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Roy tops Foye again

Trail Blazers 76, Wizards 74

Randy Foye didn't trade himself for Brandon Roy, but considering how their careers have turned out, that has to be a heavy burden for Foye to bear for the rest of his career. On the night of the 2006 NBA draft, then-Minnesota Timberwolves general manager Kevin McHale wanted Foye, but he also knew how badly Portland wanted Roy. So he selected Roy and decided to trade him to Portland to get the player he wanted all along - and a little cash on the side.

You already know how that has turned out. Roy is a three-time all-star who has almost single-handedly revitalized basketball enthusiasm in the Pacific Northwest, while Foye is on his second team and currently subjected to backing up a player who had to work his way back into the league on a couple of 10-day contracts.

But Foye appeared like he was ready to finally going to come out on top against Roy for at least one night. He scored seven consecutive points for the Wizards in the fourth period, making three straight crowd-silencing jumpers after starting the game 1-for-8. "If you know my history, how I usually play, early on, I dish the ball and get guys shots. And in the third and fourth, I take the big shots," Foye said.

Foye helped the Wizards come back from a 10-point fourth-quarter deficit to take a 74-72 lead with 61 seconds remaining. "He came in and got aggressive," Coach Flip Saunders said. "He started going north-south with the ball instead of east-west. He made some big shots and got them back on their heels. Put us in a great situation."

But the Wizards couldn't close it out. Roy missed a three-pointer with 51.8 seconds remaining, but LaMarcus Aldridge grabbed the offensive rebound and went to the free throw line after Al Thornton picked up sixth foul. Aldridge tied the game at 74, and after Andray Blatche missed a layup with 20.9 seconds remaining, the Blazers put the ball in the hands of their superstar.

Roy pumped to get Gee in the air, and as fate would have it, Foye came leaping toward him as Roy knocked down the game-winning jumper with nine-tenths of a second remaining.

"I was just thinking, 'Finally,' " said Roy, who cracked a smile after the shot went in. "I was just laughing, you know, finally, I made a shot. Maybe in the past, I would've shied away from it. Tonight, I kept telling myself, you're going to make one. It was the one to help us win an important game for us."

Blazers Coach Nate McMillan said he had no hesitation about going with Roy, even though he had missed his previous 14 shots with Thornton and Alonzo Gee playing stifling defense. "No. That's your guy who you're going to live with and is very capable of making that shot and plays in that situation a lot. We wanted to make sure we got the last shot on that."

In the locker room afterward, several Wizards players contended that Roy traveled on the play. Singleton said he thought Roy took steps after establishing a different pivot. Foye said he thought Roy "shuffled his feet." But if the referee didn't call it, then the Wizards had to deal with the consequences.

And Foye had to deal with being showed up by Roy again. "It was kind of weird, us going back and forth," Foye said.

This wasn't the first time Roy came out ahead in a duel with Foye. When Minnesota and Portland met in a game last March, Roy had made the decisive points as the Trail Blazers defeated the Timberwolves 95-93. The loss was made worse when Foye's potential game-winning three-pointer hit the back of the rim. Foye didn't have the opportunity to hit attempt a game-winning shot or a game-tying shot as Marcus Camby batted away Shaun Livingston's inbounds pass to Blatche as time expired.

Earlier this season - I think it was after the Wizards beat Portland in January - Foye talked to me about how funny it is that he played the Trail Blazers without having to answer a question about Roy (who missed that game with an injury). Foye got it all the time in Minnesota, and the comparisons wore on him.

He couldn't escape it on Friday, flashing a grin the moment Roy's name came up. "I wouldn't change seats with him," Foye said. "I know he's had a lot of success, but I feel, if I keep playing the way I'm playing, everything is going to be alright for me. He's an unbelievable player. Me and him are friends. Take nothing away from him. We both get the job done."

But Roy leaves with the upper hand yet again.

By Michael Lee  |  March 20, 2010; 3:07 AM ET
 
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"If you know my history, how I usually play, early on, I dish the ball and get guys shots. And in the third and fourth, I take the big shots," Foye said.

haha, Foye thinks he's good.

Posted by: amalg | March 20, 2010 5:05 AM | Report abuse

he can be good. we traded a lot to get him (sunk cost) but its not like we have a loaded team. We could use him if he develops. Playing worse now might mean we can sign him for less later and he may work harder in the offseason. Look what happened to Blatche. Hopefully JaVale will do the same. It takes time for most players to understand what they need to do to succeed. I'll still give Foye another year to prove my faith is misplaced. JaVale gets two years.

Posted by: jaguar2490 | March 20, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse


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Posted by: louiserose20 | March 20, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

It's fine for the WIZARDS to lose the way they are. At least they go down battling. More than I can say for the old club. Besides every loss gets us closer to the three pick in the lottery and the NBA record for consecutive losses.

Posted by: glawrence007 | March 20, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

So he selected Roy and decided to trade him to Portland to get the player he wanted all along - and a little cash on the side.

That's the same reason the Wizards made the trade so they could save some money too?

Being cheap gets you into the lottery!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 20, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I agree with jaguar above, Foye is a good player. Remember, he's been asked to be a pg, not his natural position. Give him another year and I'm sure it'll go well.

Foye and Gee's defense of Roy was indeed stifling, and to speak the truth, Roy was shut down on that last shot. He DID have to travel to make it. Chenier and Buckhantz called it immediately on the replay. With closeups it was unambiguous. The refs missed the call.

Strange to say in the midst of a 10-game losing streak that is not over, but the Wiz's prospects for next year look good. Lots of cash to acquire some good pieces, draft picks in a strong year, Arenas back (so it looks), Blatche and McGee, inexpensive "discoveries" SL and Gee; Thornton, Foye, and a new owner (presumably Ted). I go back and forth on Flip. If he's dedicated to winning here, then count me in. Unlike a lot of posters, I continue to think well of EG. I think he'll do fine, presumably conferring with Flip, in putting together a good team with the considerable assets available to him.

Posted by: 7snider7 | March 20, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

At least they battled and put in effort. Not what we saw before the trades.
I can't see where more than 2 or 3 wins are gonna come from in the remaining games.
Just hope we don't get Kwamied in the draft. We're due for a couple of breaks.
I think the only leftovers from this season will be Gil, Blatch & Javale.
Next year - a new owner & new team name and new uniforms.

Posted by: VBFan | March 20, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Come on, Mike. If you watch the replay, it's pretty obvious that Roy did a LeTravel move, shifting both his feet after the pump fake to get around the second defender on that last shot. If Alonzo Gee did that, he'd have gotten whistled.

Speaking of Gee, when can Ernie sign him for next year? That guy is like DeJuan Blair under the boards, except that he can jump.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | March 20, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Don't know why Foye didn't even get to touch the ball in the last minute after he made 3 consective FGs and forced Portland to call timeout. In the end, it wasn't what Portland did to stop him, it was the Wizards.

Posted by: sagaliba | March 20, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

The Wiz played arguably their second best game of the season (see first game at Dallas) last night. Defensive rotations were the best I've seen from this team in a loooong time. Even in a loss, I was very impressed with the way they played. They couldn't put the ball in the ocean last night (bad shooting does not necessarily equate to bad play), but they hung tough and didn't let the rest of their play suffer as a result. Coming back from a 10-point fourth quarter deficit on the road against a playoff contender that plays great defense speaks volumes. I hope the loss didn't deflate them.

On the final missed call by the refs, it was a meaningless game and they probably just wanted to go home. They were probably praying that last shot by Roy would go in. Not a big deal given the circumstances.

Grunfeld doing an outstanding job right now, regardless of what people think. Still don't like Flip's rotations. You've GOT to let young players play through their mistakes. If it's experience they need, they won't get it being banished to the bench for bad play.

Posted by: bpybay | March 20, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Of course, Roy did a leTravel; everyone knows it, including Roy. Blatche was fouled before the block on his shot attempt as well; everyone knows that, too -- except, of course, Mike Lee. His anti-Wizards bias is so strong, he can't or won't report objectively.

BTW, Mike, it's "heels;" back on your "heels" --not heals. Have you considered an editor for your work?

Posted by: Fief1 | March 20, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Before the Wiz' run it was shaping up as a classic NBA home court win: the home team has fewer FGs but a big edge in FT attempts (31 to 18). I liked that last run, and the overall play of Foye and Miller, two vets who don't get a lot of credit for what they do right because people focus on what they aren't doing for the team.

Overall, a good performance. Brandon Roy misses 14 but hits the big one. That's the NBA for ya.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 20, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I agree 100% with Fief1. Mike, you write as though you are the administrator of the blog for whichever team the Wizards play. Perhaps it is in an effort to appear unbiased, but your stance is way over the edge. The Wizards are a team of very young guys who are playing the most exciting basketball that I have seen from a Wizards team in many years. Get on the bandwagon before it runs over you.

Posted by: getabigboyoffense | March 20, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

would have liked to see Mcgee on the floor late, just for game experience sake. he was playing ok

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

[i]would have liked to see Mcgee on the floor late, just for game experience sake. he was playing ok[/i]

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely. 2010 fate already sealed. JaVale had a very solid third quarter. He definitely should have been in there at the end. Flip should be putting his core players in game situations that maximize their learning experience and potential. At this point, it's not about winning. It's about player development.

It takes a certain kind of mentality to coach a very young team. An attribute that both Flip and EJ lacks (and that is a prerequisite to successfully coaching a young team) is patience. I think he's got the rest. You have to be part coach, part psychologist, to be successful with young players. I believe he's on the verge of destroying the confidence of a couple of his young players with his quick hook. It is the responsibility of the coaching staff to develop young players. A Phil Jackson/Larry Brown type would be perfect for this team.

For example, Nick Young is the type of player that gets down on himself pretty quickly. Well, if HE gets down on himself, and if his COACH gets down on him, where is his confidence going to come from? Flip has got to leave him in the game and let him take his lumps. Let him go 0-12. Don't take him out after a few bad plays. Let him learn to make his corrections on the fly. With his upside, DEVELOP HIM! DON'T DESTROY HIM!

Posted by: bpybay | March 20, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"For example, Nick Young is the type of player that gets down on himself pretty quickly. Well, if HE gets down on himself, and if his COACH gets down on him, where is his confidence going to come from? Flip has got to leave him in the game and let him take his lumps. Let him go 0-12. Don't take him out after a few bad plays. Let him learn to make his corrections on the fly. With his upside, DEVELOP HIM! DON'T DESTROY HIM! Posted by: bpybay"

I've watched Nick for a couple years now and I don't think his problem is lack of confidence. Overconfidence, maybe.

But if you want an NBA coach to stand by while his player goes one for twelve, then that player had better be Brandon Roy.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 20, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young is not getting developed b/c he is not in the Wiz future plans.

I'm Vicc and I approve this.

Posted by: Vicc | March 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"But if you want an NBA coach to stand by while his player goes one for twelve, then that player had better be Brandon Roy."

Or Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony or Dwayne Wade or Kevin Durant.


"Flip has got to leave him in the game and let him take his lumps. Let him go 0-12. Don't take him out after a few bad plays. Let him learn to make his corrections on the fly."

Except that he's never shown the slightest inclination or facility for making corrections, on the fly or otherwise. His only response to a poor shooting night is to keep taking the same shots he was missing in the first place. When he's off, it's not just him that's "taking lumps" it's the whole team.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

yeah, the decision has been made on NY. If he's lucky, he'll somehow end up in n'awlins with tim floyd

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"yeah, the decision has been made on NY."

Y'know, I'm not sure about that. Just as I'm not at all sure Flip will be the coach and Ernie the GM and the Pollins the owners when next season rolls around.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 20, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Flip not being the coach, given what it costs to fire him and his resume, would mean management views his performance here even worse than I do. That would surprise me!

NY would have the same success as JR Smith if given the consistent minutes, the question is if a player like that does more harm or good on the balance.

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

During their early together run in Denver, George Karl did not hesitate to yank J.R. Smith from games when he was jackin' 'em up and clanking. He rarely just left him on he floor to "take his lumps." Eventually, Smith got the message and realized that if was going to get extended P.T. and be an asset to his team, he needed to do more than just jack up long jumpers with half the shot clock left. As a result he became a more complete player, earned the coach's trust and got more P.T. Now when he's having an off shooting night, Karl gives him more rope because he knows that even if his shot's not falling, Smith can find other ways to help the team.

Coming up on the end of his 3rd season, Nick Young has yet to advance beyond the "jack up long jumpers with half the shot clock left" phase and has shown precious few signs of doing so.

"yeah, the decision has been made on NY. If he's lucky, he'll somehow end up in n'awlins with tim floyd"

History suggests that landing on an NBA team coached by Tim Floyd does not a sign of success.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Make that "is not a sign of success."

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

As to this:

"That's the same reason the Wizards made the trade [for Foye and Miller] so they could save some money too?"

That's not at all true. In fact, it was an investment which put them into the luxury tax and cost them double. If you HAVE to insist on being crazy-negative, at least use the truth. (Unlike the guy who KEEPS insisting that Ernie should have drafted Evans, when Ernie never actually had that opportunity.)

----
As to:

"If he's lucky, he'll somehow end up in n'awlins with tim floyd"

I just assumed that was a joke, right? I mean, Floyd has proven himself to be a horrible coach, right? Plus, isn't Jeff Bower the coach there? Or whoever the GM is - because I thought they fired Scott and replaced him with the GM, like in NJ.

Posted by: Urnesto | March 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

JR Smith is a gunner and that's it. i dunno if he's the complete player Kal says he is and furthermore; his improvements in the other facets of the game over the course of his career have been nominal. He's avging 1 more reb and asst than he did his rookie year. the only area with a considerable increase statistically is pts. even then he's hovered around the same production for the past 4 yrs in denver averaging about 25 mins per game. NY has only avg'd over 20 mins 1 season of his three. Surprisingly, he has better numbers that season than any of his other seasons played.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Flip not being the coach, given what it costs to fire him and his resume, would mean management views his performance here even worse than I do."

Nah, just that somebody else owned the club and wanted a new guy.

Here's how I see it: Wiz management (including the owner and GM) overrated the club based on performance a couple seasons old. They were wrong. Once that became clear, the GM started correcting the mistake by divesting contracts. In the rush, they didn't get much in return. They're now banking on the lottery, not only this season but next, and probably the next after that.

In the middle of this has been Flip Saunders, who made none of these mistakes and was handed the clubhouse culture that resulted in the Arenas incident. Finding himself with a team of role players and kids, he's done a respectable job of getting them to play hard in adverse circumstances.

He's probably hoping some GM around the league notices and finds him a real job at some point in the future.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 20, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

About leaving a guy in when he misses shot after shot: there are two ways a player can earn that status. First is to be so good that the coach figures that any moment now you'll sink five in a row. The second is to be on a team that's so desperately bad that the coach can't think of any other option.

Guess Saunders doesn't think the Wiz are that bad yet.

Otherwise, NBA coaches have exactly one lever they can press, and that's the bench. The whole idea is that you earn your playing time. You want more, play better. Sometimes that holds a player back, as it did with Blatche, but that's the way it is in the NBA.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 20, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

JR Smith is absolutely just a gunner still. The difference is he's a gunner that plays with energy, fire, and confidence. A rah rah gunner that can come in and not only make buckets, but immediately fire up his team when he is on and even not so on. He also has a habit of hitting big shots. NY has fired up his team only a handful of times in his 3 year career and that is bc he has come in and made like 5/6 shots in a row and not as a result of his brimming over confidence, exuberance, or force of personality. NY is more a debbie downer kind of player. Plus, JR tends to play with more energy on defense as well and can pass. NY really just isn't that good and is given way too much credit in here. The cry for more mins for him is pathetic. If he can't get mins even now, that tells me all I need to know. His career at least here is in trouble.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 20, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

If he can't get mins even now, that tells me all I need to know. His career at least here is in trouble.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 20, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse
folks said this about Ab last year.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | March 20, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

FOR all of you who can't wait for nick to leave, you will see. HIS agent will get him on a team with a real coach,and nick will floush, to the haters don't say i knew it, all he needed was chance.

Posted by: maejude | March 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

@wood,

No, not true. AB has always shown an immense level of natural talent for a BIG. NY's are a dime a dozen in the NBA. And, if you don't bring hustle, leadership, or something to the table you are in trouble. I'm already more impressed with Gee than I've ever been with NY.

@maejude,

Please don't make me laugh! Ridiculous. You have no sense of talent do you or anything involving intangibles. The only team NY should be trying to get to is Golden State. Have fun!

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 20, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

fyi to those who may not know it, but Tim Floyd was NYs college coach, and just this year NY said they still speak often and that Floyd is his motivator when everyone is down on him here (to paraphrase).

another reason Flip doesnt like him, he told the media he goes to his college coach for motivation.

as to JR Smith, he's the exact player NY is other than that NY has shown the ability to defer to other players when he was on the floor with the alleged Big3...whereas Smith is purely bombs away. 1-12 the other night

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

i dont think NY is all that, but he's certainly better than the PT he gets. On a team that cant score, he gets buckets. No way Ross should have been getting all those minutes but whatever- doesnt really matter

Posted by: divi3 | March 20, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

TIM FLOYD is much better than what we have now.

Posted by: maejude | March 20, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I am just wondering what or who was it you didn't like before nick got here,OH MY BAG[BLATCHE].

Posted by: maejude | March 20, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

the reason no one liked blatche was because he used to be just inconsistent as nick young but blatche got to stick around untill he flourished because:
a player with his size and assets come one in a million
he had amazing summer leagues
his teammates kept sayin he dominated practice
he came straight from high school, and it was obvious he wouldnt be very productive his first couple of years

NY has pretty terrible summer leagues, no one on the team talks about his playin or development, and most of all, he doesnt know how to play. if he had any bball IQ he would realize he can get to the basket anytime he wants because of his length and athleticism, but he seems to prefer contested jumpers.

BTW: Mike y are u hatin on the wiz so much? all ur articles are poorly written stories of how a bad team failed to do its job on D and u never cite any upside except when its on the opposing team.

Posted by: mcfatfat | March 20, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

"JR Smith is a gunner and that's it. i dunno if he's the complete player Kal says he is"

Nice try.

I didn't say he was a complete player, I said he was a more complete player now than he was when he first got to Denver. And that is undeniably true. And, as usual, a rote recitation of basic elementary stats misses many obvious points. To wit: Smith has improved notably as a defensive player (meaning that he actually plays some now). And if you're going to rely on stats, at least make a token effort to use stats that actually relate to what I said, which is that Smith has developed into a player who has found a way to contribute when his jumper wasn't falling. Meaning he no longer relies as much on long jumpers for his offense (the percentage of his total FG attempts taken from behind the 3 pt line has dropped every season he's been in Denver) , making a much more concerted effort to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim where his athleticism allows him to finish and/or draw fouls (his FT attempts per game have increased almost every season in Denver, even in a season where his actual MPG played went down from the previous).

Does Young have the raw ability to make similar adjustments? Absolutely. Has he shown any meaningful inclination towards doing so? Nope.

"folks said this about Ab last year."

And the "folks" who said that were idiots, because Blatche played in every game for which he was available last season (missing 11 due to injury), started in more than half the games he played, and averaged then-career highs in points, rebounds, and MPG. And even if it were true, it would just mean that all Young has to do is wait patiently for every other SG on the roster to get traded and then he'll be king of the mountain just like Blatche.

"FOR all of you who can't wait for nick to leave, you will see. HIS agent will get him on a team with a real coach,and nick will floush, to the haters don't say i knew it, all he needed was chance."

If he gets traded, his agent won't he any say in where he goes because (A) Young's trade value is marginal at best which means that (B) Young and his agent will have zero leverage.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

"another reason Flip doesnt like him, he told the media he goes to his college coach for motivation."

How's that been working out for Nicky-boy?

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

"TIM FLOYD is much better than what we have now."

Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing ever written here. Tim Floyd has the 2nd worst winning percentage of any coach in NBA history (with at least 200 games coached).

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 20, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

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