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A Wizards win and a near triple-double

Morning brew

The Wizards ended their nine-game home losing streak yesterday against the New Jersey Nets, 109-99. Andray Blatche (20 points, 13 assists, 9 rebounds ) just missed a triple-double. Here is video of Blatche's reaction to not achieving that goal (courtesy of the D.C. Sports Bog and Truth About It). Afterward, Cartier Martin spoke about the game.

Truth About It's Kyle Weidie has more on Blatche's near miss.

With this win, the Wizards also finally come through in fourth quarter.

Around the League ...

There were eight games yesterday. Highlights are below, thanks to NBA.com. There are no games today because of tonight's NCAA championship game. When you consider that title game plus McNabb being traded to the Redskins, Tiger's news conference and baseball's opening day -- has there been a busier sports day in recent memory?

By Alexa Steele  |  April 5, 2010; 11:42 AM ET
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Posted by: glawrence007 | April 5, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

So besides RAND MO from the HAWKS what's anybody else's take on our need for free agents? We probably are going to have four FA's with MORRIS of the HAWKS or someone like him being the #5.

Playing EG or whomever, I would roll with McGEE, MORRIS, and a number two pick, maybe JERMAINE JORDAN from TULSA at the five.(three players)

We should get another FA four, a three, and a one.

Four could be JOE SMITH or someone of his caliber because we have 'DRAY, SINGLETON, and probably someone like FAVORS as a first pick. (four players)

Three is thin with THORNTON and our CAVS pick, maybe DA'SEAN BUTLER who surely will fall in the draft with the knee injury he has sustained against DUKE, or the SERBIAN SF/SG/PG combo player NEMANJA BJELICA 6'10" 215. A FA will be needed if HOWARD is not offered or he doesn't make it back. He should not be offered IMHO. But I really don't have a feel for who might be available in FA except AL HARRINGTON who can combo at the three/four. (three players)

The two position already has ARENAS, FOYE, ROSS(player option), and YOUNG. I would play ARENAS and FOYE at their natural #2 positions and only use them at the one in role match-ups, and in the event of injury. I would cut ROSS and take the hit, if he exercises his option. (three players)

The one should be a FA front-line starter with LIVINGSTON as back-up, and ARENAS and FOYE available in situations from their # 2 position. (two players)

#'s three and one are where the club should spend money this summer. I said FISHER of the LAKERS last night, but I really don't follow many players around the league. No question we won't get a great one in this draft because we're winning too many games to be in the top three. We'll be lucky to pick fourth which would be FAVORS I'm guessing.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 5, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Teddy L., lets get these papers signed so we can have some fresh material to talk about.

I'm gonna miss watching the Wiz, but lets close the door on this season. Wonder if the last game is a home game? Everyone could show up in suits and the game program could be a funeral program so we can put this horrid season to rest!

Posted by: millineumman | April 5, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Cartier Martin is just desperately doing what it takes to get a contract next year. CM needs every possible stat to show his effectiveness on a team and not go back to the D-league. If I was Blatche I would keep dishing CM assists and praise him, "Cartier Martin is a great player and he fights for rebounds" If blatche isn't generous enough to give CM one stat to a D-league player than its final that blatche is not the type of player that makes other people better.

Posted by: jefferu | April 5, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Derek Fisher and Al Harrington would be terrible signings. Fisher is old and in a the midst of a season-long decline. Blatche is basically Harrington v2.0. Having them both on the same team would make little sense, esp. given how much it would cost to sign Harrington.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Don't let Al Harrington anywhere near this team. I can't stand his game. He's one of those guys that get numbers but doesn't improve the team one bit.

Posted by: millineumman | April 5, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Don't let Al Harrington anywhere near this team. I can't stand his game. He's one of those guys that get numbers but doesn't improve the team one bit.

Posted by: millineumman | April 5, 2010 3:10 PM

Antawn Jamison v2.0.

Posted by: gimmedat | April 5, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Hi people. It is good to talk about next season since we have said every thing about this season.
We have a starting PG(arenas) and
PF( blache).Trade NY and AlT for a dependable SF, draft either a PF or SG(evans turner), look for free agency on a starting center or SG,sign SL and MM(for MY dream wizard team next year should be
1/PG Arenas, SL, draft
2/ SG draft or sign free agent,MM and/or Jash howard
3/ SF trade or Ny,MM and ALT
4/PF AB, draft or Free agent and singlton
5/Free agent for starting,JM and draft.
If we have SF for trade ,draft Evans,sign a starting center and MM, this team win 45 games with a potential improvment to be a contender for 2011-2012 season.

Posted by: gtefferra | April 5, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Question about Grieves as I've not watched that much of him. I'm assuming he's not nearly as athletic as Manu was/is?

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

as good as Manu if not better with the rock. Nowhere close to as quick or explosive as vintage Ginobleee

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"as good as Manu if not better with the rock. "

Uh . . . no. Not even. Comparing Vasquez to Ginobili in any way is only slight less over the edge than calling Mike Miller the next Larry Bird. And you can't arbitrarily separate quickness and athleticism from ballhandling. Ginobili's ability to separate himself from defenders with speed and use his agility to maneuver his way through defenses, traps, and double teams is both abetted by and and a byproduct of his ability to handle/control the ball while cutting, changing directions, and moving at full-tilt speed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Certainly cut from the same cloth as Manu....I would be in favor of using a 2nd round pick to keep him local. Talented scorer, great length on defense and plays bigger when it counts.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | April 5, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I think lilhollywood's comparison is just. Greivis is great with ball and even better than Manu at passing. He's fun to watch on the fast break and I would love to see him play with some good finishers.

Manu has sneaky hops though and that helps him alot. He doesn't seem to be a high riser but has banged on quite a few in traffic.

One thing that concerns me about Greivis is that slow set shot. Defenses will no doubt be more tight in the pros and besides that runner in the lane, he does not create shots while defended. I am a strong believer that once the threat of scoring is not there, a pg's passing effectiveness will also decline.

Posted by: millineumman | April 5, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

as good as Manu if not better with the rock. "

Uh . . . no. Not even. Comparing Vasquez to Ginobili in any way is only slight less over the edge than calling Mike Miller the next Larry Bird. And you can't arbitrarily separate quickness and athleticism from ballhandling. Ginobili's ability to separate himself from defenders with speed and use his agility to maneuver his way through defenses, traps, and double teams is both abetted by and and a byproduct of his ability to handle/control the ball while cutting, changing directions, and moving at full-tilt speed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse
while greivis was hardly ever the quickest guard on the floor in terms of footspeed, he was able to get to spots on the floor by using his size and dribbling ablility. I don't know that quickness of foot has as much to do with handling the ball as you say it does. GV is able to handle the ball extremely well on the break at top speed or navigating through the halfcourt, without much if any difficulty. You also rarely saw GV get ripped while dribbling.

But my comment, as it was written, gave Manu the advantage in quickness and explosiveness, but GV an edge in overall ballhandling. Of course being quicker and more explosive gives a player the ability to do more things and go more places with the ball, but that doesn't always make them a better ballhandler. DWade can get places on the floor CP3 can't because of his quickness and explosiveness but who's the better ball handler? Not the greatest example, but i think that ball handling can be separated from quickness.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"as good as Manu if not better with the rock. "

Uh . . . no. Not even. Comparing Vasquez to Ginobili in any way is only slight less over the edge than calling Mike Miller the next Larry Bird. And you can't arbitrarily separate quickness and athleticism from ballhandling. Ginobili's ability to separate himself from defenders with speed and use his agility to maneuver his way through defenses, traps, and double teams is both abetted by and and a byproduct of his ability to handle/control the ball while cutting, changing directions, and moving at full-tilt speed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 3:38 P


Exactly Kal!

I know everyone around these parts appreciates Vasquez for what he has accomplished at MD but plese don't make comparisons between he and Manu.

I have serious questions about Vasquez's ability to play at the next level as I feel he doesn't have the quickness at the
point position, but he does have good height and if he improves his shooting ability may make it as shooting guard. Hope he proves me wrong.

Posted by: zxhoya | April 5, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Vasquez needs to have the ball in his hands to be effective and he wont get that at the next level. I just don't see it.

Posted by: zxhoya | April 5, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I'd take a long look at Vasquez if i'm the Wizard's braintrust and no i'd wouldn't compare him to Ginobli but saying he's a poor's man version of Manu would not be stretch, look the kid took a Maryland team not even considered a title threat in every pre-season ACC poll and had them tied with Duke at the end of the regular season for first place and had them within 5 seconds of the sweet 16 and who knows from there. Grevis still has a chip on his shoulder,i'm gonna say this right now he will have an excellent career in the NBA he has court savvy and the benefit of four years and he's hungry, i know one thing i'd take him and with the Wiz having two first rounder's he might not be my first but he'd sure be my second.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 5, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Of course being quicker and more explosive gives a player the ability to do more things and go more places with the ball, but that doesn't always make them a better ballhandler."

True. But I wasn't talking about "always." I was talking specifically about Ginobili and Vasquez.

"Not the greatest example, but I think that ball handling can be separated from quickness."

Not with regard to the specific comparison under consideration. For all of his quickness and herky-jerky maneuvering, Ginibili rarely if ever appears to be out of control on the court. He frequently barrels into the lane like a freight train but seems to avoid charges and turnovers in traffic because no matter how fast he moves or how sharply he changes angles, he always has both his body and the ball under total control. That speaks to his superior ballhandling, because without it he'd be leaving the ball behind a lot more than he does. Vasquez, by contrast, has a pronounced tendency to play out of control (a habit amplified by the fact that he tends to be such a demonstrably emotional player). He has a habit of turning the ball over in traffic and committing offensive fouls from running full tilt into the lane with nowhere to go. Now part of this is, as you say, a result of his lesser physical ability than Ginobili. But, at the same time, if he's going to play at that speed then he needs to also be under control at that speed, both of himself and the ball. Too often he's not.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"I'd take a long look at Vasquez if i'm the Wizard's braintrust and no i'd wouldn't compare him to Ginobli but saying he's a poor's man version of Manu would not be stretch,"

Putting aside the fact that calling him "a poor's man version of Manu " is, in fact, comparing him to Ginobili . . . other than a Latin American heritage, they really have little in common as players.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Grevis will likely play closer to Miller in the NBA than Ginobili. Not nearly as athletic as Manu. Not as good a shooter as Miller, but tougher certainly. Likely a better defender, but that will partly depend on how overmatched he is athletically. The Wiz should definitely take a look at him, though.

I wouldn't touch Al Harrington with a ten foot pole. He is, however, a player that EG has tried to acquire in the past.

I wouldn't go for Boozer, because, based on how he left Cleveland, I have questions about his character in terms of being part of a team. That kind of physical toughness though is something these Wiz could use.

Fisher is a nice commodity for playoff teams because of his experience and willingness to play his role (much like 'Big Shot Bob' Robert Horry), but he's not what the Wiz need right now. It would be nice to have his experience, but they'd be better off developing a younger player.

I don't recall having seen Randolph Morris play, but his playercard makes him seem just like another big stiff.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"Not as good a shooter as Miller, but tougher certainly. "

Miller may not be a demonstrably physical player, but given the number of times this season he's put his body in harm's way to make a play, gotten thrown to the floor with no call and dragged himself up, and stepped onto the floor and tried to play with only one good arm and/or leg, I don't think his toughness is really in question.

If Vasquez is the best player on the board when they Wiz pick in the second round, take him. But I wouldn't give him undue consideration because of his local ties. The team's two biggest needs going forward are a big physical inside presence and a quick, athletic, basket-attacking wing player. Vasquez doesn't fill either bill.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Not saying Miller's soft, and he certainly has played through injuries, I'd just expect Grevis to have a tougher demeanor / style of play, more willing to be more physical on the defensive end, etc. In part because I think he's going to have to on the D end. He will likely only have size and attitude going for him.

If he's willing to take on the role, I could see him being on of those kinds of defenders who just bugs the heck out of the other guy.

I wouldn't think he would be a primary ball handler in the pros, but he could definitely be someone who helps distribute on the offensive end, like Miller does, though I would think a little bit better than Miller. Given his size and nature, he will likely also hit the glass like Miller does.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Miller used to be a very good player, now he kinda sucks, but if there's belief that GV compares favorably to him then the Wiz should get him.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

But I wouldn't give him undue consideration because of his local ties.
Posted by: kalo_rama

I might give him just a bit of undue consideration in the second round because of his local ties. Especially in DC, because of his local ties, he has the capacity to bring more fans to the VC, and maybe a different demographic. I have no idea what their demo breakdown is now.

If he's the 15th best player on the board in the second round, I wouldn't bump him up, but if he's the 5th I definitely would. If he's the 5-10 range, I'd strongly consider it. Unless there's someone ahead of him when they're picking in the second round that they think is potentially a really good player, I think I make the reach.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

He has a habit of turning the ball over in traffic and committing offensive fouls from running full tilt into the lane with nowhere to go. Now part of this is, as you say, a result of his lesser physical ability than Ginobili. But, at the same time, if he's going to play at that speed then he needs to also be under control at that speed, both of himself and the ball. Too often he's not.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

he ususally gets turnover off the pass rather than the bounce, but he does get a TO now and again. As for the charges, that's the "great equalizer" for college hoop. You don't have to be fast,tall,qhick or a great jumper to get a charge called against an opposing player. All you have to do is be standing still anywhere on the court. The "No-Charge"circle could help him in that respect. Looking OC and being OC are different also. I know i had to look the other way on a coupla those drives down the stretch in the MSU tourney game, but he was in complete control just like he took over in the Duke game. Because he plays with emotion and has a really "high motor" doesn't mean he plays the game out of control. He's a player that i wouldn't have considered NBA caliber 2 yrs ago. But after watching him carry the terps on his back the past two seasons, i see him as a leader and a real floor general.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Miller used to be a very good player, now he kinda sucks, but if there's belief that GV compares favorably to him then the Wiz should get him.

Posted by: divi3

A lot of things compare, but I don't think GV is as quick as Miller was coming out of Florida

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"Not as good a shooter as Miller, but tougher certainly. "

Miller may not be a demonstrably physical player, but given the number of times this season he's put his body in harm's way to make a play, gotten thrown to the floor with no call and dragged himself up, and stepped onto the floor and tried to play with only one good arm and/or leg, I don't think his toughness is really in question.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

i don't know if MM's toughness was questioned. I think GV was just given credit for being tougher than a player whom we all know is tough,MM.

BTW playing through bumps and bruises in a contract year hardly denotes toughness.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

A lot of things compare, but I don't think GV is as quick as Miller was coming out of Florida


Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
mike was super funky leavin UF, but he was still more of a set shooter than off the dribble kinda guy, that being said i'd hope GV has the edge over MM back then.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

BTW playing through bumps and bruises in a contract year hardly denotes toughness.

Posted by: lilhollywood10

No, but playing through sprained shoulders and ankles on a 20 win team does speak to a certain toughness. At the very least, he's a gamer.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

BTW playing through bumps and bruises in a contract year hardly denotes toughness.

Posted by: lilhollywood10

No, but playing through sprained shoulders and ankles on a 20 win team does speak to a certain toughness. At the very least, he's a gamer.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

no doubt a gamer

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

how many PGs coming out this yr are ranked better than GV or play better than GV? just a question

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"BTW playing through bumps and bruises in a contract year hardly denotes toughness."

A separated shoulder is far from a "bump" and a partially torn calf muscle is a helluva lot more than a "bruise" and Miller attempted to play with both. more than attempted, actually. He did play with both.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

No, but playing through sprained shoulders and ankles on a 20 win team does speak to a certain toughness. At the very least, he's a gamer.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

it also speaks to a contractual obligation. Not to mention a guaranteed starting spot, and an ongoing multimillion dollar audition. He's not suffering through a 20 win season, he's participating. He's as much part of the problem as everyone else. Why is MM held at such high regard that he's thought of as being tough for collecting 8 mil this yr i mean i know he's stepping up his production to make up for he loss of BTH (10pts 6 rebs) but i don't know that MM's a toughguy which i think was what the earlier post refering to Gv was about. GV isn't just a tough guy or a guy who's tough. He's a toughguy, a guy who'll kick your @$$ or die trying. Mm might die trying, but you know he won't shoot.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

considering he's now missed more layups than i've ever seen from a pro (including charles smith), maybe he needs to know when to say when.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

The best answer is... a bunch. At least 6 or so. It's complicated because a lot of ratings put him at the SG.

Basically, for sure, by rankings right now....

Wall
Eric Bledsoe
Willie Warren
Armon Johnson
Malcolm Lee
Kalin Lucas (depending on injury concerns)
Sherron Collins
Iman Shumpert
Matt Bouldin

Those will likely all shuffle once we get into the workout stuff, some will drop, some others may jump up.

Most predictions have Greivis mid-second to undrafted.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Lil, Miller has been banged up enough that he could easily have sat out more than he has this season. It's true he's playing for a contract, probably his last real one, but I think some of it is that he just a gamer.

Miller is definitely the play-through-injury kind of tough, and definitely is not the get-in-your-face kind of tough, no question.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

i'm not sure if the get in your face tough will help or hinder GV initially in the nba.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

A separated shoulder is far from a "bump" and a partially torn calf muscle is a helluva lot more than a "bruise" and Miller attempted to play with both. more than attempted, actually. He did play with both.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Is the shoulder still separated?That happened the first what, 3 weeks of the season?
And the stained calf,turned torn calf muscle, is it sill torn or was that not why he missed a month and a half of hoop (being so tough) between Nov and Jan. Because you'd be absolutely right if he played any games without treatment after these injuries were diagnosed a such. But being that you are refering to when he initially got the injuries and tried to play through the injury (no doubt with the aid of adrenaline), no i don't see him as any tougher, having gotten hurt, sat out, gotten better and returned to the team.

you know this toughguy has only played a lil more than half the games this season.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Miller is definitely the play-through-injury kind of tough, and definitely is not the get-in-your-face kind of tough, no question."

Personally, I think the "get in you face kind of tough" is often overrated. A lot of guys who make a show out of being tough are more about the show than the actual toughness. I'll take a guy who leaves it all on the floor with little complaint or fanfare over a guy who struts and flexes thinks he should get a standing ovation every time he makes a play.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Gus Johnson finally gets elected to the Hall of Fame and not word 1 in the Post. I guess I shouldn't be surprised...

Posted by: truke | April 5, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

i'm not sure if the get in your face tough will help or hinder GV initially in the nba.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

his quickness will be his biggest obstacle regardless. i just think his chip on the shoulder, get in your face, toughness will keep him competing rather than sulking. GV's toughness could drive him to be a better player than a guy with tons of physical tools (like my boy NY) but very little real toughness in his heart.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Is the shoulder still separated?That happened the first what, 3 weeks of the season? "

What difference does it make when it happened? In the immediate aftermath of the injury, he continued to try and play with it until he was forced to shut it down. There was a few game stretch where he was out on the floor with, quite clearly only one good arm. And BTW, an injury like that can and does linger. Webber separated his shoulder early in his Wizards career and it continued to be a problem for him for most of two seasons (including popping out multiple times) until he finally had surgery.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think the "get in you face kind of tough" is often overrated. A lot of guys who make a show out of being tough are more about the show than the actual toughness. I'll take a guy who leaves it all on the floor with little complaint or fanfare over a guy who struts and flexes thinks he should get a standing ovation every time he makes a play.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

as long as you back up your talk you can say what you want.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

A) Normal recovery for a torn calf muscle is 3-4 months. That probably also presumes that after recovery, you're not trying to play hoops every 2 days.

B) http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/11/05/mike-miller-is-tougher-than-he-looks/

=p

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Vasquez a Wizzie if he's available sometime after the 2nd round. I haven't seen him play a lot but he seems to be a gamer.

Posted by: VBFan | April 5, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

GV's toughness could drive him to be a better player than a guy with tons of physical tools (like my boy NY) but very little real toughness in his heart.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM

speaking of NY, he's a better defender than people give him credit for and that's one reason our record is good when he plays big minutes. He makes the man he's guarding work.

GVs antics could get him benched for a week at a time if Flip gives him the AB/JM/NY treatment.

imho, the zards will not pass on GV if he's there at 34th. 70% of the VC seem to be Terp and GV has a legit pedigree on him.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I should clarify. By get-in-your-face tough, I meant the kind where you defend a guy closely doing whatever you have to do, mostly legal, to get the job done. The kind of D where guys tend to get ticked off at you. Being willing to bang / play physically, etc. That's not Miller's game, so I don't fault him for not playing that way, but I could see more of that in GV. Again, in part because I think he's going to have to.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

speaking of NY, he's a better defender than people give him credit for and that's one reason our record is good when he plays big minutes. He makes the man he's guarding work.
Posted by: divi3

Nick gets exactly as much credit as he should for his D. The question has been less about his ability to play D as his willingness to play it, and his focus.

I didn't see the Nets game, but over the past few I have seen, he does seem to be trying harder and more dialed in. He has the size and athleticism to be a decent defender. He has just been missing the 'want-to.'

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I've been too busy to get on here since the last game. This is how I see it.

Blatche was wroking hard to get his 3x2 once the game was iced. until then, he was doing everything to get the game iced. I'll take his first 40 minutes (or whatever) of production and forgive his attempt at a stat grab. I think it is fitting that he didn't get the 3x2 and maybe he learned about "karma."

That said, I loved when he drove 3 times in a row and got blocked then next time he got the ball, took a step to drive and Humphries got in postion for the block and Dray made a sweet dish for the easy basket. That was heads up smart play.

Love Livingston. Want to see him on this team next year. He could be a great PG in this league again. Maybe not, but worth the risk.

Javale looked good too. Definitely playing better and smarter. he made a few plays he would have blown earlier this season.

So that is 3 guys...plus Arenas.

Posted by: Blurred | April 5, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"Is the shoulder still separated?That happened the first what, 3 weeks of the season? "

What difference does it make when it happened? In the immediate aftermath of the injury, he continued to try and play with it until he was forced to shut it down. There was a few game stretch where he was out on the floor with, quite clearly only one good arm. And BTW, an injury like that can and does linger. Webber separated his shoulder early in his Wizards career and it continued to be a problem for him for most of two seasons (including popping out multiple times) until he finally had surgery.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

i thought MM had a similar sublaxation like AJ .

but good article Ts35 i copied the only comment that was left at that site. No doubt was left by a Twolves fan.

Mike Miller played much of last year with the T-Wolves in "visible agony". That's just what he does; as the season progresses you'll soon realise that's his thing, to fall down and writhe about like he's been shot, but refuse to come out of the game despite his supposed injury. Don't be surprised when it turns out to be a pulled muscle or something similarly minor. The guy thinks he's a soccer player and behaves accordingly.


i remember that play referenced in the article. he was definitely dragging his arm around during that game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

GV's toughness could drive him to be a better player than a guy with tons of physical tools (like my boy NY) but very little real toughness in his heart.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:39 PM

speaking of NY, he's a better defender than people give him credit for and that's one reason our record is good when he plays big minutes. He makes the man he's guarding work.

GVs antics could get him benched for a week at a time if Flip gives him the AB/JM/NY treatment.

imho, the zards will not pass on GV if he's there at 34th. 70% of the VC seem to be Terp and GV has a legit pedigree on him.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

why'd u have to ruin it by bringing up NY. I can hear the pitter patter of lil hatin ass rphilli feet now. Get ready to be lectured on how the wiz 7-3 record when NY plays 30 mins means nothing. He only plays big mins when he plays well and he only really plays well when he plays big mins. it would take a highly qualified overpaid NBA basketball coach to figure out what to do............uh Phillip.......Phillip Saunders WAKE UP!

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

agree on all points. Good to see JM simply going over the top of the defense, he can do that to 99% of the players in the league. However I'm starting to wonder if he doesnt have a touch of Kwame girlhands syndrome. Doubting how well he can palm the ball, hope I'm wrong.

Dray has a ridiculous amount of talent, I mean seriously, he can do it all. Up to Flip to harness it, or should I say, get him to "piss a drop when it counts." That's what good coaches are for.

Livingston will go down as one of EGs "genius" moves if he stays healthy. Looks better (physically) every game.

Posted by: divi3 | April 5, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

but I could see more of that in GV. Again, in part because I think he's going to have to.

Posted by: ts35 | April 5, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

which should bring about the kind of hustle and playing with abandon that had folks salivating over Gee and these other dleague jokers. GV will have to bust his @$$ to get on the court, the good thing is, and i hate to give Gary props, GV will be ready to work.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Some people were upset about Blatche at the end of the game last night but I dont think thats really fair. Im not into guys stat padding and going for indivdual stuff like that either but I understand it because Blatche is a young guy who is more specifically a big man and how many big men get triple doubles? Its nearly impossible to get 10 blocks in an NBA game and big men can go there whole career without getting 10 assist so when its there, I understand. Its not like he was 3 boards shy and tried to go crazy at the end. It was just 1 board and it was still relatively in the context of the game.

Lebron doesnt trip because he can come close every night but even the best big man may never ever get one. The good thing for Dray is that he's a skilled enough passer to actually do it again and I wouldnt be shocked if he got one against GS in the very next game. The funny thing is that Martin after the game apologized and said that he has to take care of his "old head". Dray an old head? That tells you how inexperinced our roster is right now, lol

Posted by: dlts2041 | April 5, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Livingston will go down as one of EGs "genius" moves if he stays healthy. Looks better (physically) every game.

There's a very good chance Livingston splits after this season. He is an unrestricted free agent, and has played well enough to get offers from several of teams.

Posted by: djnnnou | April 5, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

how many PGs coming out this yr are ranked better than GV or play better than GV? just a question

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 5, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse
Good question, i think that is why he is projected in second round for two years.
What is the diffrence betwween him and Foye?except that he is cheaper for 3 years.
Do not even think about him in washington, there are several fast Pg's that we can draft in the second round or from our late 1st round.
Just think of tony Parker, he was the 28th pick.

Posted by: gtefferra | April 5, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

It's hard for me to believe that Luke Harangody will be a late second round pick. I think if he is still available for the Wizards high second round pick, they should take him.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | April 5, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

It's sort of a dead topic by now, but just to emphasize: I strongly disagree with whomever suggested we try to get Fisher and Harrington. Fisher is 100 years old. He is so over the hill. It would be awful.

Harrington is AJ 2.0 but not as good and with a worse attitude. He would not help anything. However, he is not at all like Blatche, as Kalorama tried to say. Blatche is tall and lean and smooth and passes. He is immature, it seems, but his game is very teammate-friendly. Blatche is like Kukoc. Harrington is short, never passes, takes more threes, is adept at making bs shots, and never makes his teammates better. Thus, Harrington is like Jamison with a bad, complaining attitude. If the last 3 years has told us anything, it's that we need players who move the ball and hustle on Defense. Harrington is not remotely that.

Posted by: Urnesto | April 5, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Derek Fisher and Al Harrington would be terrible signings. Fisher is old and in a the midst of a season-long decline. Blatche is basically Harrington v2.0. Having them both on the same team would make little sense, esp. given how much it would cost to sign Harrington.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 5, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Come on kalo and youse udder guys. I didn't ask you to critique MY picks. I said that I had limited knowledge of players around the league. Use them 'nads and hazard some info of your own. Or do you not express opinions of your own for fear of the lurkers?

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 5, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

It's not lack of cajones glaw, personally I'm just waiting to see how things shake out with the ownership situation, because that determines everything else, especially what kind of players they want, based on who the coach and GM will be under Ted.

Unless they worked out a good deal, I would prefer they stay away from RFAs. I'm not exactly sure how the RFA rules work, but I wouldn't want the Wiz giving up picks as compensation.

Breezing over the UFA list, there are a couple of guys I would sign almost regardless of who the coach is. Not sure if any of them would sign here though.

Songalia...if he's cheap. As a backup / filler / spot starter guy he was solid and played the way I would like to see the Wiz play.

Roger Mason....Not only does he play smart and understand his role, but it would also quiet about 30% of the random squawking on this blog about how EG let him go.......win-win. The making-that-same-30%-heads'-explode move would be to pass on Mason and resign DeShawn.....ok I think that would make all of our heads would explode.

David Lee....A little undersized, but he brings a lot of the things that AB and JM lack a bit of (hustle, physical banger). He's a smart player too, and I actually think he could play well together as a C with AB, and as a PF with McGee.

Our own FA's. It really depends on what the longer-term goals are. If they don't think they could bring in someone good for '10/'11, I would rather see them make smaller deals to keep cap flexibility for '11/'12. But here are our own FAs I would keep..

Singleton - you always need guys like that who can play their role and occasionally step up as needed.

Livingston - depends a little on who the coach is, but I think he has proven he at least deserves to be part of the guard rotation. Pairing him with Gil could be awesome....or a total train-wreck. But I like his game. Especially if he works hard on his jumper in the offseason.

They might be better with more talent or different talent around them, but I don't think Miller or Foye have distinguished themselves enough that they need to stay. Both are solid skilled players, but may not fit in to the larger picture. I like Foye, but we need someone more athletic to fill that role, and I think Miller is better served as either the 4th / 5th / 6th man option on a better team.

If they can't or decide not to bring in any big name FAs this summer, picking up Foye's option would be an ok move, because he's solid, and the option would maintain their cap room for '11/'12.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

It's not lack of cajones glaw, personally I'm just waiting to see how things shake out with the ownership situation, because that determines everything else, especially what kind of players they want, based on who the coach and GM will be under Ted.

Unless they worked out a good deal, I would prefer they stay away from RFAs. I'm not exactly sure how the RFA rules work, but I wouldn't want the Wiz giving up picks as compensation.

Breezing over the UFA list, there are a couple of guys I would sign almost regardless of who the coach is. Not sure if any of them would sign here though.

Songalia...if he's cheap. As a backup / filler / spot starter guy he was solid and played the way I would like to see the Wiz play.

Roger Mason....Not only does he play smart and understand his role, but it would also quiet about 30% of the random squawking on this blog about how EG let him go.......win-win. The making-that-same-30%-heads'-explode move would be to pass on Mason and resign DeShawn.....ok I think that would make all of our heads would explode.

David Lee....A little undersized, but he brings a lot of the things that AB and JM lack a bit of (hustle, physical banger). He's a smart player too, and I actually think he could play well together as a C with AB, and as a PF with McGee.

Our own FA's. It really depends on what the longer-term goals are. If they don't think they could bring in someone good for '10/'11, I would rather see them make smaller deals to keep cap flexibility for '11/'12. But here are our own FAs I would keep..

Singleton - you always need guys like that who can play their role and occasionally step up as needed.

Livingston - depends a little on who the coach is, but I think he has proven he at least deserves to be part of the guard rotation. Pairing him with Gil could be awesome....or a total train-wreck. But I like his game. Especially if he works hard on his jumper in the offseason.

They might be better with more talent or different talent around them, but I don't think Miller or Foye have distinguished themselves enough that they need to stay. Both are solid skilled players, but may not fit in to the larger picture. I like Foye, but we need someone more athletic to fill that role, and I think Miller is better served as either the 4th / 5th / 6th man option on a better team.

If they can't or decide not to bring in any big name FAs this summer, picking up Foye's option would be an ok move, because he's solid, and the option would maintain their cap room for '11/'12.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

It's not lack of cajones glaw, personally I'm just waiting to see how things shake out with the ownership situation, because that determines everything else, especially what kind of players they want, based on who the coach and GM will be under Ted.

Unless they worked out a good deal, I would prefer they stay away from RFAs. I'm not exactly sure how the RFA rules work, but I wouldn't want the Wiz giving up picks as compensation.

Breezing over the UFA list, there are a couple of guys I would sign almost regardless of who the coach is. Not sure if any of them would sign here though.

Songalia...if he's cheap. As a backup / filler / spot starter guy he was solid and played the way I would like to see the Wiz play.

Roger Mason....Not only does he play smart and understand his role, but it would also quiet about 30% of the random squawking on this blog about how EG let him go.......win-win. The making-that-same-30%-heads'-explode move would be to pass on Mason and resign DeShawn.....ok I think that would make all of our heads would explode.

David Lee....A little undersized, but he brings a lot of the things that AB and JM lack a bit of (hustle, physical banger). He's a smart player too, and I actually think he could play well together as a C with AB, and as a PF with McGee.

Our own FA's. It really depends on what the longer-term goals are. If they don't think they could bring in someone good for '10/'11, I would rather see them make smaller deals to keep cap flexibility for '11/'12. But here are our own FAs I would keep..

Singleton - you always need guys like that who can play their role and occasionally step up as needed.

Livingston - depends a little on who the coach is, but I think he has proven he at least deserves to be part of the guard rotation. Pairing him with Gil could be awesome....or a total train-wreck. But I like his game. Especially if he works hard on his jumper in the offseason.

They might be better with more talent or different talent around them, but I don't think Miller or Foye have distinguished themselves enough that they need to stay. Both are solid skilled players, but may not fit in to the larger picture. I like Foye, but we need someone more athletic to fill that role, and I think Miller is better served as either the 4th / 5th / 6th man option on a better team.

If they can't or decide not to bring in any big name FAs this summer, picking up Foye's option would be an ok move, because he's solid, and the option would maintain their cap room for '11/'12.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

It's not lack of cajones glaw, personally I'm just waiting to see how things shake out with the ownership situation, because that determines everything else, especially what kind of players they want, based on who the coach and GM will be under Ted.

Unless they worked out a good deal, I would prefer they stay away from RFAs. I'm not exactly sure how the RFA rules work, but I wouldn't want the Wiz giving up picks as compensation.

Breezing over the UFA list, there are a couple of guys I would sign almost regardless of who the coach is. Not sure if any of them would sign here though.

Songalia...if he's cheap. As a backup / filler / spot starter guy he was solid and played the way I would like to see the Wiz play.

Roger Mason....Not only does he play smart and understand his role, but it would also quiet about 30% of the random squawking on this blog about how EG let him go.......win-win. The making-that-same-30%-heads'-explode move would be to pass on Mason and resign DeShawn.....ok I think that would make all of our heads would explode.

David Lee....A little undersized, but he brings a lot of the things that AB and JM lack a bit of (hustle, physical banger). He's a smart player too, and I actually think he could play well together as a C with AB, and as a PF with McGee.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It's not lack of cajones glaw, personally I'm just waiting to see how things shake out with the ownership situation, because that determines everything else, especially what kind of players they want, based on who the coach and GM will be under Ted.

Unless they worked out a good deal, I would prefer they stay away from RFAs. I'm not exactly sure how the RFA rules work, but I wouldn't want the Wiz giving up picks as compensation.

Breezing over the UFA list, there are a couple of guys I would sign almost regardless of who the coach is. Not sure if any of them would sign here though.

Songalia...if he's cheap. As a backup / filler / spot starter guy he was solid and played the way I would like to see the Wiz play.

Roger Mason....Not only does he play smart and understand his role, but it would also quiet about 30% of the random squawking on this blog about how EG let him go.......win-win. The making-that-same-30%-heads'-explode move would be to pass on Mason and resign DeShawn.....ok I think that would make all of our heads would explode.

David Lee....A little undersized, but he brings a lot of the things that AB and JM lack a bit of (hustle, physical banger). He's a smart player too, and I actually think he could play well together as a C with AB, and as a PF with McGee.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Ack! Sorry about that! I was going for my own triple-double apparently.

Posted by: ts35 | April 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

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