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Lacking the calming influence

The new-look Wizards suffered a heartbreaking loss in Boston on Sunday, as they squandered a 13-point lead with six minutes remaining and lost 86-83 at TD Garden. After the game, Andray Blatche tried to explain the loss on simplistic terms: "Basketball is all about a game of runs. We made our runs, they made their runs. It's unfortunate that their run was at the end of the game."

The Celtics closed out the game on a 20-4 run, with the Wizards melting down in the process. Coach Flip Saunders focused on Andray Blatche's interactions with Kevin Garnett as the turning point of the game, but it really came down to the Wizards' lack of poise as the Celtics - primarily Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo - came charging.

"They panicked," Saunders explained. "We didn't have a settling factor on the floor to be able to settle us down. We did not make one play down the stretch."

After Blatche gave the Wizards a 79-66 lead with 6:11 remaining, they went missed nine of 11 shots and had two turnovers, including an offensive foul by Al Thornton. Randy Foye was responsible for the two field goals, as he found JaVale McGee for alley-oop dunk that ended a 10-0 run to put the Wizards ahead 81-76, and a pull up jumper that helped them regain the lead at 83-82 with 1:17 left.

But Foye was also responsible for missing five of those shots, including several rushed jumpers that resulted in scoring opportunities for the Celtics. Saunders didn't want to single out Foye, saying, "Randy and everybody made bad decisions."

Before the game, Saunders spoke about Foye's development as a point guard. "Most of your point guards are gray players. They aren't black and white. They explore. They see what's there. If there is a seam there, they are aggressive. If there is not a seam, they get into the offense," Saunders said. "He's known as being a very good scorer and we don't want him to go away from that. But it's like a young quarterback in football, they look to one read. You're trying to look at first, second and maybe third. Read everything."

Foye had played a solid floor game for the first three quarters, as he handed out a game-high seven assists over that stretch. He had also kept Rondo is relative check, until Rondo decided that he was done coasting though the game and scored 13 points in the final 14 minutes. Foye responded with some ill-advised shots.

Foye took a three-pointer early in the shot clock that set up a fastbreak dunk for Allen that made the score 79-72. He took another long jumper that led to Rondo sprinting up the floor a driving layup that brought the Celtics within two. Rondo got fouled by Thornton and later missed the free throw, which the Celtics recovered and hit Allen for the go-ahead three-pointer.

And, with the Wizards leading by a point with 41 seconds remaining, Foye decided to take a three-pointer early in the shot clock. He missed and Allen made the Wizards pay when he buried the decisive three-pointer with 17.1 seconds remaining.

"They was trying to get us out of our sets to take quick shots, forced shots and we played into their hands," Foye said. "Most of the shots I took felt good. They were just short or a little long. The main thing is I felt as though we played good, but the last four and a half minutes was sloppy. We still was bringing it."

It was the second time since the all-star break that the Wizards lost a game in which they led by double digits in the fourth quarter. They also blew a 10-point lead in Toronto, where the Raptors used a 14-0 run to pull out a 109-104 victory.

"We gotta learn, obviously," Mike Miller said. "This is a sign of a young team. When stuff rolls like that, we gotta slow down. We sped up. When you speed up, you can't make decisions. You don't see guys when they're open. It's hard to make shots. We just played at a speed we hadn't played at all game."

The Wizards were disappointed afterward that they were unable to add the Celtics to the list of stunned playoff caliber teams that already includes Denver and Chicago. "That's the hardest thing," Miller said. "We played great for three quarters. But NBA basketball games, as far as I know, is four quarters."

By Michael Lee  |  March 8, 2010; 3:16 PM ET
 
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"They panicked," Saunders explained and I'm clueless on what to do about it?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 8, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Why wasn't Miller hitting baskets in the last quarter?

Posted by: Blurred | March 8, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I am with you on that BF.

If you are clueless, how do you justify being a coach?

Posted by: Blurred | March 8, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

KG is KG, he has always trash talked. yes, Wiz let Celtics dictated what they wanted to do late in the 4th Q, but I saw that as the failure of the whole team than KG got into one single person's head.

Judged by the fact that KG shot 0 for 7, with 4 TOs, he might have gotten into his own head than anyone else's.

Posted by: sagaliba | March 8, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

bulletsfan78,

Do you mean to say,

"They panicked," Saunders explained, "and I'm clueless on what to do about it?"

:-)

Posted by: sagaliba | March 8, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

just read Flip's post game comments from Kal's post, and man you have to be kidding me....!!!! Now as I stated before, I am a big Flip fan. I have had no problems with his sub calling this year until last night. Keeping Foye in at the point is what lost the game, not AB going back and forth with KG.

For Flip to call out AB like that is totally crazy. What else was AB supposed to do....??? KB has always been a trash talker and he was the one starting it all. If AB would not have said anything everybody would have been calling him "soft".

Flip really needs to watch himself. He was totally wrong on his comments. He needs to look in the mirror and realize HE IS THE ONE who lost the game last night. He had Bokins and Livenston right there on the bench the whole 4th quarter and did not use them for Foye.

He also needs to call out Mike Miller also then if he is going to start calling out people. If I see that dude dribble penatrate into the paint and kick out to a wing player one more time without shooting I am going to SCREAM.

Everybody knows that what he does and that is why everybody "jumps" the passing lanes the minute he drives because EVERYBODY knows he is not going to shoot the dang rock. How can you be a starting shooting guard and take only 7 shots in 41 minutes????? Please somebody explain.

Lastly, Dre was unable to score because all of the other teams are double teaming and doubling down on him and he can not get a shot off. That is where your so called "starting backcourt" is supposed to create offense to shut that down.

Flip please watch yourself, because brother you were wrong on your post game comments last night.....

Posted by: BulletsFever | March 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Classic stuff from Flip.
Did Mike Lee reall run down all 5 of Foye's misses after giving him credit fro the McGee oop. He made it seem like Rf singlehandedly lost the game for us. No mention of how a "juiced up" KG took over down the stretch.
BTW did he say the RF the defensive maven gave up 13 pts in 14 mins? Yikes, I'd like to see a real statline of any guy who took it to Gil like that in the money quarter, and didn't get at least 15 pts back in his grill.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"We didn't have a settling factor on the floor to be able to settle us down..." I thought this something a coach should be able to do with the use of timeouts and calling plays for his players? I hate that Flip is putting this all on his players. Fact is they are a young team. You can't expect them to play like savvy vets.

Posted by: tundey | March 8, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

It was a heartbreaking game, because the young guys did play well enough to win, but alas, this was the Wizards, and this is what happens, more often than not, even when they look good, they lose.

I have read a lot of their quotes and some of the coach's, and one of their frequent comments about building a new team is, "we're looking for guys who are smart basketball players with a high b-ball IQs." I agree, but please why don't you also look for players who know how to speak to the media. Our team has the worst grammar of any team in any sport that I have ever seen or heard. C'mon elementary school grammar! Caron and Antawn were bad, and now Andray, Al, Foye, Young, McGee, Miller, and even Saunders. Sorry, it does not reflect well on the team. No wonder Barkley makes so many jokes about them being stupid! Geeez! I long for one of our few well-spoken players, Brendan Haywood. And oh, I also miss his presence inside, although McGee seems to be getting better. But, he still needs to take a grammar lesson as well..

Sorry for the afternoon rant..

Posted by: faninAlex | March 8, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: faninAlex | March 8, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

How many grammar competitions give out awards that look like the Larry O'Brien trophy?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Castigating the Wizards for bad grammar then invoking Charles Barkley as a critical ally is beyond ironic.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 8, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Sh!& i didn't even read the whole post the best part is the Barkley reference in an article complaining about grammar. In the words of Sir Charles "Turrrrrrrrbul"

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"Keeping Foye in at the point is what lost the game, not AB going back and forth with KG."

What other choices did he have? Boykins is, well, Boykins. And Livingston hasn't played meaningful NBA minutes in forever. Hard to see how playing either of those guys in place of Foye would have significantly increased their chances of winning. Foye was probably the best of a number of less than appealing choices.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 8, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

A calming influence -- we could use one.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

samson...do you mean on this board? or on the team?

Posted by: Blurred | March 8, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

i think everyone is on the same page of putting the young guys out there and letting them learn. this was one of those learning games. blatch handled himself well under the glare of KG and Perkins. seems to me he held up his end. he learned some thing in the game. as far as not scoring in the last few minutes...can't do it without the ball. foye jacked up that 3 there at the end, that was ridiculous. did foye learn anything? only time will tell. no moral victories, just learning experiences. c'mon, next year with a point guard running the show things will be better. it was entertaining 'til the end. flip, get a grip. he's not coaching a veteran laden team, with a true leader running the show. right now he's supposed to be the leader and it seems he's sulking because it all fell apart around him. maybe with some time off over the summer, come in fresh for traing camp, knowing what to expect, will bring out the teacher, leader in him. IMO he's capable of being that looking at his record, but i think this season has been like the twight zone for him(*Theme from the Twight Zone*)

Posted by: joerutgens72 | March 8, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

1/ "They panicked," Saunders explained. "We didn't have a settling factor on the floor to be able to settle us down. We did not make one play down the stretch."

- Flip Saunders

Yo Flip, I thought you said about two months ago this is what Earl Bokins brings to the table.....?? This exact "calming" factor is supposed to be something he is able to do, right? So the question is "why was he not in there for Foye when everybody including my wife could see Foye was struggling...??

2/ Saunders didn't want to single out Foye, saying, "Randy and everybody made bad decisions."

I am trying to figure out what bad decisions the front line made. All of the bad decisions were being made by a "shoot first" 2 guard trying to play the 1 and a "pass first" 3 forward trying to play the 2 spot.

Somebody needs to tell Mike Miller AJ, CB and Haywood are not HERE ANYMORE. M&M now has to change his pass first mentality and start shooting the dang ball. That will take some of the pressure off of AB.

Again, if M&M does not want to do that, heck let NY come in and get them minutes. Yea, NY looks lost but one thing for sure you at least know he is going to shoot the ball and try to score.

3/ The main thing is I felt as though we played good, but the last four and a half minutes was sloppy. We still was bringing it." Foye...

Can somebody please tell me what game was this Foye was watching or much less playing in...??? How were they still bring it...?? Does he mean him dribbling the ball in one spot for 22 seconds and then trying to pass the ball off....???

*** Just to note, I am not a Foye hater. I like his game, but not at the "1". He is a good backup "2" guard and that is it. Also not a M&M hater either, but the dude needs to understand this is a new team and he has to make himself a everyday "scoring threat" now, bottom line....


Posted by: BulletsFever | March 8, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"samson...do you mean on this board? or on the team?Posted by: Blurred"

At the moment, probably both.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

did we run faninAlex off? Soory partna, just not a big grammar and spelling contingent round here.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Flip-Flop strikes again.

Posted by: artiesliver | March 8, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

It borders on hilarious that Flip puts NY in for 3mins, he misses 1 shot, then it's to the bench for the duration. I mean, what is that exactly? He really does not like the kid

Posted by: divi3 | March 8, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

There is no "they" in organized sports, but there sure is on chat boards.

The last time I tuned in, Kal was pushing Critter as the PG of the future.

And Samson liked the distribution of minutes (last year) for McGuire and McGee.

Some things never change, even Kal's and Samson's retorts.

Posted by: Izman | March 8, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

It borders on hilarious that Flip puts NY in for 3mins, he misses 1 shot, then it's to the bench for the duration. I mean, what is that exactly? He really does not like the kid

Posted by: divi3 | March 8, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse
didn't want Ny's offensive ineptitiude to stand in the way of a Quinton Ross offensive explosion.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Flip's actual comments from NBA.com that the post is to PC to report:

"Well, we choked," Wizards coach Flip Saunders said. "Six minutes to go, we're up 13. We got young guys, they don't know what it's like to be in a situation. We start talking to Garnett, start talking trash and everything else. Got Garnett and those guys juiced up and we just pissed down our leg the last six minutes.

http://www.nba.com/games/20100307/WASBOS/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0020900937

Posted by: MeviousMan | March 8, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Izman

Haven't you learned by reading kal's post it's never the owner, GM or coaches fault it's always the "player".

If they were great like MJ, Larry or Magic they wouldn't panic they would be able to rise above it?

These are young kids who need guidance and a coach who wants to be that type of coach.

I hope the new owner fires Ernie, Flip, the medical staff, trainers, Gil, and kal.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 8, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Well, it seems that there are a lot of comments here that have been and are my sentiments exactly.

But about the guard situation, isn't it ironic that the answer to our guard situation is both an expensive one and a cheap one.

Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton.

Sometimes you have to swallow your bride and dig through trash to retrieve something that you still need.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Flip's comments seem like an overreaction, but it was in the heat of the moment.

From a distance, sounds like a typical NBA game where the home team stays within striking distance and then goes on a furious run to close out the game. And the fans go home happy.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | March 8, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

That's a freudian slip about your bride,I suspect.

And digging through trash to retrieve something that you still need could easily pertain to either Crit's or Gil's guns.

Posted by: Izman | March 8, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

and all this time i thought it was the bride that was supposed to be swallowin

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"There is no "they" in organized sports, but there sure is on chat boards.
The last time I tuned in, Kal was pushing Critter as the PG of the future.
And Samson liked the distribution of minutes (last year) for McGuire and McGee.
Some things never change, even Kal's and Samson's retorts.Posted by: Izman"

I don't think you're getting smarter.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess bride and pride as I meant to say is pretty daggon close any way you look at it.

The two, Gilbert and Crit have been suspended and kicked out of the house so-to-speak, but not barred or divorced from the league.

So freudian slip or whatever, the point is that our guard play is pitiful and those two might be the solution going forward next season.

The Gilbert haters might have to suck it up and shut up, becuase those two gunslingers might be just what this team needs.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The Gilbert haters might have to suck it up and shut up, becuase those two gunslingers might be just what this team needs.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

I know you're upset about your Tar Heels but the last thing the Wizards need is Gil at the point.

Thay need to draft a point guard and let him grow with the bigs we have to see what kind of team they will make...

and Flip needs to go since he's proven he isn't interested in being a teacher and a coach.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 8, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

"Izman Haven't you learned by reading kal's post it's never the owner, GM or coaches fault it's always the "player".
If they were great like MJ, Larry or Magic they wouldn't panic they would be able to rise above it?" posted by bulletsfan78

That's a good pairing: bulletsfan and izman.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Just think, replace Mike Miller with Gilbert Arenas and Randy Foye with Javaris Crittenton.

Can you beat that? If you can, do it. But if you cannot, it is better than a bird in hand, it is two birds in hand, no pun intended.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

BF78,

Now you know I have never thought Gil should be the point and yes Flip has to go.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Crit and Gil is THE answer, but only that they are a viable alternative to still consider.

And you and I agree, coaching is tremendously important, unlike some of our fellow guru's on here.

No pun intended.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

"The Calming Influence" comes with experience says the ZEN-master. Let 'um learn.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Larry In Clinton has been sucking on his glass crack pipe tonite. How in the world can you even fathom bringing back Crittenton and Arenas. Now Arenas granted may have to be back due to his situation and the fact that he has zippy trade value right now. Best case scenario at this point is probably pointing towards moving him over the summer to one of the teams that strike out on a big name free agent (ie. Knicks, Clippers). If not they are going to have to figure out some way to hit the reset button on a PR campaign that paints Arenas as a man on a mission to re-establish himself and for everyone to root for a second chance. Hopefully build his trade value up and once again trade him to a team around the trade deadline even if it means sending a lot of cash with him to get him out of town. I personally hope he never wears a Wizards uniform ever again, but if he has to, may it be an incredibly short stay. Crittenton will probably end up playing on a lower level European squad. Its going to take a while for Crittenton to earn a chance back in the NBA. No team will touch him with an extra large Larry In Clinton crack pipe. By the way how lame is it to sign your name at the bottom of your blog entry when its included at the bottom of the screen automatically. Also I'm not sure how proud I would be to be pimpin Clinton much less P.G. County. I've got friends on the P.G. County police force and there's nothing to be proud of down there. Just a lot of crack and a lot of shooting going on. Which may explain Larry's infatuation with Gilbert and Crittenton.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Someone clue AB. When you have the CONFIDENCE to know you're playing well, and your opponant becomes more and more vociferious, you realize HE's the one losing it. Chill, and dunk on him. Just experience needed, nothing more.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Which may explain Larry's infatuation with Gilbert and Crittenton.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Uh, LARRY. You have been called out.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

"Chill, and dunk on him. Just experience needed, nothing more.Posted by: glawrence007"

That's a fair assessment. I was just pleased to see the front line play with such energy after getting embarrassed by the Bucks. That's probably more important than victories at this point.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Maybe some aroma therapy is needed in the locker room, and I don't mean dirty gym socks.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | March 8, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Which may explain Larry's infatuation with Gilbert and Crittenton.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Uh, LARRY. You have been called out.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 8, 2010 8:53 PM

Glawrence007,

Some kinda callin out.

Does this dunce know that PGC is the number one middle class county in America. There is a cross criteria of data that is used to rank the most prolific and prosperous middle class counties in America and Prince Georges County has kicked Montgomery and Fairfax Counties to the curb.

Don't know where he lives, but before you start calling counties crack havens you ought not to show how ignorant you are.

And Gilbert and Crittenton is all about balling on the court. Gil and Crit are two real possibilities that is a viable consideration next year and it is too bad that ElBigChroizo can't see past his own prejudice.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Flip has flopped, and after those post game comments, he has now flipped.

Posted by: Theone9 | March 8, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Flip, flopped, and flipped. Try to say that fas three times.

Posted by: Theone9 | March 8, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

You guys are a frigging joke! What the hell is FS supposed to do? He has no options in case you brainiacs haven't noticed. Good lord. The sarcasm and pure pessimism on this board is nauseating sometimes.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 8, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Flip, flopped, and flipped. Try to say that fast three times.

Posted by: Theone9 | March 8, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

@wood,

Who cares what AJ was doing at the time? That does not negate years of poor practice and game readiness habits. It's been revealed that he just recently has taken things like game plans, scouting reports, and lifting weights seriously. There is more going on than your simple arm chair coaching can possibly fathom. Even though I called for Blatche to start at the time and have AJ come of the bench, I understand this. Apparently you do not.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 8, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

"Does this dunce know that PGC is the number one middle class county in America. There is a cross criteria of data that is used to rank the most prolific and prosperous middle class counties in America and Prince Georges County has kicked Montgomery and Fairfax Counties to the curb."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

Got some references on that Larry?

Howard, Calvert and Montgomery counties I see on the list, PGC, not so much.

Posted by: ts35 | March 8, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

VA doubling up on you MD chumps as usual ;)

25 highest-income counties by median household income (2009)

Number of counties by state in following lists: Virginia 8, Maryland 4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States#25_highest-income_counties_by_median_household_income_.282009.29_.5B1.5D

Posted by: divi3 | March 8, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

@rphilli721 i think i was talking about AB playing well while AJ was hurt. I wasn't trying to take a swipe at AJ in any way with that one. I'm glad that you thought AB was good enough to start over AJ (your armchair must look like mine). But i really don't know what you're trying to say with the whole " more going on ...." deal. I guess i don't understand so enlighten me.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 10:23 PM | Report abuse

You guys are a frigging joke! What the hell is FS supposed to do? He has no options in case you brainiacs haven't noticed. Good lord. The sarcasm and pure pessimism on this board is nauseating sometimes.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 8, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse
all the EG and FS co@k$moking is nauseating. I swear a halfway decent coach coulda pulled at least 1 W out of the past 3. Really, no one's saying hasn't done a good coaching job in past locales, or that he can't possibly turn this team around next year. I think a lot of people would say that this year hasn't been his best coaching job. I'd say he's done a poor job coaching this team and managing the personalities. Sometimes it's more about doing what you have to do versus doing what you want to do. Maybe a coach shouldn't have to deal with headcases like NY,GA,AB,and JM; but when Flip signed the dotted line for however many millions he inherited them. He clearly tried to ignore them with the exception of Gil. Now he's got some guys that he doesn't trust logging big mins in clutch situations. It's wearing on him as you could see from his misplaced lambasting of AB. selective accountability :coaching 101.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/08/AR2010030804012.html"

That ticking sound you hear is the timer on the dwindling moments of Nick Young's career.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 8, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/08/AR2010030804012.html

That ticking sound you hear is the timer on the dwindling moments of Nick Young's career.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 8, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

NY puts it in print that he's going back to the old NY. He will never play another minute as a Wizard.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

"In his only notable performance since the all-star break, Young scored 12 points and played stellar defense against Denver point guard Chauncey Billups in the fourth quarter of the Wizards' surprising 107-97 win over the Nuggets on Feb. 19."

so Flip played him 4mins the next game.

Posted by: divi3 | March 8, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

That ticking sound you hear is the timer on the dwindling moments of Nick Young's career.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 8, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter what NY says.

The only reason Flip is playing AB and JM is because Irene told Ernie to get the team under the cap?

If not we would still be watching AJ and Caron and Flip and kal would be telling us AB and JM aren't getting it done in practice so they don't deserve any playing time?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 8, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

To: ElBigChroizo- You are an idiot and a loser.I bet you dad is also your brother. And Gilbert Arenas will be the best story in basketball next year...Of course the Wizards will probably blow it and have some other team reap the rewards of his turn around. With a solid point guard this team will have something to build on.

Posted by: lemekdivine | March 8, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

VA doubling up on you MD chumps as usual ;)
25 highest-income counties by median household income (2009)
Number of counties by state in following lists: Virginia 8, Maryland 4"

LOL probably because they don't spend any money on roads...

Seriously though, Virginia has 95 counties, versus 24 in Maryland (includes Baltimore city).

2008 Maryland pop: 5.6 mil
Virginia: 7.7 mil


Posted by: Samson151 | March 8, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

my homeboy asked me to ask what yall think about sending NY to the dleague to "hone his skills" til next year.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 8, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Mybe we can trade him for Alonzo Gee I heard he's a player?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 8, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Rank County Median Household Income Population Educational Attainment*
1 Loudoun County, Virginia $110,643 277,433 58%
2 Fairfax County, Virginia $106,785 1,005,980 60%
3 Howard County, Maryland $101,710 272,412 60%
4 Hunterdon County, New Jersey $100,947 129,000 52%
5 Somerset County, New Jersey $100,207 321,589 53%
6 Fairfax, Virginia $98,133 23,281 52%
7 Morris County, New Jersey $97,565 486,459 52%
8 Douglas County, Colorado $97,480 270,286 54%
9 Arlington County, Virginia $96,390 204,889 71%
10 Montgomery County, Maryland $93,999 942,747 59%
11 Nassau County, New York $93,579 1,352,817 45%
12 Stafford County, Virginia $89,536 120,219 36%
13 Calvert County, Maryland $89,049 88,126 30%
14 Prince William County, Virginia $88,675 358,719 38%
15 Putnam County, New York $88,580 99,195 40%
16 Goochland County, Virginia $88,552 20,494 32%
17 Williamson County, Tennessee $88,316 165,336 53%
18 Marin County, California $88,101 246,985 55%
19 Santa Clara County, California $87,287 1,734,756 46%
20 Forsyth County, Georgia $86,938 158,009 46%
21 Charles County, Maryland $86,586 140,032 28%
22 Summit County, Utah $85,258 35,448 53%
23 Alexandria, Virginia $85,135 140,657 63%
24 Chester County, Pennsylvania $84,844 485,083 51%
25 Suffolk County, New York $84,767 1,510,716 34%

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmmmmmmm I don't see PG County anywhere on that list Larry. Pretty pathetic my friend. Next time you take your fingers off your crack pipe how about doing your homework before you spew some BS statistics that only exist in your head. Ah I forgot you don;t know what homework is. Well let's work this out together home work. So take it in reverse work home. It means that it is work you do at home. When you are away from a controlled environment and work on your own time. I understand its a novel concept but one that you can pick up on quickly if we are lucky.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

PG County
The median income for a household in the county was $55,256, and the median income for a family was $62,467; these figures rose to $68,410 and $79,373 respectively as of a 2007 estimate.[13] Males had a median income of $38,904 versus $35,718 for females. The per capita income for the county was $23,360. About 5.30% of families and 7.70% of the population were below the poverty line, including 9.20% of those under age 18 and 6.90% of those age 65 or over. Prince George's County is the most affluent county with an African-American majority in the United States

Prince George’s County accounted for 20% of murders in the state of Maryland from 1985 to 2006.[14] A twenty year crime index trends study performed by Prince George's County Police Department Information Resource Management, showed the county had a 23.1% increase in total crime for the years of 2000 to 2004. Between the years of 1984 to 2004, Prince George’s had a 62.8% increase in total crime

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | March 8, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

"Does this dunce know that PGC is the number one middle class county in America. There is a cross criteria of data that is used to rank the most prolific and prosperous middle class counties in America and Prince Georges County has kicked Montgomery and Fairfax Counties to the curb."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

Got some references on that Larry?

Howard, Calvert and Montgomery counties I see on the list, PGC, not so much.

Posted by: ts35 | March 8, 2010 10:08 PM

I am sorry and I do apologize for mistating and making a grave error about middle class counties in America.

In my haste to address a prejudicial brushing of Prince Georges County as a crack, pistoleros, crime infested haven, I mistated its affluentcy only in the since that I should have included the word Black.

Prince Georges County is the most affluent African American/Black County in America.

Now, to some, that might not mean much to them, but crack smoking and being prejudicial about where someone lives, really had nothing to do with me asserting that Javaris and Gil might still be one of the best options at the Guard position for the Washington Wizards next year.

I guess to some, the mere thought of those two coming back evokes racial undertones as a reason why they should not be considered.

That is really to bad. The Wizards have every right not to consider bringing those two back, but I assure it won't be because of someone's prejudicial characterization of Prince Georges County.

But'Cha'See, no where in ElBigChroizo comment was there any basketball reason why Gil and Crit would not be a viable option for next year.

The fellow just chose to attack me and where I live. I guess cause I live in PGC that is reason enough for Gil and Crit not to play for the Wizs.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Does this dunce know that PGC is the number one middle class county in America. There is a cross criteria of data that is used to rank the most prolific and prosperous middle class counties in America and Prince Georges County has kicked Montgomery and Fairfax Counties to the curb.


LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 8, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

ElBigChroizo

Do you understand what the middle class is?

You listed the top counties which aren't considered middle class.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 9, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse


http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings?year=2010&week=19

"It's been that kind of season in the nation's capital: Gilbert Arenas has played in a mere 32 of 59 games, last suited up for the Wiz on Jan. 5 ... and still leads this not-so-pass-happy squad in total assists with 230."


Well, that's a problem.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 9, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

Crittenton is done with the Wizards. Putting aside all the nonsense with the gun, he's a FA coming off a season where he hasn't played a single game due (mostly) to injury. How'd things work out the last time the Wiz signed a PG under those circumstances? Crittenton had a good deal of potential last year, but it was potential that needed work to be realized. Because of everything that happened this season, he clearly hasn't been able to put in that work. Moreover, his biggest asset last season was his ability to take guys off the dribble and get into the lane. Don't need to be an ortho surgeon to figure out that a season-robbing foot injury will likely have some negative impact on that. So, not only has he not had the chance to improve on what he was, he's likely to not even be as good as he was before he was hurt, at least not for a while. And given that he was barely a rotation quality player before all this, banking on him to play a primary role would be beyond foolish. There will be PGs at least as good if not better available in the draft or the FA market.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 9, 2010 12:36 AM | Report abuse

"@Wood,

He started the season with a supposed veteran semi-contender. Therefore, players like AB and JM weren't going to get major mins regardless of performance. That's just how it works. I was on record as saying I liked AB starting instead of AJ at the time, but I also understand why you go with a quality player like AJ in that situation. Blatche was always known for being subprime in his professional habits prior to the trades and he lost any benefit of the doubt when AJ returned."

This is the post where I think I addressed your "more going on" question. It has also come to light recently that Blatche has just started taking not so important things like scouting reports, game plans and weight lifting more seriously. So, there are many things "behind the scenes" that we are not privy too. Same goes for NY. You really think that he is put in the game and misses a shot or two and gets no more playing time just bc??? He could be late for practices, dogging it in practice, late for meetings, forgetting plays that are called etc etc etc.... Things that you or I would know nothing about. NY is toast! His aw shucks laissez-faire attitude is not doing him any favors either. He is in the NBA, but he is not even close to being a professional basketball player. Perhaps he can resurrect his career in a different uniform and mature, but I doubt it.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 9, 2010 12:50 AM | Report abuse

"@Wood,

He started the season with a supposed veteran semi-contender. Therefore, players like AB and JM weren't going to get major mins regardless of performance. That's just how it works. I was on record as saying I liked AB starting instead of AJ at the time, but I also understand why you go with a quality player like AJ in that situation. Blatche was always known for being subprime in his professional habits prior to the trades and he lost any benefit of the doubt when AJ returned."

This is the post where I think I addressed your "more going on" question. It has also come to light recently that Blatche has just started taking not so important things like scouting reports, game plans and weight lifting more seriously. So, there are many things "behind the scenes" that we are not privy too. Same goes for NY. You really think that he is put in the game and misses a shot or two and gets no more playing time just bc??? He could be late for practices, dogging it in practice, late for meetings, forgetting plays that are called etc etc etc.... Things that you or I would know nothing about. NY is toast! His aw shucks laissez-faire attitude is not doing him any favors either. He is in the NBA, but he is not even close to being a professional basketball player. Perhaps he can resurrect his career in a different uniform and mature, but I doubt it.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 9, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

kal:

"......Crittenton is done with the Wizards.".......

Were you suffering under the impression that he was coming back?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 9, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

JAMES SINGLETON is the only one of our expirings that I would ink. MM only if for half his current salary.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 9, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

kal:

"......Crittenton is done with the Wizards.".......

Were you suffering under the impression that he was coming back?

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 9, 2010 7:15 AM

Glawrence007,

Kal is just stating the obvious as to why Crit will not be back, in the face of my assertions that he could be a valid answer for our guard play next year.

Even though Kal does hurl an insult at you or call you stupid or an idiot, he does always give his basketball opinion.

We come down on different sides of the isle a lot, but I can say for sure, he doesn't use personal prejudicial attacks as reasons to back up his opinions as ElBigChroizo did.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 9, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

""How many players entering the draft this year would an nba GM take over AB right now?"

Well, this is a sport blog, so we're supposed to have silly arguments. This would be one.

Blatche has the same 'advantage' that KG and Howard have over college players of comparable age: he's been in the NBA for several seasons already. He hasn't, on the other hand, been on the court as much as the first two, so he isn't as advanced.

It's pure speculation, but if he'd been playing at a decent NBA prep school like Connecticut or Maryland for three seasons, he'd be a late lottery choice. Teams would be drafting the one-and-done types first, the way they do currently. He's not a natural center so that wouldn't be working in his favor. He'd be a catch for some club looking for a big PF with skills and wasn't that concerned about athleticism.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 9, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they threw the game, but there's not a whole lot of incentive for the coach to put these guys in a position to win games at the end of games (beyond the fact that winning feels good and "we play to win the game"). No playoffs, tank games for lottery?

Posted by: arn3z | March 9, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

On the draft lottery: it's mostly about psychology. Same with the NFL. Teams want to take risks on players with talent but at the same time are concerned about getting embarrassed. Tons of misinformation and disinformation floating in the atmosphere. It's heaven for sports gossip.

A player like Brandon Jennings falls mostly because people haven't seen him. He's a bigger risk than, say, Jonny Flynn or Stephen Curry, even if he may turn out better than either. Ty Lawson falls because he's under six feet and no GM wants to get fired for taking a foolish risk. A player like Hansbrough gets drafted above his talent because of 'character' -- translation, he'll work hard and probably won't embarrass anybody.

You get unstable management scenarios like Minnesota before last year's draft, as well as teams that draft certain players because they think he's 'their sort of person'. You get teams who enter the draft with what they later discover were delusions of grandeur (there's one over at Verizon Center), and that influences their decisions.

It's an auction, and auction psychology can be perverse in the extreme.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 9, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I guess my thought is that: as a coach maybe it's worthwhile to put these guys in tough, uncomfortable situations to see what they are made of, as opposed to putting them in comfortable, game-winning situations as if they were a real playoff team.

Posted by: arn3z | March 9, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Blatche has the same 'advantage' that KG and Howard have over college players of comparable age: he's been in the NBA for several seasons already.... He'd be a catch for some club looking for a big PF with skills and wasn't that concerned about athleticism.


Posted by: Samson151 | March 9, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me that he's very athletic for a player of his size, one of the more athletic 7-footers in the league.

Posted by: rbpalmer | March 9, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"Seems to me that he's very athletic for a player of his size, one of the more athletic 7-footers in the league.Posted by: rbpalmer"

Didn't mean it as a criticism, just an observation. He doesn't IMO have much natural speed or quickness, in the vein of Javale McGee. His offensive game is built around skills -- passing, shooting, moves to the basket.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 9, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Let me turn it around. If you were EG, would you trade AB for the #3 pick in this year's draft? #1 pick? Straight up for John Wall with whomever gets him?

I would say "hell no" to any of those trade offers, which was really my point about AB.

Posted by: divi3 | March 9, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

"Were you suffering under the impression that he was coming back?"

No, but I am suffering under the impression that you're one of those people who "responds" without actually reading what you're "responding" to.

"JAMES SINGLETON is the only one of our expirings that I would ink. MM only if for half his current salary."

The Wizards could offer Miller twice what he's making now and he still wouldn't re-sign here. Why the hell would he? He's gone.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 9, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards could offer Miller twice what he's making now and he still wouldn't re-sign here. Why the hell would he? He's gone.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 9, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Who cares? Mike Miller is a role player that is a dime a dozen. His play has been a large part of the losses that a decent two would have put us over the top. He and Flip are part of the good ol boy network in the NBA that keeps teams like the Wizards perennial loser.

Posted by: NewManagement | March 9, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards could offer Miller twice what he's making now and he still wouldn't re-sign here. Why the hell would he? He's gone.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 9, 2010 10:28 AM

Because that would mean he's getting paid $18mill next season rather than the $3mill the open market dictates he's worth.

Posted by: divi3 | March 9, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Because that would mean he's getting paid $18mill next season rather than the $3mill the open market dictates he's worth.

Posted by: divi3 | March 9, 2010 10:53 AM |

Well shut yo' mouth!

Posted by: artiesliver | March 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"Let me turn it around. If you were EG, would you trade AB for the #3 pick in this year's draft? #1 pick? Straight up for John Wall with whomever gets him?I would say "hell no" to any of those trade offers, which was really my point about AB. Posted by: divi3"

This is confusing. Do you mean "would EG trade Blatche for John Wall?" or "would EG trade Blatche for the third pick in this draft class?" (not knowing who that will be, of course).

Posted by: Samson151 | March 9, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line is this. If you have the last possession, 15 seconds on the clock, down by 1, chance to win the game, your coach has got to draw up a better play than AB iso against KG in the post.

AB has been playing great, but he's still young and new to his success. KG is a perennial all star and one of the best defenders in the league. Putting AB in the post against him iso, particularly with the game on the line, is a low percentage play. At the very least they should have tried to rub KB off on a couple screens. They didn't even do that. Lame play.

This one is on Flip.

Posted by: Matte | March 9, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"Bottom line is this. If you have the last possession, 15 seconds on the clock, down by 1, chance to win the game, your coach has got to draw up a better play than AB iso against KG in the post.

AB has been playing great, but he's still young and new to his success. KG is a perennial all star and one of the best defenders in the league. Putting AB in the post against him iso, particularly with the game on the line, is a low percentage play. At the very least they should have tried to rub KB off on a couple screens. They didn't even do that. Lame play.

This one is on Flip."

Sigh....what to say. AB is the best remaining player on the team and the last I checked had schooled KG all game. And, execution on any level has not been a strong suit of this team all year much less now. The more complicated you make it the less likely it is it will even end in a shot with this group. FS is not limiting this group of players. This group of players is limiting him and his playbook.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 9, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Will one of Flip Saunders SEVEN assistant coaches please stand up and tell Flip to his face he ought to be careful about his comments on Blatche, when he very clearly shows favoritism to his boys Miller and Foye?
Will one of these SEVEN assistant coaches please tell Flip Saunders that Blatche and McGee shut down Garnett for 90% of the game?

Posted by: rickgonz | March 9, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

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