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Evan Turner's agent 'not receptive' to workout with Wizards


No need to visit Washington if it isn't serious about taking me. (AP Photo/Jeffrey Phelps)


Having the bookend selections in the first round of the June 24 NBA draft has been a blessing and a curse for the Wizards, giving them the chance to take the player they believe is the best available of the entire class, and taking the best player available before the second round.

But with the Wizards expected to take John Wall first overall since the night of the draft lottery, it has created problems for them with regards to scheduling workouts for other players. Wall will be the only player to audition for the top pick this Thursday, but I was informed by a league source that that wasn't necessarily the plan.

According to the source, the Wizards made several inquiries with Evan Turner's agent, David Falk, but Falk was not receptive, convinced that the Wizards would take Wall. He has focused all of his attention on Philadelphia, which holds the second overall pick. Falk told me last week in Boston that he thought the 76ers were a better fit for Turner.

If it seems like Falk kept Turner from going all the way through the process -- a cursory workout for the No. 1 pick couldn't hurt, even if it was just for show, right? -- understand that he started working new owner Ted Leonsis and making his pitch for Turner within a few hours after Irene Pollin's mouth dropped upon hearing about the Wizards' good fortune. Leonsis -- who helped broker the involvement of Falk's longtime client and friend, Michael Jordan, with the Wizards nearly 10 years ago -- may not have told Falk directly what the Wizards intend to do, but he probably gave him a pretty good impression.

The Wizards, however, wanted to see Turner to do their due diligence and also because there is a faction within the organization that really likes Turner and wanted to give him a fair shot (though the decision to take Wall was made pretty much while Ernie Grunfeld was in the back room at the draft lottery).

As for the 30th selection, the Wizards have only been able to work out players slated to go in the late first and early second round, because the representatives for players expected to go anywhere between the late lottery and the early 20s -- such as Texas freshman Avery Bradley or Oklahoma sophomore Willie Warren -- have either backed out or declined workouts, believing that their clients would not fall that low.

While in Chicago, the Wizards met individually with Wall and Turner and several of the top prospects, including Derrick Favors, DeMarcus Cousins, Greg Monroe, Wesley Johnson, Al-Farouq Aminu, Cole Aldrich, Ekpe Udoh, Patrick Patterson and Gordon Hayward. So they haven't had Wall tunnel vision. But at this time of the year, agents look to make power moves and establish some control, pushing for their clients to go higher, rarely lower, and refusing to waste players' time with situations that don't seem appealing.

Problem is, the Wizards are focused on more than the first and the last. Leonsis has made it clear that he would like to get another first-round pick. From what I've been told, the Wizards are eagerly in pursuit of adding a pick that falls in range of the high teens and early 20s. Some agents aren't willing to have their clients work out for Washington until they actually acquire the pick, which probably won't happen until closer to the draft or the night of the draft.

With just six players on the roster, the Wizards would like to get another young player to develop from this draft. That could possibly mean forking over $3 million to purchase a pick, but it could also come at the expense of taking back a bad contract in exchange. In 2006, the Celtics traded a future first round pick to Phoenix to get Rajon Rondo (the 21st overall selection) and Brian Grant. The following year, the Suns dealt Rudy Fernandez (the 24th overall pick) and James Jones to Portland for cash considerations. So, that is typically how these sorts of deals get done.

Teams that might be interested in moving a draft pick include the forever penny-pinching New Orleans (at No. 11), Minnesota (which has picks 16 and 23), Miami (which holds the 18th pick and is looking to clear cap space for free agency), Oklahoma City (which has the 21st and 26th pick), Atlanta (which has the 24th pick and needs to have money for a run at Joe Johnson) and Memphis (which is seeking an impact player in the draft, which might not be discovered at 12, 25 or 28).

As of right now, the Wizards will have to rely mostly on their evaluations from scouts through the college basketball season, the Chicago combine and other workout sessions in Minnesota and New Jersey (although the latter two camps had lower-rated prospects). That was going to be the case either way, with workouts often serving as confirmation for what teams already know. The Wizards' draft board is going to push them to select the best player available at whichever slot they get (remember, they never worked out JaVale McGee before taking him 18th in 2008). It would just help the process more if other parties were willing to cooperate.

By Michael Lee  |  June 15, 2010; 9:53 AM ET
 
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Comments

Falk is an a$$.

Who cares?

Another top 20 pick would be nice however.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 15, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Eagerly in pursuit of another 1st round pick? Music to mine ears, the franchise is better already

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I believe that with Leonsis's backing, Grunfeld will find a way to get another first round pick. He will probably have to eat a contract from a team that's trying to bring down their total payroll, and Grunfeld may even have to pay cash to sweeten the deal.
There are a lot of fans hoping they can do it.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 15, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

i don't like how the agents keep them from working out. i understand the business and all, but the spirit of basketball to me is you always go for the best, no matter how unexpected. it's just an attitude that carries over, the never say die kind of thing. let the kids work out for number one, because in basketball, you never know what's going to happen. even though they likely won't go number one, that attitude will pay dividends later.

Posted by: crs-1 | June 15, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

'Bird of Prey' David Falk would be my first choice of agent if I were an athlete. He's got 'inside' like nobody else.

Had some of his now broke and going broke former clients listened to him and deferred monies and spent wisely and followed his advice, they would be better off now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Falk

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 15, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

At this stage of the Draft I think it's in the best interest of a potential first rounder to "not" work out for teams.
I like hearing about possibly getting another 1st round pick.
I hope Ernie is in full wheeling & dealing mode right now.
That 11 or 12 spot looks enticing.

Posted by: VBFan | June 15, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

There are some big strong players in the 1st rd, and hopefully the Wizards consider getting one of those with their #30 pick and the much hoped for additional pick. Failing that, they will have more chances in the second rd, but they will have to gamble a lot more.

There's a Brazilian kid, Paulao Prestes who's a verified 6'10", with some promise and who draftexpress has listed as being a possible Heat draft in the 2nd round.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Paulao-Prestes-1374/
If the Wizards are willing to pay for two years to find out how good this kid is, they should draft him quick!
The other kid in the 2nd rd they should seriously take a look at is Nemanja Bjelica, another verified 6'10" who is supposed to be the next Hedo Turkoglu.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 15, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Falk is an a$$.

Who cares?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz


+1...Just listen to his comments about Gil, (the worst person ever) because he didn't need him or any of the others to essentially get a MAX deal !

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | June 15, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Or maybe they should take a look at this kid!

"The prospect has shown flashes of dominance, especially on the offensive end where his inside skills are complimented by a sweet shooting touch from the perimeter. He has looked very accurate from all ranges and his shot selection has shown almost no flaws. On the defensive end, he shows progress in each outing. He is very active on both sides of the court and has a good understanding of the game. His timing and athleticism enable him to get rebounds easily and always be a shot-blocking threat on the weak side."

Oh, that's right, they already did. That's part of the Pecherov scouting report from 2006. Don't fall too in love with a player based on his size or scouting report. That's why the Wizards bring in players like Harangody and Booker. To make sure that what the report says and what they see on video matches with the player in person.

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If Ernie "Wes" Grunfeld had not traded for Javaris Crittenton, the Wizards would have the Grizzlies first round pick this year.

It's depressing that Grunfeld is still the GM.

Posted by: nativedc | June 15, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The Memphis pick was protected.

Posted by: bobabuie | June 15, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"Oh, that's right, they already did. That's part of the Pecherov scouting report from 2006."
I'm hoping the Wiz take a big guy in the first rd., but as you can see being picked in the first rd is no guarantee either.
There are options in the second round, who knows how they will turn out.

Pecherov was picked in the 1st rd, the Wizards were willing to pay him for three years to find out what he can do for the team. They traded him and a couple other bigs (Songaila, Thomas) to get Mike Miller and Randy Foye.
And if I remember right, the Wizards did see him in action, scouted him in Europe and brought him in for a workout prior to being signed (although they already took him as a 1st rd pick).

I'm not saying the Wizards didn't do their job right then, there was a lot of good things being said about their draft picks with publicity from the Wiz during/about that time. But it's a gamble, if they are willing to pay to find out and everything turns out well, it's very good. If not, then players get traded or let go after their contract.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 15, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure withholding your client from a workout is best practice. It eliminates any chance of him going number one, and also raises red flags against his character, dedication, competitiveness and the headache of dealing with his agent. Personally, I'm kind of glad he's eliminating himself from contention as those are all characteristics we already have in surplus. Hopefully we can get another pick no later than 17 or 18, when the talent really begins to drop off. I don't see any intriguing late 1st/ early 2nd rounders like Patrick Mills, Blair, Summers or Budinger last year, although usually a player like Blair falls and is there for the taking.

Posted by: SammyT1 | June 15, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

International players are a pipe dream. I just dont see how you pick a guy like Yi Jianlin because he dominated an asian league in some grainy youtube clips. Yi refused to workout with any other players present, posted up a chair (no joke) for the Bucks and they drafted him. Retarded.

Everybody is looking for the next Dirk (or yao or manu), and surely there will be another one, but you cant tell by watching limited footage of a 6'11" guy draining 3s against shoddy competition. Or an 18yr old flipping behind the back passes in the cement shoe league for that matter.

Franchises are built on these picks, if you cant perform adequate due diligence on a player, I just don't see how you can draft them.

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

There's a lot of good PF and C prospects in the top ten rankings according to these websites.
Here's one of them:
http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/positional

Posted by: rickgonz | June 15, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing that so many ignorant (so-called) fans and (so-called experts) vent their personal feelings about Arenas in a sport they know nothing about. If Arenas was raping women like Big Ben from Pittsburg I could understand the outrage. Unloaded guns in a workplace is a forgivable offense. When Gil silences the critics next season the brain-dead chameleons will be back on the band-wagon.

Posted by: esmith4 | June 15, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If Arenas were raping women like big ben from Pittsburg I could understand the outrage regarding his personhood. Arenas will silence the critics next season

Posted by: esmith4 | June 15, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

IMHO not working out for us doesnt reflect poorly on evan turner. Falk is his agent and he's paying him to determine best course of action for him. Seems like most of these guys choose an agent, focus on basketball, and let their agent handle business...which is the whole point of paying an agent millions.

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse


Refusing the workout gives the appearance of a defeatist attitude and hopefully, it backfires on Falk and Philly goes with Favors or Cousins on draft night.

Falk is a dinosaur in the NBA. He just hasn't figured it out yet.

Posted by: gimmedat | June 15, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Unloaded guns in a workplace is a forgivable offense. When Gil silences the critics next season the brain-dead chameleons will be back on the band-wagon.

Posted by: esmith4 | June 15, 2010 12:20 PM

Silences? Are you saying next season the guns won't be unloaded?

Posted by: gimmedat | June 15, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Given how often picks are traded, I fail to understand why agents would not have their clients work out for any NBA team. It's hubristic and irresponsible to assume that the draft order will remain a constant.

Posted by: Dellis2010 | June 15, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

There's a Brazilian kid, Paulao Prestes who's a verified 6'10", with some promise

I've seen this kid on TV a number of times when I travel and he is like a "bizarro" Javal McGee (for you Superman fans).

He measures out like Javale 6'10" with a long wing span, but he is a thick (slightly doughy) built, hold his ground post player. Trouble is that he also is completely UN-athletic - heavy footed, can't jump or move around the floor well.

He would struggle to keep up with the speed of the NBA game. He isn't athletic enough to block a lot of shots from the weakside or cut off penetration and draw charges.

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 15, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, that's right, they already did. That's part of the Pecherov scouting report from 2006. Don't fall too in love with a player based on his size or scouting report"

Wise advice indeed.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

We should definitely try to move up in the 1st and go for a Larry Sanders-type player

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"It is amazing that so many ignorant (so-called) fans and (so-called experts) vent their personal feelings about Arenas in a sport they know nothing about. If Arenas was raping women like Big Ben from Pittsburg I could understand the outrage. Unloaded guns in a workplace is a forgivable offense. When Gil silences the critics next season the brain-dead chameleons will be back on the band-wagon.Posted by: esmith4"

Speaking of brain-dead...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Another team to add to the list of those willing to trade out of the first rd to find cap space could be Chicago.

They'd need to move Hinrich or Deng's contract in order to clear space for a James deal. Rumor is they'd like to move them in a sign and trade w/ Cleveland. If Cleveland's not going to bite on a sign and trade deal, Chicago could be receptive to shipping out their #1 pick this year along with Hinrich to get him off the books.

Question I've got, can a team like Chicago take Howard in a trade and then renounce the rights to his option year and free up the cap space?
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | June 15, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

That's a great question Flohr. I've heard of teams trading for players then renouncing their rights, but I don't think I've heard of it used that way.

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Some agents just feel the need to be an arse. Players they represent are usually over-rated anyway and then become problems for the team.

Posted by: pjohn2 | June 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

ESPN's Chad Ford.

Also don't be surprised if the Kings end up trading the pick for a veteran who can help the team improve immediately. With young players like Evans, Omri Casspi, Spencer Hawes and Donte Greene already on team, the Kings would like to add some experience."

Can we trade them Foye and Mike Miller? Isn't that the going rate for a #5? :)

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'd take Hinrich and the Bulls pick in a heartbeat. CaptKirk kinda sucks now, but he's only got 2yrs left on his deal and thus becomes a supposed asset as an expiring (though Mike James may disagree).

In return, he's a good backup and to the point- we're assured of having Whiteside, Udo, Sanders, Orton or some combination thereof on the board when we pick.

Getting a legit 6'10" player who isnt a reach in here would be awesome.

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

and hopefully Utah pulls a total Utah and drafts Cole Aldrich, though I suspect the authors of boards still showing him that high are being lazy and as he falls the rest of the bigs move up a spot

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"Getting a legit 6'10" player who isnt a reach in here would be awesome."

My feelings exactly.

Someone who can start and build a foundation with Wall.

I just hope it's NOT some foreign kid with "potential." We've had enough of those in recent years to know that "potential" is just another word for "bust."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 15, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

why would we take heinrich when we'll already have wall and (hopefully) shaun livingston? he can't stop or even keep up with other guards his size and doesn't shoot any better than what we've already got on the bench. the top pick with what we already have -and good health- will be enough to get us to the playoffs.

Posted by: dcjazzman | June 15, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

and hopefully Utah pulls a total Utah and drafts Cole Aldrich, though I suspect the authors of boards still showing him that high are being lazy and as he falls the rest of the bigs move up a spot

Posted by: divi3

Utah's last 5 picks have been Eric Maynor, Koufos, Morris Almond, Ronnie Brewer, and Deron Williams. Aside from Koufos, I don't even think Utah's pulling a Utah anymore.

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, if it seems like an editor never laid eyes on this sentence it may be because he lost consciousness before he completed it....

"If it seems like Falk kept Turner from going all the way through the process -- a cursory workout for the No. 1 pick couldn't hurt, even if it was just for show, right? -- understand that he started working new owner Ted Leonsis and making his pitch for Turner within a few hours after Irene Pollin's mouth dropped upon hearing about the Wizards' good fortune. Leonsis -- who helped broker the involvement of Falk's longtime client and friend, Michael Jordan, with the Wizards nearly 10 years ago -- may not have told Falk directly what the Wizards intend to do, but he probably gave him a pretty good impression. "

Posted by: natbiscuits | June 15, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Mock draft(one anyway):

http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 15, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

He didn't show because he was afraid the Wizards might pick him...

He wants to go somewhere else.

Let him go. Don't worry about it.

Posted by: muddapucker | June 15, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Washington is a toilet. Not just the team, the TOWN. AND, the bottom of the NBA, or close enough. Why would Evan Turner come to Washington? He's a smart kid. Good for him.

Posted by: JamesChristian | June 15, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey James, you're a toilet.

Regards,
Washington

Posted by: divi3 | June 15, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Washington is a toilet. Not just the team, the TOWN. AND, the bottom of the NBA, or close enough. Why would Evan Turner come to Washington? He's a smart kid. Good for him.

Posted by: JamesChristian


Nice try, David Falk.

Posted by: gimmedat | June 15, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"why would we take heinrich when we'll already have wall and (hopefully) shaun livingston? he can't stop or even keep up with other guards his size and doesn't shoot any better than what we've already got on the bench."

I have no particular interest in adding Hinrich, but in the interests of accuracy . . . the guy is one of the better defensive guards in the NBA, who frequently guards guys bigger than him and does a solid job.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 15, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This stuff from Falk is no surprise. He's had a thing against the Wiz ever since the Juwan Howard mess. But he's not doing his client any favors with this one.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 15, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Any trade with Chicago wouldn't be about getting Hinrich, it would be about manuvering to get another another 1st round pick. Without the pick involved, there's no reason to deal with Chicago.

Chicago could manuver to save about 14m in cap room with such a deal to make room for LeBron. To help make room for LeBron, giving up a 1st round pick and Hinrich could be well worth giving up. In fact it could be viewed as a bargain from their point of view.

It would involve Leonsis filling some of the cap space that Enie has manuvered to get with an overpriced veteran, in exchange for a guy like Whiteside or Alibi which seem to be slotted in that area of the first round.

Hinrich could either be bought out, or serve as a veteran B/O to Wall. He's got decent 3 ball range, that's going to be Wall's major weakness to start out with anyway.

Hinrich could also be flipped in a later deal.

Remember the Wiz will need space to resign Wall the after his rookie deal expires, so the timing of getting Hinrich off the books wouldn't be bad either.

I'd have like to have seen Livingston back, but that's far from assured, I think he was packed to leave town once the season ended. I really don't think he's going to want to B/O Wall now that he's the new point guard by default.

I'm not 100% convinced that Ernie tenders Foye an offer either.

Miami is another team that is looking to make every salary dump that they can to make a run to get D Wade some big time help. That could very well be another target of a team willing to dump a 1st round pick for cap space.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | June 15, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, these are professionals, for the teams and for the players. They know a lot more than a sound bite columnist whether it is in their client's best interest for them to be worked out by a team. The players' representatives are payed the big bucks for them to decide what is best for their players. Content to let them decide, rather than "Oh, I wish they'd be more cooperative"

Posted by: Nemo24601 | June 15, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Livingston isn't going to play on a team with two marquis players ahead of him on the depth chart for the league minimum. He'll play on a team that has championship potential and an elder statesman ahead of him. Shawn Livingston, meet Phil Jackson who Loves length. Backing up Derek Fisher would be both an ideal fiscal move and match up move for the Lakers. Shannon Brown and Farmar are free agents. Neither has contributed much in the post season. Look for Kupchak to sign Farmar to the vet minimum as the back up and and allow Shannon to walk in exchange for an unselfish point guard with great court vision that Phil can use in match up situations and clog up passing lanes. There is risk in signing a player like Shawn Livingston but players will play in LA for less thus mitigating the risk. It gives Shawn more time to prove he's healed and the Lakers the first shot at a potential All Star point guard. Wall gets as many minutes as he wants with the Washington Bullets (or JUSTICE).

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | June 15, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Shaun Livingston will play for whichever team offers him the most money. Period.

Posted by: and_1 | June 15, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Falk just cut off his nose to spite his face. Working out for any player before the draft is never a bad idea. What if the Zards liked him enough to trade down with Philly (so they could take Wall) and then pick up a few other picks from the Sixers (maybe next year, when they are just as woeful under Doug Collins?). Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | June 15, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Agreed and_1. He needs the dough, but, I don't see anyone offering him much more than the vet minimum which gives LA the advantage.

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | June 15, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Shaun Livingston will play for whichever team offers him the most money. Period."

I doubt it's that cut and dried. He worked hard to come back from what could/should have been a career ending injury, and for a good part of that time he was still collecting a Clippers paycheck, even though he wasn't playing. It's unlikely that he put all that work in just so he could spend even more time sitting and collecting a check for nothing. Livingston is still only 24 years old, not even in the prime of his career. He's going to go somewhere where he can have a real chance to play. That won't be here.

And even if it is about money . . . he's not a guy you get into a bidding war or overpay to keep. He had a few nice games, but it'll take more than that to prove that the knee is back and will hold up. And without that proof, investing serious money in him is a bad idea.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 15, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

And even if it is about money . . .

He'll also be looking for a place he can get enough playing time to make sure his next contract is not for the vet minimum.

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

"This stuff from Falk is no surprise. He's had a thing against the Wiz ever since the Juwan Howard mess. But he's not doing his client any favors with this one."

Yup.

Lots of crazier things have happend on draft day.

He could have even lost his client money if the Sixers even felt the remote possibility that the Wiz were going to draft him at #1 and willing to come up on price.

Ted probably did the Wall arm thing in his face and Falk thought he was making a "Mr.Clean" reference. ;)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 15, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

He could have even lost his client money if the Sixers even felt the remote possibility that the Wiz were going to draft him at #1 and willing to come up on price.
Posted by: rmcazz

Come up on price?

A) Not sure that makes sense, given the rookie salary structure.
B) I think the 76ers would be just as happy to take Wall if the Wiz did draft Turner #1
C) There's some speculation they may pass on Turner for Favors because he makes more sense for what they already have and if they're convinced Favors can be as good a pro.

Posted by: ts35 | June 15, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Turner's are a dime a dozen...so that's good news.....

Only 2 players that should even be considered would be Wall and Favors.
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Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | June 15, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

C) There's some speculation they may pass on Turner for Favors because he makes more sense for what they already have and if they're convinced Favors can be as good a pro."

Yeah, that's the part of "Turner's a better fit in Philly" that I find dubious. Looking at their roster, it wouldn't appear that another jack-of-all trades, swingman is a huge need of the Sixers, given the unlikelihood of Iguodala going anywhere any time soon.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 15, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

IMO Favors would be better off in Philly, because he wouldn't be expected to carry much of the scoring burden. And Evan Turner would be better off in NJ, because he would be asked to do a lot of scoring.

I was thinking about those PGs that play in the dribble-drive offense. Rondo and Tyreke Evans in particular. Rondo shot 21.2% from the arc during the regular season, and Tyreke shot 25.5%, and both are getting mentioned among the best PGs in basketball.

Pretty amazing, once you think about it. Chris Paul, by comparison, shoots 41%, Deron Williams 37.1%, Steve Nash 42.6%.

It's as if they're playing different positions altogether.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 15, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I found this post extremely informative. thanks.

Posted by: Beggarsandthieves | June 15, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

If the wizards are able to get another pick in this draft, it will go down in history as one of the best Washington drafts EVER ! Considering the three ( hypothetical)other picks after Wall, they need a backup PF, a physical (and hopefully , scoring ) C, and a SF with upside.After pick #20 you have names that are projected in that range from Booker to Piatkowski to Poindexter to Gallon ( and, not in that order).....Wow ! If any of you are wondering, the flavor of the Kool-Aid is CHERRY !

Posted by: orpheusgroupent | June 15, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Livingston's history of severe knee injuries dictates that he sign for the most money while he can.
When healthy, he's good enough to be a backup PG for any team in the NBA. So I doubt that concerns him much. Hypothetically, if teams offer him the veterans minimum and some team steps up and offers him twice that amount, there is no doubt which team he's going to sign with. He knows better than most guys his age that tomorrow is not promised. He has to cash in while he can.

Posted by: and_1 | June 15, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"If Ernie "Wes" Grunfeld had not traded for Javaris Crittenton, the Wizards would have the Grizzlies first round pick this year.

It's depressing that Grunfeld is still the GM.

Posted by: nativedc | June 15, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse "

Are there any EG draft picks or free agents on the team that have actually panned out and became long term, productive players?

What's the cliche...."garbage in, garbage out..."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 15, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

""If Ernie "Wes" Grunfeld had not traded for Javaris Crittenton, the Wizards would have the Grizzlies first round pick this year.

It's depressing that Grunfeld is still the GM.

Posted by: nativedc | June 15, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse ""

And just to pile it on to DC teams..

Clinton Portis for Champ and first round pick.

TJ Duckett for 2 picks.

Jason Taylor for 2 picks.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 15, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Get Larry Sanders


Posted by: wiz_fan | June 16, 2010 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Michael Lee stated that the Wizards have just six players on the roster. Who are the six Wizards players?

Posted by: musicmanjr | June 16, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

so when did an agent get the right to decide who his player can work out for
is he kidding me?
Stern will have a field day with this.

Posted by: egreene72681 | June 16, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The scary part of all this is Ernie and Flip get to make the decisions. The Wiz need to draft the big kid Jordan out of florida and sign a vet big. Jordan is a legit 7fter that will get better. Please don't resign the following bums
Miller
Livingston
Crittendon

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 16, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the possibility of getting Heinrich and a first round pick from Chicago is a pipedream. Heinrich is a very good player. So Grunfeld is going to say to Chicago, we will take Heinrich's contract off your hands if you give us a first round pick? Unless Chicago already had LeBron's signature on a contract, why would they do it?

Posted by: PostSubscriber | June 16, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

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