he is hard on blatche is because Blatche is part of the future so he expects more out of them. Anybody agree

Posted by: jefferu | March 10, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Some Eddie Jordan news! I guess those of you who questioned his coaching skills might have been on to something.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/87198237.html

Posted by: bullets_0000 | March 10, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Despite the fact that so many people on this blog made Eddie Jordan out to be the second coming of the messiah and the most talented person in the history of basketball other than Roger Mason Jr., it seems like he might not even last the season in Philly. So maybe the mind-bogglingly bad system he runs and his inability to get along with his players is the reason the Wizards before Gil's injuries only tapped out at 45 wins - and not the fact that Gil dumps in people's shoes.

SEE BELOW FROM THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER:

These sources indicated that Jordan could be fired before this season ends - if it becomes obvious he has lost the team - but more likely after the final game of this dismal season.

One of these sources also characterized Comcast-Spectacor chairman Ed Snider as "up in arms" about Jordan's coaching effort, with another source with intimate knowledge of the management's thinking calling Jordan's coaching "baffling."

An NBA source said Jordan's philosophy, which is overloaded on the offensive side with his high-IQ "Princeton" offense, was a mistake at its inception.

According to sources close to the team, the players "no longer believe in Jordan's coaching system or philosophies" and are trying to finish this season strong for pride and contractual obligation.

A source close to upper management within Comcast-Spectacor indicated that it's possible Jordan has only survived until now because the company already pulled one trigger, firing Stevens in early December and replacing him with Peter Laviolette.

According to team sources, the players have struggled all season with Jordan's "poor decision-making" during games and "no longer believe" in what Jordan is teaching.

Posted by: Urnesto | March 10, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh-oh. Targeting EJ's coaching deficiencies. A volcano might erupt.

Posted by: Dave381 | March 10, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Saunders is not hard on these guys the way he is hard on blatche is because Blatche is part of the future so he expects more out of them. Anybody agree

Posted by: jefferu | March 10, 2010 2:10 PM

Hopefully you're right and interestingly enough, that could well mean NY still has a potential future here in the eyes of management

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Tell that to Marcus Camby and Chris Andersen, both of whom are listed at around 230-235.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 1:38 PM

The organization should have higher expectations for JM than being a 7pt/11reb player like Camby or 20min/night role player like Birdman IMHO.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

As for the season right now those of you criticizing foye, miller...forget about them. They are free agents this summer and you shouldn't get worked up since nobody in the organization said anything about contract extensions.

Anybody agree

Posted by: jefferu | March 10, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

jefferu,

If the team doesn't resign MM or Foye that means Ernie traded last years 5th pick for nothing?

Hopefully the new owner will be like Comcast-Spectacor chairman Ed Snider and will pull the plug on the Ernie/Flip team and takes the team in another direction.

SF Al Thornton
PF Blatche
C McGee
SG Free Agent
PG Best PG at with thier Draft Pick

Nick Young is the only other player under contract besides Gil and the last thing the Wizards need is for him to come back to play for them.

The rest of the team will be either older free agents trying to hang around and get a pay check or more D league players.

With a new Owner, coach and GM it will be a fresh start.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I long for the days of C-Webb, J Howard and R Strickland.......

Posted by: go_wiz1 | March 10, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards lost their fourth game in a row on Tuesday, falling 96-88 to the Houston Rockets before the smallest crowd this season at Verizon Center.

I'm happy to read the Wizard fans are getting smarter.

The Pollin family showed the fans that money means everything so it's great to see the fans are showing them a ticket to a Wizard game isn't worth the money they are charging.

I feel sorry for the season ticket holders and that's the reason I gave mine up a few years ago.

BB fans we get to look forward to MD and G-Town in the NCAA tourny!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

if Josh Howard doesnt blow out his knee this team has 3 more wins since the break and people are talking how savvy EG was to make the trades.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

if Josh Howard doesnt blow out his knee this team has 3 more wins since the break and people are talking how savvy EG was to make the trades.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 3:22 PM

That sounds good and I think we would be better with Howard, but somehow, if Howard was good for 3 more wins, then that says a hellavu lot for him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

That sounds good and I think we would be better with Howard, but somehow, if Howard was good for 3 more wins, then that says a hellavu lot for him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 3:36 PM

Or does it say something about Miller, Ross, and Young?

Howard was a starter and former All_Star on a perennial contender in the superior conference- there's no doubt the guy can (could?) play.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

hellavu lot for him....and less for Flip.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Or does it say something about Miller, Ross, and Young?

Howard was a starter and former All_Star on a perennial contender in the superior conference- there's no doubt the guy can (could?) play.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 3:50 PM

That too. Agreed

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"The organization should have higher expectations for JM than being a 7pt/11reb player like Camby or 20min/night role player like Birdman IMHO."

Their first expectation should be for him to be a solid, smart contributing player, which both of those guys are. If he can't reach that plateau first then he has no chance of succeeding it. Moreover, the history of the NBA is filled with strong well muscled guys who stunk. McGee's problem is not his body, it's his head and the fact that there's precious little basic bball knowledge up there. Until that void is filled, he could have the body of Adonis and it wouldn't do anything but make him look nice and chiseled when he's leaping into the air on pump fakes 20 feet from the basket.

Oh, and dismissively describing Camby as a "7pt/11reb player" is some real primo straw-manning. (A) He was regularly a double-digit scorer in his prime with a career scoring average of about 11 ppg (B) The dude is 36 years old with 15 years of NBA mileage (C) the Wizards would do f*^ing cartwheels if they could get a consistent 7 and 11 from McGee right now, let alone 14 years from now.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"If he can't reach that plateau first then he has no chance of succeeding it."

Make that "exceeding" it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"Despite the fact that so many people on this blog made Eddie Jordan out to be the second coming of the messiah and the most talented person in the history of basketball other than Roger Mason Jr., it seems like he might not even last the season in Philly. So maybe the mind-bogglingly bad system he runs and his inability to get along with his players is the reason the Wizards before Gil's injuries only tapped out at 45 wins - and not the fact that Gil dumps in people's shoes."

Yes, because a coach getting fired is prima facie evidence that he sucks. Of course almost every coach gets fired eventually, so in the end, they all must suck, right?

Jordan did a lousy job in Philly. What does that say about the job he did in D.C.? Nothing. Just like the job Saunders is doing now says nothing about the job he did in Detroit or Minnesota, or the job Nellie is doing in G.S. says nothing about the job he did in Dallas, or the job Larry Brown did in NY said nothing about the jobs he did in (insert name of pretty much any other team in NBA history here). Different page, different story.

And the suggestion that Jordan was actually somehow holding this team back is gut-bustingly, abdominal wall tearingly hilarious.

Dude's gone, the team's been blasted apart. Let it go already.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

ElFreako is my man!

If his predictions come true, he ought to get an assistant coaching job with the Wiz.

Posted by: Izman | March 10, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"night role player like Birdman"

I remember when Flip first characterized Javale as a role player and coming in and giving the type of play in the vein of the Birdman.

I cringed inside.

You see and I know I will get disagreement on this. I don't consider McGee as just a role player.

I feel that McGee will be a solid Center and to continue to develop him as a role player is a hugh mistake, as Flip is doing.

McGee IMO should be developed as the number one Center and not as a part time fill in as Flip is doing even though he is starting now.

Role players are important but Javale McGee from where I sit is more than a role player. With all his greenery, at the end of the day, he does a damn good job.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

C) the Wizards would do f*^ing cartwheels if they could get a consistent 7 and 11 from McGee right now, let alone 14 years from now.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:06 PM

considering how many times he's bested those numbers, it's odd how hypercritical you are of the kid given he's played starter minutes all of 3 weeks.

And Mcgee will be a disappointment if all he amounts to is a taller Birdman.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"considering how many times he's bested those numbers, it's odd how hypercritical you are of the kid given he's played starter minutes all of 3 weeks."

Key word . . . "consistent." Helps when you read the whole thing. The only thing consistent about McGee so far is his consistent display of understanding the most basic fundamentals of the game.

"And Mcgee will be a disappointment if all he amounts to is a taller Birdman."

Who said anything about him only being as good as Birdman? Again, read all of the words, then comment. I said he should pattern his style of play after Andersen's by using his length, athleticism, and explosiveness to best advantage to make up for his lack of bulk. In other words by playing his game and maximizing his strong suits (as opposed to forcing him into a style that doesn't suit him and takes him out of his cmnfort zone). Where, in any of that, does it suggest that his ceiling is only being a 20 mpg role player like Andersen? Don't strain yourself. The answer is "nowhere." McGee clearly has significantly more natural physical ability than Andersen so even if he does adopt Andersen's approach, he can easily be a better player because he has more talent.

Done explaining the obvious now.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and the main reason Andersen only plays 22 mpg is because he's got a guy with more talent (Nene) playing ahead of him. If he played starter's minutes (which he'd do on a lot of teams), he'd likely be a double-double player with about 3 bpg. Now, last I checked, McGee had nobody playing ahead of him at C.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The organization should have higher expectations for JM than being a 7pt/11reb player like Camby or 20min/night role player like Birdman IMHO.
Posted by: divi3

And I'm sure they do. My original point with Camby and Chandler is that he doesn't have to be 275 to be effective. How about somewhere in between Camby and Kareem (who was a lanky guy himself)?

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

not sure what the comfort zone is for a "clueless" player. Super athletic garbage man? If that's the organizations plan for him, I hope he gets traded for his own good.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

And I'm sure they do. My original point with Camby and Chandler is that he doesn't have to be 275 to be effective. How about somewhere in between Camby and Kareem (who was a lanky guy himself)?

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2010 4:55 PM

All I said is he should be around his listed weight of 252 for maximum effectiveness, not the meth addict bodytype he currently shares with Birdman.

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"SF Al Thornton
PF Blatche
C McGee
SG Free Agent
PG Best PG at with thier Draft Pick[WIZARDS #1 pick?]"

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

That's nice for the starting five, but aren't there 15 on the roster normally even if FS let's at least four of them collect splinters? How about a second five?

Let OLDBERTO's contract expire. Xerox for CRITTENTON who hasn't been offered an extension anyway. And I'd be surprised if the team offered on HOWARD. He had a history of injury before the blow-out. I can't see us making any kind of move ala GILBERT on that torn-up knee. Let MIKE MILLER go as well.

So to start off a second rotation how about a new #5 center by sending YOUNG, ROSS if he exercises his player option, and the CAVS #1 to a club for a project pick around #'s 14-18. Next re-up SINGLETON's contract at #4 and use our second for a new #3 if ROSS is gone. Then FOYE and GILBERT at #1/2 combo.

Sign a FA forward like a JOE SMITH to a one year deal for front-line back-up, but someone with a bit more in the tank. Use BOYKINS for back-court depth at #12, and the KINGS second if it comes through for another #3 ala DOM McGUIRE. Otherwise, low-budget FA in that position.

If LIVINGSTON continues to show out, use him for player #14 and you have the league required minimum number of players. For number 15 pick a big-body long-term project from Europe.

That club is weak on paper, but should be relatively young and hungry with the exception of GILBERT and a FA forward JOE SMITH-type.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 10, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

And yet Andersen and his "meth addict" physique is a highly effective vital contributor to a contending team, despite not having nearly McGee's length or athleticism. Funny that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Gotta' diss the old blog until Monday. Going to ATLANTIC CITY for b-ball weekend. GO SPIDERS!!!!!

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 10, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

All I said is he should be around his listed weight of 252 for maximum effectiveness, not the meth addict bodytype he currently shares with Birdman.

Posted by: divi3

Apologies, I may have extrapolated the 25 lbs you said he should add from his listed weight. Forgot to take into account your point that he's probably lighter than that this far into the season. And don't be hatin on the Birdman, he's making an NBA career out of hops and hustle.

Specific weights aside, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that he needs to be stronger to hold his position when he needs to, but not bulk up so much that he loses his spring. And then he needs to spend the rest of the season and the offseason working on his BB-IQ. Playing more will help that some. But he does need some serious big-man lessons. Is Pete Newell's Big Man's camp still around? I know Pete passed away, but are they still running his camp? Javale would be a prime candidate.

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

night role player like Birdman"

I remember when Flip first characterized Javale as a role player and coming in and giving the type of play in the vein of the Birdman.

I cringed inside.

You see and I know I will get disagreement on this. I don't consider McGee as just a role player.

I feel that McGee will be a solid Center and to continue to develop him as a role player is a hugh mistake, as Flip is doing.

McGee IMO should be developed as the number one Center and not as a part time fill in as Flip is doing even though he is starting now.

Role players are important but Javale McGee from where I sit is more than a role player. With all his greenery, at the end of the day, he does a damn good job.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

That should have been the plan from the out set, but who is going to make the right move to change those type of thinkings? JM is the only person who has to do the right thing, to make them believe that he is more than a role player.At this point he is noting.

Posted by: gtefferra | March 10, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2010 5:26 PM

Birdman is a solid role player who would be great to have on our team, he's just not in the same league as what I think the Wiz should be hoping for Mcgee.

Ewing is always sniffing around for a job, maybe the org could entice him to spend a few weeks working the kid out. Heck, bring Zo in if he's physically able, dude is always around DC anyway.

but the organization needs to take steps to start maximizing ROI with these guys. As kal said, AB always talks a big game then spends the summer eating wings and playing cards at the Hooters on 7th&I.

somebody should be on them!

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Grunfeld was at least smart enough to blow up what was clearly not working instead of just axing the coach.

First few games this young group was creating some offense by creating some havoc on defense and just getting out in their lanes and running.

Some bright light on here called that street ball. Efficent transition basketball brought about by helping, trapping D, is just basketball 101. Larry knows what I'm talking about, that's just basic basketball.

Teams at the NBA level will react and adjust to that really quick.

In an 82 game NBA schedule, you don't win without the horses. Right now Flip's trying to win a horse race with a few plow horses in the barn.

One thing's pretty clear, there will be a new owner. If you read the tea leaves a little, I'd say the new owner already had a hand in the trade deadline purge. When you're in negotiations to buy a sports entertainment franchise, do you think the present owners would purge the team of it's marketing draws without your approval?

Ted went through this same kind of thing with the Caps after the Jamir Jagar deal didn't get him over the top. He blew up a playoff team that was useally one or two rounds and done & started over.

This has Ted's finger prints all over it. Does he clean house in the front office too? Does he dump a coach with a playoff pedigree?

Don't know, no way of telling how he reacts once he's got control of the operation. My quess is Ernie may have to fall on the sword for that #5 pick trade. It's looking more and more like the Wiz end up with nothing from that deal.

Can't blow top five picks. It looked so practical at the time. Who knew the team chemistry was about to blow up? Now it looks like a deal that could get Ernie fired. Just wonder if Ted has any graditude for Ernie shipping the Vets out so he didn't have to do it himself...

Posted by: flohrtv | March 10, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

"Despite the fact that so many people on this blog made Eddie Jordan out to be the second coming of the messiah and the most talented person in the history of basketball other than Roger Mason Jr., it seems like he might not even last the season in Philly. So maybe the mind-bogglingly bad system he runs and his inability to get along with his players is the reason the Wizards before Gil's injuries only tapped out at 45 wins - and not the fact that Gil dumps in people's shoes."

The Washington and Philadelphia situations seem to me to be quite similar. In neither situation has the coach, as such, been the primary problem-causer. Both coaches by the time they were selected for their positions had long resumes of playing a system (Princeton for Jordan, PG-centric for Saunders) that simply did not fit the personnel of the teams they were expected to coach.

Should Jordan and Saunders themselves have recognized the "fit" problem and not accepted the positions? Probably, but I imagine they thought they could cope.

But certainly the GMs who chose them for the jobs could and should have identified the potential for disaster and made other selections. And that's where I think the buck needs to stop for both teams: with the GM.

Posted by: fansincebullets | March 10, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

"Yes, because a coach getting fired is prima facie evidence that he sucks. Of course almost every coach gets fired eventually, so in the end, they all must suck, right?

Jordan did a lousy job in Philly. What does that say about the job he did in D.C.? Nothing. Just like the job Saunders is doing now says nothing about the job he did in Detroit or Minnesota, or the job Nellie is doing in G.S. says nothing about the job he did in Dallas, or the job Larry Brown did in NY said nothing about the jobs he did in (insert name of pretty much any other team in NBA history here). Different page, different story.

And the suggestion that Jordan was actually somehow holding this team back is gut-bustingly, abdominal wall tearingly hilarious.

Dude's gone, the team's been blasted apart. Let it go already."

While virtually all coaches eventually get fired, the difference with EJ is that he has a career losing percentage and has never had any great success anywhere. Hence, I attribute the success of the "Big 3" prior to GA's knee injury to the fact that he had three all-star caliber players on the team who were in the prime of their respective careers. Most coaches couldn't screw that up and he didn't, but he also didn't get further than the second round with that group and it was possible. Which begs the question, how many times has he done more with less or exceeded expectations? Maybe once. The year GA was out and he still made the first round with BH, AJ, and CB. But, again, he stilled had two players in all-star caliber form in what was an extremely weak conference that season. I believe that was the year LeBron made the Finals as a one man team. Finally, his players seem to develop extremely bad habits both defensively and with assists on offense. One thing is certain, the Sixers were a very decent defensive team prior to his arrival. They are no longer with the same roster and that is why he is going to be fired.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 10, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Flip need to calm down.He still think he is coaching a good team.He can be in the heads of young players like AB but he has to add some nice appriciation as a reinforcment.
He will remain the coach in washington unless he quit which is unheard before,neither the widowed nor the new owner would like to take 4 million for three more years.His resume is now bad, it is unlikely for flip to pick a job for 2-3 years if he is kicked out from here.

Posted by: gtefferra | March 10, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

While virtually all coaches eventually get fired, the difference with EJ is that he has a career losing percentage and has never had any great success anywhere. Hence, I attribute the success of the "Big 3" prior to GA's knee injury to the fact that he had three all-star caliber players on the team who were in the prime of their respective careers.
Posted by: rphilli721

So you say he had no success anywhere, which is his fault, except for the one place he did have success, which he doesn't get credit for? Isn't that kind of having you cake and eating it too?

I'm not trying to defend Eddie per se, I think he was just an ok coach, but I at least try to give people credit for their accomplishments. It's like when people try to say EG has never made any good moves in DC despite putting together the team that made 4 playoff runs. Ultimately it's not good enough, but when you think about the vast wasteland of Wizards / Bullets basketball, putting that team together from essentially nothing was an accomplishment. We could all obviously go over the things we think Ernie did wrong, but the fact remains that it went from essentially zero to moderately successful.

So just be fair and give Ernie and Eddie their due where they deserve it.

Posted by: ts35 | March 10, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

But certainly the GMs who chose them for the jobs could and should have identified the potential for disaster and made other selections. And that's where I think the buck needs to stop for both teams: with the GM.


Posted by: fansincebullets | March 10, 2010 6:19 PM

Yeah, I am with you on that. It is the very reason why I thought Mark Jackson would be the best selection for the Wizards.

You see with the experience of the big three, this Team sorely needed the integration of Blatche, McGee, JC and others to make the Team really viable beyond the Big Three.

Flip, I accepted as a good hire because of his resume, a safe bet, but his traditional NBA coaching repertoire turns out so far to have been a huge mistake.

Mark Jackson, even though with no coaching experience continues to expouse the type understanding of the game that would have or could have made this a complete team.

This would have been a huge gamble by EG, but as they say in Vegas, sometimes you have to let it ride. It could not have been any worse than we areis' now.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

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