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Who should return?


I'll be back. Who's coming with me? (Photo by Fernando Medina/NBAE via Getty Images)


With four games left in the season, there is little left for the Wizards to accomplish as a team, but much is at stake for individual members of this team. Of the 16 players on the roster -- healthy, suspended or otherwise -- only six are under contract after this season. Gilbert Arenas is under contract through 2014. Andray Blatche is around through 2012. The Wizards already picked up the third-year option on JaVale McGee and fourth-year options Nick Young and Al Thornton. And, Quinton Ross is unlikely to decline his team option worth $1.1 million.

The Wizards will certainly look dramatically different next season, with the team adding two first-round picks, a high second-round pick, and with $18.7 million in salary cap space. And, they could also make trades with the players under contract beyond this season.

This will be another critical offseason for the Wizards, with the moves from last season -- hiring Coach Flip Saunders, trading for Randy Foye and Mike Miller and signing Fabricio Oberto yielding only a five-game improvement to this point. All of those pieces managed to remain after the Wizards' rapid trade deadline rebuilding project.

You can be assured that Javaris Crittenton will not be back. Gun incident aside; he never really established himself in his short stint with the team and missed the first 50 games with a left foot injury. So, that leaves the Wizards to decide what to do with the other nine free agents on the roster.

Josh Howard has a team option worth $11.8 million, which the Wizards will not pick up. Howard played just four games, but the Wizards were impressed with his enthusiasm and attitude and would like to have him back even as he faces a six- to eight-month recovery from a torn ACL. Foye, done for the year with a torn ligament in his left wrist, will be a restricted free agent this summer. He can become an unrestricted free agent if the team declines to tender his $4.8 million qualifying offer to gain first right of refusal.

Saunders has talked lately about the way Blatche, McGee and Shaun Livingston have progressed in recent weeks. Livingston has gained more confidence with each game and proven to be a more-than serviceable point guard. He and Miller are two players that the Wizards are interested in retaining, but both have expressed a desire to be in winning situations.

James Singleton has said he would like return. Teams could use a player with his energy and intensity but his production has declined in recent weeks. Earl Boykins made an initial splash, but his playing time has fluctuated of late and he will be 34 this summer. Fabricio Oberto is currently the starting center, but he just turned 35. And, Cartier Martin and Cedric Jackson are Development League projects still on 10-day contracts.

The key for this summer is finding the right pieces or adding a huge building block with the considerable cap space. But which current players should stick around?

By Michael Lee  |  April 8, 2010; 3:44 PM ET
 
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Probably a little outside the bounds of this particular article, bt Flip and EG should have been on the list, too

Posted by: ts35 | April 8, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

EG need to use the opprtunity to give a minimum three years contract for SL or pay him a garanted MLE for just one year depending on which one the player like better.
I am not sure what MM will add to this year result unless we sign a true superstar level C or Pf.
No place for RF,EB,FO,QR
try to pair AT with the late 1st round or early second round pick for a better SF who is consistant on both ends of the court.
Draft either a C,PF or if possible Evans Turner.If the lotery pick is PF or center look a SG from free agency.
This will be a playoff team.
signing JS and JH might be fine but JH is not going to be ready for 2010-11 season.

Posted by: gtefferra | April 8, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow, currently 1% and 5% for Cedric Jackson and J. Crittendon respectively! I didn't know you guys where on this blog! Come on out, what's you're user handle?

Posted by: millineumman | April 8, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope they can keep:

James Singleton
Shaun Livington
Al Thorton
Josh Howard

Areans
Blatche
Mcgee
Foye

Next year I'd love to see a starting lineup of:

Arenas
Livingston
Blatche
Josh Howard
Some new big

With a bench of:

Foye
Mcgee (playing major minutes though)
Thorton
Singleton


Posted by: rock77music | April 8, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I wish above all that we could somehow get rid of Arenas. He's the worst perimeter defender in the NBA, and he can no long finish effectively around the rim. At best, he's a chucker, as Hollinger pointed out today. And he's signed for 4 more years at near-max money. What an albatross for a rebuilding team. We need another Allan Houston rule out of the next CBA. Otherwise, the NBA will destroy fan interest in the nation's eighth largest market.

Posted by: Dellis2 | April 8, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Livingston. That's it, that's the list.

Keep open cap space next season, and use it to facilitate trades and collect future draft picks.

Posted by: disgruntledfan | April 8, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Probably a little outside the bounds of this particular article, bt Flip and EG should have been on the list, too

Posted by: ts35 | April 8, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The poll was who would you like to see in a Wizards uniform next season.

From most of the posts I read on here I think about 50 % would like to see Ernie and Flip back?

Maybe tomorrow's poll will be how many people would like to see Ernie running the club and Flip the head coach next year?

I think you know how I would vote!

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | April 8, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

They should keep:

McGEE at the #5.
BLATCHE and SINGLETON at the #4.
THORNTON at the #3.
ARENAS, FOYE, and YOUNG at the #2.
LIVINGSTON at the #1.

They absolutely should sign LIVINGSTON. And a FA is almost a must here as the two best #1's are sure to be gone when we lottery pick.

They should cut ROSS if that can be done under league rules, and take the cap hit if he exercises his player option which he almost certainly will. It won't be bad as his salary for 2010-11 is $1,146,333.

I would consider keeping FOYE simply for numbers at this point. ARENAS and FOYE can both combo, and we will need the versitility that each brings to the #'s 1 and 2 slots next year. With FOYE in the house at least one position is adequately stocked numbers-wise. Sounds like MILLER is gone even if we offered a contract. Too high priced anyway. Thanks for the memories, MIKE.

HOWARD should not be offered. His salary is way too high for the medical risk. The WIZARDS should be well aware of those dangers. Without HOWARD, THORNTON will need some serious back-up next year. One from the #30 pick unless we have to pick JOHNSON high, and one from FA are called for.

They may consider keeping OBERTO strictly based on needed numbers for one year. ROME was not built in a day, and this club certainly won't be either. I would not however. Another PF is called for if OBERTO stays, two if he doesn't.

I would expend our lottery pick on COUSINS or FAVORS here and hope they can handle the five or be four, five combos. I don't like COUSINS' frame of mind and that should be a consideration before the draft.

If they are gone, WESLEY JOHNSON for the three slot may be a good pick. A second rounder has to be for the center position in that case. JORDAN from TULSA is a solid pick.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 8, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Rumor has it if Ernie is the GM after Ted buys the team and he doesn't get one of the top 4 picks he is going to trade the 5th pick for AJ and then resign BTH, MM, Howard and Foye?

Ernie's dream roster next year...

starters

Gil PG
Foye SG
MM SF
AJ PF
BTH C

Bench

SL PG
NY SG
AT SF
AB PF
JM C

Maybe that team could win 30 games?


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | April 8, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"Fascinating article on ESPN by Henry Abbott about young players and playing time. More than worth a read."

That was a great read. It should appeal to all those on this board who yell for "more playing time" for Young, McGee, whoever.

Posted by: fansincebullets | April 8, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Actually the top eight on this list are the exact eight that I picked to retain.

Miller comes in at number nine, but my list stops at the top eight.

Sorry for Miller. Adios ole' Chap.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 8, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Arenas, Blatche, Young, McGee and Thornton are signed, sealed and delivered. And that is fine with me. The naysayers should get off Gilbert's back. He will be a major factor in the NBA once again, mark my words.

Q Ross has a player option which he will undoubtedly take. Now if you do some Googling on Q, you will see that earlier this year, the Mavericks were really talking him up as a defensive wing player. He was actually starting for them, as Stevenson did the other night. If he can be our 12th man for 1/3 of DeShawn's salary for a year, this is not terrible.

The only other player on the current roster who is a MUST offer in my mind is Shaun Livingston. He has made remarkable progress in his few weeks here. He is a better PG than any PG in the draft outside of John Wall, and more importantly he is a better PG than anyone else in the NBA who would be available to the Wiz... DJ Augustin, TJ Ford, Ramon Sessions et al. He has been biggest silver lining in the Wizzies' cloudy year

Cases can be made for Foye, Miller and Howard if the price is right. Of the three, Howard has been historically a FAR superior player. And, unlike Miller, he clearly wants to be Wizard. If his knee passes medical clearance and he will take a mid-level deal, I say Howard is our man.

And a case can also be made, for the right price, to retain James Singleton. The man plays hard, does the little things and is a good teammate.

So say goodbye to little Earl, big Fab, the D-Leaguers and the Minnesota Twins. Draft well and sign a decent free agent, then go ahead and make the playoffs much to everyone's surprise next year, Wizzies.

Posted by: khrabb | April 8, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Arenas, Blatche, McGee, Howard, Singleton, Livingston, Young, and Thornton would be the players that I would keep.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 8, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

" .. .Arenas. He's the worst perimeter defender in the NBA, and he can no long finish effectively around the rim. At best, he's a chucker, as Hollinger pointed out today. And he's signed for 4 more years at near-max money. What an albatross for a rebuilding team. We need another Allan Houston rule out of the next CBA. Otherwise, the NBA will destroy fan interest in the nation's eighth largest market.
Posted by: Dellis2

Hollinger:
"No, it's not that kind of all-gunner team, but Arenas still belongs. Actually he rivals Ellis for the captain's spot. Arenas ranks third in the league in usage rate despite a TS% below the league norm at 51.1 percent; he seemed particularly fond of quick 3s off the dribble, attempting nearly six triples a game but hitting only 34.8 percent from long range.

Arenas' 7.2 assists per game were a new career high, but that's damning with faint praise -- he should have been sharing it more given his reduced effectiveness as a scorer."

Posted by: fansincebullets | April 8, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

80% want Andray Blatche back?

That just proves that the only people more stupid than those still running the Wizards are the people still rooting for them.

Yea. Let's start a new team with "Agent Zero" and his sidekick "The Big Cancer". Hey! When does Jay Williams get out of prison?!


Kevin Olson
Manassas, VA

Posted by: noslok | April 8, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse


None of the above!

Posted by: hessone | April 8, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

After going through another major disappointment season, major changes are on the horizon, and rightfully so. Shaun Livingston, JaVale McGee, Nick Young, and James Singleton are definitely keepers. Mike Miller is just a plain loser; every team he's on, they lose, and lose badly. As good of a shooter he is, he just doesn't take enough shots (a waste of talent and ability). Why doesn't Flip play Nick Young more is beyond me. Ernie needs to go. I hope new ownership seriously consider replacing him. He's the reason for the Wizs having disappointment years.

Posted by: sheppard1 | April 8, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

The only way this franchise moves forward is that Ernie and Flip are shown the door. Ernie sunk this team's fortune's by getting rid of Eddie Jordan and making some bonehead moves(letting Mason go, giving Gil a stupid contract,giving AJ way too much money)and then he compound's all of the beforementioned mistakes by hiring an inexperienced coach(Tapscott) like i said this franchise would rue the day they fired EJ and that has come to fruition(i love it when i'm right) but i digress, the person they need to hire is Avery Johnson this franchise need's a no-nonsense head coach someone who won't let AB("the serial skirt chaser") run amok. Avery Johnson won't allow the inmate formaly known as Gilbert Arenas to play "Doc Holiday" on plane rides after the team gets blown out and he'll be able to impart some wisdom on Shaun Livingston(if they can retain him) about the PG position. The smartest thing Ted Leonsis can do after he sign's the transfer of ownership papers is to fire Ernie and Flip and hire Avery Johnson.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 8, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I agree with most of the poll results, but am surprised two-thirds voted to have Gilbert back given the (unlikely) alternative, which is for this franchise to rid itself of a ridiculous contract with a troublesome, no-defense playing, much-dimminshed athlete who hasn't played significant NBA minutes in two years. Gilbert at half the price, sure.

I see those drafts picks and get very nervous Grunfeld is going to package them for some overpriced, fading "super star."

Posted by: jweber1 | April 8, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I just have to comment on Mike Miller's desire to play on a winning team.
It's the same comment given by Jamison and Butler.

The three of them got the bulk of the minutes when they were here. They also represented three of the top four salaries on the team. They also were three of five most experienced players on the team.

Yet, the team consistently underperformed and lost.

If winning is that desirable, why weren't the three of them good enough to win here?

That kind of attitude from your best players is why this team couldn't win.

The losing wasn't their fault.

Poor defensive effort wasn't their fault.

No control over the locker room wasn't their fault.

All three are just support players, who lack the ability lead anything.

No wonder the team fell apart once Gil got injured.

Posted by: bozomoeman | April 8, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

LarryinClinton, Your eight match my eight. You know a little somethin' somethin'....LOL

Posted by: garrybrown | April 8, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

While I fully realize you have to have an adequate roster numbers wise, the idea of rebuilding is to clean house as we did at the trading deadline. Therefore, to vote to keep 8 players on a team that can't win a damn thing is preposterous.

It appears we are stuck with GA for at least a season. Let's hope his explosion to the rim and consistency on his shot returns after over a year removed from his surgeries. It seemed to me his first step quickness was still there which is somewhat of a good sign. He just couldn't finish anymore.

Blatche has shown he is a legit starter and is coachable at least as far as on court performance is concerned. Off the court or on the bench is another story altogether, which means if you can get good value in a trade, he should not be untouchable. He is probably at an all-time high value wise at the moment.

Javale McGee is still just raw potential with a conditioning problem (asthma) as we just learned recently. Lovely! But still a good back up big.

Singleton, I like as a hustle/energy guy off the bench. He's a Michael Ruffin with a slightly better all-around game.

Livingston, I try to sign for a decent price as a high quality back up PG. Somehow, I think he ditches the team that gave him a real chance to get back in the league and finds a better situation for himself as far as money and winning is concerned. Don't know if he finds a better spot for playing time though.

Finally, AT is signed for next season so obviously he'll be around. There is a lot to like about him but he kills ball movement and is the definition of a chucker.

That's 5 players. I could care less about anyone else currently on the roster. Gee was worth a flyer, but he is obviously gone now. NY's option may have been picked up, but I'm tired of him. He is just adequate at best and it is probably best for him and the team for a change of scenery. 16 pts, 0 assts, 0 rebounds, and very little hustle in a good game does nothing for me. We've seen the 5 real promising games a year routine for 3 seasons now. Bye!

Let's pray for luck in the lottery, one decent FA, and the remaining roster can be our other draft picks and other young players. REBUILD!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"like i said this franchise would rue the day they fired EJ and that has come to fruition(i love it when i'm right)"

Complete BS! No surprise coming from you. There may be problems, but it had nothing to do with coaching i.e. FS. It had everything to do with a team that got tired of playing together on the court when finally healthy, injuries, and a little gun play. Did Philadelphia rue the day they hired EJ??? He is about to be canned again...lol. A career 44% winning percentage coach still losing. No surprise there or the fact he took over a good defensive squad and made them pathetic defensively.

Your love affair with Avery Johnson is also absurd. Beside the fact nobody has hired him as a coach in two years, he took over a well-oiled machine (thus won) in Dallas and quickly wore out his welcome. Somehow, he must be more grating on the players than Stan Van Gundy. If you think he is a good fit for the main personalities on this team, you're smoking some fine stuff. This is not the military where you have to respond and listen to every command just bc. Probably the exact opposite type coach this team needs.

Try again!

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"Avery Johnson won't allow the inmate formaly known as Gilbert Arenas to play "Doc Holiday" on plane rides after the team gets blown out and he'll be able to impart some wisdom on Shaun Livingston(if they can retain him) about the PG position."

Oh really? Avery Johnson has special powers to keep his players from getting into arguments? Wow, maybe we should hire him then. Do you realize how absurd some of your comments sound?

And, the only thing that got SL another chance in the league after he destroyed his knee is his natural "wisdom" at the PG position. Avery Johnson was not close to the PG SL would have been, was, or even still is. Defensively better, perhaps. But, SL is not going to be a defensive stopper anyway at this point except when his superior height bothers the opposing PG.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Only 5 RP, just five?

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 8, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

No!! Rphilli721 he(Avery Johnson) does not have special powers he just commands respect(NBA title as a player w/Spurs)something Flip hasn't done with this team command respect, Avery took the Mavs to the finals has Flip done that? The one thing this team needs is a defensive mindset something they have lacked since the days of Dick Motta(last franchise H/C to win a title) Let you tell it; the inmates(Arenas,Blatche) should run the assylum yeah that'll get em past the first round,LMAO!!. Allow me to share some knowledge with you DEFENSE WIN'S CHAMPIONSIP'S and that is exactly why Avery Johnson needs to come to Washington. Javale McGee needs a coach who played with a talented big man and Coach Johnson played with one of the best Tim Duncan he can help McGee mature at the center position,has Flip or his staff helped McGee this season i think you know the answer to that question. This team has two first round picks in the upcomming draft this June i hope Ted Leonsis doesn't squander this oppourtunity by keeping a coach who allowed this team to run over him and a GM who stood by and watched.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 8, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Larry, that would be 5 players off the current roster. Of course, NY makes 6, but I can't stand him any longer and is a waste of talent. You want to keep all the players currently on the roster that just set the franchise record for consecutive losses??? C'mon. Absurd. This team, obviously, was intended to be and will be a temporary team to get to next season's initial makeover. Might take another fairly bad season to get enough talent to be real competitive unless as I have stated we are lucky enough to get Turner this draft or another almost sure-fire all-star in the draft. Then you consider and may attract a more top tier FA this summer to go along with the picks and AB, GA etc.... Somehow, I doubt this franchise will have such luck.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Why yes, Greg, FS has taken a team to the Finals and been to the CF's 4 times, I believe. So, I guess that just blows your initial uninformed point away. Second, AJ tried to "command" so much respect from his players that he was canned after a very brief coaching stint and hasn't been re-hired since. At least the other love of your life EJ has been re-hired although he has failed miserably as I knew he would as well.

The one thing this team needs now is talent. It's rebuilding! It doesn't need a little general alienating whatever talent that is here or will be here. And, I'm sure AJ is a great big man's coach just bc he played with a couple of great big men. LMAO. If you had said, Larry Brown would be the perfect coach of this rebuilding team then I would be on board. At least that makes sense. A coach with a very solid reputation for teaching and developing teams even if rarely playing young talent(not that FS doesn't have a fairly solid rep in building a team either), but, alas, he's not available. You want a guy who took over a perennial playoff team in their prime and made the finals and then got canned shortly thereafter. Sure, he is a proven great builder of players and teams. He had little to nothing to do with the development of that Dallas team What are you smoking?

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Somehow, I doubt this franchise will have such luck.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 8, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Luck? You are so right. If the WIZARDS didn't have bad luck, they'd have none at all.

Posted by: glawrence007 | April 8, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

With the possible exceptions of Singleton and Livingston (who should only be retained for no more than the minimum or the LLE, and no more than two years, preferably with the second a team option), anyone not already under contract for next year should just be shown the door (which in no way implies that everyone with a contract should be retained, BTW).

With the Wizards having lots of cap room and teams looking to shed salary to get in front on the next CBA and lockout, if they can package Blatche and Young in a deal to a team trying to clear cap space for their own rebuild and looking to roll the dice that Blatche's head won't undue the rest of his body, it's worth considering, as long as they aren't committing to more than 3 years and the player isn't as ancient as KG. A long shot obviously, but it's one of the options their cap situation gives them. Point being, Blatche is an asset whose value could be exploited on the market.

The only player on the roster I wouldn't even consider dealing is McGee, because as inconsistent and lost in the clouds he still seems at times, his combo of size, athleticism, and contract make his potential too to tantalizing to ditch.

But on merit alone, no one has done anything to rate an automatic reservation for next season's party.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 8, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

michael jackson over avery johnson. jackson IS a tough guy and no-nonsense; just listen to him and think abt how he played. avery maby be a no-nonsense guy, but he is also very much a whiner, which is why he got fired. jackson is STILL respected and, coming from nyc is a far better communicator than avery. the fact he hasn't coached before is irrelevant, in my opinion.

Posted by: dcjazzman | April 8, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"michael jackson over avery johnson. jackson IS a tough guy and no-nonsense; "

Plus he can moonwalk and sing as part of the half time show.

Or he could, if he weren't dead.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 8, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

"But on merit alone, no one has done anything to rate an automatic reservation for next season's party."

Very true. Except they have to fill out a roster and they have some guys on cheap contracts and could resign say a Singleton as a low cost hustle guy off the bench. But, yeah, overall there is no reason to keep 7/8 guys from this bunch for next year. No way! Not even AB whose ego and 2 cent brain may now be unmanagable. I would trade him for a top 10/12 pick in a heart beat in this year's draft.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 9, 2010 3:04 AM | Report abuse

resign javaris so he can win back his money

Posted by: jefferu | April 9, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

Michael Jackson...lol. If you intended to say Mark Jackson, I was actually on board with hiring him pre-FS. It made sense at the time with our more veteran squad to hire a more know quantity as coach, but that didn't really work out anyway. It seems he might be a very good coach. But, now, I am fine with FS. I am smart enough to know that this season was not his fault whatsoever.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 9, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the Wiz can take a bye next season. Or a rain check.

John Hollinger invented that dumb PER stat, so we have to take what he says with a few tons of salt.

Arenas actually had a very respectable comeback this year, although it's clear he's not the player he once was, and he knows it. Smart thing would be for him to go to another club and start over. So that's probably not what will happen.

Josh Howard was on a steady decline before the trade, and nothing that's happened since would convince us that he's about to reverse it. It's hard to believe Grunfeld accepted the guy in trade. Suggests he was mostly interested in getting rid of three big contracts, not improving his own club.

Shaun Livingston is a great comeback story out of a Rocky movie. Season before this, I was urging the Wiz to pick up a PG like Steve Blake who could play off the bench and settle the team down when they got rattled. Livingston could definitely fill that role. Unfortunately the team he could have filled it for has been traded.

Mike Miller should go to some team that has at least a distant chance of a title. Oh, wait, that was us.

Posted by: Samson151 | April 9, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

I think it's plain based on their respective PERs that if we just make sure that Nick, Andray, and JaVale get 35 minutes a game and all the shots they want, we'll make the conference finals.

All we have to do is find a coach who thinks that's a good idea. John Hollinger?

Posted by: Samson151 | April 9, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I would trade him [AB]for a top 10/12 pick in a heart beat in this year's draft.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 9, 2010 3:04 AM |

That's quite possibly the single worst suggestion ever posted on this board.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

"if they can package Blatche and Young in a deal to a team trying to clear cap space for their own rebuild and looking to roll the dice that Blatche's head won't undue the rest of his body, it's worth considering, as long as they aren't committing to more than 3 years and the player isn't as ancient as KG."

Name some names please. That scenario is pretty specific, there cant be more than a few situations around the league that fit. Given the contracts AB/NY are on, I'd love to hear the name of the player(s) we should consider a deal like that for.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

the reason i ask is because if AB is playing like this next season, he'll be one of the best contracts in the entire league. Cant see the logic in shipping him off.

Plus, he probably has Odom-itis and could very well play better next year as he pushes for a contract befitting a 6'11" 24pt/8reb PF. His trade value could go higher.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

A lot is going to depend on the lottery and how lucky we get, but odds are that we're going to end up with Favors, Cousins, or the SF from Syracuse.

Blatche has been showcased well to set up a trade. I hope we draft Favors and use Blatche and another asset to secure a talented SG or SF. As kalo_rama mentioned, there's a lot of shuffling that will take place this offseason and we should be in position to benefit from it. However, if we get lucky and land Wall then I think we keep Blatche around another season or make a run at a high profile PF.

I hope they can keep Livingston, but at this point we really have very little to offer him since his minutes will surely go down when Arenas returns and he wouldn't be on a winner with the Wiz next year.

Oberto doesn't seem to be a distraction and can continue to split time next year as a cheap option. I think we may be able to keep Foye without overpaying, which makes him a nice option. I still think Foye has upside that we could benefit from if he were the first guard off the bench.

Obviously, we're keeping AT, which is a good thing and I strongly doubt we'd pick up Howard's options, but if we can get him back at a more reasonable price I'd have no problem with that.

Posted by: jon_quest | April 9, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The Grunfizards were ill-conceived from the get-go. Take a nutjob and me-first guy like Gilbert, team him up with two good players asked to perform beyond their capabilities, and market them collectively as the "big three." Make a bunch of atrocious draft picks to add to the mix. When it doesn't work blame the team's failure on injuries.

The only answer is to blow the whole thing up and start totally from scratch. This would mean getting rid of EG, FS, the entire front office, and all the players.

It's time for a fresh start.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | April 9, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I can understand why people are turned off by Blatche's antics (I am as well) but I don't think there is any better option than to keep him. It's easy as a fan to have a gut reaction of "screw them all, lets starts all over, get rid of everyone!".

And then what? Sign Chris Bosh and make a couple draft picks and within 3 years you'll have a promising team?

You think they can trade Blatche for a another 7 foot dude who can score like him? You think they'll get a great point guard like Chris Paul for him? You think you'll get a high lottery pick that will result in a player that will be guaranteed to be better than him within 2-3 years? You want to trade him for a guy who is not as good but has a great attitude (see C Webb for Mitch Richmond)? You want to just cut him and get nothing after we've spent 5 years developing a 6'10 dude who demands a double team in the low post?

He's a young dude and is obviously a bit of a putz. But he's our 'putz' and I see no reason why it's not possible he'll clean up his immature behavior over time. There are players out there who have way more issues than Blatche has (Ron Artest comes to mind.....). I think Blatche just needs a reality check a couple times a year and a leader on the team like Jamison was to keep him in his place.

Posted by: rock77music | April 9, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I understand Miller at this stage of his career may want to play for a winning team instead of in a rebuilding situation. But Livingston is still young, and he shouldn't be that expensive; if I were EG, I will try to lock him down fast. I think he is the pass-first PG the team has lacking for quite some time, and he has shown that he can score some too, I think he can form a nice tandem with Gil, the way Gil and Hughes used to be.

Posted by: sagaliba | April 9, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

The reason for keeping 7-8 of these guys is quite simple really.

The team actually has been blown up and once you do that you start to rebuild.

The 7-8 guys are actually part of the rebuilding process and it gives you 7 new faces to bring in.

You can't keep blowin it up, for logically if you do you unwittingly stall out your rebuilding process.

And from where I sit eight is about right from this group. Remember, only Blatche, McGee, Young and Arenas are really the only true holdovers.

Singleton, Livingston, Howard, and Thornton would actually be part of the rebuilding process.

Who we add from here, the seven spots is most important along with whether we keep or replace the coach and GM.

How many times do we blow it up and start over? You can't keep starting over.

Remember, it only takes two or three key players with the right mix of others to become quite competitive.

From where I sit those eight players are some prime ingredients and how we mix from here is most important.

To start over with only 2-3 of these players would be senseless in my book.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Keepers:

Blatche – Unless someone offers too much he stays. Who can get in his head?…what could he do if convinced to trade cocktails for carrots and burn off all that damn fat. You can see how the game has slowed down for him in a good way; he really can see a step ahead when interested. Hard to do better for the money.

Young – Though still mentally challenged at times he has shown some consistency of late, particularly on defense. When confident, he can regularly get you 20 at high efficiency.

Livingston – One of the few cases where there is an overwhelming consensus among the posters on here…much gnashing of teeth if he slips away into the night. Outstanding size and point guard skills only tempered by potential his knee could flip backwards again any day now. The reality is that was three years ago and it still seems to be getting stronger every day. If he can stay healthy and continue to regain confidence he could become one of the top point guards in the league. Given where the Wizards are with rebuilding, I personally feel that may have to overpay a little to keep him and should do so.

McGee – Hopefully a little quicker student than Nick Young but no limit to what this kid can do. Not sure what the all time blocks in a game record is but could see JaVale breaking it at some point. Find a trainer this kid clicks with…interview 10 of them to find the one….pay him crazy money to work out and eat with this kid every day over the summer. He is so young and is going to fill out a little more naturally but that can be accelerated. One of the few players in the league capable of still doing things we have not yet already seen.

Thorton – Yes, he is a black hole but I don’t mind if that is going down on the blocks at a 50% clip. Like his attitude…need to balance NY smirking. Relatively young and with good skills.
Singleton – Lunch box guy every team needs, will take minutes given and provide maximum effort.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | April 9, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Walking Papers:

Arenas – I know he will be here.. but in fantasy GM land I move him virtually regardless of short term cost. Just want to move on with no ties to the legacy of the Arenas, Jamison, and Butler period. If both are healthy I pick Livingston as my point guard over Arenas every time.
Boykins – Every time he was in the game it immediately looked like any number of pickup games I personally played in….there was frequently that one crazy over dribbling guy. Just don’t expect to regularly see that in the NBA. Yeah…so moving on…

Crittenton – It’s been so long since I have even seen this guy I am no longer sure I could pick him out of a line up….get it LINE UP! c’mon…it’s just a joke.

Foye – No thanks. Just not enough of anything to keep me interested. Seems like a nice guy and will be a solid role player somewhere else.

Howard – Was pretty excited with what Howard brought for the 5 minutes he was on the court. Just not ready to resign another player who is just beginning rehab of new serious injury, with history of others. Singleton much further along but can’t wait on Howard.

Jackson – NA

Martin – Will probably get an invite to camp and we will see if he can impress there.

Miller – Probably not the right fit for a rebuilding team, sense he is frustrated with his situation and wants to go work with adults.

Oberto – O’ No No

Ross – pass….thanks for playing.

I probably won’t chime in on draft picks until Stern drops his balls. I think next year could turn out to be one of the most enjoyable in some time. Flip has the team playing pretty well right now, minus Orlando, and maybe they are starting to buy in a little. With, brace yourselves….a little lottery luck and a couple of decent FA pickups we may have a fairly entertaining team next year.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | April 9, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

And those of you that want to trade Blatche. You're crazy. There isn't any GM out there worth his salt that is willing to give up anything close to Blatche's value.

If you trade Blatche fan waivers are willing to accept less for him, then waive on you, you will definitely make that trade.

But the last time I checked you are supposed to make trades to make your team better not worse.

Everything we do from hear must be done with the shrewdness of the late Red Auerbach and the sooner Ted signs on hopefully some of these foolish rants like trade Blatche will stop.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

shovetheplanet: Do you actually think fans will sit still for another total "facelift". Season ticketholders will cancel their renwals in droves,there's a way to fix this on the fly but the right coach and GM are imperative. Ted Leonsis revamped the Cap's and turned them into a one of the best teams in the NHL. He could do the same for this franchise, i think getting rid of this GM will be the first step in turning this mess around and bringing in a no-nonsense head coach will send the right message but keeping Flip would be more of the same, personel wise, Gilbert Arenas needs to change his mindset he needs to ask himself what kind of legacy do i want to leave in this league how will my teamates,fans, and opposing players remember me. The fans deserve a winner and playoff bound winner at that, i for one wouldn't be in favor of "starting over".

Posted by: dargregmag | April 9, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I'm sort of with divi on this one Kal. AB's production vs contract makes him a good fit for a rebuilding team like the Wiz. They get to see what he has, but he's not breaking the bank or really restricting other moves. So if they are going to move him, it would have to be for someone they view as a cornerstone piece of the new Wizards. I'm also curious to hear who you think fits that bill.

I'm already on the record as being in favor of trying to get David Lee, and they don't have to trade anything for him. I think if they make an early run at him while NY is still courting bigger and better fish, they have a chance to either land him or force NY's hand, both of which work out for the Wiz.

The one area I do sort of agree with what you're saying is that none of the guys on the roster should be viewed as untouchables. The Wiz need to determine what type of team they want to be, and whether any of the players they have fit into that mold. Certainly Blatche has a lot more value in a trade now than he did two months ago. I just don't know what they should go after for him. His style would fit well in places like Phoenix (esp if they get rid of Amar'e) or NY. Any ideas on who you would like to see them go after if they were to trade AB and / or NY?

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Apparently Gilbert Arenas and Nick Young's contracts have been picked up. I would also retain Andray Blatche, Javale McGee, Al Thornton, Shaun Livingston, and James Singleton. Mike Miller and Josh Howard are 'on the bubble' as far as I'm concerned. The Wizards shouldn't overpay either of them to stay here.

DeMarcus Cousins should be taken if he's still on the board when the Wiz make their selection. He would bring toughness and size to the center position. Whether JaVale or Cousins would be a starter or a backup could be determined during training camp.

We should package Randy Foye, and our 1st round pick that we received from the Cavs, for a veteran power forward to back up Andray Blatche.

Posted by: musicmanjr | April 9, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

dargregmag,
Don't you think we have already started over? Pretty sure reset was punched when Jamison and Butler were shipped out. Arenas may be here by default but in almost every other way we are pretty clearly starting over.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | April 9, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

favors and cousins are putting up 15/10 and 12/8 in college respectively. I don't know that either one has shown me that their game is that much better than AB's at all, but definitely not for the price we're getting him at. Even as the best player on a bad team, you have to think that some of AB's skill set carries over into next season. The draft is a crapshoot every year, and with our organization's history of "slow-cooking" our bigs for 5+ yrs, i'd be hesitant to trade away the only reason for optimism we've had in the past 2 yrs. Regardless of AB's maturity issues, real and perceived, he's killin it right now and really seems like he's getting it mentally. I'd hate to see him go for an unproven commodity, especially at big man.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | April 9, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

dargregmag,
Don't you think we have already started over? Pretty sure reset was punched when Jamison and Butler were shipped out. Arenas may be here by default but in almost every other way we are pretty clearly starting over.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | April 9, 2010 11:10 AM

The_Shadow_Knows,

There is a small distinction here that is being glossed over.

Have we started over, or are we starting over again?

There seems to be some that are saying Start Again, and there are some that are saying, we have already started.

I'm in the already started group. Thats why I list about 8 players that we should keep from when the blow up commenced.

However there is a group that seems to be saying we should blow up again and start with 0 to 2-3 players.

I think that group is clueless. Are you in that clueless group? If so, Why?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

It would be a bit of a reach, but if the Wizards pick slips into the 6-7 range, they should look at the kid Bledsoe who played alongside Wall at KY. He's been overlooked and I would rather see them go that route than someone like Aldritch or Ed Davis.

He doesn't fit in at all in a backcourt with Gilbert...and I don't care. My vision for the Wizards going forward doesn't factor GA in as a building block, just a player and contract to work around until he can be traded or the contract expires. He'll obviously be here for a while, but I think the approach Ted should take is to tell Gil that the Wiz are in a plan to rebuild the franchise and that he can participate if he chooses, but that he is not the focal point. At which point, he will either participate or become Stephon Marbury pt 2.

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

agree 100%, cant make moves based on Gil as the long term anything. Gotta look at him as a hindrance, who turns back into an asset if we get lucky.

to that end, throw livingston an extra year on a deal if that's what locks him up. we have the money and he appears worth it.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

One thing about Gilbert though is maybe he should not be the focal point of our rebuild process going forward.

However, by default he is. We must realize this. In the best case, lets say his game continues back to star level and also his attitude and game awareness improves also. He can't be discounted then.

And also, if we intend on trading him when we can, then the magnitude of his contract and how he plays and his attitude will mean everything for potential suitors.

So like it or not people, Gilbert Arenas is and will be a major focus of this organization going forward whether we want it to be or not.

This isn't close your eyes and Gilbert is gone, poof, no indeed.

Gilbert Arenas will be a major factor of this org' going forward, so get real Gilbert haters.

The way this organization deals with the Gilbert factor will have huge implications for our success going forward.

Somes of you have just got to get real with your posts about Gilbert.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Name some names please. That scenario is pretty specific, there cant be more than a few situations around the league that fit. Given the contracts AB/NY are on, I'd love to hear the name of the player(s) we should consider a deal like that for."


There was nothing specific about it. If I had named names it would have been specific. Since I didn't, I was just speaking in general. See how that works?

As I made quite clear, one of the goals of any such deal (for the other team) would be to clear cap space by trading a player with a bigger/longer deal for Blatche/Young's smaller/shorter ones. This is a deal the Wiz could make because they project to have double-digit millions worth of cap space this summer, meaning they can take back more salary than they trade away, making the relatively small size of Blatche and Young's contracts in no way limiting. Just the opposite, actually. The size of their deals actually opens up the number of possible trade scenarios, given the Wizards cap situation.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

And one other presumed fact about Gilbert that his detractors like to bandy about. It is said that Gilbert must always control the ball to be effective and thereby a true point like Livingston would be ineffective with Gilbert.

People, that is a bunch of malarkey. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, both had to realize that they had to trust other players with the ball in order for they themselves to take their own game and the team to the next level.

Gilbert Arenas, if he ever wants to be considered as a prime player again must learn the same lesson.

There are some that say he can't do it.

I BEG TO DIFFER.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

"Any ideas on who you would like to see them go after if they were to trade AB and / or NY?"

Not really. I'm not really in the habit of playing armchair GM. But my point was and remains, as you said, that no one on this team is untouchable, and given the likely uptick in Blatche's profile from his recent play (cosmetic as the numbers may have been), the size of his contract, and the very real possibility that the Wiz may want to undergo a full housecleaning, a deal like the one I described provides a very reasonable avenue to perhaps get more proven talent around which to base a rebuilding project.

And I remain wary of David Lee. I have no doubt he's a good player who can help any team, but I also thing his numbers were inflated by playing under D'Antoni's system and that any team that shells out max/near-max money for him is going to have some buyer's remorse. On a team that actually plays defense, acknowledges the existence of the shot clock, and has someone other than him even attempting to rebound he's putting up 20 and 10. And his rep as a post defender is highly overrated.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Make that: "he's not putting up 20 and 10."

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

As I made quite clear, one of the goals of any such deal (for the other team) would be to clear cap space by trading a player with a bigger/longer deal for Blatche/Young's smaller/shorter ones. This is a deal the Wiz could make because they project to have double-digit millions worth of cap space this summer, meaning they can take back more salary than they trade away, making the relatively small size of Blatche and Young's contracts in no way limiting. Just the opposite, actually. The size of their deals actually opens up the number of possible trade scenarios, given the Wizards cap situation.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 12:31 PM

Makes sense and is reasoned very well, but it dosen't have any justifiable reason for putting Andray Blatche in that scenario.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"a deal like the one I described provides a very reasonable avenue to perhaps get more proven talent around which to base a rebuilding project."

aside from the fact the deal you describe mentions not a single player nor substantive option to consider, it's a very reasonable avenue to pursue.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Another possibility to consider:

If one or more of the marquee FA names switches teams, what do their old teams do? Most of them won't have the cap room to go out and lure another big ticket FA right away to fill the void. Do they soldier on with whatever's left, trying to plug the whole with an MLE signing? Or do they decide that rather than spin their wheels in mediocrity (esp. with a lower cap, new CBA, and lockout looming) that now might be a good time to shed some salaries and look towards starting fresh? Because, after all, now that their franchise guy is gone they're probably gonna stink anyway, so why not save some money in the process (kind of like what the Wiz did).

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Again, what team is going to give up more proven talent for Andray Blatche.

Just where do you think Andray Blatche rates in this League.

Lets be general, bottom half or top half. Sometimes I think you people forget that basketball is a team sport.

On the right Team Andray Blatche would be damn near unstoppable. He's nearly unstoppable on this Team.

Do you folks that realize that Blatche has trade value because now he is a very good player.

Those of you that think any team is giving up anything close to what Blatche's real value is are just dreamers.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | April 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Why is everybody voting for Thornton? He's terrible. I don't know how old he is, and if he's still young maybe he has some potential. But he's not ever going to light it up in this league. Not enough game.

Posted by: Matte | April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Makes sense and is reasoned very well, but it dosen't have any justifiable reason for putting Andray Blatche in that scenario."

Sure it does. but, as usual, you just choose to ignore anything that doesn't suit your limited perspective. no real shock there.

"aside from the fact the deal you describe mentions not a single player nor substantive option to consider, it's a very reasonable avenue to pursue."

Responding without reading again, I see.

I wasn't describing a "deal." A "deal" involves specific players. I was describing a trade scenario. A very plausible one, given the Wizards situation. Will that scenario ever result in a "deal"? Hell if I know. But given the Wizards' circumstance, it's a scenario that they could very well consider exploring. The fact that I didn't take your bait and make some pointless fantasy trade suggestion doesn't change any of that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm not baiting you, just pointing out that your scenario is so wholly unrealistic you cant put a single name, draft pick, or option to it.

"perhaps get more proven talent around which to base a rebuilding project."

So you in exchange for AB, you want young proven nba talent to build around. Try as I might, I cant come up with a single player who fits that description that isnt already being built around somewhere else. And neither can you nor anyone else posting....because it's not a realistic scenario when considering ABs production, age, and contract. He's untouchable this offseason, along with Mcgee as you mentioned. Everybody else can be dealt

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

And I remain wary of David Lee.... And his rep as a post defender is highly overrated.

Posted by: kalo_rama

I hear ya. Not so much concerned about his numbers as his style of play. I'll have to do more reading on his rep as a defender and maybe try to catch one of the few Knick games remaining. Not sure if he deserves the max contract either, but he is the kind of guy I'd be looking for (there may be younger, cheaper options). And I *think* he fits in with AB and JM if they are still going to be here, filling in some of the things they are missing.

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

i thought the knicks made it clear to Lee they werent ever going to pay him for reals. Assuming their plan is Lebron + another player Lebron tells them to sign...Lee is gone.

If they crap out on the big FAs, then they do something questionable like max him out for the fans.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

....because it's not a realistic scenario when considering ABs production, age, and contract. He's untouchable this offseason, along with Mcgee as you mentioned. Everybody else can be dealt
Posted by: divi3

It's not wholly unrealistic. You never know what teams are going to do. In Minnesota for example, there's a debate over whether Al Jefferson and Kevin Love can play together, so they might consider moving one or the other, and AB, as a 4 who can play on the perimeter or in the box, might be a better fit. I'm not advocating that particular move, I'm just saying there may be moves out there similar to that that make sense.

The other possible style of deal that might make sense involves using AB as part of the old sign-and-trade, where the star gets a little more cash out of the deal and team trading him gets talent in return. Again, short of a LeBron or D-Wade or someone of that stature, not sure there's a deal out there that makes sense, just saying it's not wholly unrealistic that a deal could evolve where it makes sense to trade AB.

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

i thought the knicks made it clear to Lee they werent ever going to pay him for reals. Assuming their plan is Lebron + another player Lebron tells them to sign...Lee is gone.

If they crap out on the big FAs, then they do something questionable like max him out for the fans.

Posted by: divi3

Yep. One school of thought though, is that if Lee is the guy you want, you hit him with a big offer early, which puts a bit of pressure on the Knicks if Lee is willing to sign early. The Knicks get caught between trying to put together a LeBron + 1 scenario and making sure they don't lose Lee if LeBron + 1 doesn't work out. So either you get Lee, or you make the Knicks commit cap space to keeping him, which reduces the competition for the Wiz to sign someone else. Not sure it would work, but it's a tact they could take if they identify Lee as someone they want.

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

my point is we're all fairly informed about various players and their contracts. So much so that you and I both know already we are not getting Kevin Love for AB, especially considering they'd be trading 1 PF for another in the hopes he somehow plays better with Al. And Al Jeff is owed another $42mill, how does that match up salary-wise? Are we talking trading Gil in this deal?

I know you didnt mean that deal was "the one"...I'm just saying the fact you know it isnt as you type it proves the point I'm trying to make.

Maybe we could swing Amare for AB, but there's no reason to make that deal given what Amare would have to paid, his history of malcontentess, and AB being 23 and playing on the cheap for 2 more years.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I know you didnt mean that deal was "the one"...I'm just saying the fact you know it isnt as you type it proves the point I'm trying to make.
Posted by: divi3

Not really. I was trying to make a generic point that there are cases where teams are willing to give up talented, young players. Some times it's just a question of style-of-play. Attempting to debunk one potential trade (and failing, but more on that in a sec) doesn't negate the possibility of one happening at all.

Again, not advocating for the Al Jefferson deal, but there is an easy way to make it work. Pick up Howard's option for next year. Trade his $11 mil plus Blatche for Jefferson and whatever spare parts you need to make it work. Why would Minnesota does this? If they think that Jefferson and Love can't play together, because they both need to be in the same area, they ship out AJeff for AB, who can be in the post, or on the perimeter, in potentially a 20/10 like Jefferson, is a better passer than Jefferson and they have someone to fill the defensive / rebounding role in Love. In addition, they are able to ditch Howard next year, and save a ton of cap space. Maybe the Wiz do it because they want a more physical post player.

To repeat again, I am not advocating for this deal, just pointing out that there are deals out there and ways to make them work.

Posted by: ts35 | April 9, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

well, that scenario is technically possible though what i was looking for was a suggestion from anybody about a trade we should make involving AB. Though I suppose some would be all aboard for an Al Jeff era.

anyways, i'm just giving it to kal due to his tendency to berate others suggestions while putting forth platitudes about acquiring "talented young players to build around" yet never hitching his wagon to anything concrete.

Posted by: divi3 | April 9, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

A one legged man ain't no good in basketball, you're voting for [3]SORRY.OR A A&& KICKING CONTEST, he can't win.

Posted by: maejude | April 9, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Blatche sucks and can easily be replaced by any of the talented PFs entering this year's draft.

Posted by: ryjufox3 | April 9, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"Ted Leonsis revamped the Cap's and turned them into a one of the best teams in the NHL"

Once again you reside in left field with your points. Ted Leonsis revamped the Cap's, but it took 4/5 seasons AND he kept the previous regime to do so, which runs contrary to your assertion that he should come in clean house and flowers will grow in the garden the next day.

@Divi,

Yeah, trading a knucklehead for a lottery pick in what is considered a very strong draft is a terrible idea. 10-12 might be a little late, but 6-7-8 a team might go for what they see in AB and give one of those picks up. AB's contract probably will keep us from moving him, but I see more of a headache than a long term solution in him. Can you fathom AB being a main cog on a serious playoff team let alone a contending one? I surely can't. So why not get an equal talent with perhaps more of an upside while his stock is high.

Posted by: rphilli721 | April 9, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"Can you fathom AB being a main cog on a serious playoff team let alone a contending one? I surely can't. So why not get an equal talent with perhaps more of an upside while his stock is high."

Posted by: rphilli721

Agreed.

Blatche is a good player, but that's it. He has as many negatives as positives.

Posted by: fansincebullets | April 9, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Arenas
Blatche
Howard
Livingston
McGee
Singleton
Thornton

rest of em I don't want to see in a Wiz uniform next season. Miller and Foye didn't show me anything indicating their worth resigning...Boykins is a dribbling nuisance...Young is just not going to pan out and needs a new scene...Oberto and the rest are all garbage.

Posted by: blackman1 | April 10, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Unless trades are made, these are your Wizards next year: Arenas, Blatche, Thornton, Young, McGee, and Ross.

Of those, you'd like to get rid of Ross and Arenas but you can't. Ross has a player option which he will likely exercise, and "Albatross Arenas" salary makes him untradeable. Signing Livingston should be your #1 priority. Then Howard, Singleton, and possibly Miller (In that order and at the right price).

That said, the Wiz will probably fail to sign Livingston (see A. Gee), and if so Ernie should be fired. Although Ernie has made "some" good moves, he's had his share of mishaps. Everything from giving a max contract to a no-defense, shoot-first, gimpy-knee Arenas, to trading away a #5 pick with nothing to show for it now, to failure to draft Dejaun Blair for 850K and instead choosing to sign a 2.1 M old Oberto.

I disagree with people who say Saunders should be fired. The fact that the team is competitive in these last few games with guys that "never started" on an NBA team (vice Miller) is a testament to his coaching ability.

Posted by: WantUnbiasedNews | April 10, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing most agree and have it right with no particular order to consider. Why didn't Ernie and Flip see this. FIRE ERNIE AND FLIP. DO NOT LET THESE CLOWNS MAKE THE DECISIONS.
arenas
blatche
mcgee
singleton
young
thorton
livingston if price and attitude is right
free agent
free agent
draft pick
draft pick
ross because of salary
project player
project player
project player

Posted by: rnbrown4 | April 11, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Arenas at the 2..... I would LOVE to see that happen for real & on a consistent basis.... & We DEF need a center!!!!!

*yes, I renewed my season tix & I am looking forward to next season!!!*

Posted by: 2StepsAway | April 11, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Put Flip on the do not come back list, and he can take Gilbert "I am allegic to Defense" Arenas with him.

Posted by: fin6 | April 14, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

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