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Andray Blatche: 'I'm not satisfied at all'

By Michael Lee  |  April 15, 2010; 3:00 PM ET
 
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Blatche can average 20/10/5 with a couple blocks and steals, for 5 seasons and some people will still not trust him.

All he has to do is prove them wrong! He doesn't need any more motivation than that.

Posted by: G-Man11 | April 15, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Said all the right things, what a tricky AAU poison he is! Thankfully Wilbon has alerted EG to his true nature and he can be traded for a bag of chips.

Seriously tho

More talk of taking jumpers! Hopefully he means making the 15ft automatic. I saw a stat that since the AS break, blatche is top5 in the league for points in the paint. Should stay that way

Posted by: divi3 | April 15, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

"Blatche can average 20/10/5 with a couple blocks and steals, for 5 seasons and some people will still not trust him."

True. Look at Antawn Jamison.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 15, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Here's hoping the team can capitalize on his second half stats and get him the hell out of here.

Posted by: pondaz | April 15, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

he said jumpers one too many times

Posted by: jefferu | April 15, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"Here's hoping the team can capitalize on his second half stats and get him the hell out of here."

Yeah, just like they traded away C. Web. Given past history of the team, your wish may very well come true!

Posted by: sagaliba | April 15, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Blatche can average 20/10/5 with a couple blocks and steals, for 5 seasons and some people will still not trust him."

True. Look at Antawn Jamison.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 15, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse
AJ never did it. No one had issues trusting AJ some of us just knew that he is a complementary player not a superstar. Just as some of us really like Blatche but can acknowledge that he is not yet a cornerstone of the franchise type player. he can become that over the next few years, where as AJ's best years were behind him. AJ never received anything close to the level of scrutiny and criticism (some of it justified) that AB has gotten.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 15, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Then again, AJ was never picked up for solicitation either......

Posted by: ts35 | April 15, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Then again, AJ was never picked up for solicitation either......

Posted by: ts35 | April 15, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

b/c he had enough sense to know that millionaires shouldn't get caught paying for it.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 15, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Exactly. If AB doesn't even have that much sense, how can we trust him?

Posted by: ts35 | April 15, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

i love this guy. If we get lucky in draft, meaning at least a top 3 pick,and sign gay and camby or okur, next yrs team will be way better than if we had just kept caron and jamison, won a few more games, and gotten a worse draft seed. If only Ernie coulda kept Haywood tho!

my team:

arenas, turner or johnson, gay, blatche, Camby

livingston, young, thorton, Singleton, Mcgee, our other 1st rounder (Gordon Hayward?), and a big banger for our 2nd rounder

Posted by: bbachrac | April 15, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Keep Blatche !!! - Get rid of EG and ESPECIALLY Wilbon !!!!

Posted by: dcperspective | April 15, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I liked what he said at the end and its what I keep telling people. 1st off let me say to all the fans out there who dont watch Wiz games at all but always run there mouth, the kid hasnt been stat padding. If you watch us play then its clear to see. He passes alot, he gets doubled alot, and he still shoots a high percentage.

I liked what he said at the end because I keep telling people that even if you think his numbers will go down when we have other talent and he's just blowing up on a bad team, all that will be canceled out by the fact that he wont be doubled at all anymore and he will get some easy bunnies from guys like Gil when they are doubled. This guy is not Mike James or someone. He has real talent and can put up numbers on a good team.

The jumper thing does scare me some and it also became more clear when he started talking about Gil & AJ. It almost sounded like he was trying to say with Gil coming back, he's going to play alot more like AJ and start running the pick & pop all game with Gil and shoot jumpers. Again though fans, dont worry. Flip is too much of a pest to let that happened. I think he will add range to the J or sure it up and he will still be down low alot thanks to Flip

Posted by: dlts2041 | April 15, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

The main thing is for him to work on his body & explosion. If he can get toned up and in great shape then I could see him having games next year where he is going one on one with Amare and killing him. The kid is that talented but he's got a little of AI in him. AI was great but never trained or lift weights. All he would do in the summer is play basketball and he thought it was fine because he could score 30. How do you know that if you didnt workout and did everythign to the max that you wouldnt average 35?

Thats how I feel about Dray. He will be good next year no matter what just because he has that much natural talent but if he works out and does everything to the max in the offseason then he will be great. He might get mad next year because he's averaging 18 & 9 but people are still ripping him or he just may feel satisfied with that when in reality if he wouldve had a better summer then he couldve average 23 & 11. Dont just think what you are is good, think what you couldve been.

I really wish he adds like 50 pounds to his bench press, cuts his body fat by alot, and works with someone like Grover on a whole bunch of explosion drills so he can finish stronger by the rim or blow by guys easier. Thats what will make him a beast but Im not sold on him doing that from that interview

Posted by: dlts2041 | April 15, 2010 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"AJ never received anything close to the level of scrutiny and criticism (some of it justified) that AB has gotten.Posted by: lilhollywood10"

Sure he did. A lot of it from uninformed folks right here on this blog.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 15, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

HE IS A KNUCKLEHEAD!!! The Serial Skirt Chaser(AB) will never change unless they get a new coach, do you really expect Blatche to listen to Flip or his coaching staff after that "incident" during the season, that is exactly why i detest AAU ball, long on bull sh#t short on fundamentals and team play. Ted Leonsis needs to send a message and it starts with giving Flip and EG their waliking papers, EG for not imposing a suspension on Blatche for insubordination when the "incident" occured which would have sent the right message to everyone on the team but again Grunfeld underminded his coach(sound familiar?) and Flip for not going ballistic on EG and Blatche both. Blatche doesn't get it he's like a lot of these kids in today's culture ME,ME,ME, and then Me again. Draft Derrick Favors with the fourth pick he has can't miss written all over him and he has the right attitude and oh yeah hire Avery Johnson.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 15, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

We are talking about AB based on what he did this second half of the season.He is good to be better. I think he has shown maturity but still need help on this department.With a good back court ,his game is going to be perfect.If MM was taking shoots AB was allways willing to pass.A lot pF even in winning teams are not good in passing the ball.Nearly 40% of his turn overs are when he is double teamed, he will learn those in the future.
Please leve him alone, Tell your Wilborn to control his fenestra.

Posted by: gtefferra | April 15, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

So if EG/Les BouleS are going to cut Gilby slack and bring him back, then what of JCritt?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | April 15, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Crit will not return. You can't have Crit and Gilby back on the same team after what transpired.

Posted by: dcwizard | April 15, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

J-CRIT was toast the day he got hurt in HOTLANTA. I'm convinced b/c the team did not exercise his option, that ERNIE was pissed he got hurt. I think he played against orders from management.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 15, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

How do we get AB or JM working with The Dream????

Posted by: ts35 | April 15, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it because some will say...

It's getting old.

Posted by: Janitor_with_a_Jumpshot | April 15, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

When are the Wizards going to "hire" a big man coach?

Maybe it's because Ernie said after (trading the 5th pick DSong, OP, ET for MM and Foye) “I like guards”.

Based on how the team is structured with AB proving he can the play power spot and McGee is their future C (not Fab for another year) they need to go out and sign a Camby as a player coach to mentor Mcgee or sign a big man that can teach him to play with the skills he has.

Yes, Flip is right the young guys need to make a commitment get into better physical condition.

Wouldn’t a great organization have trainers for that?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | April 15, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Gotta agree with you dlts. I gather from the interview that Andray believes he just needs to continue doing what he has been doing, or maybe tweak his routine a little, to improve his game. I don't get the sense that he feels compelled to "buffet his body and make it his slave" in order to achieve his basketball ambitions. He seems more content to follow what he feels is the natural trajectory of his talents and abilities. I hope I'm wrong and he takes a page out of Gilbert's regimen and puts in work this summer. That kind of effort will certainly yield the kind of results you describe.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | April 15, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Flip is right the young guys need to make a commitment get into better physical condition.

Wouldn’t a great organization have trainers for that?

Every team in the NBA, good and bad, has trainers. The difference between the good ones and the bad ones is that on the good ones the players don't need to have a burlap sack tossed over their heads and be dragged kicking and screaming to the trainers like they're being kidnapped for ransom. If Blatche had any "commitment" he wouldn't wait for someone else to take responsibility for his personal growth. I'm sure if he were to ask nicely, Arenas would give him Tim Grover's number.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 16, 2010 12:33 AM | Report abuse

Blache has the potential to be a more impactful player than Antawn Jamison because he's much, much better at the "ball movement" aspect of the game. It's hard to beat Antawn's hustle and scoring ability, but Blache seems more focused on defense than Antawn ever was, is a much better ball handler, and I've seen some crazy no-look passes come from him. Maybe he doesn't have Antawn's character- few do- but give him time- what is he, 23 years old, still? We've been watching him grow up for 4 years now (he was only what 18, 19 when he got to the Wiz?) He's becoming a man, learning what to say and what not to say, how to keep himself focused- all the right things. He's a star, an all star. We haven't seen his ceiling- we're still very far from it.

Posted by: jistutz | April 16, 2010 1:56 AM | Report abuse

"I liked what he said at the end and its what I keep telling people. 1st off let me say to all the fans out there who dont watch Wiz games at all but always run there mouth, the kid hasnt been stat padding. If you watch us play then its clear to see. He passes alot, he gets doubled alot, and he still shoots a high percentage."

Yeah, you're right. He didn't beg his teammates to give him a rebound so he could get a triple double. That in no way is a sign of a guy worried about his stats. Plzzzzzz.

Nobody is doubting he is a multi-faceted skilled player or, at least, I'm not. I just doubt very much that he is someone a) worth rebuilding around b) worth any sort of long term contractual investment. He reminds me of a Zach Randolph in a lot of ways and how much has that dude won in the NBA? Zero and Randolph is probably a more talented player than even the newly crowned great AB. If you can keep him around on another reasonable contract and he behaves next season, maybe. But, what are the chances he is not going to be tooting the I'm-highly-underpaid horn after next season or during the season and be looking for a major extension in the 10-12 per range. No thank you! Get rid of him while the coals are still hot!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 6:34 AM | Report abuse

"He's a star, an all star. We haven't seen his ceiling- we're still very far from it."

C'mon. First, the very obvious is he is not an all-star. Second, we very likely have seen his ceiling. The only question is whether he can maintain his conditioning so that he can perform at that level for an entire season. He's never done it before.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

"I really wish he adds like 50 pounds to his bench press, cuts his body fat by alot, and works with someone like Grover on a whole bunch of explosion drills so he can finish stronger by the rim or blow by guys easier. Thats what will make him a beast but Im not sold on him doing that from that interview."

Blatche has been widely criticized for being allergic to the weight room his entire career and now all of a sudden you expect him to hang out with Grover for an entire summer. Funny! He already said he is going home to Georgia to fatten up on some Pecan Pie. And, I'm willing to bet, he probably makes more appearances in the VIP rooms of clubs over the summer than the gym.

As far as the explosion in his hops is concerned, either you got that or you don't. It's not something that appears after extra effort in the weight room. If that were the case, many more players would have willed themselves to be the next MJ in that category. Doesn't happen and he doesn't have it. So don't hold your breath. He does compensate for it nicely with his ball handling skills and clever post moves.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 6:49 AM | Report abuse

"Maybe it's because Ernie said after (trading the 5th pick DSong, OP, ET for MM and Foye) “I like guards”."

SeaDogs78, your posts get dumber and dumber. I wish it were possible that you were joking with this statement as EG clearly was when he made it. And, you're right, the Wiz probably have no training staff to speak of. But, I'm glad you brought out your near brilliant suggestion of signing Marcus Camby this summer to totally waste part of our cap space. Just goes to show what you think a very well run organization should do and it's comical. Don't forget to waste more cap space on John Salmons!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Who even said that the Wizards were trying to build around Blache? It's pretty simple, he is a good player with potential and a rather cheap contract. He doesn't have to be the cornerstone, just keep playing good ball and be part of the 15 players under contract. It doesn't have to be this "all(the franchise) or nothing(trade him)" vision of Blatch.

Posted by: Theone9 | April 16, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

"First, the very obvious is he is not an all-star. Second, we very likely have seen his ceiling."

that's your personal disdain for him talking and nothing else. He's 23 and been a full time starter for 32 games, there's no reason to assume this is his ceiling. And like it or not, he did put up All-Star type numbers after the trade. Will he be an all-star one day? Who knows....but to say it's "obvious" he wont is just haterade!

Posted by: divi3 | April 16, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

@Theone,

Well, that would be nice and it sounds good, but the situation then arises do we trade him before next season, trade him before the trading deadline, or sign him to a multi-year contract for probably in the neighborhood of 10-12 per after next season. Or, you just lose him for nothing. Thinking ahead, I don't sign AB for that kind of contract. That would not be part of my rebuild. So, quite simply he is either in your rebuild plans or he is not. That's how I see it.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

good thing you arent making the decisions rphili! AB is under contract for 2 more years, dont have to do anything next season but watch him develop

Posted by: divi3 | April 16, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

"Blatche can average 20/10/5 with a couple blocks and steals, for 5 seasons and some people will still not trust him."

True. Look at Antawn Jamison.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 15, 2010 3:42 PM

So true. I personally would never trust Antawn because he publicly tried to give off the air of a professional but only cared about his stats and his minutes. I'm glad that cancer is off the team. Good riddance!

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

"that's your personal disdain for him talking and nothing else. He's 23 and been a full time starter for 32 games, there's no reason to assume this is his ceiling. And like it or not, he did put up All-Star type numbers after the trade. Will he be an all-star one day? Who knows....but to say it's "obvious" he wont is just haterade!"

Well, first, let's be clear about what I actually said. I never said "he won't" be an all-star. I quite clearly stated he is not an all-star. And, as you and others are so overly impressed by his gaudy numbers over what a 30 game span or so, I am not. He stuffed a stat sheet on a Lousy team. A team that set a franchise record for consecutive loses, remember? Not that I'm placing the blame on AB, but let's gain a little perspective here. As for his ceiling, if you think he is going to average better than 22 pts, 7 rbs, and 4/5 assts or thereabouts the rest of his career, more power to you. Although very good numbers, I think that is about his plateau and those numbers probably come down once 60% of the offense is no longer run through him. And, besides all his off court and even on court behavior issues, I found it disturbing that most of his stats were produced in the 1st quarter primarily most games or earlier in games. In other words, either he is chump change in the 4th quarter or he still is not in the premier shape that he needs to be in to even consider being paid a premium contract. I like AB just not as any rebuilding cornerstone or a guy I would trust with a fat contract. I think it's a disaster in the making. If he produces next year similarly without behavior issues, and somehow is willing to sign a reasonable contract, which I think is highly unlikely, I'm on board the AB express.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Draft Derrick Favors with the fourth pick he has can't miss written all over him and he has the right attitude and oh yeah hire Avery Johnson.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 15, 2010 8:37 PM

Why would anyone listen to your coaching recommendations when you shilled (pined?) for Eddie Jordan all season? Leave the coaching decisions to the professionals.

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

Can't see any logic at all for trading Blatche. To me Blatche is to the Wizards what Durant is to the OKC.

No, you can't compare the Wizs to OKC nor can you compare Blatche to Durant, but taking Durant from OKC would be akin to taking Batche away for the Wiz.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 16, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Second, we very likely have seen his ceiling. The only question is whether he can maintain his conditioning so that he can perform at that level for an entire season. He's never done it before.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 6:38 AM

And what tells you we've likely seen his ceiling, given that he's started for all of half a season? Maybe you should never post before or after 7:00 am.

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

yeah, clearly he is not in good enough shape. And there will be no excuses if he's the same way next season.

Posted by: divi3 | April 16, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Let's assume he averages 21 pts, 7 rbs, and 4 assts next season and you are now the GM. Do you sign AB to a 5/6 year 60-70 million dollar contract???

You know my answer. I think it is complete idiocy if you do.

And, if he digresses, he is not only no longer worth that amount obviously, you've missed any opportunity to get say a high quality draft pick or something else of decent value in return for him.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

arenas, turner or johnson, gay, blatche, Camby
livingston, young, thorton, Singleton, Mcgee, our other 1st rounder (Gordon Hayward?), and a big banger for our 2nd rounder

Posted by: bbachrac
Camby thats not a bad pick-up at all, I think and McGee backing up. But if we get Johnson why get Gay??? Livingston will probablly be better suited to start and move Gil to the 2 guard with Blatche, Thorton and maybe Camby.

I think if we resign livington the only player taht could start for us, in the entire draft is Turner. Even Wall would come off the bench.

Posted by: dsquare | April 16, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Blatche is to the Wizards as Durant is to OKC?

Larry...let me introduce you to Blank Stare Bob.

=|

Posted by: SDMDTSU | April 16, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

I like AB just not as any rebuilding cornerstone or a guy I would trust with a fat contract. . . . If he produces next year similarly without behavior issues, and somehow is willing to sign a reasonable contract, which I think is highly unlikely, I'm on board the AB express.

Posted by: rphilli721

Agreed. He's a talented player who's played very nicely recently, but he certainly needs to do that longer (without on- or off-court antics) before anyone should think of him as the second coming or the recipient of a jumbo contract.

Posted by: nmik | April 16, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Blatche is to the Wizards as Durant is to OKC?

Larry...let me introduce you to Blank Stare Bob.

=|

Posted by: SDMDTSU | April 16, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

@artie,

See above my friend. I offered a very well reasoned argument as to why he has probably plateaued numbers wise. If you don't agree that's your business, but it's a more well formed opinion than your "he's only started half a season" based opinion.

@Divi,

Well, I guess that gives us one more season before the same scenario plays out or gives him more time to gripe about being underpaid. I swore I read he had one year left, but apparently not.

@Larry,

You have competing voices in your head. You can't compare Durant to AB, yet you do??? Huh? Does your neck hurt from all those voices arguing with you and the back and forth.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

so if he puts up some of the best numbers in the league, it's idiocy to sign him because if he regresses you missed the chance to trade him?

Look at Zach Randolph's contract and how many times he's been traded. Any big man who produces like AB has been can be traded because they are a rare commodity teams dont mind taking chances on.

Posted by: divi3 | April 16, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

@artie,

See above my friend. I offered a very well reasoned argument as to why he has probably plateaued numbers wise. If you don't agree that's your business, but it's a more well formed opinion than your "he's only started half a season" based opinion.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:15 AM

I hate to break this to you, dude, but Blatche starting for half a season is a FACT not an opinion. I can't think of any other young big who starts for the first time in his career, averages what he averaged and is considered to have hit his ceiling. It's mind-boggling for you to say that when you have absolutely NOTHING to base it on. Most neophyte starters (especially bigs) get better with experience. Accordingly, I would argue that the better-formed opinion is that he will elevate his game over the next few seasons. History is on the side of THAT opinion.

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

How about look at how many teams Zach Randolph has been a cancer on and how much money teams have wasted on him??? And, how much losing he's done making said money. How about that? While it's true big men get more second chances than most, you only get premium return initially in most cases.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

@artie,

See above my friend. I offered a very well reasoned argument as to why he has probably plateaued numbers wise. If you don't agree that's your business, but it's a more well formed opinion than your "he's only started half a season" based opinion.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:15 AM

I hate to break this to you, dude, but Blatche starting for half a season is a FACT not an opinion. I can't think of any other young big who starts for the first time in his career, averages what he averaged and is considered to have hit his ceiling. It's mind-boggling for you to say that when you have absolutely NOTHING to base it on. Most neophyte starters (especially bigs) get better with experience. Accordingly, I would argue that the better-formed opinion is that he will elevate his game over the next few seasons. History is on the side of THAT opinion.

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

For years Odom suffered the same types of criticisms that Blatche is getting here. Commitment, consistentcy, and hard work and dedication, maturity were all questioned in Odom.

Even the Lakers did not treat him like the top notch star he was during his resigning with them.

But, Phil and Lakers have him under contract and it isn't any question that the Lakers would not be winning any Championships or going to any without Odom.

All these negative comments about Blatche is nothing more than chinks in the Armour.

I am sure the Wiz will realize this and probably they already do.

You see these frailties that we like to point out about Blatche are minisucle and will not keep him from being a first rate player in this League going forward.

Just like they haven't kept Odom from being a first rate NBA playa' they won't keep Blatche from being a first rate NBA playa' either.

Wisdom can be oh so amusing at times, especially the wisdomatic Blatch naysayers that are projecting that if he plays well next season then the Wizs should not offer him a market contract.

What? What? What is up with that?

Trade him now while the coals are hot???

What???

I thought the Pollins sold this franchise?

Isn't that what we have been doing in the past to all our young players whom have went on to win Rings on other Teams.

Rphilli721, whuut man, whut is up wit you logic. And SDMDTSU, Blank Stare Bob. Right.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 16, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

How about look at how many teams Zach Randolph has been a cancer on and how much money teams have wasted on him??? And, how much losing he's done making said money. How about that? While it's true big men get more second chances than most, you only get premium return initially in most cases.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:25 AM

How do you compare Blatche to a confirmed jailbird and ham-and-egger like Randolph? Their backgrounds and skillsets are completely different. Zach's been getting arresting since he was 14 and got thrown in the clink again as recently as last year. Just admit you're a hater and move on.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jul/19/arrested-development-new-grizzly-randolph-seems/

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

I hate to break it to you dude, but you refuted nothing on which I based that opinion. You want them listed since reading is not your friend.

- He stuffed the stat sheet on a LOUSY team.

- He is not likely to have 60% of the offense run through him in the future.

- He average somewhere in the neighborhood of 22 pts, 7 rbs, and 4/5 assts since the trades. So, in other words, for those numbers to get much better he would have to become a top 10/15 type player in the NBA. Smoking some fine stuff if that is what you see in AB!

- Finally, he has never produced anything like those numbers for a full season and judging how he wears down during individual games now, I think a full season as a starter will really grind on him and his production.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps, Artie, debating is not your friend. I was not comparing their police records. I was comparing similar numbers, similar levels of being a knucklehead, potential similar contracts, and the fact that Randolph has been mistaken for a cornerstone player on a team as I feel AB may soon be. And, the last time I checked, they are both PF's. Take a deep breath, exhale, and find someone you can out reason, if you can.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Yeah kinda thought you might say I was comparing Blatche to Durant, but the comparison only goes to Blatche's value to Wizard's and Durant's value to OKC and nothing more.

Rphilli721, you cannot really believe that Blatche isn't a keeper for the Washington Wizards. I just can't fathom why you believe that.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 16, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

@ Larry,

Funny how you draw comparisons to a bench player when talking about AB. Bravo! You nailed it. A bench player who was once considered and paid more like a franchise cornerstone, which he clearly is not. I'm not debating whether AB has talent or is a decent player. I'm saying I don't build anything around him and give him big money, perhaps ever. The Wiz will be sorry if they do probably sooner rather than later if that happens. And, his flourish to end this season may be more mirage than you guys are willing to admit for whatever reason. Get a little perspective will ya!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"Rphilli721, you cannot really believe that Blatche isn't a keeper for the Washington Wizards. I just can't fathom why you believe that."

Depends on what your definition of "keeper" is. At his current contract, sure, absolutely. As a high paid, long term, cornerstone-of-franchise type deal, not now and probably not ever. I seem to remember he was suspended twice just this past season for insubordination issues and you can expand from there very easily. Ignoring certain behavioral signs is what got us in the GA mess to begin with and if you go back to before he got his big payday I was not on board with that decision either.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

@Rphilli

It's so easy to throw you off your position that it's laughable.

-First you said Blatche had hit his ceiling. Now, your're saying he'll never be a top 10/15 player or get MUCH better. Be careful, son, if you backpedal any farther you'll likely fall off a cliff! (How's that for logic?)

WRT both having similar levels of "being a knucklehead", how do you neatly excise Randolph's lenghty involvement with police from any discussion of "knuckleheadness"? I thought when we considered someone's past deeds, we looked at everything, especially if we are trying to make a valid comparison. So Randolph's arrests, allegations of sexual assault, DUI, etc., should all be considered, no?

-The fact that Blatche started for the first time and averaged good numbers over half a season doesn't rule out his doing it for a whole season if given the chance. Unless your name is Flip Saunders you don't know who the offense will be run through next year. So are you Flip?
Once again, your logic is faulty and your ability to reason has come under scrutiny. Thank goodness we weren't relying on you to develop the space program.

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

"Yeah kinda thought you might say I was comparing Blatche to Durant, but the comparison only goes to Blatche's value to Wizard's and Durant's value to OKC and nothing more."

Blatche's value to the Wiz = record losing streak.

Durant's value to OKC = the best player on a playoff team in the Western Conference and an almost sure fire future hall of fame player (barring injury) in his infancy.

I can see the equivalency in their respective value...sure.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"First you said Blatche had hit his ceiling. Now, your're saying he'll never be a top 10/15 player or get MUCH better. Be careful, son, if you backpedal any farther you'll likely fall off a cliff! (How's that for logic?)"

Wow...you are a bigger dimwit than I thought. The obvious logic to anyone who can understand logic is that for his numbers to improve from the past 30 games or so, he would be or have to become a top 10/15 player in the NBA. And, since I don't believe AB is that caliber of player, the obvious logic is that numbers wise, he performed about as well as he is going to or has hit his ceiling statistically. In the future, he will not clearly be the best player on the court and, therefore, 60% of the offense should not and will not be run through him making this seasons inflated numbers even more of an anomaly. Can you comprehend? You may be of a different opinion and I'll be sure to call you out on it in the future bc you are also arguing against many people within the NBA who, according to Wilbon, believe that the idea of building a team around Blatche is lunacy. I agree.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

By the way, artie. No more classroom time with you. I think you need to focus on your GED studies. It's pretty obvious you don't comprehend based on your responses.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Artiesilver: Yeah i backed EJ, He took a team that every NBA expert said had no business making the postseason to the playoffs four straight years then a lot of you were not satisfied with that and started having unrealistic expectations,i'm not going to rehash EJ's tenure here but i'll say this what have we done since he left?.................. yeah right, not a damn thing, EG is responsible for everything that has transpired since he fired Jordan including not backing Flip when the "serial skirt chaser"(AB) dissed Flip during a game, yeah Ernie way to back your coach. This team needs a no-nonsense coach and Avery Johnson is just who Ted Leonsis should hire, Javale McGee would benefit right away, AJ helped Tim Duncan get his first championship ring. The Wiz have plenty of cap space and two first round draft picks if i'm Ted Leonsis i don't trust anyone like Grunfeld with a golden oppourtunity like this.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 16, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

""The obvious logic to anyone who can understand logic is that for his numbers to improve from the past 30 games or so, he would be or have to become a top 10/15 player in the NBA.""

Wow. So if he averaged one point more and one rebound more per game (an improvement by any measure), he's a top 10-15 player? What is he now? A top 15-20 player? If so, you just destroyed your WHOLE weak argument. You do NOT give up a top 20 talent (by your measure?) for the compensation you've been pushing for on this blog. You are a certified donkey. Let us look at your gums for the telltale signs of worms.

""In the future, he will not clearly be the best player on the court and, therefore, 60% of the offense should not and will not be run through him making this seasons inflated numbers even more of an anomaly.""

How do you know that, Nostradamus? Who's on the roster when next November rolls around? This is starting to become child's play. It really is.

""You may be of a different opinion and I'll be sure to call you out on it in the future bc you are also arguing against many people within the NBA who, according to Wilbon, believe that the idea of building a team around Blatche is lunacy. I agree.""

I haven't seen enough of him to say that you build around him, but thankfully, he's under contract for the next two years (and cheap, too!) so we've got time to find out. No fire sales where there's no fire!

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

@dargregmag,

What has Eddie Jordan done since he left here?? Not a damn thing!! So you're red herring of an argument works both ways. It is exceedingly difficult for a veteran head coach to get fired 82 games into his contract. Eddie Jordan is stellar in that respect, I guess.

BTW, when AJ helped Tim Duncan get his first ring it was a player. That's not the capacity you're proposing for him here. So whatchutalkin' 'bout, man?

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

By the way, artie. No more classroom time with you. I think you need to focus on your GED studies. It's pretty obvious you don't comprehend based on your responses.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 16, 2010 10:40 AM

When you get a little better at critical analysis get back to me. I will gladly give you more tutoring (albeit unconventionally). I know my method is harsh, but as the above response bt you indicates, it keeps you from continuing a fool's errand. Good day, sir!

Posted by: artiesliver | April 16, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"So true. I personally would never trust Antawn because he publicly tried to give off the air of a professional but only cared about his stats and his minutes. I'm glad that cancer is off the team. Good riddance!" - artiesliver

I'm glad someone else could see through the AJ BS.

Posted by: Fief1 | April 16, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The fact of the matter is that 'Dray produced big-time NBA scoring numbers when he got consistent minutes over the last 31 games of the season. He demonstrated that he could produce even when teams focused on him on defense. He rarely had the ball in the low block without a double-team (and sometimes a triple-team). Producing on a weak team is MUCH more difficult than producing on a good team. Once there is more offensive help, he'll have more one-on-one opportunities and there are very few PF that can play him one-on-one. He's too big; too quick; too good a shooter; and he's very unselfish.

Posted by: Fief1 | April 16, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

BTW - it's a shame that Wilbon has a bully pulpit where he can take shots at players even though he doesn't even attend Wizards games.

Wilbon says that he got his info about Blatche from NBA players (AJ and Caron perhaps), coaches (Eddie "I'm out of a job again" Jordon perhaps) and scouts (I'm betting on Tapout). No axes to grind there, right!

Posted by: Fief1 | April 16, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

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