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Greivis Vasquez works out for Washington Wizards

Former Maryland star Greivis Vasquez was one of six players to work out for the Wizards on Monday. Maryland beat writer Steve Yanda was there, and has more on the workout at Terrapins Insider.


By Camille Powell  |  May 31, 2010; 2:59 PM ET
 
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I guess this means we won't be spending money to try and sign Shaun Livingston. Gilbert moves to SG and Grevis becomes our back-up PG perhaps.

Posted by: closg | May 31, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

most interesting aspect to his workout was Gil and EG on either side of Ted. Pariah no more!

Posted by: divi3 | May 31, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Divi3, you know you shouldn't reporting that Gilbert actually might on the inside track to Wizards stardom again.

I like it. But there are others convinced that Gilbert is worth a plug nickel to this organization.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 31, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

isn't worth a plug nickel

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 31, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

plugged

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 31, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

plugged

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | May 31, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"most interesting aspect to his workout was Gil and EG on either side of Ted. Pariah no more!

Posted by: divi3 | May 31, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse "

And so was Portis with Snyder.

Never good for management to cozy up with the players.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 1, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Never good for management to cozy up with the players.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 1, 2010 12:02 AM

That statement bites both ways. Hall of Famers have been great friends, leaders, coaches, and managers to their players.

Red A. for one. In fact, one might argue more successfully quite the opposite to your statement.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 1, 2010 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Hey Mike. You look hot in that suit. Time for you to post a new picture. Did I say uhh' uhh' popopopost.

LOL.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | June 1, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

This is definitely not a Portis - Snyder situation. Gil's not going behind anybody's back trying complaining about teammates.

This is the begining of the "Resurection" for Gil in DC.

Posted by: zxhoya | June 1, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

This is definitely not a Portis - Snyder situation. Gil's not going behind anybody's back complaining about teammates.

This is the begining of the "RESURECTION" for Gil in DC, can't wait.

Posted by: zxhoya | June 1, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

" guess this means we won't be spending money to try and sign Shaun Livingston. Gilbert moves to SG and Grevis becomes our back-up PG perhaps.Posted by: closg"

I don't know about Greivis, but I'm pretty sure we're not getting Livingston.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

We need to try to get some big men with our picks. If you gamble, gamble big.

Re-sign Foye on the cheap and let him come off the bench at backup pg. If we get an injury, Gil can always step in at that spot.

This team needs a big man who plays big...maybe an Oberto type but with some athletic ability.

Posted by: original_mark | June 1, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

It was interesting to see the current 'Mount Rushmore' of Wizards hoops lined up at the rail (throw Flip in as Abe Lincoln), chatting and laughing.

Saw this in Chad Ford's first round bubble piece and it gave me pause

"Five teams -- the Wizards, Nets, Timberwolves, Grizzlies and Thunder -- have multiple first-round picks. Most likely, they'll want to stash a player overseas for a few years"

With the talent that should be available at the end of the first, and with the current state of the team, including financially, are the Wiz really in a situation where stashing a player overseas makes sense?

The only way it makes sense to me is if Ted hacks into D Wade's T Mobile phone during the LeBron / Wade / Bosh / et al free agent summit and convinces them that the Wizards are their best destination.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Matt Barnes is now a FA, exactly the kind of player Wizards need though he's expressed a preference for staying in Orlando

Posted by: divi3 | June 1, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5235774

There's the article I referenced from Chad Ford. It reads pretty much as a primer for guys the Wizards will be looking at with their late first and early second.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"Matt Barnes is now a FA, exactly the kind of player Wizards need though he's expressed a preference for staying in Orlando"

Matt Barnes is NOT the kind of player this team needs. He's an average 3 point shooter who plays so so on the ball d. Sounds like a light skinned deshawn stevenson to me. And off the court, factor in who he's engaged to (the sister of Gil's wife) and the Wiz shouldn't even think twice bout that bama. I'd take Josh Howard back at about the same price it would cost for Barnes. Bad knee and all.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 1, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Matt Barnes is now a FA, exactly the kind of player Wizards need though he's expressed a preference for staying in Orlando

Posted by: divi3

I would be very surprised if he's not still in Orlando next year. They need guys like him and won't have a lot of other ways to get them.

I like him a lot as a player, toughness, defense, can hit an open shot, but imo, I think he's more valuable to the Magic right now as a glue / dirty work guy than he would be to the Wiz. He's the kind of guy you fill in around great talent. The Wiz are still trying to acquire that level of great talent.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Tuesdays workout group...until Mike gets a new thread up.

Eric Hayes, G, Maryland, 6’4, 180 lbs.
* Averaged a career-high 11.3 ppg (career-best .502 fg%) as a senior at Maryland in 2009-10.

Ryan Wittman, G/F, Cornell, 6’7, 215 lbs.
* Was the leading scorer on Cornell’s Sweet Sixteen entrant with an average of 17.5 ppg in 2009-10.

Tiny Gallon, F, Oklahoma, 6’9, 300 lbs.
* In 30 games as a freshman at Oklahoma in 2009-10, averaged 10.3 points (.547 fg%) and 7.9 rebounds per game.

Reggie Holmes, G, Morgan State, 6’4, 180 lbs.
* Led Morgan State as a senior in 2009-10 with a 21.5 ppg average.

Dexter Pittman, C, Texas, 6’10, 290 lbs.
* Played four years at Texas and averaged a career-high 10.4 points (.654 fg%) and 5.9 rebounds as a senior in 2009-10.

Jerome Randle, G, California, 5’10 172 lbs.
* Led California with 18.6 points per game as a senior in 2009-10, and connected on 139-149 (.933) free throw attempts.
http://www.washingtonwizardsblog.com/

Posted by: closg | June 1, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"With the talent that should be available at the end of the first, and with the current state of the team, including financially, are the Wiz really in a situation where stashing a player overseas makes sense? posted by ts35"

That's a good point. This is a deep draft and there are more choices in the second than in the few years. Still, there are three or four players in Europe who the Wiz might take a spin on. Assuming Kevin Seraphin is already gone:

Tim Olbrecht, 22, PF 6'11", 235 -- athletic big man.

Alexey Shved, 22, 6'7" PG - same size as Livingston, very adept passer.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Geez, I hope they clear the rest of the guys off the court when Gallon and Pittman go at it. That's like King Kong vs Godzilla on the court.

I like the size that both bring, and which the Wiz need on their bench. But both present big-time concerns with their weight issues and college production. I *think* Pitmann's weight issues are behind him. People look and see a 300 lb'er, but he was around 400 lbs last year. If he can keep getting his weight down and his conditioning up, he could be a good guy off the bench. Gallon at least showed a bit more production in college, but hasn't shown a consistency propensity for using his heft.

I'd consider either with the second round pick, but they'd have to show me something before I'd use a first rounder on them.

We're starting to see guys come in in dribs and drabs, but I'm still waiting for a few more of the more touted guys who might be available at the end of the first.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

i agree we should draft guys who are going to come in and compete immediately, rather than wanna-be Dirks who may or may not arrive and most likely wont amount to much anyway.

the thing i like about Barnes is more him imparting that type of hustle and attitude to our youngs than it is him actually helping us win some future playoff series. For instance it would be great if gani lawal ended up that tenacious, or if AB picked up a little mean streak. Wiz are such a soft team outside of Singleton

Posted by: divi3 | June 1, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

That's a good point. This is a deep draft and there are more choices in the second than in the few years. Still, there are three or four players in Europe who the Wiz might take a spin on. Assuming Kevin Seraphin is already gone:

Tim Olbrecht, 22, PF 6'11", 235 -- athletic big man.

Alexey Shved, 22, 6'7" PG - same size as Livingston, very adept passer.

Posted by: Samson15

Stashing players overseas is usually about either getting a player's NBA rights before other teams are aware or before the buyout is reasonable / the player is willing to come, etc (The Spurs method) or acquiring talent but putting off having to pay a guaranteed contract for it for a year or two (Cap reasons).

I don't see any reason they should stash a player for financial reasons. If it's about talent, I guess that's another thing, but would they rather have Olbrecht or Shved (The Russian Rubio?) in a year or two, or a Lawal, Robinson, Jones, Alabi, Jordan, Warren, Ebanks or whoever now.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I can't see stashing a foreign player for a year or two.
The Wizzies need immediate help. Use the picks on guys that are hungry & can come in and compete NOW!

Posted by: VBFan | June 1, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz need to do anything possible to put fans back in the seats. My ticket rep was practically begging me to buy a partial season ticket pass before the draft lottery. Lots of fans have already made the decision not renew but Wall may win a few back. I'd be surprised if the Wiz didn't pick Vasquez at 30th if he's available just because of the fan appeal. Same reason they took Dixon in the first round back in 2002 when he was rated a low 1st rounder or even a 2nd rounder.

The Wiz know they will be a 20-25 win team next year even with Wall and they won't be able to get any type of marquee free agent to join the circus here until Arenas is gone. No way a Bosch, Johnson, or Stoudemire will come to a non-contender when they can get the money to play in NY or Chicago.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 1, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

i'm unclear on how stashing a guy overseas can help if the player turns out to be good. Wont the team he plays for keep him? Tiago Splitter earns almost $3mill/yr in europe, but the Spurs could only pay him $865k to come here next season. Why would he decide to take such a pay cut?

Posted by: divi3 | June 1, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

i'm unclear on how stashing a guy overseas can help if the player turns out to be good. Wont the team he plays for keep him? Tiago Splitter earns almost $3mill/yr in europe, but the Spurs could only pay him $865k to come here next season. Why would he decide to take such a pay cut?

Posted by: divi3

It's definitely harder now that European salaries are better for middle to low end NBA-caliber players. But for most, the dream is still to play in the NBA against Kobe and LeBron, etc.

But for guys like Juan Carlos and others (Arvidis Sabonis going way back) they'd rather play overseas. Or guys like Josh Childress, who made a lot more cash than he could in the NBA.

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm not hating on Matt Barnes. I just don't think he's a good fit here. He comes off as a good defender but its the system he played in that makes him a better defender. He's a good on the ball defender that has the 2 time defensive mvp behind him. So he can afford to play extra aggressive cause if he gets beat, Dwight got his back. But he doesn't have the defensive makeup of a bruce bowen or even a Deshawn Stevenson for that matter. Which means that those type of players carry their defense with them. Matt Barnes adapts to what's around him. In Golden State, He was just like the rest of them. Passive defense and shooting soon as he touched the ball. So if that holds true, he'll adapt to what is around him here. Which right now is selfish stat grabbers who care more about partying than winning.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 1, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a lot of confidence in the Wizard's ability to develop a bunch of rookies. At least not until they get a D-League team closer to home. Stashing a player overseas makes sense if the team gets more than three picks this year.


And I think the Spurs can pay Splitter more than what's on the rookie scale this year.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 1, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"I like him a lot as a player, toughness, defense, can hit an open shot, but imo, I think he's more valuable to the Magic right now as a glue / dirty work guy than he would be to the Wiz. He's the kind of guy you fill in around great talent. The Wiz are still trying to acquire that level of great talent."

Posted by: ts35 | June 1, 2010 11:12 AM

Exactly. He's basically Deshawn Stevenson of a few years ago, when the Wizards first got him: a spot up shooting defensive hustler. Guys like that need a high level of talent around them to play off of. We saw how Stevenson fell off the map when injuries to the big thee made it tougher for him to slip under opposing defenses' radar. Besides, Barnes is the kind of guy that good, established teams like to have around. Unless the Wiz overpay him, odds are that he'll be getting offers from teams with a better immediate future than Washington.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 1, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Barnes is the kind of guy that good, established teams like to have around. Unless the Wiz overpay him, odds are that he'll be getting offers from teams with a better immediate future than Washington.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 1, 2010 1:08 PM


Thanks for the back up. Thought I was the only one who saw through Barnes.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 1, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"i'm unclear on how stashing a guy overseas can help if the player turns out to be good. Wont the team he plays for keep him?"

They would sure try. You'd consider 'stashing' a player who was young and green and who you thought might eventually develop into a legit NBA regular. For a foreign player of that type, Europe is probably a better option than the D-League. Olbrecht and Shved are both promising but green, and Shved is physically immature. Neither is as good a prospect as Kevin Seraphin, who's 20, or Donatas Motiejunas, who's 19, but those guys will probably be gone by the end of the first.

Though a guy like Splitter can do well in Europe, the ceiling for a real NBA star is much higher, including endorsements.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm under the impression that a lot of NBA types were very surprised to see Matt Barnes mesh so well in Orlando. He's undersized at PF and doesn't shoot well enough for a full-time job on the wing. He had a great run in the first playoff this year, but like DeShawn he has an erratic history from the arc (career avg. 33%, but that includes 32% last season and 29% at Golden State). He's a terrific leaper but so are a lot of tweeners in the NBA. Orlando's something of an anomaly because Dwight Howard is so dominant inside and so inept away from the basket, which opens things up for a determined role player like Barnes.

Barnes does turn the ball over a fair amount, and also picks up fouls.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Barnes has been on 7 teams in 7 years so obviously he has limitations that are who can well known. I just like his grit and tenacity as a defender who can check 2-5 (depending on matchup)...something Deshawn could never do. Debrick was also taking over 9 shots a night for several seasons, making his streaky shooting even more an issue.

At any rate, not suggesting we break down his door with bags of cash....just saying that TYPE of player would be good to have on such a soft team

Posted by: divi3 | June 1, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Barnes averaged 7 shots a game in Orlando, in only 26 minutes per. He played in 81 but only started 58. He's not shy. He shot more in Phoenix, but then everyone does.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

He makes less than Olberto, no wonder he's always pissed off

Posted by: divi3 | June 1, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Random comments on the above:

- I think Barnes is twice the athlete (and taller) than DSteve ever was. IMO, he's exactly the type of player-type we would need at the 3 to complement a Wall-Arenas backcourt (ie, strong D, versatile, and hits 3's). However, he's not super-good so, even though he's the right type, we may do better elsewhere. Although they are much more expensive, I think Prince or Ariza would be great fits there.
- Also, I agree that Barnes would get comparable offers from teams that are closer to success and thus would not come to DC
- I am not sure why everyone assumes we're not getting Livingston back. IMO, he's the ideal first guard off the bench to backup Wall/Arenas -- he could play with either, provide a different look, etc. Also, I don't at all know why people think he's going to get such amazing offers. He averaged maybe 12 and 5 as a starter for a 2-15 team (approximately). Plus, half the teams in the league drafted a starting PG last year and all of them are younger and healthier than Livingston. Plus, is he that much stronger of a prospect than Ramon Sessions who got NO offers last year and thus had to join the already-overloaded-in-PG's T-wolves at a crap salary? Sessions, again, was younger and healthier. Plus, Livingston had ZERO double digit assist games. He's tall but a bit limited. I would love him as the 6th man, and I think it would be a good gig for him. All I'm saying is that Livingston leaving is not a sure thing (although I admit that he hasn't sounded particularly pro-Wiz, especially as compared to Mike Miller)
- As for stashing overseas, I think Chad Ford has a habit of connecting a lot of dots that simply aren't there. I don't think the Wiz have ANY desire to stash a player overseas. Leonsis has said he wants more young players. Plus, they are looking for a culture change. I expect we'll see 4 rookies on the team next year.

Posted by: Urnesto | June 1, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"This is definitely not a Portis - Snyder situation. Gil's not going behind anybody's back trying complaining about teammates.

This is the begining of the "Resurection" for Gil in DC.

Posted by: zxhoya | June 1, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse "

Hmmm, I guess you forgot the incidents with Kwame and Caron courtesy of Gilby.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 1, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"Looks like Barnes averaged 7 shots a game in Orlando, in only 26 minutes per. He played in 81 but only started 58. He's not shy. He shot more in Phoenix, but then everyone does.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 1, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse "

LOL!

If Barnes signs here, which I don't care if he does, then both his fiance and Gilby's fiance (sisters) can be reunited.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 1, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

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