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Wizards acquire 17th pick, Hinrich from Chicago (Updated)

The Wizards have agreed to a trade with the Chicago Bulls to acquire Kirk Hinrich and the 17th overall pick in exchange for a future second-round choice, a source with knowledge of the situation confirmed on Thursday. The deal provides the Wizards with a defensive-minded veteran guard with the ability to play both backcourt positions and the opportunity to add a quality player in the middle of the first round. The Wizards were allowed to keep the 30th and 35th selections in the process, but they had to absorb the final two years and $17 million remaining on Hinrich's contract.

The Bulls to cleared nearly $10.3 million of the deal for next season - Hinrich earns $9 million and the 17th pick is owed $1.3 million - which allows them to have enough room under the salary cap to possibly sign two maximum free agents when the signing period begins on July 1. The trade, first reported by ESPN.com, cannot become official until July 8.

President Ernie Grunfeld has long coveted Hinrich, a former all-defensive guard who has started on the 2006 World Championship team. The Wizards have attempted to acquire Hinrich in trades several times and Grunfeld wanted to take Hinrich in the 2003 NBA draft but had to settle for T.J. Ford when Hinrich went one spot ahead of Ford.

Hinrich has already proven to be capable of playing alongside a guard who dominates the basketball, having served as a mentor to all-star point guard Derrick Rose the past two seasons. The trade essentially shuts the door on the Wizards bringing back Randy Foye. Mike Miller, Josh Howard and Shaun Livingston are also unlikely to return.

By Michael Lee  |  June 24, 2010; 4:40 PM ET
 
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- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

FIRST!!

Posted by: Bullzards80 | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

We traded our late first rounder and some apple sauce I'm told. It was the Costco sized apple sauce so the value was definitely there for the Bulls to make this trade.

Posted by: isnadd | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Somebody's working the phones too much to update the neurotic masses. Come'on Michael, the pills are wearing off here...

Posted by: creativefunk | June 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Seriously though, what kind of insider info is this when Twitter beats you to the punch!?!

Good pickup by the way. Hinrich, 17th plus maybe Childress?? Goodness, rebuild express!

Posted by: Bullzards80 | June 24, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I just read that Childress shot 57% from the field in his last season in Atlanta. He's also shot 50% and 55% in two other seasons.

Hinrich gives the Wizards a gritty, reliable veteran that provides defensive presence and can shoot from distance. He'll be a great 3rd man in a rotation with Wall and Arenas.

And we get the 17th pick? In this supposed deep draft?

I'm getting that excited offseason fever...appropriate given the events of tonight.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Hmm i'm boggled by this trade.

Hinrich plays PG...position soon to be occupied by Mr. John Wall.

Granted he played side by side with Rose, but he didn't do that well. I'm guessing he could backup wall and give gilbert a spell? But hmmm don't know how I feel about that, since he will most likely demand more minutes than being backup to wall, and he's not athletic enough to guard most 2s...

what this does mean is, goodbye to randy foye and/or shaun livingston

Posted by: Havemercyplz | June 24, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

One report on Childress, "No terms of the deal were released, but the guess would be we're talking at least three years and in the $6 million a year range or higher. Atlanta would have the right to match, and if they think Joe Johnson is going to bolt during free agency they likely would."

Posted by: midlevex_ | June 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously though, what kind of insider info is this when Twitter beats you to the punch!?!"

That's exactly why it is so popular.

http://twitter.com/espn/nba

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Our backcourt is shaping up nicely, but what about the front court? We're kinda hurtin' down low. We're gonna get outrebounded by 10 a night.

Posted by: justice98 | June 24, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe the trade will be Chicago sends Hinrich and the 17 to us, we send Hinrich to Atlanta for a signed-and-traded Childress plus their #24 pick. Chicago gets cap space. Atlanta gets a younger PG, the Wiz get Childress (hopefully for a reasonable salary) plus the #17 and #24.

Ok, no way this actually happens, I just happened to see both moves at the same time =)

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I have a feeling EG has something up his sleeve still.

Dude can trade his butt off, I just wish he knew how to draft. :P

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

#17 puts us in the range for Alabi, Sanders, Seraphin, Anderson, Bradley, etc.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Our backcourt is shaping up nicely, but what about the front court? We're kinda hurtin' down low. We're gonna get outrebounded by 10 a night.

Posted by: justice98

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I believe that's why we have the #17, #30, and #35.

Big men galore following the selection of Wall.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Terrible trade... are we not interested in at least attempting to land a Bosh or Stoudemire? Now we are gonna fill the roster with mediocre free agents and no big man star to pair with Wall. I doubt these types of free agents are going to be available when the Wiz are finally "ready" to sign a star. Horrible, and for the 17th pick? What are they doing?

Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz | June 24, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"Terrible trade... are we not interested in at least attempting to land a Bosh or Stoudemire?"

Ted has already said he doesn't plan to sign any of those guys and rebuild through the draft.

It was expected.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Terrible trade... are we not interested in at least attempting to land a Bosh or Stoudemire?

It's still early. But yes, they need to address the front court.

As to Bosh/Stoudemire, I doubt either one wants to come to DC.

More than doubt.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 24, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

No way they take Hinrich at his salary for 2 years and keep him. There has to me more to it.

Posted by: rocky123 | June 24, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The other shoe hasn't fallen.

I can't see the Wiz having all that money tied up in three guys who need the ball to be successful and who all play essentially the same position. Kirk or Gil is going to be moved. Bank on it.

Posted by: and_1 | June 24, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"I just don't see them picking #17 and #30 and then #32".

My guess is that they'll send their second-round pick (#32) to Chicago for Hinrich and #17. The second-rounder doesn't require a guarranteed contract, and that's what the Bulls want since they're trying to clear cap room.

By the way, if this move allows them to land two top-tier free agents (say, LeBron and Wade or Lebron and Bosh) to go along with Derrick Rose, that should make them the favorite in the Eastern Conference.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 24, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking but the question is which team wants Hinrich and that cap hit?

Hinrich and 17th and 30th for a high first?


Posted by: SteveMG | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"Hinrich gives the Wizards a gritty, reliable veteran that provides defensive presence and can shoot from distance. He'll be a great 3rd man in a rotation with Wall and Arenas.

And we get the 17th pick? In this supposed deep draft?

I'm getting that excited offseason fever...appropriate given the events of tonight.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse "

At first blush, this seems like a good move to get the 17th pick and a veteran guard.

Unfortunately, this backup guard has a 40 mil contract where he's due $9 mil this season and he's probably looking to start, not play 15 token minutes/night.

I mean, with Hinrich coming here, then there's absolutely no way Gilby gets any PT at the 1 guard spot, and looks for sure to be trade bait despite Teddy Bigbucks and EG saying all those nice things about him.

I wonder who EG is eyeing at the 17th pick.

BTW, I take full credit for throwing Childress's name out there as a good pickup at the 3.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"What are they doing?"

Easy. Rather than betting on the low-probability chance of having a marquee free agent sign with the 4th worst team in the NBA at the beginning of a total overhaul, Grunfeld is taking advantage of the rare opportunity to acquire valuable draft selections in a deep draft at an unprecedented discount. It's shrewd business, and brilliant strategy.

Posted by: psps23 | June 24, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"Terrible trade... are we not interested in at least attempting to land a Bosh or Stoudemire?"

First of all, where have you been the last 3 months? Right, the owner doesn't want to go after those guys (plus we got Blatche for 1/5 of the cost). Secondly, I think it's a great trade and one I'd had penciled in for a month. First, Hinrich can back up both Wall and Arenas and can play solid D on the opposing 2-guard. That would give us one of the best 3-guard rotations in the league by far - for the next 2 years and then Hinrich is dropped. Foye and Livingston are gone. Young seems to suffer the most from this trade.

Posted by: Urnesto | June 24, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This has to be a precursor to another bigger deal. Hinrich is owed 17M over 2 years and is nothing special as a player. Why take on that much money for the #17 pick which won't be an impact player?

As Hollinger mentioned on ESPN, OKC got pick #18 for taking on 2M in salary and Cook. We take on 17M for the #17 pick. Just horrible unless this is part of a bigger set of moves.

And any reason why this was first on ESPN over an hour ago and it took forever to get here?

Posted by: JDR1970 | June 24, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

$9 million salary for Hinrich is a waste. Look at this - OKC spent $2 million to get 18th pick (Dequan Cook salary). WAS is taking on $9 million for 17th pick. UGH!!!

Posted by: travisloop | June 24, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

BOOOOOOOOOOO! Heinrich? WTF? I'd rather have livingston!

Posted by: Gooddad | June 24, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"First, Hinrich can back up both Wall and Arenas and can play solid D on the opposing 2-guard."

What's funny is Hinrich has given Gil fits over the years and he's now here in DC.

Maybe he can teach Gil to play defense. ;)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, this backup guard has a 40 mil contract where he's due $9 mil this season and he's probably looking to start, not play 15 token minutes/night.

I mean, with Hinrich coming here, then there's absolutely no way Gilby gets any PT at the 1 guard spot, and looks for sure to be trade bait despite Teddy Bigbucks and EG saying all those nice things about him.

I wonder who EG is eyeing at the 17th pick.

BTW, I take full credit for throwing Childress's name out there as a good pickup at the 3.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

If he ends up sucking here, will you take credit for that too? ;-)

The surmised salary number for Childress in $6M per. Personally, I think that's too much.

Having been in exactly this same situation before (between playing with Rose and Ben Gordon), I doubt Hinrich is expecting anything. The only nice part about his contract is that his cap number actually goes down the next two years. That's pretty much the only nice part about it.

I'm willing to bet Gilby has always been trade bait. I'm as sure of that as I'm sure that there haven't been any serious takers with the $80M remaining on his deal, and $17M and up yearly salary.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse


"I can't see the Wiz having all that money tied up in three guys who need the ball to be successful and who all play essentially the same position. Kirk or Gil is going to be moved. Bank on it."

Gilbert is gone by mid-season regardless of Hinrich. And Hinrich will hopefully get moved before he ever puts on a Wiz uniform.

Posted by: rocky123 | June 24, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Terrible trade... are we not interested in at least attempting to land a Bosh or Stoudemire?

Why would any top-tier free agent, "big-man star" or otherwise, come to Washington when they can go to Chicago or some other team with cap-room and better surrounding players, or stay with their current team and make more money than the Wizards can pay? This is exactly the kind of deal that the Wizards should be making, acquiring more picks in a deep draft to build a core of young players that, if chosen correctly, can be successful for many years to come.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Well I think its a huge mistake to not at least attempt to sign Bosh/Stoudemire. Adding Wall gives the Wiz some credibility. Instead, we have likely helped the Bulls sign multiple players and be more competitive than us for a while.

People do not realize that having cap space and a free agent class like this comes around once a decade if that. I guess you guys are more patient and are ok with 3 years of losing before we contend again.

But look at Boston - you can go from worst to first in one offseason with shrewd moves. Its quite pathetic that Leonsis is scared away from NBA free agents b/c of something that happened in hockey.

Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz | June 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

At this point in his career Hinrich is overpaid at $9mill, but that's just how the league works and his total salary is "just" $17mill over 2yrs so he isn't any kind of long term burden. We can thankfully say "good-bye" to Foye now, and most importantly should the deal hold, we get the 17th pick.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

It's all about doing all we can to establish Wall as the cornerstone . . .

David Aldridge's take: "Washington believes that Hinrich can be a solid mentor for John Wall, whom the Wizards will take with the first pick in tonight's NBA Draft. Hinrich was a good instructor for Derrick Rose, the Bulls' star guard who was also taken first overall in the Draft two years ago. . . ."

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/24/wizards.bulls.aldridge/?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Posted by: farstriker | June 24, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"Well I think its a huge mistake to not at least attempt to sign Bosh/Stoudemire. Adding Wall gives the Wiz some credibility."

Well, who is to say they won't sign someone or trade for someone in the future?

It can happen, but coming right out of the box and spending millions doesn't always work.

I still say EG is not done yet. They are moving someone tonight.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Chris Miller says the Wizards are only sending cash considerations to Chicago. No picks or players

Posted by: bukaki23 | June 24, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Not a great deal, not a terrible one. Hinrich is a solid player with leadership/playoff experience and a level-head, something this young team could need. Overpaid? Sure, but not grossly so by NBA standards. And since Leonsis has already made it perfectly clear that he wasn't going to be throwing around mad money on the FA market, who cares? It's not like (a) his salary is preventing them from signing Lebron or (B) it's our money. Moreover, if he plays well and stays healthy, there's always the possibility that they could flip him for something else at the deadline or in the offseason.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Look for the Wiz to trade N Young or R Foye pretty soon.

Posted by: bukaki23 | June 24, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

If this is just for cap-relief and cash consideration, then I like the deal.

The odds of picking up a quality player at #17 seem pretty solid in this draft.

Even with Rose starting PG last year, Hinrich still notched 33 minutes a game last year, so odds are he'd see action at both PG and SG (provided the rumors are true about the deal). Getting Luol Deng would have addressed a more pressing need, but perhaps the Wizards are going to target SF in the draft.

Posted by: JPRS | June 24, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

But look at Boston - you can go from worst to first in one offseason with shrewd moves. Its quite pathetic that Leonsis is scared away from NBA free agents b/c of something that happened in hockey.

Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz

Boston's moves were trades. It seems most likely, just hearing Bosh talk, that he's going somewhere where they can contend immediately and also likely with one of the other top FAs. We can't sign two, and even with Bosh, we're not immediate contenders.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"Well I think its a huge mistake to not at least attempt to sign Bosh/Stoudemire. Adding Wall gives the Wiz some credibility."

Not nearly enough to get a marquee FA to sign on with a team that's spent the last several years in constant turmoil. Vets like Bosh and Stoudemire aren't going to pin their futures on an unproven rookie, no matter how much hype he gets. The NBA is a "prove it/show me" league.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I hope t35 is right. i hope this is part of a package for childress. however, isn't childress another mental case?

Posted by: oknow1 | June 24, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Gotta wonder if there's a team in the top 10 willing to deal for our 3 picks

Posted by: bukaki23 | June 24, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"I can't see the Wiz having all that money tied up in three guys who need the ball to be successful and who all play essentially the same position. Kirk or Gil is going to be moved. Bank on it."

Hinrich he can be a spot-up shooter who plays off the ball. Plus he's one of the better on the ball backcourt defenders in the NBA. He doesn't need to dominate the ball to be successful.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Is Michael Lee working today, because Twitter is kicking his arse.

Posted by: theskinnypost | June 24, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

"As Hollinger mentioned on ESPN, OKC got pick #18 for taking on 2M in salary and Cook. We take on 17M for the #17 pick. Just horrible unless this is part of a bigger set of moves."

I doubt seriously if the same deal was available to the Wizards. First of all, OKC had a higher second-round pick (#32) to trade to the Heat than the Wizards did (#35), and the Heat wanted a second-rounder rather than a first or a player since they made the deal to clear cap room. Second, they were probably reluctant to trade with a team in their own division. I like the trade, even if there are no more moves to come for the Wizards (and there very well be further moves to come).

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 24, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I knew Ted was smart, but getting a solid guard and a draft pick in return for nothing? I'm waiting for the next announcement, that the Wizards have acquired Pau Gasol in exchange for nothing.

Posted by: randysbailin | June 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Listening to Bosh this morning on ESPN radio, he definitely is going someplace to contend. He'll get a max contract to play for a winner like Miami or Chicago. No reason to sign on for a rebuilding effort in D.C. Bosh also wants to play with another superstar so he isn't the No. 1 guy like he was in Toronto.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

So who do you think we will be taking with the #17 pick???

Posted by: bullets8890 | June 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I disagree Rufus. Maybe Miami doesn't deal with us but you don't have to take on Hinrich and his contract. We're not going to be very good in the next two years so we should be picky about taking on contracts and shouldn't be handing the Bulls the cap room to possibly offer up two max deals.

Unless this is part of more moves I don't like this deal.

Posted by: JDR1970 | June 24, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree that Deng over Hinrich would have been better from a youth/positional standpoint. But Deng had 5 years left and Hinrich only has 2 years. And Deng is even more overpaid. Plus, if we are going to have 3-4 rookies, plus McGee/Young/Blatche, we need positive veteran leadership to help teach those guys to be professionals. Gil, as much as I love him, is probably not that. We need people like Hinrich and James Singleton. Not necessarily all-stars but solid pro's and apparently good lockerroom guys. As they've said 100 times, it's not about this year.

Posted by: Urnesto | June 24, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knows Flip doesn't like to play the younger players so it looks like Ernie has provided another vet to start with Gil?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 24, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Larry Sanders at 17th?

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Moreover, if [Hinrich] plays well and stays healthy, there's always the possibility that they could flip him for something else at the deadline or in the offseason.

Posted by: kalo_rama

Good point. He's excellent trade bait next summer if the Wiz don't move him this season.

Posted by: and_1 | June 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"Unless this is part of more moves I don't like this deal."

Hinrich is solid. Yes, for 9.5 mil that's a lot but not terrible, and he plays defense as good as anyone. When's the last time you could say that about a Wiz player? :)

Couple him with Wall, and if Gil is still here that's a nice rotation.

I do think there's something else down the pike though. Too many guards on the Wiz now. Hopefully they dump NY.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 24, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

As for Childress, a 3-yr deal in the $6 mill range sounds about right. He was a high percentage double-digit scorer before he left for Europe, so as long as he hasn't regressed somehow, that's not a bad deal for a starting SF/complementary scorer in his prime.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"But look at Boston - you can go from worst to first in one offseason with shrewd moves. Its quite pathetic that Leonsis is scared away from NBA free agents b/c of something that happened in hockey.Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz"

Didn't the Celts spend a couple seasons accumulating young players before they made those trades with Seattle and Minnesota?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

make moves to get greg monroe who eventually will be a good nba players

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | June 24, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

What's this rumor of John Wall for Chris Paul?

Just somebody throwing stuff out?

Posted by: SteveMG | June 24, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"I do think there's something else down the pike though. Too many guards on the Wiz now. Hopefully they dump NY."

Not really. The only sure rotation caliber guards they have are Wall, Arenas, and Hinrich. Foye and Miller are gone and Young and Ross are cheap end-of-bench fodder.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

BOOOOOOOOOOO! Heinrich? WTF? I'd rather have livingston!

Posted by: Gooddad

Give me Heinrich and the 17th pick over Shaun Livingston anyday of the week. The pick is what you're missing out on.

Posted by: Predator48 | June 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Didn't the Celts spend a couple seasons accumulating young players before they made those trades with Seattle and Minnesota? "

If you consider a decade "a few years."

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the Celts spend a couple seasons accumulating young players before they made those trades with Seattle and Minnesota?

Yes they did, but the point is that with smart moves, you can become a contender in one offseason. Their main weapon was young talent; ours is cap space. And having Bosh/Soudemire, Wall, Arenas, and Blatche could be enough to be a 4 seed in the east.

Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz | June 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Bulls clear space, send Hinrich, 17th pick to Wizards
By David Aldridge, for NBA.com
Posted Jun 24 2010 4:47PM

The Washington Wizards and Chicago Bulls have agreed to a trade that will send Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich and Chicago's first-round pick, 17th overall, to Washington for a future second-round pick, a league source confirmed Thursday.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 24, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Here's the rest of what ESPN said about the prospective trade, which wouldn't be finalized til July 8:

"Since it's a good-faith deal for the time being, there remains a chance it could fall apart. But according to one source, the Sacramento Kings are prepared to make a similar deal with the Bulls in the Wizards' stead if that were to happen."

"Either way, moving Hinrich and the pick would push Chicago's space under the cap from $20 million to more than $30 million. That puts the Bulls on equal footing with the Miami Heat in pursuing not just one but two members of a free-agent class that is expected to include LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer, Amare Stoudemire and Joe Johnson."

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

But look at Boston - you can go from worst to first in one offseason with shrewd moves. Its quite pathetic that Leonsis is scared away from NBA free agents b/c of something that happened in hockey.

Posted by: NobodyBeatsTheWiz | June 24, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I mean, look at the Redskins taking the opposite approach that Leonsis took! Playoffs and Super Bowls each and every season for the offseason free agent champs!!

Wiz fans....gotta love 'em!

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | June 24, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Something is definitely up. maybe Hinrich and the 17th to Bird's Pacers for the 10th (Monroe)? Or maybe preparing to move Gilby before the trade deadline... No, idea what this is all about, but, I smell something.

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | June 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

isn't childress another mental case?

I think you have Josh Childress confused with Josh Howard. Childress is a Stanford guy, smart dude who was in the running for NBA 6th man of the year award a few years ago. Not a head case.

Posted by: Predator48 | June 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Mike Jones reporting the Wiz are NOT negotiating with Childress.

Posted by: JDR1970 | June 24, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Yes they did, but the point is that with smart moves, you can become a contender in one offseason."

And the reason they were able to make those smart moves in one offseason is because they spent the several previous offseasons acquiring the assets they used to make the deals that brought them Garnett and Allen. This is Washington's first year of rebuilding. by the time Boston got the big 3, they'd been rebuilding nonstop for about a decade.

"And having Bosh/Soudemire, Wall, Arenas, and Blatche could be enough to be a 4 seed in the east."

Or it could be enough to set of some locker room carping when Blatche (A) has to come off the bench behind Bosh/Stoudemire or (B) has to play at C, which he hates and is ill-suited for. And neither Bosh nor Stoudemire want to play C either, nor have their previous teams been effective when they've played there.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Man this team is guard happy! Year after year! Go out and get some trees!

Posted by: slimjim21787 | June 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hindlick is garbage. Terrible move. Why dump everyone last year, free up all this cap space and then stockpile 1st round picks and Hienrich for 2 years? Just more guaranteed money getting strapped to our backs. So we can't play for Free Agents next year either

NobodyBeatsTheWiz was dead on with the following: "pathetic that Leonsis is scared away from NBA free agents b/c of something that happened in hockey"

So True! In the NBA, we all know that there are no guarantees for any pick after 10-12. 17 and 30 probably won't even contribute much this year, unless we get a steal.

And whoever thinks Kirk can guard 2-guards in this league, you need to change careers and go be a crossing guard on the Woodrow Wilson.

Posted by: FunStreet | June 24, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I was kind of horrified at first, but I do see some long-term method to the madness here. Interesting to learn what we gave up. Not much I hope.

Posted by: ArchieTambo | June 24, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Let's do a back of the envelope calculation here (Forgive me that I do not know the salary slots off hand). Hinrich is worth about 5 million per year (10 million over 2 years) while the #17 pick is worth perhaps 3 million per year in expectation over 4 years if this is a particularly deep draft (12 million). The cost here is 17 million for Hinrich plus the salary cost of the pick over the time that his contract will last (5 million if it is 1.25 million per year). Throw in the expected additional value of whatever pick they gave up (let's say the early second rounder which is a risk free investment since there are no guaranteed contracts) and the deal as it stands does not necessarily look that great or egregiously bad (Costs 22 million plus potential foregone gains from valuable risk free second pick benefits 22 million). Each of those numbers are clearly subject to debate. For example, perhaps we think Grunfeld is particularly adept at drafting in the middle of the first round, then the expected value of the #17 pick might be higher.

Posted by: audacitea | June 24, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Larry Bird is looking for a PG. He has the 10 pick.
Could be where Heinrich ends up.

Posted by: VBFan | June 24, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The ESPN scouting report on Hinrich:

A combo guard who has few limitations at either spot, Hinrich's greatest value is at the defensive end. Although he usually gives up inches against elite wing players, he's a superb on-ball defender with toughness and good lateral movement, as he showed by checking the much bigger Paul Pierce in the playoffs. Not surprisingly, the Bulls gave up 6.4 points per 100 possessions fewer with Hinrich on the court last season. His size forces him to pick up fouls and he leaves his feet too much, but he's still one of the best backcourt defenders in basketball.

Offensively he's a good outside shooter but hardly a great one, with a delivery that's a bit flat. He rarely goes all the way to the rim off the dribble, preferring to pull up for jumpers coming off the pick-and-roll while operating off the left side. He handles the ball like a point guard but tends to have low assist rates because of how infrequently he penetrates. The lack of easy layups also puts a cap on his shooting percentage, which usually ends up in the very low 40s.

Posted by: Urnesto | June 24, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Since this trade with the Bulls is a "good-faith deal" until July 8, how can the Wizs turn around and deal Hinrich tonight? Seems like that wouldn't be possible unless they're able to orchestrate it as a 3 way deal.

Does anyone know how it works?

Posted by: humen8r | June 24, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

how can the Wizs turn around and deal Hinrich tonight? Seems like that wouldn't be possible unless they're able to orchestrate it as a 3 way deal.

Well, they can make the framework for a deal with another team and then consummate it on the 8th.

The Bulls will be picking for the Wizards at 17 tonight (if the pick is kept) so obviously arrangements have been made beforehand as to who they should select.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 24, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

How do the Bulls pick for us at 17, if its not a certainty? It must be a done deal, or else I'm at a loss. If it falls through, do the Kings want the same guy at 17 that we did, do the Bulls? I'm thinking its a done deal. Anyone have any insight?

Posted by: FunStreet | June 24, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Heinrich....and yo wonder why I want Ernie GONE! Keep Gil, allow him and Wall to play a season or two, we could have the best back court in the league.

How about starting fresh w/out Ernie???? F U ernie!

Posted by: Gooddad | June 24, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Bulls were rumored to be talking to Pacers about Hinrich+17th for the 10th.

Any chance we're now talking that deal to Indiana? I like it better.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Honestly I've never been a big fan of Kirk's. I see him as basically another Randy Foye level player (probably a little less good overall), so if we dont re-sign foye this would be a good move for someone who can back up Wall and Arenas both. I see some people saying he demands more minutes but I dont think so. Last Wiz game I was at was actually Bulls v Wiz late in the season, n he didnt impress me in person either (Derrick Rose and Luol Deng gave me some dirty looks for being a drunken heckling mess too, which made me dislike all the bulls a little more. I'd probably be pissed to if someone kept yelling LooooooOOOOOWWWWLLL drunkenly at me though and calling me ugly and lazy, but i digress)

Posted by: bosshog7169 | June 24, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Thank you divi3... Lets hope.

Pacers can have Kirk, #17, and either #30 or #35 for the 10th pick in my opinion.

Posted by: FunStreet | June 24, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Hinrich won't be playing for the Wizards.

He's going to Indiana along with the 17th pick for the Pacers' pick.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 24, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Good Deal... Ted is doing what he said, building through the draft with players that will fit a scheme which is what I assume will be the drafting strategy tonight.

We don't want Amare as other's have stated... many many people have said he will be overpaid & his defense is as bad as his offense is good. What good is it if you score 30 & give up 30??

The next 2 years, you have 2 homegrown free agents becoming possibly available (Melo/Durant) ... these should be the Wiz targets in the future.

Lebron & Bosh together will equal EPIC FAIL unless they go to Chicago with Derrick Rose which would be NASTY... or if Lebron ends up with D Wade... Lebron/Bosh to NY KNICKS would be a failure. Neither one has that killer instinct down the stretch in the 4th qtr like D Wade, Kobe, etc.

Hinrich vs Livingston... Hinrich spreads the floor with his 3 pt capability & we are getting Livingston x 20 in John Wall, so let him walk... at least the Wiz allowed him to revive his career & he should play ball in the NBA next year.

Hopefully we will go after Josh Childress because he is a good defender & efficient player... Then with #17/#30 I would think we're going BIG!!

There are going to be some growing pains, but if they pick the right guys ala OKC for the system they are running... they will have long term success. Championships don't happen overnight in the NBA & trades/free agents aren't going to help you until you have the assets that people are willing to rebuild with (ex. : Al Jefferson + parts for KG).

Posted by: tony325 | June 24, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"...I'm waiting for the next announcement, that the Wizards have acquired Pau Gasol in exchange for nothing."

Posted by: randysbailin | June 24, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I believe it is against NBA rules for a player to be traded for nothing TWICE in their career.

Posted by: jmurray019 | June 24, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"Hinrich won't be playing for the Wizards.

He's going to Indiana along with the 17th pick for the Pacers' pick."

I'd be down with that. Not just for the pick but because, looking at the Pacers cap situation, the only big long-term deal they have is Granger, who they aren't trading. Pretty much all of the rest of their players have contracts that expire after next season (or have team options), which would mean the Wiz get both a higher pick and even more cap relief. Plus, I'd get a kick out of seeing the ridiculous crap people would come up with as an excuse to criticize Grunfeld for the deal.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Good. Now trade the #17, Hinrich, and Sign and Trade another player for the 3~5 pick and get:

* Greg Monroe; Versatile 6’11” 16ppg, 10rpg, 3.8ast, Bigger and taller Jeff Green,
* Wesley Johnson; 6’7”, 16.5ppg, 8.5rpg, Highly Skilled Forward from Syracuse
* Derrick Favors; 6’10”, 12.4ppg, 8.4rpg, Power Forward
* Al-Farouq Aminu; 6’8”, 15.8ppg, 10.7rpg, Power Forward
* Cole Aldrich, 6’10” 15ppg, 11rpg Highly Skilled Kansas Center
* DeMarcus Cousins; Kentucky's 15ppg, 10rpg, Big/Skilled

Shaun Livingston, 6’7” is a tough, highly skilled and competitive tall guard worth keeping for $3~4 Mil/year as he has shown more heart and playmaker skills than Nick Young. He scored 25 in a late season win over Boston.

Definitely draft 6’6” guard Greivis Vasquez if he is available with the 35th pick. He has much more Heart than Nick Young and brings it every game instead of 20% of the time. He can challenge Nick to become better and more serious;

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/greivis-vasquez

Posted by: liveride | June 24, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

This looks like a horrible trade unless Hinrich or Arenas is being packaged in a second trade. We have been getting Nick Young or Pecherov around 17 or 18 so that's not a gamebreaker. And what does this say about last year's first round pick? We gave away the 5th pick for Mike Miller (gone)and Randy Foye for a role that doesn't exist? This looks like chaos without another move.

Posted by: kinny_mcquade | June 24, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, maybe not MORE cap relief technically, as it would just be getting back what they lost in the first Hinrich deal, but still . . . they would basically have gotten the #10 pick for almost literally nothing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

This so-called Insider is WEAK. Completely beat by outside sources and peeps. No info at all. Lame baby.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 24, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I think some in here miss the point of some of these deals. It's not about Hinrich, it's about another fairly high pick in a supposedly deep draft. Plus, he can be somewhat of a mentor for Wall as he is more of a true PG than GA - and plays wing DEFENSE. Besides, this may be just move 1 in series of moves so the final outcome is not known. And, regardless of anyone's overall opinion of EG, if you think he doesn't thrive making trades, then you don't know jack. In addition, he is good at later round picks. The only problems I've had with him are his contract signings and the amounts - Etan, GA, AJ and I'm fairly certain those weren't always his decisions (see the late Abe Pollin). Point being we are in good hands and Ted knows as much, which is why Ted kept him after spending hundreds of millions for the team.

Just don't expect instant playoff appearances or big name free agents this off season (Ted already said no and they won't come to a rebuilding squad anyway).

Let the new era begin!

Posted by: rphilli721 | June 24, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Bulls have been down on Hinrich since about 5mins after they inked his deal.....I'm going to go with DC not being his destination, the more you read Chicago boards the more it sounds like the positives we're mentioning haven't been there of late.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Arenas and two 9MM's for anything

Posted by: southportwave | June 24, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

". . . the more you read Chicago boards the more it sounds like the positives we're mentioning haven't been there of late."

Yeah, because if you want unbiased, fact-based player analysis, a fan message board is always the first place to go.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Melo ain't coming home. He's already been negotiating an extension. Same with Durant.

Posted by: JDR1970 | June 24, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I disagree Rufus. Maybe Miami doesn't deal with us but you don't have to take on Hinrich and his contract.

If the team was going to get a first round pick in a deal of this sort, they were likely going to have to take back a bad contract. And Hinrich serves a purpose as he has reportedly been a good mentor for Derrick Rose and can serve the same purpose with Wall.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 24, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, because if you want unbiased, fact-based player analysis, a fan message board is always the first place to go.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 6:56 PM

Your analysis is found on a fan message board, so you're saying we should disregard it then? Nice we agree on something!

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"We're not going to be very good in the next two years so we should be picky about taking on contracts and shouldn't be handing the Bulls the cap room to possibly offer up two max deals."

Actually, the opposite is true. Because they know they're not going to be very good the next two years, the Wizards have the freedom of taking on potentially bad, relatively short-term contracts. Until their core youngsters prove themselves, noteworthy vet FAs aren't going to look at DC as a viable destination no matter how much cap space they have. So taking on a player like Hinrich (if he doesn't get moved along) has no real negative affect on their flexibility, because they won't be putting all that cap room to serious long-term use until they've had a chance to asses the players they've already got and figure out who the keepers are and what other pieces they need to add. It's a low risk gamble. In the meantime, he brings some positives, both on the court and in the locker room, that can aid in the development of the young guys, and he's a proven performer who can help win games.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

"Your analysis is found on a fan message board, so you're saying we should disregard it then?"

For a guy who claims to be disregarding me, you spend an awful lot of time trying to dispute me. Sounds like you've got some cognitive dissonance going on there, sonny-jim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

One thing I don't understand. How is Chicago compelled to stick with this deal? If it can't be finalized til July 8; then July 1 comes and Chicago has to tell the marquee free agents they want, to wait a week while this deal finalizes. Free agents will go for that? What if they don't? What if they all sign early, somewhere else? The Bulls are left holding the bag, right?

So why would they stick with the deal?

Posted by: JimZipCode | June 24, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"Hinrich won't be playing for the Wizards.
He's going to Indiana along with the 17th pick for the Pacers' pick.Posted by: SteveMG"

Not a bad thought at all. Who's there at 10? Probably not Monroe, but possibly Ed Davis, Pat Patterson, Paul George, Xavier Henry...and Larry Sanders.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

...and Larry Sanders. "

What is Garry Shandling's standing reach?

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

For a guy who claims to be disregarding me, you spend an awful lot of time trying to dispute me. Sounds like you've got some cognitive dissonance going on there, sonny-jim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 7:24 PM

You responded to me. I was just pointing out you're looking down your nose at yourself when you criticize the opinions of people on message boards.

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

What's the matter with you idiots. Hinrich would be one of the best players on the team. When was the last time the wiz had a guard who could actually play real defense AND hit the "three". I'd send Arenass packing right now.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | June 24, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

One thing I don't understand. How is Chicago compelled to stick with this deal? If it can't be finalized til July 8; then July 1 comes and Chicago has to tell the marquee free agents they want, to wait a week while this deal finalizes. Free agents will go for that? What if they don't? What if they all sign early, somewhere else? The Bulls are left holding the bag, right?

So why would they stick with the deal?

Posted by: JimZipCode

JZC, no one can sign until July 8th. July 1 is the threshhold when players become FAs and can start talking to teams officially, but no FAs can sign until July 8th (I think this is also technically the date the next year's salary cap takes effect).

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Heck, at least they didn't draft Paul Wall, "the people's champ" and with our history I never take anything for granted. The no. 17
pick can't be all bad and Hinrich can play.

One more thing - Get Arenas on the bricks and we'll have a fighting chance. We are back to square one but depending on Agent 0 we would always keep us there.

Posted by: rickywarner49 | June 24, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

on Josh Childress: basically a small forward who can rebound and score on drives. He has a decent 3 point percentage but doesn't take a lot of shots from out there. Would still be in the NBA if Olympiakos hadn't made him a ridiculous offer. Is a little bigger than Caron and just turned 27.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Gary Shandling can dish the rock and plays great D

Posted by: jmurray019 | June 24, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

on Josh Childress: basically a small forward who can rebound and score on drives. He has a decent 3 point percentage but doesn't take a lot of shots from out there. Would still be in the NBA if Olympiakos hadn't made him a ridiculous offer. Is a little bigger than Caron and just turned 27.

Posted by: Samson151

My problem with Childress is that he's a very similar player to Thornton, though a better defender.

Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Jazz pull a Jazz! ;)

Posted by: divi3 | June 24, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

"My problem with Childress is that he's a very similar player to Thornton, though a better defender."

He's much better off the dribble than Thornton, although I wouldn't necessarily call him a slasher.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I am stunned that the Warriors passed on Monroe. There have been rumors circulating for a while that Nellie was being marginalized in G.S. and his influence with the front office and ownership was waning. This is proof positive to me, because I have to think that if he had any pull over the draft selection, Monroe would be a Warrior.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

My problem with Childress is that he's a very similar player to Thornton, though a better defender.
Posted by: ts35 | June 24, 2010 8:20 PM |

As much as AT looks the part & I WANT to, he hasn't done much as JC.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 24, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"You responded to me. I was just pointing out you're looking down your nose at yourself when you criticize the opinions of people on message boards."

Blah, blah, yawn. Wake me when the straw man is done burning.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 24, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Somebody mentioned that Hinrich could back back up Wall and Gilbert a break. Pleeeeease give all of us a break and get rid of Arenas, the most overpaid player in NBA history. He has played 47 games in the last three years, when will somebody learn ? You got to clean the house before you paint it and Gilbert es muy sucio !

Posted by: rickywarner49 | June 24, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

They should clean house starting with the nitwit fans.Aight? Gringo Chumpanzee.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 24, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Typical Bullets -- all this is window dressing -- Can Wall, Hinrich or any other of the players they bring in rebound? defend in the post? Same old Bullets!

Posted by: jwing14 | June 24, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Are Hinrich and the 17th pick worth more than Foye, Miller, and/or Livingston, which they apparently have to sacrifice to bring Hinrich in?

Posted by: justice98 | June 24, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

This should be Alabi.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Good source

Posted by: jcaruana | June 24, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Well, Seraphin isn't bad either. An upside pick.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 24, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Love the Seraphin pick.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 24, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I'll take Seraphin, as long as he plays inside the paint... Much diff than a Pesh or Veremeeko... If they stash him overseas, it'll help stop his nba contract clock, but if he comes aboard, he'll provide some toughness inside. reading reports, he's extremely raw, but i'm glad this team went with an inside big...

this team can always draft a hobson or pondexter with the #30, since a SF is also a need on this team...

Posted by: -CN- | June 24, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Don't know if picking up Hinrich's big contract was worth it though, considering the clippers just traded for OKC's pick for a future 1st rounder...

Posted by: -CN- | June 24, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

yeah cn i agree. I don't like the pick at all.

Posted by: anacostia85 | June 24, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

don't like the pick or the trade typical ernie.we could have had done better if they wanted booker they could have taken him instead of the project and still had a shot at 30 at patterson or whiteside or alabi

Posted by: anacostia85 | June 24, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

LAC future 1st rounder vs. Seraphin...first reaction...not good.

Posted by: dfresh58 | June 24, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line - we got john wall.

Posted by: dfresh58 | June 24, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

truly confusing: hinrich is highly overrated and has NEVER met scoring expectations or guard any other guard in the league. he can shoot when open, but ben gordon put him on the bench in crunchtime, then the rookie TOOK his spot. the guy is SHORT and SLOW. shaun livingston would be a better AND cheaper guy to have on THIS team

Posted by: dcjazzman | June 24, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

I just emailed Ted Leonsis (who always responds)

Ted,

As a Caps fan, I'm thrilled you're now running the Wizards.

I realize you have to be careful responding but I know that you will read my email.

Perhaps you didn't have time to find a new GM after finally winning control of the franchise. However, Ernie Grunfeld is clearly incompetent and has done poorly everywhere he's been.

Do you realize he traded what became this year's #1 pick by the Grizzlies for Javaris Crittenton? Ernie is a good man but he's no George McPhee. However, the basketball equivalent of McPhee is now available - Kevin Pritchard, formerly GM of the Trail Blazers....or hire the Asst GM of the Spurs.

Why would Ernie trade the 30th and 35th pick for Booker - a player expected to be chosen in the second round? Leave it up to Ernie to trade two picks in the first round to get a 6'7" power forward who could have been chosen in the second round! What an insane trade and a typically incompetent move by Ernie.

How does he get to be GM and keep his job? By failing at his two previous teams and failing miserably at his third? Let me ask you a question:

If tomorrow all NBA owners got the right to draft GMs, do you really think Ernie Grunfeld would be anywhere near the top or desired by any team? He's personifies failure and you've got to make the change if you have any desire to win a championship.

Regards,

Posted by: nativedc | June 25, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Wall is the future, but he hasn't played an NBA minute and isn't old enough to legally have a beer. Who do you want him playing with to learn how to play defense when he first enters the league - Arenas? I've always love Hinrich's game - smart, gritty, and a shooter's touch. He can play either position, making for a great 3 guard rotation - and pressuring Young to really up his defensive game in order to get minutes. Also, from what I've read about him, Seraphin is a non-trivial prospect who at a minimum brings solid defensive and rebounding skills. I love this trade/gift. I'm optimistic about the future, not just because of Wall, but because the team seems to keep making SMART moves.

Posted by: evilpettingzoo | June 25, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Taking Wall was a no brainer...and fans would have revolted had they passed on him. I think acquiring Kirk was a positive...but using the 17th pick on a French kid..who is several years away from even playing in the NBA...what the f***. %his team does not have the luxery of waiting a couple of years for a kid who may be able to play at the NBA level...is just stupid. There were a lot of quality forwards available who could play now. They could have taken Booker..and kept the 30 and 35th picks.

Posted by: blazerguy234 | June 25, 2010 7:26 AM | Report abuse

This draft will be remembered in years to come for one thing only. John Wall. Forget about all these other jokers who may or may not turn out to be decent players. Grunfeld will be considered a genius if Wall becomes what everyone expects him to be. He will be a failure if Wall does not live up to expectations.

Putting together a collection of highly talented prima donnas is not going to help in the development of Wall.

Hinrich can serve as an on-court coach to bring Wall to his full potential as quickly as possible, and he can complement Wall whereas someone like Arenas might compete with Wall for attention.

Hinrich's contract will expire in 2 years, which is about the time needed to fully develop Wall -- at which time you can transition to a more athletic player at a point in Wall's career where he will no longer need the stabilizing influence of a Hinrich.

I have always loved Arenas, but this needs to be Wall's team now and hopefully Arenas can land elsewhere and make a new start that will be good for him and for the Wizards who need to develop Wall as their star player.

Posted by: joyster8 | June 25, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

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