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After taking John Wall, Wizards seeking experience

With the NBA draft a few hours away, the Wizards are still working the phones in an effort to acquire a pick in the late lottery or teens to pair with No. 1 overall selection John Wall.

Oklahoma City's shrewd trade to acquire the 18th pick and Daequan Cook from Miami in exchange for the 32nd pick on Wednesday didn't necessarily affect the Wizards' plans to move up. Miami was among several teams with which the Wizards have spoken, but several higher draft choices remain available for the taking. The Wizards are also among a handful of teams attempting to improve their position, so the competition is steep.

The Wizards aren't targeting one player in particular, but are considering trading up for several frontcourt players projected to go between picks six and 15 - Kentucky junior forward Patrick Patterson, Nevada sophomore forward Luke Babbitt, Baylor junior center Ekpe Udoh, Kansas junior center Cole Aldrich, Butler sophomore swingman Gordon Hayward and possibly Georgetown sophomore big man Greg Monroe, under the unlikely chance that he slips out of the top 10. Udoh is reportedly headed to Golden State at sixth, but nothing is ever set until the choice is actually made.

With little separation between players slated to go between 20 and 30, the Wizards aren't looking to make a huge move to advance only a few spots, according to a source with knowledge of the team's thinking. They likely don't have the assets to possibly move into the top 10, with only six players under contract for next season - Gilbert Arenas, Andray Blatche, Nick Young, JaVale McGee, Al Thornton and Quinton Ross - and several questions surrounding many of those players.

Picks No. 30 and 35 are arguably the best assets the Wizards possess to make a move up the draft. Trading a future first-round pick is also another option, though much more risky given the unpredictable direction a franchise can take. The Wizards' primary objective is to draft an experienced player because "young guys will have to play right away for the Wizards," the source said.

Although the Wizards' conversation about dealing Arenas to Orlando didn't go very far, there still is a possibility that teams may become more serious about acquiring him after the free agency period reaches a lull and the big-money teams that whiffed get desperate for a big name. But that's not the focus today, with the franchise looking to add a new 19-year-old building block and some possible reinforcements.

By Michael Lee  |  June 24, 2010; 12:20 PM ET
Categories:  NBA draft  
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Comments

C'mon Ernie, find that deal so we can draft a young F/C to play alongside Wall.

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | June 24, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

It's pretty refreshing to see that the Wiz under Ted are very "pro-active" in regards to the draft, where in years past it was plain painful to watch.

Even if they don't get another top 20 pick, it's nice to hear that they are agressively seeking one.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

i like Greg Monroe...reminds me of a Bosh

Posted by: mrhney03 | June 24, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's my wish list for picks #30 & #35:

Booker
Brackins
Pondexter
Lawai

Obviously if another big drops (Alabi, Seraphin or Sanders) Wiz should nab him.

This isn't the year for upside at those spots. Draft a guy who can be a rotation player now.

Posted by: elfreako | June 24, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Patrick Patterson looks NBA-ready with 3 years under his belt and has played with Wall at KY. If the Wiz could move into the Top 20 by packaging the No. 30 and No. 35, that would be a possibility. None of the players available after that look to be guys who will provide immediate help to a franchise who needs at least 2 players out of this draft who can play immediately.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 24, 2010 1:04 PM | Report abuse

How is it that OKC got the 18th pick and Cook for the 32nd pick? Wouldn't the Wiz have given the 30th pick for 18 and Cook? Someone enlighten me, please.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | June 24, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

If the Wiz are able to move up Hayward or George should be their guy. There is no PF or C worth taking after the first few guys. They are all essentially Blatch or McGee and not worth wasting a pick on. If they can't move up to get one of those 2 guys in the 10-14 range they shouldn't bother.

Posted by: ThePat | June 24, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"How is it that OKC got the 18th pick and Cook for the 32nd pick? Wouldn't the Wiz have given the 30th pick for 18 and Cook? Someone enlighten me, please."

If the choice is between OKC and the Wiz, Miami is going to select OKC even with the slight loss in value of the returned draft pick due to the Wizards being in Miami's division.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

here's my thing, the WIZ need guys that can play. so instead of reaching on a pick hoping for "upside" take a guy that can play. Arenas and Michael Redd were 2nd round picks. it wasn't really a question if they could play, the issue was were they star potential. the NBA draft is all about superstars. Smart teams like Utah, San Antonio draft solid players and thus have solid teams.

for example, i can't think of a college big that might drop, but i hear Scottie Reynolds is a second round guy. we all know the guy can play and whoever gets him is going to get a solid player. he probably will never be a Kobe or jordan, but he can surely be a Bibby or Foye or nate Robinson and the like. the Wiz need solid players.

Posted by: oknow1 | June 24, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

If the choice is between OKC and the Wiz, Miami is going to select OKC even with the slight loss in value of the returned draft pick due to the Wizards being in Miami's division.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 1:33 PM

Are there at least some indications Wiz were involved in the discussion with OkC rather than more rehash of the non-starter Carter trade? You'd like to think that with the 18th pick in play, Wiz would have made a move on it given the stated desire to add picks.

Hopefully this didnt slip by due to continuing fascination with Rudy Fernandez

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

NBA GMs don't do business on Craig's list, where every deal is posted for everyone to see. It' may just be that the deal went down in a way that no one else knew it was going on until it was over. Just because one GM makes a good deal doesn't automatically mean that the other 29 GMs are incompetent dopes for not beating him to it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Nonsense. Teams are moving assets around and the only way to gauge and get full value is to not do it in a vacuum. EG should be in touch with every team that's expressed interest in shedding picks, doesnt mean the Wiz get the deal done, but there'd be no excuse for being caught completely unawares.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Well the post said Miami and Washington have been in trade discussions recently, and if MIA was purely looking for better value than their OKC return, it stands to reason that they would have gauged Washington's interest for the #30.

However, I also have to imagine (aside from the Wizards being in the same division and conference as Miami) the real reason for the trade was to get the 1st round pick guaranteed salary off the books with a non-guaranteed second rounder in return in order to have the maximum amount of cap space for free agency. And the Wizards did not have a better 2nd round pick to offer in return.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

"Nonsense. Teams are moving assets around and the only way to gauge and get full value is to not do it in a vacuum. EG should be in touch with every team that's expressed interest in shedding picks, doesnt mean the Wiz get the deal done, but there'd be no excuse for being caught completely unawares."

Bull. It may have been that the Heat approached the Thunder about a deal (as opposed to putting it out in the street that they were selling their wares) in a closed loop. It may have been that the Wiz did contact the Heat but that Riley said he wasn't interested because he didn't want to give assets to a division rival. It could have been that Grunfeld was actively working the phones with a bunch of teams and simply hadn't hooked up with Miami before this deal went into play. The fact is that most of the so called "leaks" concerning deals come from the teams themselves. If Miami wanted to keep a lid on this it was certainly within their purview to do so.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"It may have been that the Wiz did contact the Heat but that Riley said he wasn't interested because he didn't want to give assets to a division rival."

Well then that wouldnt qualify as being caught completely unawares would it?

"It could have been that Grunfeld was actively working the phones with a bunch of teams and simply hadn't hooked up with Miami before this deal went into play."

If the owner's stated objective was to gain another midlevel 1st round pick, there are only so many teams and GMs to call, and EG has long personal relationships with most of them. The notion a deal like that went down with Grunfeld completely unaware doesnt hold water unless you think he's a sorry GM.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

"Sources near the situation say Grunfeld has one more year to get the Wizards moving in the right direction or he'll be replaced next summer. This draft and the impending free agency is important to Ernie's job security and as a result some insiders believe he Wizards could be extremely active on draft night, a role usually played by the Portland Trail Blazers."
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16541
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Ernie's fingers are bloodied from all of the dialing.....or so one would think. Ernie's head.

Posted by: closg | June 24, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Ernie's head is on the chopping-block is what I tried to get on there ^^^^

Posted by: closg | June 24, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Trade up for a realistic draft pick between 18-23 and pick Larry Sanders.....the kid has loads of potential

Posted by: psock1 | June 24, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I still see people blasting Blatche on here often. He played like an All Star the second half of the season and put up numbers any team would love to have from a second rounder. Other then the episode of not going back into the game he was the best we had.

Posted by: buddybuttons5 | June 24, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I still see people blasting Blatche on here often. He played like an All Star the second half of the season and put up numbers any team would love to have from a second rounder. Other then the episode of not going back into the game he was the best we had.

Posted by: buddybuttons5

I liked what I saw from Andray the end of the season but saying that "he was the best we had" ....cmon!
If he was the best who was the second best???

Posted by: VBFan | June 24, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Miami and washington deal is probably did not do good due to the high interest of Miami not to take a garanted contract #30 and clearly OC #32 is more atractive than our #35, please do not jump on the head of EG,late us leave all negatives behind us and try to think positively

Posted by: gtefferra | June 24, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

How is it that OKC got the 18th pick and Cook for the 32nd pick? Wouldn't the Wiz have given the 30th pick for 18 and Cook? Someone enlighten me, please."

If the choice is between OKC and the Wiz, Miami is going to select OKC even with the slight loss in value of the returned draft pick due to the Wizards being in Miami's division.

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I'm no GM, but I think the reason Miami wouldn't have considered the Wiz's 30 pick is that it's a first rounder. In other words the contract the player secures is guaranteed for this upcoming season. With the HEAT being big players in the FA fantasy chase, they're trying to knock off as much as possible off their books.

I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

I sure do hope we pull something off tonight in terms of a trade. Hopefully Ernie can do some creative out of the box thinking to find a way to land a decent player/prospect to line up with the WALL. And PLEASE, do NOT trade any future 1st round picks!

Posted by: humen8r | June 24, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

My sources indicate that we are trading Nick Young and our late #1 pick for a pick in the Top 12. Book it. We take Monroe.

My source = my brother, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Posted by: isnadd | June 24, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I still see people blasting Blatche on here often. He played like an All Star the second half of the season and put up numbers any team would love to have from a second rounder. Other then the episode of not going back into the game he was the best we had.

Posted by: buddybuttons5

That episode was the point. This guy is well known for being lazy. He has a bad attitude and has already dissed Flip once. If were starting over we need to get rid of ALL the problems. At least Gil has so far looked humbled. Blatche played nicely because he was the only option. Now that we will have one or two better options I don't know that his heart will be in it (if it ever was). Trade him while his value is high and get Udoh or Patterson or any of the others listed (though I'm not sold on Monroe, and NJ might take him). If we offer Blatche and Arenas for a top 10, someone could be interested (Kings? Warriors? Hornets at 11 might be possible since they suddenly need to make Paul happy). We could still buy that Clippers pick too; they are the one top 10 team who might want to shed salary for cap room to get LeBron or other FAs.

Oh, and that Miami deal clearly looks like an attempt to shed salary for FAs. Why would Miami do us a favor? They are not the Philadelphia Eagles.

I hope Larry Sanders falls to #30, that would be GREAT. At #35 I still say Varnado. It's time we got someone in the middle dedicated to D, even if his O needs serious help.

Posted by: mcgratsp | June 24, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Josh Childress - wizards

Posted by: merajc86 | June 24, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

also, kirk and 18th pick to wiz

Posted by: merajc86 | June 24, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who has seen Wall knows that he is not even slightly close to being able to carry an franchise

If we don't surround him with a good bit of talent/experience, the Wizards will be WORSE next season than what they just were

Posted by: Bious | June 24, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Draft Express in their current Mock has Orton falling to the Wizards at #30. Not sure I could see that happening, or what it says if he does. They would probably be obliged to take him there if he does fall that far.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Draft Express in their current Mock has Orton falling to the Wizards at #30. Not sure I could see that happening, or what it says if he does. They would probably be obliged to take him there if he does fall that far.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"My sources indicate that we are trading Nick Young and our late #1 pick for a pick in the Top 12. Book it. We take Monroe. posted by isnadd"

Please oh Lord...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

The reason why the deal was made for the 32th rather than our pick is due to the fact our pick is in the first round.

First round picks contracts are guarantee while 2nd are not, which means Miami could get rid of the player if they so choose to do so without any cap hit.

Chicago will only trade their pick if they can move Deng.

One team we could try to make a deal with is Minn since they really don't need the 16th pick and we have dealt with them in the past.

However, we lack assets to pull something off. Nick Young maybe our only chip along with 32th and our 2nd round picks.

Posted by: whitedragon145 | June 24, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards had a second rounder (i.e., non-guaranteed money) they could have given Miami for Cook and the 18th pick. I suspect the division thing might have had something to do with it (and perhaps the fact that OKC's 2d rounder is three slots higher than the Wizard's).

Posted by: and_1 | June 24, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

ESPN is reporting that the Wiz have a handshake deal in place with the Bulls to acquire the #17 pick and Kirk Henrich (unknown what the Wiz are giving up).

Posted by: jhcarson | June 24, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they are sending back the trade exceptions or nothing at all, just allowing Chicago to dump salary.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

If the deal goes through, and if Hinrich is not on his way somewhere else, it would pretty much signal the official end of resigning Shaun Livingston wouldn't it?

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I liked what I saw from Andray the end of the season but saying that "he was the best we had" ....cmon!
If he was the best who was the second best???

That is the question huh? Who was the second best not including Gilbert, Howard? Thorton? Nick Young? JM or Mike Miller? The point is there was not a player we could identify that would be considered better. We have a long way to go but getting rid of Blatche in my opinion is not an option unless it lands us in the top five picks tonight and it aint going to happen.

Posted by: buddybuttons5 | June 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

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