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Wizards acquire Yi Jianlian from New Jersey (updated)

The Wizards have acquired Yi Jianlian and cash considerations from the New Jersey Nets in exchange for Quinton Ross. This is the second time that the 7-foot Yi has been traded since the Milwaukee Bucks drafted him sixth overall in 2007. A versatile but unpolished forward, Yi has showed only flashes of his potential in the past three seasons. He averaged 12 points and 7.2 rebounds last season for the 12-win Nets.

"This trade is a good opportunity to add a skilled seven-footer with significant NBA experience who was the sixth overall pick in the draft just three years ago," said team President Ernie Grunfeld in a statement. "Yi fits in very well with our ongoing plan of building towards the future with a core of young, talented players."

The trade saves the Nets nearly $3 million and puts them nearly $30 million under the salary cap in order to acquire free agents in the ballyhooed class of 2010, which includes LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. The Wizards have helped two teams in their pursuit of more cap room after agreeing to take back Kirk Hinrich in a deal with Chicago on the day of the draft. They essentially got Yi for nothing since they used their $4.5-million trade exception in the deal.

By Michael Lee  |  June 29, 2010; 2:10 PM ET
Categories:  Yi Jianlian  
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Comments

Not a bad deal.Yi will be a solid backup to Dray.

Posted by: demonj21 | June 29, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

At 7 feet I wonder if they might put Yi at Center alongside Blatche at PF?

Posted by: Independent11 | June 29, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

at the very least this improves our depth, and gives insurance for the short term while testing out the large youths.

Posted by: pgugino | June 29, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

It appears that Miami is also willing to give away Michael Beasley for nothing too. Although his salary is slightly higher but he's a better talent at this stage than Yi. Beasley could start at the 4 and Blatche at the 5. I don't hate the Yi trade but I think Beasley could provide more production and moving back home may be the impetus for him to grow up.

Posted by: pln805 | June 29, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I understand this move for the nets since they got favors and more cap space but the wizards? This isn't part of the build from the draft plan, its not part of the get tougher plan since Yi isn't known for his physical D, and his salary was more than Quinten Ross.

Yi is definitely an upgrade from Ross but this doesn't make total sense.

Posted by: jefferu | June 29, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

A decent move but Yi is no big improvement in quality over Ross. Yi will not start. And don't get the impression that this guy is as good as advertised. But if he gets his head into the game, he can provide moments of quality play off the bench.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

hes gotta be better than haywood, right?

Posted by: BurgwithaU | June 29, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Yi for SINGLETON?

Posted by: glawrence007 | June 29, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Meh. One the face of it Yi-for-Ross, talent-wise makes sense (in that Yi may have some).

I also have no problem with us trying to bilk assets out of the teams who are trying so hard to win the Free Agent '09 Trophy (The Danny should give seminars). I'd just kind of hope that they'd find better things / players to get. At least have NJ throw in a second rounder next year or something.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

hes gotta be better than haywood, right?

Posted by: BurgwithaU | June 29, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I would say, "no way."

Posted by: glawrence007 | June 29, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

now lets sign Yoa

Posted by: heathdog1119 | June 29, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

No, Yi is not a better center than Haywood! And I'm no Haywood fan at all. They're different types of players.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

No YI is soft inside that's for sure.

Posted by: glawrence007 | June 29, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Yi will sell more tickets at VC than he'll add to the teams win total.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Hard to say '7-1' and 'Forward' in the same sentence. If he doesn't play 'big' in the paint nor has game like Duncan or Dirk, he's 6 fouls and not much else. I'm hoping these chess moves equal up to something substantial.

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 29, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I guess it was a necessary move though. With AJ gone and Blatche hurt, we needed someone to fill the defensive-challenged non-power forward role. :)

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's scoop up Beasley too.

Posted by: FedorEm | June 29, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

This is great for VZ it's next to china town, more people will come watch and support the wiz. Hello Diversity.

Posted by: iastdon | June 29, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Aside from the fact that he's a 7 footer who has no inside game, can't shoot, and doesnt play D.....Yi is a great pickup.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Yi averaged 12 points and 7 rebounds and is an 80.5% foul shooter for his career. I give Ernie a B- on this trade.

Posted by: jeremybozz | June 29, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Dude is 7 feet, averaged 12 and 7, and is still only 22. Ross was never going to play. Ever. Sounds like an OK pick-up to me.

Posted by: akmed0 | June 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

at least ross is gone

Posted by: BurgwithaU | June 29, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Yi shoots 36% from 3 point range and 80.5% from the foul line.

Posted by: jeremybozz | June 29, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Is this the first Asian player on the Bullets/Wizards franchise?

Posted by: wtruong | June 29, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

A Chinese guy to play next to the "Great Wall"?.

Posted by: Hoosierdaddy1 | June 29, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

jeremybozz,
I agree. He has decent stats and he's only been in the league three years. Not sure why everyone here is insinuating he's worthless.

This could be his breakout year.

Posted by: Independent11 | June 29, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The New Jersey Nets will trade Yi Jianlian and $3 million to the Washington Wizards for Quinton Ross and the Wizards' trade exception, league sources said. That's from Espn.com...It make sense if we got $3 million also

Posted by: thoffman1 | June 29, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I just have one question: Why are we eating up our cap now if we could be big players this year and/or next year? We already have Wall, Thornton, Blatche (when healthy), Hinrich (ok, good buy in that case) and possibly resign Miller. We just need a "good" free-agent this year and next year to be formidable against anything those other teams are doing to woo Lebron/Bosh/Wade. Plenty of ppl aready posted comments about Yi being soft so that isn't just an NBA concensus...it's public perception(aka-TRUTH).

Posted by: haycoach | June 29, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

No cap hit as we burn the small exception, sweet! We've still got 12.1 mill and a six exception to get a #3 stud.

#5 - McGEE
Combo 5/4 - JIANLIAN, HAMADY
#4 - BLATCHE, SERAPHIN
Combo 4/3 - BOOKER
#3 - THORNTON, ????
Combo 3/2 - ????
#2 - YOUNG, ????
Combo 2/1 - ARENAS, HINRICH
#1 - WALL

This is scary, but almost a sure bet to be in the lottery again.

Minimum three players to go. I guess FLIP has been given orders to play someone other than vets this upcoming season.

LEONSIS, I understand staying around D.C. to generate hype, but I hate you for taking training camp out of RICHMOND.

Posted by: glawrence007 | June 29, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I just have one question: Why are we eating up our cap now if we could be big players this year and/or next year? We already have Wall, Thornton, Blatche (when healthy), Hinrich (ok, good buy in that case) and possibly resign Miller. We just need a "good" free-agent this year and next year to be formidable against anything those other teams are doing to woo Lebron/Bosh/Wade. Plenty of ppl aready posted comments about Yi being soft so that isn't just an NBA concensus...it's public perception(aka-TRUTH).

Posted by: haycoach | June 29, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Yi will sell more tickets at VC than he'll add to the teams win total."

My thoughts exactly!

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | June 29, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Whats the $4.5 million trade exception? can anyone explain?

Posted by: nford2 | June 29, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Aside from the fact that he's a 7 footer who has no inside game, can't shoot, and doesnt play D.....Yi is a great pickup.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse
-------------------------------------------Ditto! Unless you trading for Dirk Nowitzki, A 7 footer with no inside game is a joke. I wonder how long Leonsis is going to put up with Grunfield's sorry azz wheeling & dealings.

Posted by: akjproductions | June 29, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What happened to bringing in tougher, more physical players?

Posted by: bozomoeman | June 29, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Yi's stats are misleading in that he takes less than one 3pt attempt per game and doesnt got to the line very much. He's a paper soft 7 footer who has spent his nba career (so far) hanging out on the perimeter shooting over guys who arent big enough to challenge him. Which is ok I guess, so long as you dont sign him thinking you're getting a big.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting to see what MAJOR signing the Wiz make. They have enough cap space to sign a "superstar" to a max contract. Why no hot pursuit of Amare' Stoudamire or Chris Bosh? With J Wall, Gil coming back, and a "max player" signed, this team could make some noise in the NBA east. Of course not win the conference, but they could win 48-52 games with those kind of players added to what they have now...providing fortunes proceed as normal (which is saying a lot with the Wiz).

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

There's only one reason why this trade was made. Yi's potential as a basketball player is limited - although he's only 22 years old, he only made 40% of his field goals last year. That does not portend well for a 7 foot power forward in the NBA. However, Yi draws a huge following in China. Having Yi on the Wizards makes them marketable in the biggest market in the world. In otherwords, it's a shrewd business decision to focus the eyes and wallets of chinese consumers on Wizards merchandise.

Posted by: roundabout | June 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Good move by the Bullets. They are feasting on all the teams desperate to open up cap space for Lebron.

Posted by: lavar609 | June 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"The Nets also sent $3 million to the Wizards."


The Wizards gotta get that cash. Lol.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | June 29, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

ArmChairQB,

I was all for Ted buying the team and now I am scared to death he is going to follow in his mentors (Abe) footsteps by putting making a profit ahead of winning a championship...

No wonder he kept Ernie?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

There is some discussion whether he is really 22 years old. What do we know about his game? He dragged his feet about playing in Milwaukee, and was a role player on a 12 win team. There are major questions on this young/older man.

Posted by: audacitea | June 29, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Mcgee, blatche, Yi, areans, wall

backup
young
thornton
booker
henrich

Posted by: Bigmon411 | June 29, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse


Unless you trading for Dirk Nowitzki, A 7 footer with no inside game is a joke. I wonder how long Leonsis is going to put up with Grunfield's sorry azz wheeling & dealings.


Posted by: akjproductions | June 29, 2010 2:53 PM

You guys are hilarious. Did you really think you'd get the likes of a Nowitzki for a trade exception? LMAO!

Posted by: bobabuie | June 29, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a strange move... Yi doesn't seem to have much heart.

Posted by: MeviousMan | June 29, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I hope there is a realistic plan in place to bring some muscle in.

Posted by: millineumman | June 29, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Why why WHY

Oops Yi. : )

He should be in the last year or two of his rookie contract. He has a year to earn a spot on the 2011-12 team and a new contract.

Like the move. I see him playing the 3 before 5 though.

And would love to see Beasley move up here more so.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | June 29, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bozomoeman | June 29, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"Good move by the Bullets. They are feasting on all the teams desperate to open up cap space for Lebron."

The Wiz will not win any championship by signing a bunch of players other teams didn't want. These teams are not dropping "championship" type players for the Wiz to pick up. Guys like Heinrich and Yi aren't any better than the guys already in the Wiz lockerroom. Let's not kid ourselves. One or two of these guys are okay, but they need to target a "super player" who can make a difference. Please don't waste cap space on "average" players.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse


Yi will sell more tickets at VC than he'll add to the teams win total.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:31 PM


That's true of John Wall too. Or do you think he'll add hundreds of thousands to the Wiz's win total? Let the nonsense continue!

Posted by: bobabuie | June 29, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he's aquiring more trade assets to include in a package deal w/Arenas for example.

Posted by: millineumman | June 29, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

if we do trade gil for vince, i think we can have a legit contending roster next year!!!

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Poll question...

Who will have more wins next year?

Nets or Wizards

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Not a bad trade of Yi for Ross without hurting our salary cap position. Ross wasn't going to play at all next year so at least the Wiz added some depth. Given the uncertainy over Blatche's broken foot, Yi will at a minimum provide depth at PF. He's also a pretty good 3-point shooter which we need at both the 3 and the 4. Not much downside considering Yi is in the 3rd year of his rookie contract. If he turns out to be a good player, we'll be able to hold on to him for a 4th year at a relatively cheap price.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 29, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

yo, something really must be up with Beasley's rep if the Heat are WILLINGLY giving away the #2 pick of the 08 draft (who's not a bust) for nothing and yet we (or any team for that matter) are not going after him. Wow.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

http://www.clickorlando.com/magic/24076330/detail.html

The Wiz would be quite foolish to give up Arenas for Vince "I Choke in the Playoffs" Carter. Like it or not, Arenas is going to have a great year--for somebody. We suffered through the bad, why not keep him and let him shine for us instead of someone else. It would be depressing to see him make Orlando the Eastern Div Champs. This will say a lot about where this franchise is going. Like someone said earlier, I'm seeing money issues take front and center as opposed to winning.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Based on potential I'll take Yi over Ross. this didn't cost the Wizards anything but time. for those clamoring for big time free agents to come to Washington, its not going to happen. none of them guys (top free agents) wants to be apart of a rebuilding process and this is exactly what is going on. maybe the Wiz have a shot at Rudy Gay being he is a restricted free agent but I wouldn't pay him max money at this point in his career. if you are not the player the fans are coming to see or buying out his jersey then you should not be making max dollars in my opinion. it is going to be hard to judge this offseason until the season starts and we see how this team plays. until then all judgement should be measured. leonis said from the very beginning that he will not go for the "big splash" this offseason being he tried and failed doing it the daniel snyder way with the caps before. if anything we are shaping up to being one of the youngest teams in the league right now. let the moves and offseason play out. at the end of the day, they got Yi (22 year old, 3 year vet) for Ross (29 year old journey man) and got 3 million in the process. sounds like a win so far to me.

oh and beasley will not be making his way to washington. you really want to add a player who has still yet to develop maturely to a team with a 19 year old #1 pick? its a reason he is still in Miami...nobody else wants him.

Posted by: odash | June 29, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I am a life long Caps fan and not much of a basketball one BUT I wanted to chime in on what Leonsis is doing. He is BUILDING the team from scratch. Next year is going to be a long one for Wizard fans they will not win but they are getting to a point where when Wall is good the team will be good. Leonsis spends money when it is time to spend money. The Caps will be up against the cap this year like they were last year. They flamed out in the playoffs this year but you can print playoff tickets for next year right now knowing they will be in it. Leonsis has plan in place for the Wizards - he is the best owner in the NHL and I assume he will be the best owner in the NBA. An NBA team is a lot easier to turn around than an NHL team and it shouldnt take more than 2 years for this team to be in the playoffs.
Give Leonsis some time dont go nuts when the Wizards sit on the sidelines of Free Agency and not make a BIG splash.

Posted by: MaidenFan | June 29, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

How can this trade even be questionable? We got rid of Ross for Yi, both have 1 year left, but Yi has more potential and has more value as a frontcourt player. This sint about money either.

We traded 1 year of a useless Ross for a potentially semi-valuable Yi. This is a clearcut A, not because I think Yi will be good - but having him for next year or as an asset is leaps and bounds mor evaluable than Ross....?

Posted by: BACKS | June 29, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

vince will be here for one year because his contract expires...

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Wix intent on helping everyone clear capspace. What is Yi position? he has none that is why he has struggles(generously stated) in the league to date. He can NEVER play the post at best he is a oversized wing. The Wiz drafted 3 guys with limited offense, you cannot depend on Blatche and What will they get for Arenas? Eddie Curry or Gortat? This is a bad, baad team. Wall will have to be better than Magic was his rookie year for these dudes to crack 500.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | June 29, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

First of all all these teams are not just getting rid of garbage players these are quality players. And as we know you cant get a championship by signing big money stars to play with each other-remember redskins with Deion Sanders and crew. Gortat, Carter, Jianlin, Hinrick could be a starting lineup anywhere in the nba and a good one. Gortat could split time with Mcgee. Yi with Blache. Thornton and Carter could play both the 2 and 3 sometimes. Sounds nice and a playoff team. Maybe not championship but a playoff team.

Posted by: Gusdaberean1 | June 29, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Traded for garbage with garbage plus some cap space we don't intend to use.

Forget about "potential," that's the word you use on the draft day, not now.

Posted by: sagaliba | June 29, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the great FA class is not beating a path to the Wiz's door, so it seems we are skimming up the second-tier assets the big boys are now madly throwing overboard as they try to get more skin in the FA game.

If so, it seems like a fairly realistic pragmatic Wiz approach, especially if it's part of a 2-3 year plan based on the assumption that we'll be terrible for at least another year or two while Wall gets his feet.

And now Ted gets to sell merchandise in China.

Posted by: ArchieTambo | June 29, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Bea-sley!!!!!!Bea-sley!!!!!!!Bea-sley. C'mon Ernie make it happen. As long as you get him for nothing, it can't hurt.

Posted by: washwizkids | June 29, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Good short term chess move. Yi's deal expires next summer and the Nets chipped in additional cheddar. He'll have a built in cheering section (kinda like Blake & Dixon did) when he's on the floor.

IF the Wizards sign another guard, however, I think it should be Livingston. He won't cost much and has proven to be a more than adequate point guard.

Posted by: elfreako | June 29, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Good move. Skilled "big" man, can knock down the mid-range jumper. Should get plenty of open looks with Wall's penetration. Nice back-up for Blatche or even play some along side with him. 7 boards a game is not bad considering he played with Lopez last yeat who got the majority of rebounds.

Posted by: garg8050 | June 29, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, but no to Beasly. He has some decent moments but spends to majority of his team looking very average. The Wiz have Wall. I think they could use a really good small forward or shooting guard for the future and rest of the team should be hard hat guys.

Posted by: millineumman | June 29, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I thought teams could not trade Traded Player Exceptions.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 29, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

yo, something really must be up with Beasley's rep if the Heat are WILLINGLY giving away the #2 pick of the 08 draft (who's not a bust) for nothing and yet we (or any team for that matter) are not going after him. Wow.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 3:19 PM

Think Rod Strickland without the chilli dogs right before tip-off and you'll be close when it comes to Beasley. He can play but he's not worth the hassle imo.

Posted by: bobabuie | June 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

How can this trade even be questionable? We got rid of Ross for Yi, both have 1 year left, but Yi has more potential and has more value as a frontcourt player. This sint about money either.

We traded 1 year of a useless Ross for a potentially semi-valuable Yi. This is a clearcut A, not because I think Yi will be good - but having him for next year or as an asset is leaps and bounds mor evaluable than Ross....?

Posted by: BACKS | June 29, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Someone with some common sense. Acting like we traded away someone that was going to play.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Yi was a failure in NJ but you can't teach 7 feet. Worth the project.

Posted by: flee001 | June 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Can't teach height

Posted by: DaveLopan | June 29, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Lots of contracts will be expiring in the next couple of years, which will be trade bait down the line. We weren't realistically in the running for a big name this year, but now we will be down the line a little bit. And if Yi pans out, then we have a talented 7 footer. Continuous great moves by Leonsis. He did it with the Caps, he's gonna do it with the Wiz.

Posted by: fcollins1 | June 29, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

This is a great trade by the Wizards. The Wiz literally get a free look at a 22yr old 7 footer, Yi's contract is only guaranteed for next season and is only $3mil more than Ross' contract, so if the Wiz are getting $3mil in the deal than Yi was free.

Also Yi will sell tickets and a lot of jerseys for the Wiz. It will also get hundreds of millions of chinese fans to watch Wizards games where they will probably fall in love with John Wall and hopefully by his jersey as well.

So actually Yi is making us money, so even if he plays horribly this will still be a great trade for the Wiz.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | June 29, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Rethought, I got it now. From the point of view of the Wizards (the receiver of Yi) the trade exception allowed them to receive a higher-salaried player in place of Ross.
This used up one of their trade exceptions received last season.

For the sender NJ, the trade allowed them to obtain a new trade exception generated by Ross's lower salary.

Posted by: rickgonz | June 29, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Addition by subtraction - say what you want about Arenas having a great year next season, but the Wiz don't want him near Wall or any of their young players. The whole thing about embracing Gil is a smokescreen so that he can be unloaded. Orlando is equally as desperate to part with Vince Carter but for different reasons and they know that Gortat is not the backup center they need to go further in the playoffs.

The Wiz would have only one year left of VC's exorbinant contract instead of 4 with Agent Zero. Gortat is serviceable and would be a decent backup to McGee while he develops. I think this trade will be done in the next few days.

Posted by: wizfan89 | June 29, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Not always easy to see the end game, if it was we would all be GM's.

Posted by: flee001 | June 29, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Doesnt Gortat make like $30 million dollars?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"if we do trade gil for vince, i think we can have a legit contending roster next year!!!

Trade or no trade, the only thing we'll be "contending" for next year is the most balls in the hopper come lottery time. I just want to see continued development by the Wizards' young players and promise on the part of the new-comers.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 29, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Let's call this a nice move.

Yi has only one non-restricted year on his contract. Next season, the Wiz can decide if they want to make a qualifying offer to Yi and keep him longer. So Yi has a one-season tryout. Yi has some upside, while Ross does not. Ross was the one dead-weight guy on the roster. Now there are none of those. No negativity necessary on this.

With the cash coming in from NJ, the salaries of Ross (who also has one year guaranteed) and Yi are equalized. Therefore, it is a straight trade for a guy who can play some (Yi) vs. a guy who has shown he can't. There is nothing to dislike about this deal.

Look at Yi's numbers over 36 minutes. The guy can score some and he rebounds pretty well! Since the Wiz are not in the LeBron, Bosh, Wade, etc. sweepstakes, why not pick Yi up for free?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jianlyi01.html

And don't worry about the cash coming back to the Wiz. Leonsis wants to build this team to a championship level, and the odds are good that he will genuinely contend for the big prize after a few-years rebuilding phase.

Posted by: EdDC | June 29, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Uncle Ted sees the big picture. He's playing chess while other teams, Bulls, Nets, Knicks et al are playing checkers. He is building a team with an eye on the future, the summer of 2012! When all of these teams will be capped up, the Zards will have their pick of the likes of the Lopez twins, Horford, Durant, j. Green, k. Love, even more so if they can get of Gil's contract! (HOPEFULLY!!!!)
This team WILL be built around Wall, a penetrating guard who will excel at the pick and roll. Yi is a good outside shooter, who will pop out and stick the 15 footer in the pick and pop. I agree Yi doesnt fit the new philosophy of "tougher on D", but we can't have all "dogs" out there.

Also while picking up the likes of Hinrich and Yi, Leonsis is weakening our competitors in the East, taking away a decent talent in Hinrich and a bench role player in Yi. You can't have a team of 2-3 all stars and no role players. Now if he could just package Gil and Dre for another expiring contract...(wishful thinking)

Posted by: samisunc | June 29, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand this move. Can this guy or does this guy help the team? I'm seeing a team with a hodgepodge of players with no identity. This move contradicts the message from just this past week.

is this a move for future cap space? is this for the run after Carmelo next year?

Posted by: oknow1 | June 29, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I think EG is doing his job so well.
He has to push the trade with orlando,to get a dependable defenssivce minded center gortat for a small contract.Carter will be with us only this year, he might also negotiate for buy out to go to another contender.he got Yi with 4.5 million trade exemption + 3million +1.2 million,so Yi is playing for washington in 2010-11 season for 300,000.washington has already declared that they are not going to get expenssive players in the coming season.
washington is ready to be the major free agent signer after this season.

Posted by: gtefferra | June 29, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Obvious comment perhaps, but it is truly amazing how much this team has changed already in the past 12 months (and it's probably not over). I can barely keep up.

Posted by: ArchieTambo | June 29, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Yi is not garbage as some have suggested... He is barely a Senior in college at 22 years old... The guy is inconsistent like most younger NBA players probably because he has had injuries the last couple of years that have slowed his development.

His last 5 games last year... he averaged 16.2 ppg / 10.4 rpg / 2.2 blocks, not to mention he went to the line alot & shot well... If he can remain healthy, this could be a breakout year. Way more upside than Ross. Good trade... Makes you wonder if Abe handcuffed EG with his loyalties.

Posted by: tony325 | June 29, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"So actually Yi is making us money, so even if he plays horribly this will still be a great trade for the Wiz."

I care that Yi is a 22-year-old (we think) 7-footer with some upside. I couldn't care less about the 3 million the team is getting from the Nets or whether Yi makes Uncle Teddy and his partners any money. None of that gives the team any additional cap room or gets them any closer to contending for a title.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | June 29, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

the wiz probably won't trade for beasley beacuse of all his baggage. all the teams in the league think that his heart isn't in the game and the fact that he went to rehab isn't helping. the team wants to change the culture of the team, I don't see adding beasley helping that.

in addition, beasley is very inconsistent on the court.

Posted by: dcsports12 | June 29, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

hinrich knows how to win and has been apart of good teams . This offseason will be alright if we can sign Amare i think it will be a successful offseason. I bet there is a free agent out there or two that would love play with Wall and maybe Arenas. Wizards could land somebody. Know one can tell me that the Knicks and Nets would have better pieces to win then the WIz who have Arenas Wall Hinrich Blatche McGee Thorton YI and Miller they got pieces

Posted by: cjdwolfpack | June 29, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Nets...

Owner Mikhail Prokhorov net worth 19.5 billion

Wizards...

Owner Ted Leonsis net worth 1 billion

Nets...

Coach Avery Johnson

Wizards...

Coach Flip Saunders

Nets...

PG Harris
SG Ray Allen
SF Favors
PF Stoudemire
C Lopez


Wizards...

PG Hinrich
SG Gil
SF Thorton
PF Blatche
C McGee

Which team wins more games?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

It's like the Caps having 4 Russians on their team (a couple years ago). Suddenly the whole Russian nation was staying up at ungodly hours to watch Capitals games. With Yi and the possibility of Sun Yue being on the bench at #12, the Wizards suddenly become suddenly & completely a marketable team in China.
David Stern must love it!

Posted by: rickgonz | June 29, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people. EG is getting ready not for this year's free agency. He wants to C Anthony. The guy grew up in this area. Camillo will be a Wizard in 2011. And I also want them to get Durant. But that is wishful thinking. But I am saying this now. EG and Flip want Camillo Anthony!!!

Posted by: eddie5 | June 29, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

C'mon people. EG is getting ready not for this year's free agency. He wants to C Anthony. The guy grew up in this area. Carmelo will be a Wizard in 2011. And I also want them to get Durant. But that is wishful thinking. But I am saying this now. EG and Flip want Carmelo Anthony!!!

Posted by: eddie5 | June 29, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Some of you have gotten this wrong. I, for one, never criticized the Yi trade for Ross. That, in itself, was a good move. I only said that Yi is no great player. And he's not. But neither was Ross. My concern was that adding Heinrich first, and now Yi--the Wiz don't seem to be increasing the talent level of the team. It's like they're chasing "average" status...in hopes of something down the road. I think they have a good chance to be a very good team in '10-11, not '13-14 if they try targeting better players--not just more average players. If the superstars don't want to come here, fine. At least give it a shot!

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I completely forgot about the Sun Yue move.....no doubt acquiring Yi was more about marketing than anything else. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's a business and who wants QRoss anyway.

But let's be real about the player.....Yi is so good that he's a 7 footer on his 3rd team in his first 4 years. Two organizations have given up on him and he's 23yrs old. All I'm saying is don't hold your breath waiting for him to improve much, because that's not why he was signed.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

BF78...still bitter.

Ray Allen and Amare play for the Nets now? And Favors is a SF.

Sure.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse


Ernest Grunfeld is building the team brick by brick (forgive the pun, but I couldn't help it considering Yi's field goal percentage) and we'll be better off for it in the long run. Yi has all the upside that Ross did not, especially if Yi can get minutes at the position he was born to play--small forward. He can also get some minutes as the second-unit power forward.

Stay tuned, folks, Ernest is just getting started. There is a LOT of interest in Gilbert Arenas.

Posted by: melodious_thunk | June 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Nets...

Coach Avery Johnson

Wizards...

Coach Flip Saunders

Nets...

PG Harris
SG Ray Allen
SF Favors
PF Stoudemire
C Lopez


Wizards...

PG Wall
SG Hinrich
SF Vince
PF Blatche
C Gortat

Which team wins more games?
Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

The nets will win more games, but neither team will be hoisting the L.o'B trophy next year either and both will be in Secaucus next year for the draft lottery...

Posted by: samisunc | June 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

NBA trades can be really hard for some fans to understand because of how complicated the Salary Cap rules are.

So, I will try to give my 2-cents and see if that helps any.

Let's compare Yi to Ross:

Both are guys on the last year of a contract who most likely see only limited minutes.

The benefits to Yi are that he has much more upside as a versatile 7ft 22-year-old, he has at least one useful skill (off. Rebs), and the big one is that since his contract is larger it is more useful as an expiring contract at the trade dealine.

The negative would have been the money owed to him, but NJ is paying it with the $3mil they gave the Wiz.

BOTTOM line: Even if Yi turns out to be a waste of space, his expiring contract could help the Wizards add a useful piece who has 2 or 3 years left on a deal paying just a couple million more per year than Yi's deal. It will probably be easier for the Wizards to add players already under contract through trades this year than it would be woo them to sign w/the climate of today's NBA (too much competition).

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

NothingButTheTruth,

From everything I've heard, I don't think the owners/front office are trying to build a "great" or even "good" team this year. Next season will be about developing Wall and the rest of the young core. Hinrich will serve as a mentor to Wall and back up. Yi might work out and if he doesn't then he's gone after next year.

It's all about 2 seasons or so from now.

Posted by: dcsports12 | June 29, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

We do NOT neet Vince for Gil!! Are you people MAD, Vince is WASHED UP. Nor should we want Gortat...ERNIE, if Gil is not part of this team with Wall...no season tickets here. At least give Gil a shot & if you do have to trade him (WORST GM EVER) don't trade him within the division!!!

Oh, I guess Josh Howard is done too! So what did we get for Caron, Hay, D Steve, and last years lottery pick? On Ernies watch?

Posted by: Gooddad | June 29, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

want to come here, fine. At least give it a shot!

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse
_____________________________

Not this year... we got no play for Lebron, Bosh, or Wade... These are the hot guys... Forget about Joe Johnson, Boozer, & Stoudemire... they are all going to be overpaid!!! Johnson shoots too much, Boozer injured all the time & Stoudemire doesn't play any defense at all.

I just hope that Wade/Lebron doesn't happen... but Lebron/Bosh/Rose/Noah in Chicago would be awfully hard to overcome. I just hope the Wizards didn't change the whole landscape of the NBA with their Hinrich deal.

Posted by: tony325 | June 29, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"skilled seven-footer?"

More like journeyman 7 footer, 3 teams in 3 yrs! Seriously, I do not see where Yi's "skill" is. A 7-footer who likes to shoot jump shots, but is slightly less accurate than Q Ross, who everyone agrees, isn’t a good shooter!

Posted by: sagaliba | June 29, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

the only reason gil would be traded for VC is because gil has 4 years and about $80 million left, while Carter has 1 year left.

The trade would be about moving Gil's contract for an expiring contract. Not about VC's talent or anything

Posted by: dcsports12 | June 29, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

But let's be real about the player.....Yi is so good that he's a 7 footer on his 3rd team in his first 4 years. Two organizations have given up on him and he's 23yrs old. All I'm saying is don't hold your breath waiting for him to improve much, because that's not why he was signed.

Posted by: divi3

Hmmmm, a player going into his fourth year, averaging around 12 and 7, who has flashed talent, but lacks consistency......I don't know div, sounds like one of your favorite Wizards before the start of last season.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Gortat is a pretty good center. He's behind Dwight Howard in the rotation. In other words, he's behind one of the best 5s in the NBA.

When Gortat plays, he shows pretty good agility for a big, a defensive mindset, and good hands. He was on his way to starting for Dallas before Orlando matched the Mavs' offer.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/players/hollinger?playerId=2758

Posted by: lug21 | June 29, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

DC Sports--

Normally I would agree they should just rebuild. But three recent developments give me reason to think success now! First, Andre Blatche blossomed into a potential superstar at the end of last season, showing the skills of a consistent 24 and 12 big man. Second, the Wiz got the first pick in the draft (J Wall). Third, the team forgave Arenas and recognized he's still a great player who can give you 25 every night. Add in quality guys like Josh Howard and Thornton for bench support. Then the key, to me is, if they can add another all-star-caliber player with the $12-13 mil they have under the cap, this team is suddenly pretty darn good!! Let's not blow an opportunity because people want to chase Gil out of town over some silly lockerroom horseplay. Take a deep breath and think about the possibilities of what they could have right now.

Posted by: NothingButTheTruth | June 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if you all are watching the same league i am.

There is no future you win NOW not later!
This is not the NFL!
Why arent the wizards dumping people?
Do they ever want to win?
The best young player is up for grabs but the wizards are not competing to aquire his service.
Outside of Oklahoma this tactic never works,especially for the wizards did i not hear this same thing five years ago?

The guy is softer than a fresh pretzel!
This is not good in the east you have to be able to bang.

Posted by: shamken | June 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Steady Teddy being like Abe?

Chants for Beasley?

Crack must be on sale, two for $20

Teddy builds TEAMS that compete. A cup will be here within 3 years.

Beasley is a headcase. His so called 'upside' potential will never be reached because he already thinks he's 'something'. Put that with Blatche and you might as well bring Stevenson back to mentor them in how to be unprofessional fools.

Wall needs running mates who want to play ball, not dudes who wanna live 'the life' and post up at the club iced out and tatted up.

We've all seen this movie before and these younguns all end up the same: broke, chick/babymama drama and nothing to show for their time in the league. Beasley is well on his way to joining JR Rider, Sprewell, OlayI'mCandy, and all them other broke fools who squandered their talent over weed/drink/chicks. Strickland, nothing...CWebb, nothing...Juwann, 108 mil but nothing. Even their boy Jalen better known for commentating on Mike and Mike than for balling. All were young and talented and all didn't do squat but get paid. And at least Juwann played to his capabilities, but CWebb? Please...

We should be tired of this BS by now...Like Singletary said 'We want WINNERS'

Posted by: kahlua87 | June 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"Nets...
PG Harris
SG Ray Allen
SF Favors
PF Stoudemire
C Lopez

Wizards...
PG Hinrich
SG Gil
SF Thorton
PF Blatche
C McGee
Which team wins more games?
Posted by: bulletsfan78"

I guess bulletsfan78 let John Wall go for the MLE...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm, a player going into his fourth year, averaging around 12 and 7, who has flashed talent, but lacks consistency......I don't know div, sounds like one of your favorite Wizards before the start of last season.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 4:17 PM

Aside from the fact that Yi has started about 50 games a year every season and never played less than 23mins/night, and is 40% career shooter, their situations are identical. Gee, dont know how I missed that.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Other than reliving salary cap for Nets (and therefore makes LeBron lottery more interesting), I don't see how this trade benefits Wiz.

Now instead of watching Ross shooting bricks, we will be watching Yi shooting bricks.

Oh well, it probably doesn't hurt either, but I just don't see the benefit.

Posted by: sagaliba | June 29, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

YI's number have increased three straight years. He is growing and young which is a good combo. Yi is getting better and now he can improve even more here in DC.

Posted by: Gusdaberean1 | June 29, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I was expecting Wiz making more moves to shore up the 3 spot, I just hope this isn't it!

Posted by: sagaliba | June 29, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

NothingButTheTruth,

I completely agree that what you are saying is possible, but even with that team there would still be superior teams in the East. I think the owners are trying to develop something for a year to determine what pieces are necessary to build a championship team. The idea that the team "is just one player away" won't work.

I'm a big Gil supporter. He messed up, but he's paid for it and I still think he can contribute. The only thing is that he will contribute as a SG, not PG, which will also take time to adjust.

Wall won't play at a high level for a year or so as well.

I'm not sold on Blache because I don't know if he could physically hold up playing at the level he did for a whole season. Also, he can be an idiot and hurt the locker room if he doesnt get as many plays as he got last season when no one else could score

Posted by: dcsports12 | June 29, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Ok now that I have read more about the deal and not just reacted to the deal it is not that bad, given the Wiz will get ~3M in considerations. It is almost $$ for $$ and Yi is 7 years younger than Ross and about the same age as Blatche. If you are getting rid of Howard it is a good move.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | June 29, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

1-Wall
2-Carter
3-Thorton
4-Blatch
5-Gortat

Backups
Hinrich
NY
McGee
Yi
Booker
Seraphin

Are you telling me this team would not be competitive next year (asides from the fact that that Vince Carer will probably be a one year rental). I know that is not the reason for fielding this team, however, this team is young and talented. VC is a more traditional 2 that will work better with Wall then Gil. I stick by what I said before, if we field this team, we will be quite competitive.

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Aside from the fact that Yi has started about 50 games a year every season and never played less than 23mins/night, and is 40% career shooter, their situations are identical. Gee, dont know how I missed that.

Posted by: divi3

I know, right? It's like he's already ahead of the AB learning curve.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

"More like journeyman 7 footer, 3 teams in 3 yrs! Seriously, I do not see where Yi's "skill" is. A 7-footer who likes to shoot jump shots, but is slightly less accurate than Q Ross, who everyone agrees, isn’t a good shooter!Posted by: sagaliba"

You forgot to mention a couple other differences. Like:

Yi 7', Q Ross 6'6"
Yi 250lbs, Q Ross 193lbs
Yi 23 years old, Q Ross 29 years old
Yi in '09, 51 starts, Q Ross 7 starts
Yi in '09 31.8 minutes, Q Ross 10.8 minutes
Yi on 3 pointers 36.6%, Q Ross 19%
Yi on FTs 80.5%, Q Ross 51.7%

So as you can see, they're virtually the same player.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I know, right? It's like he's already ahead of the AB learning curve.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 4:32 PM

Since apparently you just like to argue for the sake of it, I'll put you down as saying that Yi is a better player than Blatche and we can let the upcoming season decide.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"Think Rod Strickland without the chilli dogs right before tip-off and you'll be close when it comes to Beasley. He can play but he's not worth the hassle imo."
Posted by: bobabuie

He's troubled in an Andre "Bad Moon" Rison kind of way to me. At any rate, the Wizards should pass on Beasley.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I guess bulletsfan78 let John Wall go for the MLE...

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I know Flip doesn't like playing young guys so I made him a backup

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I know Flip doesn't like playing young guys so I made him a backup

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Flip said that Wall will get the ball most of the time. Flip will start Wall, no question about it...

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Yi > Ross and costs the Wiz no extra $$ because of the trade exception.... very savvy move EG.

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | June 29, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Yi will sell more tickets at VC than he'll add to the teams win total."

My thoughts exactly!


Posted by: bazookajoe1 | June 29, 2010 2:50 PM |

Damn - Teddy L need to get rid of the stupid Wiz fans quick.
You know China Town is like 1 block by 1 block big now right because of all the mixed used developments that have torn down everything except that 1x1.
How many tickets you think you can sell to the supposed inhabitants of that 1x1?

Mer for brains.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse
the nets signed Amare and Ray Allen? C'mon son is this candyland make up your scenario?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 29, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Forget EG, He's already shown us nuthin for years and years. But I'll take Avery Johnson anyday. And if he doesn't want this dude on his team, and there's no way NJ made the deal without consulting Avery, especially since they don't even have a GM now, then I'm real skeptical. Just wish Avery was coaching us up instead of Flipper. Couldn't we trade ole Flip and EG for Avery. Straight up.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 29, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

This may have been said already. The Wizards upgraded with this trade. The Wizards traded a guy who averages 4 PPG for guy who averages 9 PPG. You can't teach or create height so there is more size. Yi will get off of the bench. Ross' butt was destined to stay on the pine. The Wizards got $3M to pay Yi so they are not coming out of pocket for more than they were due to pay Ross. Plus...THEY USED THE TRADE EXEMPTION, WHICH MEANS IT WON'T POST AGAINST THE CAP. Hence, they got taller, more points, and size...for FREE.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: BoneMarrow | June 29, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Damn - Teddy L need to get rid of the stupid Wiz fans quick.
You know China Town is like 1 block by 1 block big now right because of all the mixed used developments that have torn down everything except that 1x1.
How many tickets you think you can sell to the supposed inhabitants of that 1x1?

Mer for brains.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So all of the Chinese poeple in DC MD and VA live in chinatown downtown DC?????????? C'mon Rocco.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 29, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Carmelo will be a Wizard in 2011/2012. Unfortunately the Curse of Les Boulez is still in play - the lockout will keep him off the VC court.

Posted by: Kev29 | June 29, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"Forget EG, He's already shown us nuthin for years and years. But I'll take Avery Johnson anyday. And if he doesn't want this dude on his team, and there's no way NJ made the deal without consulting Avery, especially since they don't even have a GM now, then I'm real skeptical."

Posted by: dovelevine

Maybe Johnson did want Yi, but the Wizards insisted and Nets management overruled him to complete the deal. One never knows.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

You all are funny!

Good move Ernie, you and your staff are rolling. And I am really enjoying reading these clowns eating crow.

We don't need a big-time star player this year. Just keep Josh Howard. That will be plenty of fire power. With all due respect; ...the boy shoots the lights out.
I know; you are thinking "we need muscle"

Not neccesarily, a little boxing-out goes a long way. The Wizards are long and tall like Sally, with huge gaurds. Strong legs get rebounds, I give you Dennis Rodman. Although he wasn't a huge "Big", he use natural instinct, masterful boxing-out, his eyes, ears and every weapon in his wedding dress wearing arsenal to get rebounds in bunches.

With them little shorts on that they used to wear they looked like frog-legs but they wear strong. Dennis was fun to watch and he won championships with multiple teams. Furthermore, did you know that Rodman was a big scorer before he committed himself to rebounding. He won one with the Pistons and MJ.
And how come nobody but me has seen a direct-connection between Greg Monroe and Le Bron James. They are both point forwards with superb passing skills. Huh!

Peace-Out!, Chef John

Posted by: upscalechef | June 29, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Manut Bole. Shawn Bradley. Nothing more.

Posted by: g0tcha | June 29, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Yi's in Chinatown now - maybe that will inspire the guy. No loss in losing Q.Ross.

Posted by: boblas | June 29, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Since apparently you just like to argue for the sake of it, I'll put you down as saying that Yi is a better player than Blatche and we can let the upcoming season decide.

Posted by: divi3

I do like to argue for argument's sake. But in this case it was also a way of saying that it might be too early to blow off Yi as nothing more than a marketing move.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I am ready for Nick Young to go now and McGee has 1 more year

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | June 29, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

II hate too say this about my home town but, Y'all are a bunch of "ASS HOLES". Who else on this team avg. 12ppg. and 7.2rpg. per game other than AB. He is 7 feet and can handle the ball and WILL be the best shooter on this team next year, and please don't say Gil is a better shooter because he's a SCORER..... Please tell me someone we could have got that was better for Quinton Ross and please don't say Micheal Beasley all this team needs is another head case that's SUPREMELY IMMATURE.... All you people do is complane, how about given a little support... Y'all make me F'in sick...

Posted by: pikedawg | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Greg Monroe is not a point forward...he is just a multi-skilled power forward...Look @ every team that won the championship...what do they have in common? Maybe outside of Detroit, every other team had a few stars.
Examples:

Houston: Clyde & Akeem
Chicago: MJ & Pippin
San Antonio: Duncan, Robinson, Parker, Manu
LA: Kobe, Shaq, Pau, Lamar
Miami: Wade
Boston: KG, Pierce, Ray Allen, Rondo

What the Wizard's strategy is to have home grown stars...Wall and to a lesser extent Blatche are 2 pieces of that puzzle. They are trying to accumulate as many young talents as possible so they can grow them.

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Wizards 2010 Starters
Wall
Hinrich
Thornton
Blatche
Yi

Wizards 2011 Starters
Wall
Corey Brewer
Carmelo
Blatche
Yao Ming
(Hinrich and Harrison Barnes off the bench)

Who's with me?

Posted by: Kev29 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

So, is anyone surprised that Les BouleS are back to their old ways?

Acquiring castoffs from other teams vice going after proven, productive, and healthy players via free agency?

Give me a F'n break.....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

BoneMarrow,

I believe you are correct. I will only add a couple of more benefits:

1)What just happened last Friday with the Wiz bad luck? Blatche broke his foot. I know we're saying that he is only out until the end of September, but when have we heard an overly optimistic diagnosis from the Wiz med team? Can you say Gilbert? Mike Miller? Foye last year? Not to mention countless other cases of misdiagnosis. This is a pretty good insurance policy in case the foot injury is worse than the med folks think and takes longer to recover. In addition, Andray is notorious for not being in the best condition even when he has the entire summer to train! That will now be set back quite a bit! Andray is not going to have the wind to run up and down the court with John Wall until Dec or Jan, so Yi will probably be starting until Andray gets in shape. When healthy and in good shape, I think Andray starts and Yi will probably be back on the bench, but could be a valuable contributor offensively in that capacity, given Booker and Seraphin will mostly make defensive contributions this year at the 4 spot.

2) Ross was a non-factor for this team. Only reason he was there was exercising an option for himself, knowing that we would have never kept him. So, we get a 7 footer who has potential (may never realize it) for a guy who had no potential! Former #6 pick. Granted two teams gave up on him, and he is not the player that Billups is, but how many teams gave up on Chauncey? Is it worth a free look for a year and use his contract as a trade chip next year if he doesn't pan out?Yes!

3) Plus a billion+ new Wiz fans in China can't be bad either!

So, I agree with your comments..and more.


Ron

Posted by: faninAlex | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Wizards 2010 Starters
Wall
Hinrich
Thornton
Blatche
Yi

Wizards 2011 Starters
Wall
Corey Brewer
Carmelo
Blatche
Yao Ming
(Hinrich and Harrison Barnes off the bench)

Who's with me?

Posted by: Kev29 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

that sounds like a terrible mix of skills for 2011...why would you want a half court offense center (Yao) with athletes who like to run like Wall???

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"Yi was a failure in NJ but you can't teach 7 feet. Worth the project.

Posted by: flee001 | June 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Can't teach height

Posted by: DaveLopan | June 29, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, and Opech, Peter John Ramos, and others had height too.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I understand that Yi does NOT make this team to immediate contenders, but this team gave up a 28 y/o SG for a 22 PF. If Yi ends up being a total liability, he can sit on the bench. Ross would have had more "DNP-Coach's Decision" than this team would have wins or losses (whichever is higher).

Did I miss the memo / post that said this team passed on a Quentin Ross for Derrick Rose deal? The only thing lost is the $3M in CAP SPACE that would have netted veteran journeyman.

I agree that this isn't a GREAT move, but it doesn't make the team worse and this did not give up any major parts, nor did it take on any major committments...

PERSPECTIVE!!!

Posted by: -CN- | June 29, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"Yi was a failure in NJ but you can't teach 7 feet. Worth the project.

Posted by: flee001 | June 29, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Can't teach height

Posted by: DaveLopan | June 29, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, and Opech, Peter John Ramos, and others had height too.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse


So was Andray Blatche

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Ted - please please please please do not get VC - he's a CHOKER and a no-D ME-FIRSTer which we definitely do not need. Give Gil a one year chance to redeem himself - Wiz aren't contending this year anyway, and if Gil IS back, the future could be bright.

Posted by: jrwise52 | June 29, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

What the Wizard's strategy is to have home grown stars...Wall and to a lesser extent Blatche are 2 pieces of that puzzle. They are trying to accumulate as many young talents as possible so they can grow them.

I feel what youre saying but half of those players weren't homegrown.
Clyde, Pau, Lamar, KG and Ray...definitely not.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

What is with all the hate? Developing big men take a few years. Yi has potential. This is in line with the strategy. This is a time to be optimistic.

Divi-- I used to think you were the most reasonable guy on here, but you've definitely gone all bulletsfan78 lately. Yi for nothing. Hinrich and Seraphin for nothing. These are good moves.

Also, in terms of Hinrich (I know this is a few days old), but remember that, for all his maturity, Wall is only 19 and suddenly became a multi-millionare. Did you really think the organization was going to let Gil and Young be his only veteran backcourt mentors??? That would be insane. Of course they were always going to get a veteran back there who would play a bit (and thus earn the respect of Wall and thus be an effective mentor). If they play 9 people, they need at least 3 veterans regardless of how much they go for youth. And those 3 need to be in the regular rotation or they won't get any respect. The team blew it with Blatche and Kwame in terms of mentorship; they won't do it with Wall. (And no Cassell doesn't count, he's a coach not a teammate). Everyone talks OKC - well, when Durant was a rookie they had Kurt Thomas, Earl Watson, and others. This team was never going to start 5 rookies. Hinrich makes sense.

Posted by: Urnesto | June 29, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

"So was Andray Blatche

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse "

What has he done?

This acquisition of Yi really deserves little press coverage.

Talk to me when it's reported that it's a typo in the report...that it's Lopez instead of Yi.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Another positive step for the young Wiz, and I'm sure there will be more. I like the trajectory of these changes ... up. Of course, we've been down so long it may just LOOK like up to me. But every move has been an improvement, despite the noise coming from the gasbags on this blog.

I've seen Yi play numerous times and he's been effective when he's stayed in the game. Yes, he can be overpowered underneath by big players, but he also can block shots and alter shots. And he's a good position rebounder. And YES, he will sell tickets and get the Wizards some looks in China. Nothing wrong with that.

We won't get a full picture of the team until October, but I see a lot of hopeful signs. Not that I expect to make the playoffs next year; we could be headed for the lottery again. But I think we'll field a team that will play hard and bring some excitement to the Verizon Center.

As usual, I'm hopeful. Why not? It's a new team. I like what Ernie is doing putting it together and I think Flip will have them playing an exciting brand of basketball.

Posted by: zinger1 | June 29, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Ted - please please please please do not get VC - he's a CHOKER and a no-D ME-FIRSTer which we definitely do not need. Give Gil a one year chance to redeem himself - Wiz aren't contending this year anyway, and if Gil IS back, the future could be bright.

Posted by: jrwise52 | June 29, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This is stupid...why would you want to give Gilbert another chance? If you can trade him and get salary cap relief, you have to do that. VC is not here for the long term anyways (if we trade for him and Gortat). Gilbert is on the hook for 80 mil and he plays no defense. On top of that, we won't know how well he would mesh with Wall. I would not want the two of them stuck together for the next 4 years. Trade him please (he needs a fresh start anyways)

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I can only assume that with Blatche sidelined for the next 3 months, the team felt like they had a hole to fill in the soft, jumpshooting, no-defense playing, no-power forward role.

That being said . . . they need someone off the bench on the frontline who at least has a chance to score, and he's in the last guaranteed year of his contract. He's a rental. No big whoop one way or the other.

Given their rebuilding status, the only real potential negative to this is if he has a really good year, they sign him to a big, long-term deal, and he immediately proceeds to go back to sucking. Don't see that happening, though.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 29, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

What has he done?

This acquisition of Yi really deserves little press coverage.

Talk to me when it's reported that it's a typo in the report...that it's Lopez instead of Yi.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse


Blatche seems to have produced numbers when he has gotten consistent minutes...that sounds about right

Posted by: merajc86 | June 29, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I feel what youre saying but half of those players weren't homegrown.
Clyde, Pau, Lamar, KG and Ray...definitely not.

Posted by: SDMDTSU

True, but they also weren't acquired first and then added to. A base was built first and then big guns were added when needed. Safe to say we're not close enough to require the big guns.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Ted - please please please please do not get VC - he's a CHOKER and a no-D ME-FIRSTer which we definitely do not need. Give Gil a one year chance to redeem himself - Wiz aren't contending this year anyway, and if Gil IS back, the future could be bright.

Posted by: jrwise52 | June 29, 2010 5:28 PM

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No. I think if you could trade Gil for VC you do it. Vince has a team option for 2011-12. So, he'd come off the books next season. What has Gil shown in the past three years to make anyone think that he's someone that you want on your team. I don't see how he's any better, contracts aside, than VC at this point. However, Gil's contract is an albatross while VC would free up a cap space for a top level guy next offseason.

For those who want us to pursue Bosh or Amare. You must be drunk because there's no way either guy is coming to DC.

Posted by: gkronenberg | June 29, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

He's 7-0 with some athleticism and only 22 years old. And foreign players tend to mature/develop after a couple of years after adjusting to everything.

Yeah, I'm not going to stay awake fantasizing of him getting a bunch of double-doubles but he's clearly a better risk than Pecherov or Stamos.

I don't know it looks like they're picking up bodies with no purpose or direction. I mean can you play him alongside McGee?

Posted by: SteveMG | June 29, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Divi-- I used to think you were the most reasonable guy on here, but you've definitely gone all bulletsfan78 lately.

Posted by: Urnesto

To be fair, I've been poking divi with a stick pretty much all day.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Divi-- I used to think you were the most reasonable guy on here, but you've definitely gone all bulletsfan78 lately.

Posted by: Urnesto

To be fair, I've been poking divi with a stick pretty much all day.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Yi hah! The Zards are making moves that they can in the hopes that they can clear room for next year. They aren't going to get any of the free agents this year. Good move!

Posted by: KDSmallJr | June 29, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

So all of the Chinese poeple in DC MD and VA live in chinatown downtown DC?????????? C'mon Rocco.
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 29, 2010 5:01 PM |

Did you read the context or are you another stupid Wiz fan?

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

How could anyone argue with what this team has done in the last couple of weeks? Short of a big name signing, which isn't going to happen, they have made some excellent moves. They will be a young team with a lot of upside. Fun to watch, just like the Capitals. Didn't they look terrible for awhile? Now they are young and talented and there's more on the way. Put it together Ted.

Posted by: coastallp74 | June 29, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and Opech, Peter John Ramos, and others had height too.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:23 PM |

And brains - which is exactly what you don't have twerp c#nt.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

How could anyone argue with what this team has done in the last couple of weeks? Short of a big name signing, which isn't going to happen, they have made some excellent moves. They will be a young team with a lot of upside. Fun to watch, just like the Capitals. Didn't they look terrible for awhile? Now they are young and talented and there's more on the way. Put it together Ted.

Posted by: coastallp74 | June 29, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

"He's 7-0 with some athleticism and only 22 years old. And foreign players tend to mature/develop after a couple of years after adjusting to everything.

Yeah, I'm not going to stay awake fantasizing of him getting a bunch of double-doubles but he's clearly a better risk than Pecherov or Stamos.

I don't know it looks like they're picking up bodies with no purpose or direction. I mean can you play him alongside McGee?

Posted by: SteveMG | June 29, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse "

Yi is rumored to be like the cookie monster (aka Dikembe) and is probably ~27 vice 22.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

So, is anyone surprised that Les BouleS are back to their old ways?

Acquiring castoffs from other teams vice going after proven, productive, and healthy players via free agency?

Give me a F'n break.....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Actually, this is pretty much the opposite of what the old bullets did. Back then they traded big players entering the prime of their careers for small guys on the decline.

This time they traded a small, end of his career nobody for a big, young guy who doesn't cost them a dime.

Yi may not make the difference in even one single game, but he doesn't hurt this team one iota. And it is possible that he may have a pretty good impact, while Ross' impact should be limited to how much the Nets can save with a buyout.

Additionally, come Feb/March, who do you think has more trade value: a 12/7 7fter who is 23 or a run down 6'6 bench sitter?

Posted by: Blurred | June 29, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Who would've thought the acquisition of Yi would have this blog on fire the way it is? Or is it the loss of Ross? Sheesh.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Give me a F'n break.....
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:18 PM

Enough entitlement for you white @55.
Go get a job & learn how to rationalize you nimrod klanschimp.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Yi is rumored to be like the cookie monster (aka Dikembe) and is probably ~27 vice 22.
Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:42 PM |

Quit being a xenophobe you dumb rectum.
No1 is taking your hamburger flipping job.
Zitface.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Small move, but I like...

Posted by: thebone | June 29, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I know one complaint of the Wizards moves lately is that we're helping out competitors get better and build dynasties.

I have a different take on that. Let's say that the rumors are true and that two or three of the 'max' guys are going to end up in a couple of places, Chicago, or Miami or Jersey, etc.

In three years, the young players we're acquiring (and others that we will hopefully be acquiring) should be hitting the prime stride of their careers. Meanwhile, the max contracts of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, etc will have ballooned enough that no team is going to be financially able to keep them together. So some of those pieces (or others that those teams don't have financial room for anymore like Rose or Noah, etc) are going to become available.

So that's really what Wizards fans should hunker down and prep for. It's possible Ted dips in next year if Durant or Melo are available, but I think it's more likely that they continue to build a talent base and then wait to acquire a major piece to put the Wiz into big time contender status in two or three years. So think that far down the road.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

It's funny that BF78 blamed Abe for being cheap...now Ted who you begged for took over...and he's received cash in both deals...and now it's Abe's fault that Ted is cheap.

Gotta love BF78.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

"Enough entitlement for you white @55.
Go get a job & learn how to rationalize you nimrod klanschimp.

Posted by: Rocc00 | June 29, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse "

If only you made sense or had facts to back up your support of EG's moves.

Take a look back at EG's body of work while employed as the GM for Les BouleS. It clearly speaks for itself.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"Additionally, come Feb/March, who do you think has more trade value: a 12/7 7fter who is 23 or a run down 6'6 bench sitter?

Posted by: Blurred | June 29, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, again bringing in more players just to trade them or let them walk later.

If Ross was garbage, he shouldn't have been acquired to begin with.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

If Ross was garbage, he shouldn't have been acquired to begin with.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Do you have even a passing knowledge of how NBA trades work? Sometimes you take on a guy purely for his contract.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Nice move EG!

Posted by: JPRS | June 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"In three years, the young players we're acquiring (and others that we will hopefully be acquiring) should be hitting the prime stride of their careers. Meanwhile, the max contracts of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, etc will have ballooned enough that no team is going to be financially able to keep them together. So some of those pieces (or others that those teams don't have financial room for anymore like Rose or Noah, etc) are going to become available.

So that's really what Wizards fans should hunker down and prep for. It's possible Ted dips in next year if Durant or Melo are available, but I think it's more likely that they continue to build a talent base and then wait to acquire a major piece to put the Wiz into big time contender status in two or three years. So think that far down the road.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, and in 3 years, it'll be just in time for them to want more money and then be allowed to walk.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Do you have even a passing knowledge of how NBA trades work? Sometimes you take on a guy purely for his contract.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, "building for the future" sell once again from EG.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and in 3 years, it'll be just in time for them to want more money and then be allowed to walk.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

No, by then they will have been resigned and you'll be complaining that they're not worth their contracts. At least be consistent!

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Ted the Wizards new name should be the Washington Potentials...

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"No, by then they will have been resigned and you'll be complaining that they're not worth their contracts. At least be consistent!

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse "

And I'll be correct as usual.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, "building for the future" sell once again from EG.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Completely nonreponsive and irrelevant. Not that I expected any different.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Wizards should go out and find Jin Soo Choi who use to play for the Terps I hear he has a lot of potential and will help with ticket sales?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

here is his bio...

FRESHMAN YEAR: Kim came to the United States from Korea, not able to speak much English but incredibly adept at basketball. He's very skilled, and a big-time talent for his age. He was the best player on the Korean under-16 national team, and he'll have pressure to go pro right out of high school.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

"And I'll be correct as usual."

Posted by: DC_MAN88

I see. Whether they resign them or let them walk, they're making a mistake either way. Bizarro World.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

"Who would've thought the acquisition of Yi would have this blog on fire the way it is? Or is it the loss of Ross? Sheesh.Posted by: tgif11"

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, huh? The Nets are clearly cleaning house in prep for a max FA bid -- so were the Bulls. The Wiz are standing there with $$ room and a bunch of empty roster slots, catching what falls. Could be these guys help the team; could be they turn into expirings.

Yi is a big guy who's not very tough and Hinrich is a tough guy who's not very quick. We lose Foye who some here are convinced is shorter than Earl Boykins, and we lose Miller who some here are convinced is a basketball agoraphobic, and we probably lose Josh Howard who we never really got to see play anyway.

Wake me up when we trade Gilbert.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Anybody think these New Draft picks will stick and contribute to the team?

Hamady Ndiaye, 6’11”, 235, 4.5 Blocks/game, 9.4ppg, 7.1rpg, NBA Draft Score 87
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/Hamady-Ndiaye

Trevor Booker, 6’7”, 236, NBA Draft Score 90, 15.2ppg, 8.4rpg, Power Forward
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/trevor-booker

Kevin Seraphin, 6’9”, 263, NBA Draft Score 90, 6.1ppg, 4.3rpg in 15 minutes
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/Kevin-Seraphin

Posted by: liveride | June 29, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

If Ernie could resign OP he could start OP, Yi and Seraphin in the front court?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"Yi may not make the difference in even one single game, but he doesn't hurt this team one iota."

I'm sorry, but EG is an idiot.

Dude keeps trading/drafting players who will never help ths franchise. EG is the guy at the poker table that keeps spending every dollar he has hoping just to break even and you have to push away.

"All I'm saying is don't hold your breath waiting for him to improve much, because that's not why he was signed."

Exactly. This is a DUMB trade.

"Unless you trading for Dirk Nowitzki, A 7 footer with no inside game is a joke. I wonder how long Leonsis is going to put up with Grunfield's sorry azz wheeling & dealings."

I can't say it any better then that.

Mike, they are paying this guy 4.5 million dollars of Ted's money. How is that "nothing?"

Terrible pick up.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 29, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

"Divi-- I used to think you were the most reasonable guy on here, but you've definitely gone all bulletsfan78 lately. Yi for nothing. Hinrich and Seraphin for nothing. These are good moves."

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you...but I actually followed Yi somewhat for his first 2 years and imho he really is not a good player by any measure. He's likley older than listed, and Yao called him out during the Olympics for having no heart. Kind of a big deal as they are both stars in China. Fine if people disagree, but anybody pointing to his 3pt% obviously knows nothing about the guy as he isnt a 3pt shooter at all. Comparing him to AB is equally silly as they have entirely different games.

And for the record, I never said QRoss for Yi is bad deal or shouldnt be made- I said Yi will never be much of a player

Anyway, hope I am wrong, but when I'm right you can go back to thinking I'm reasonable ;-)

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

"Anyway, hope I am wrong, but when I'm right you can go back to thinking I'm reasonable ;-)"

You're right and I just sent Ted an email out of frustration.

Yi stinks, no reason to apologize Div.

It's frustrating as a fan to see these kind of moves and think they are going to help the team get better.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 29, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

"..anybody pointing to [Yi's] 3pt% obviously knows nothing about the guy as he isnt a 3pt shooter at all."

I found this curious, so being one of those weird people who checks for accuracy, I looked him up. It's a weird record. In his first season, he took only 4% of his shots from the arc, connecting on 28.6% of them. The following season, in NJ, he took a quite respectable 29% of his FGA from beyond the 3 point line, and hit 34.3%, which is about the same as Gilbert. Last season, when he made 36.6% of his three-pointers, he nonetheless took only 7.2% of his FG attempts from outside.

I don't know what the explanation is. Could be the coaches told him to play closer in (they often do that with big guys). Or something else entirely, I have no idea.

But on the surface at least, it looks like he's actually getting better at it.

We still don't have that anchor center, however, that I believe would really help this young club next season. Not enough to lift them out of the lottery, mind you.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

It's frustrating as a fan to see these kind of moves and think they are going to help the team get better.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 29, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Ray,

I don't even think Ernie is stupid enough to think these moves are going to make the team better.

The guy is trying to save his job by putting fans in the seats with a side show and by the response of some of the people on here it sounds like they are buying it.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rmcazz | June 29, 2010 6:47 PM

It's a marketing move at the "cost" of losing QRoss....good business right? Yi is on his last year, if he has a breakout year(ha)- are we supposed to sign him to a big deal? There's no chance EG believes that Yi or Sun Yu are going to be building blocks in the team's future. Short term marketing and ticket sales....part of the bigger picture for a league on shaky financial footing

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

But I can't imagine how anyone could claim that a player who over the course of a season takes more than a quarter of his shots from 3 point range and hits more than a third of them, can't shoot the 3 pointer.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

It's funny that BF78 blamed Abe for being cheap...now Ted who you begged for took over...and he's received cash in both deals...and now it's Abe's fault that Ted is cheap.

Gotta love BF78.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | June 29, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

SDMDTSU

I am starting to believe the Wizards used subliminal messages at the game which told the fans never to question what the teams does and Ted is going to continue the practice and line his pockets with cash from fans who can think for themselves.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah, "building for the future" sell once again from EG.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Completely nonreponsive and irrelevant. Not that I expected any different.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse "

If only it wasn't relevant, but it is.

EG's history with trades, drafts, acquisitions, etc. has resulted in two consecutive seasons of lottery.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

"Yi averaged 12 points and 7 rebounds and is an 80.5% foul shooter for his career. I give Ernie a B- on this trade.

Posted by: jeremybozz | June 29, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse "

Yes, for the worst team in the NBA last season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

awesome move by the wiz.

7 footer, can step out hit the baseline J's...he'll thrive w/wall and arenas. something he never had in Milwaukee or NJ...Open shots, AND can shoot free throws. Way better than songaila....What's not to like?

keep in mind 22 is still very very young, plus the kid works very hard, and has improved every year. .

Q ross will not play in the NBA in a year.
A for EG.

Posted by: dochs1 | June 29, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

who can't think for themselves

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

""And I'll be correct as usual."

Posted by: DC_MAN88

I see. Whether they resign them or let them walk, they're making a mistake either way. Bizarro World.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse "

No, here's a clue for you.

Get a solid proven player with no drama and build around him.....not cannon fodder or head cases or contracts or "potential."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I think all of these trades are for a reason. One, we get productive players. And two, GA becomes needed by the teams who lost out in the free agent period. GA will be traded within 30 days.

Posted by: Drkitchen | June 29, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Get a solid proven player with no drama and build around him.....not cannon fodder or head cases or contracts or "potential."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 |

Another tangent.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Nice trade. Now, lets win 40 games, grab the #8 seed and save Ernie's job.

Posted by: jeremybozz | June 29, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

EG's history with trades, drafts, acquisitions, etc. has resulted in two consecutive seasons of lottery.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Irrelevant to why Ross was acquired.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody think these New Draft picks will stick and contribute to the team?
Hamady Ndiaye, 6’11”, 235
Trevor Booker, 6’7”, 236
Kevin Seraphin, 6’9”, 263
Posted by: liveride"

Well, Grunfeld said before the draft that it was very likely all 3 picks would make the club, due to the available spots.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"EG's history with trades, drafts, acquisitions, etc. has resulted in two consecutive seasons of lottery.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Irrelevant to why Ross was acquired.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse "

Totally relevant.

Another transaction made by EG to ship a player out in order to acquire another player that will probably not stick around after this season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I like it.
Yi is a nice addition.
Not a game changer but a game improver for the Wizzies.
Plus his name is real easy to spell.

Posted by: VBFan | June 29, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

EAZY YYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! Welcome to Chinatown. Can't wait to see him play with the Great Wall setting him up. Anyone who doesn't like this trade probably didn't see any Nets games last year, which is understandable. This is a really young lottery pick who is 7 feet tall, is a blocking monster, is getting tougher, and has an unbelievable jump shot. Plus he is a money machine that will help fund the wizards rebuilding efforts. He is a huge star in China, they even make Air Yi Jian Lian shoes. He is inconsistent but so was Blatche at his age and look at him now. I think he and Javale are about the same age with similar potential to contribute. Don't underestimate Yi.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | June 29, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse


If people are this mad about Ross being traded, just wait until Arenas gets traded. It will happen. Soon.

Posted by: harrybalz | June 29, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"i like Yi. He's more 3 than 4 so i think he really adds depth in a spot where we're superthin. How many more tix do you think teddy sells now that he's got Yi playing in Chinatown? Good basketball and good business.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | June 29, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse "

What in the world does Yi playing in Chinatown have to do with selling tickets?

Chinatown used to be Chinablock. Now, it's Chinacorner.

Do you expect the dishwashers to spend 3 days worth of pay for a ticket to see Yi?

In case you haven't noticed, most of the Chinese have moved out to the 'burbs.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Another transaction made by EG to ship a player out in order to acquire another player that will probably not stick around after this season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Circular argument.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree with all those that think E.G. is going after C. Anthony. Anyone who even thought the wizards would be contenders for a title this year is WHACKED...So why make a big splash on one single agent instead of moving peices into place to build a championship team. Ted did that when he first bought the caps and it bit him in the arse! I think he is going to see who proves their value on the court keep em or dump em and then move more peices into place! C. Anthony is always in Bmore and always trying to do stuff for his community and family! If he comes here good players and solid tough bench players will follow with the development of wall ! Hence Hinrich coming in...No not the most athletic but one of the smartest point guards who can teach Wall grit with a little bit of dirty underhandedness! I like him teaching Wall the ropes of how to defend and not get caught and how to get calls...You cant teach athleticism which wall is gifted with...In a few years he wil be handucuffing rondo, jameer nelson, and mo williams on the perimiter! If Yi works out great we resign him if he doesnt then you've tried that option at no real cost! Something tells me that playing infront of your country men and China town might get him kick started to represent!

Now develop some players get C. Melo, A. Stoudamire and J. Childress and lets roll! I forget Melo is only 26!

Posted by: SkinzFan4lyfe | June 29, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I guess Flip can coach a team like this; he started out in the CBA didn't he? Still, it would be interesting to get some reaction from him.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | June 29, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Do you expect the dishwashers to spend 3 days worth of pay for a ticket to see Yi?

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Wow.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Aside from the fact that he's a 7 footer who has no inside game, can't shoot, and doesnt play D.....Yi is a great pickup.

Posted by: divi3 | June 29, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse
-------------------------------------------DDitto! Unless you trading for Dirk Nowitzki, A 7 footer with no inside game is a joke. I wonder how long Leonsis is going to put up with Grunfield's sorry azz wheeling & dealings.
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Amen.

Posted by: yetanotherpassword | June 29, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

"Another transaction made by EG to ship a player out in order to acquire another player that will probably not stick around after this season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Circular argument.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse "

Circular transactions.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't mind a Gil for Vince trade. I'm sure Vince would gladly take a buyout to go play for a contender at this point in his career. More cap space for "The Summer of Melo"! I gotta strong feeling Melo is coming back to the East Coast next year. He knows first hand as long as Kobe is alive, he'll never get out the West.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

"EAZY YYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! Welcome to Chinatown. Can't wait to see him play with the Great Wall setting him up. Anyone who doesn't like this trade probably didn't see any Nets games last year, which is understandable. This is a really young lottery pick who is 7 feet tall, is a blocking monster, is getting tougher, and has an unbelievable jump shot. Plus he is a money machine that will help fund the wizards rebuilding efforts. He is a huge star in China, they even make Air Yi Jian Lian shoes. He is inconsistent but so was Blatche at his age and look at him now. I think he and Javale are about the same age with similar potential to contribute. Don't underestimate Yi.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | June 29, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse "

Such a building block that the Nets paid money to get rid of him in exchange for a nobody.

A building block that helped make the Nets the worse team in the league this past season.

Don't get enamored by stats. MeTawn had 20-10 here and this team went nowhere and the Cavs went nowhere.

LOL when I recall how some thought MeTawn was the missing piece to the Cavs's championship glory.

BTW, the "blocking monster" averaged 1.00/game last season and shot .403 while only playing 52 games.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Circular transactions.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Possibly.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Comparing him to AB is equally silly as they have entirely different games.

Didn't compare their games, compared them as young players, who had shown flashes of potential but hadn't shown consistency through their third years. Which is fair. Statistical profiles are similar, especially pts/rbs. AB has a better FG%, Yi shoots better from the arc and FT line. AB speaks better English, Yi hasn't been caught soliciting prostitutes.

Yi is on his last year, if he has a breakout year(ha)- are we supposed to sign him to a big deal?

Nah, first probably just make the required $5M qualifying offer and see if anyone matches.

Posted by: ts35 | June 29, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

My only draw back to trading in the divison would be playing Gil 4 times a year. Say what you want about him (And i'm sure someone will), But he can still put up 40 in his sleep. Imagine seeing him for the next 3 years and possibly having to go through him and the Magic in the playoffs. That's why i would hold on to him til the trade deadline and wait and see who comes calling. I bet my paycheck that if he shows he's still a top 15 player, Dallas would make a trade for him at the deadline! That's right, you heard it hear first! Gil to Dallas for Dampier's contract and a poo poo platter that'll really make us the favorites for next summer!

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

"My only draw back to trading in the divison would be playing Gil 4 times a year. Say what you want about him (And i'm sure someone will), But he can still put up 40 in his sleep. Imagine seeing him for the next 3 years and possibly having to go through him and the Magic in the playoffs. That's why i would hold on to him til the trade deadline and wait and see who comes calling. I bet my paycheck that if he shows he's still a top 15 player, Dallas would make a trade for him at the deadline! That's right, you heard it hear first! Gil to Dallas for Dampier's contract and a poo poo platter that'll really make us the favorites for next summer!

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse "

What makes you think Gilby can put up 40 in his sleep?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

"Circular transactions.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Possibly.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse "

Garbage in, garbage out, garbage back in,......

I think Yi is a decent player, but as far as contributing and being some sort of integral player for the long haul....not really.

If EG thinks he is, and would beg to differ, then lets see EG sign him to an extension before the final year of his contract is up.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

More cap space for "The Summer of Melo"! I gotta strong feeling Melo is coming back to the East Coast next year. He knows first hand as long as Kobe is alive, he'll never get out the West.
Posted by: CBell29


There's a strong chance Carmelo will be locked up (contractually) before next summer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5318846

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

The one positive effect of acquiring Yi is that all you haters will come to appreciate Dray. Yi has a nice looking jump shot and can hit the open 20 footer from the corner, but he has no post-up game and never attacks the rim. probably because he has worse ups than Darius Songaila. I'm trying to figure out how he averaged 7 boards, because I don't think I've ever seen him box out. Michael Beasley would be a way, way better pickup, even if he is a head case.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | June 29, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Well, Grunfeld said before the draft that it was very likely all 3 picks would make the club, due to the available spots.

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

but everyone here is smarter than Grunfeld, so who cares what he says?

Posted by: crs-1 | June 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"I wouldn't mind a Gil for Vince trade. I'm sure Vince would gladly take a buyout to go play for a contender at this point in his career. More cap space for "The Summer of Melo"! I gotta strong feeling Melo is coming back to the East Coast next year. He knows first hand as long as Kobe is alive, he'll never get out the West.

Posted by: CBell29 | June 29, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse "

I'm sorry, but you need to get over VC.

He's not the player that he used to be.

He's not the star attraction.

He can't do any of this anymore:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVC3yBHjNvo

The only reason to trade Gilby for VC is to dump salaries....which again, wouldn't be out of character for EG.

EG should have been arrested for wasting so much of Abe's money.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

If EG thinks he is, and would beg to differ, then lets see EG sign him to an extension before the final year of his contract is up.
Posted by: DC_MAN88

You mean like he tried to do with Foye last October? No thanks.

I'm not in favor a a team bidding against itself for an unproven player. If Yi has a breakout year and the price of his services go up, so be it.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

...in favor of a team...

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"You mean like he tried to do with Foye last October? No thanks.

I'm not in favor a a team bidding against itself for an unproven player. If Yi has a breakout year and the price of his services go up, so be it.

Posted by: tgif11 | June 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse "

I'm not in favor of it either, but EG needs to put his money where his mouth is.

Tired of the falsehoods and BS.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

"This trade is a good opportunity to add a skilled seven-footer with significant NBA experience who was the sixth overall pick in the draft just three years ago," said team President Ernie Grunfeld in a statement. "Yi fits in very well with our ongoing plan of building towards the future with a core of young, talented players."

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | June 29, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

"Yi may not make the difference in even one single game, but he doesn't hurt this team one iota."

I'm sorry, but EG is an idiot...

...This is a DUMB trade.

Mike, they are paying this guy 4.5 million dollars of Ted's money. How is that "nothing?"

Terrible pick up.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | June 29, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

-----------------

If Ted is okay spending 4.5mil on someone who could be a bust, i'm okay with it. it doesn't hurt our cap space, it doesn't saddle us with a bad contract, and we didn't give up major (or marginal!) talent for him.

And actually, if we got cash considerations in the deal, wouldn't that offset the 4.5mil out of Ted's pocket? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the deal.

Really. It's not a bad trade. It doesn't move heaven and earth. but to take a look at a 7 foot player three years removed from being picked sixth overall for one year at the expense of a journeyman shooting guard who i can't remember contributing anything to the team. There is some upside, and I just don't really see any downside.

For the sake of perspective...

Quinton. Ross.

Posted by: crs-1 | June 29, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Samson151,

No, I did not say they are virtually the same type of players. Yi is much taller, so what? They shot bricks just the same.

The most important part is, I do not see Yi sticks around past next season, and here is precisely the problem I have with this trade.

Ross will probably never come off the bench next season, while Yi may actually gets some PT but not good enough for the Wizards to keep him past next season. In the end, he will just rob playing time away from other players that Wizards may keep longer.

Basically, I was hoping Wizards use the cap space to invest in someone who they can really keep. Yi is marginally better than Ross does not buy anything.

Posted by: sagaliba | June 29, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

but everyone here is smarter than Grunfeld, so who cares what he says?

Posted by: crs-1 | June 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Not everyone but some of us who said last years and this years moves won't work are

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | June 29, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

"Yi has a nice looking jump shot and can hit the open 20 footer from the corner, but he has no post-up game and never attacks the rim. probably because he has worse ups than Darius Songaila."

Posted by: pjkiger1 | June 29, 2010 8:34 PM


according to draftexpress.com, yi jianlian has a 38" max. vertical, only one inch less than our hyper-athletic john wall. not bad for a guy standing 6'11" w/o shoes.

Posted by: omgwthrotfl | June 29, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"The most important part is, I do not see Yi sticks around past next season, and here is precisely the problem I have with this trade. Ross will probably never come off the bench next season, while Yi may actually gets some PT but not good enough for the Wizards to keep him past next season. In the end, he will just rob playing time away from other players that Wizards may keep longer. Basically, I was hoping Wizards use the cap space to invest in someone who they can really keep. Yi is marginally better than Ross does not buy anything.Posted by: sagaliba"

Couple comments: Yi, for all his flaws, has way more value to an NBA club than Quinton does. Second, the only reason this trade was made was to clear space for the Nets' to make a big splash in free agency. Otherwise it would never have happened.

If Yi plays well this coming season, his trade value goes up. If he doesn't, he's still an expiring contract, with another sort of trade value.

It's entirely possible that Wiz management have looked over the alternatives and decided this particular trade was worth the price. That they're thinking the risk makes sense in the short-term, a season or two, rather than long-term.

That would be because they think the club is more than a year away from contention.

A season ago, your argument that the vets were robbing PT from young players made more sense, because they had more young players then and they had more vets. Now the youngsters are starters, and they're still shedding vets.


Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

"Ross will probably never come off the bench next season, while Yi may actually gets some PT but not good enough for the Wizards to keep him past next season. In the end, he will just rob playing time away from other players that Wizards may keep longer."

I don't see this. Who is he "robbing" of PT? It's not like the Wizards are stocked with blue chippers in the front court. Yi can play PF and SF offensively (although he can't defend either position, of any others for that matter). Of the players the Wiz have under contract there: Blatche (assuming he's healthy) is going to be the starter and get minutes (unless he flatlines, in which case having another proven frontcourt scorer on the team is a good insurance policy). Thornton is in the final year of his deal and isn't likely to have a long-term future here anyway. Seraphin and Booker are rookies (assuming Seraphin even comes to the US this season) whose roles are completely different than Yi's. He's a scorer, period. The rookies are physical, tough, inside guys. Not exactly interchangeable with Yi. There's room for all to play, enough so that it's unlikely any of them will or should be dominating the PT.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 29, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

"The one positive effect of acquiring Yi is that all you haters will come to appreciate Dray. "

Dream on.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 29, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

"For those who want us to pursue Bosh or Amare. You must be drunk because there's no way either guy is coming to DC."

Posted by: gkronenberg


In addition, if you're trying to build a core team that is tough and plays defense, why would you want either player?

Posted by: nmik | June 29, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Apparently that is the explanation for the anomaly in Yi's numbers: last season the Nets changed strategy and ordered Yi inside to help out Lopez. Accordingly, his rebounds went up 12% while the number of 3 point attempts fell off the roof.

Wonder how they'll play him in Washington? Shooting jumpers from outside or banging down low?

Posted by: Samson151 | June 29, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

"Yi may not make the difference in even one single game, but he doesn't hurt this team one iota."

I'm sorry, but EG is an idiot.

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You think Ted doesn't like this trade that will enthuse Chinese-American fans in the the District and attract numerous Chinese fans to follow the Wizards and buy lots of Wizards merchandise?

Who did you say is the idiot?

Posted by: nmik | June 29, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

This a good pickup for the Wiz. Yi can and will play the 3. Other teams have played him out of position. I will be real happy when the Wiz sign a big man coach. The ones they have are useless. Why is unseld jr and tapscott still hanging around.

wall
gil
yi
blatche
mcgee
hinrich
hamady
booker if he can playe the 3
rest of the bench

Posted by: rnbrown4 | June 29, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

This is a low risk move by the Wizards that could - could - bring solid returns.

He's athletic, he can run and jump, he's just now adjusting to the environment (as we know, foreign players always take at least two years to get acclimated). He can be a solid complementary player to Wall and Arenas.

If he turns out to be a bust, they let him go. They gave up almost nothing.

They could use a body upfront to bang people but they've had that problem for years.

Posted by: SteveMG | June 29, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

This is an EXCELLENT trade.
Leonsis has already said he doesn't want to sign a big free agent for the sake of signing one. Think of the last few NBA champions.

The Lakers were Kobe, Bynum, and Odom before picking up Gasol put them over the top. Even then, it took Gasol being there for more than a full season to accomplish it.

The Celtics managed to do it the first year Garnett and Allen got there, but they don't do it without Pierce, Rondo, Perkins, and Powe who had BEEN there.
The Spurs did it with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili who had been together for several years.

Shaq helped the Heat win it but not without D-Wade, Mourning, and Haslem. Again they had been together for a few years. See the trend? You need to give your transcendent talent time to cut his teeth in the playoffs and see what he needs before adding the other pieces.

Let's surround Wall with some pieces and then see what he needs. I don't want one championship next year, I want several championships over several years, and not one of the 2010 free agents can realistically give this team a chance of that outside of LeBron. He and Wade are the only ones who can carry teams, and Wade is 28, his window to dominate is optimistically 5 years. So forget free agents and let Wall, Blatche, McGee, Yi, and Seraphin grow. Save money for a couple of years and see what we need when guys like Brook Lopez, Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, OJ Mayo, and Tyreke Evans become free agents, not to mention re-signing our own free agents.

This is an EXCELLENT trade. I agree that Yi is likely about 25 rather than 22 but I don't care. He's only played NBA ball for three seasons, closer to two if you consider his injury history. The fact is he's huge(7 foot in shoes with a 7-3 wingspan and a 38 inch vertical) and is skilled. He's exactly the type of skilled, run and jump athlete who would excel playing alongside John Wall. Sure he's not rugged, but neither was Pau Gasol for several years and he's won two championships now. I bet Yi will toughen up after playing with the likes of Seraphin and Trevor Booker. Besides that, we didn't really give up anything for him besides cap space which, again, we weren't planning on using. I also don't buy the idea that he'll be eating developmental minutes for other players.

It's a team-wide notion that it's in rebuilding mode and players will be developed, including Yi if there is more to him than what he is. It was clear the last two months of this past season that Blatche, Young, and McGee were receiving heavy training. Randy Foye's minutes were clearly being taken in Young's instance and now we know why as Foye is no longer in the team's plans. Considering that, I don't think anyone needs to worry about players not getting the chance to develop.

Posted by: DonnyB | June 29, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Basically, I was hoping Wizards use the cap space to invest in someone who they can really keep. Yi is marginally better than Ross does not buy anything.
Posted by: sagaliba

There are too many teams with cap money this year for the Wizards to really invest long term. Everyone is getting overpaid this year.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 29, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

From Basketball Prospectus

From the Wizards perspective, this is a much better deal than the Hinrich one. Yi is a better player than anyone Washington could have signed with the $3 million in cap space they spent on him, plus the Nets apparently floated enough cash to cover the difference in salaries next season. Yi may not turn into anything more than the middling contributor he was in New Jersey, but the cost to find out will be minimal.

Transaction Analysis: Nets Dump Yi

Posted by: djnnnou | June 29, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"this is a much better deal than the Hinrich one" sounds kind of harsh, but Kevin Pelton was on board with that deal, too.

Posted by: djnnnou | June 29, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't be fooled, Yi is by no means a 22yr old young guy, every Chinese knows his real age is at least 3-4 years older. Yi's talents?? well, I feel so sorry about the Wiz. You never get hurt to have a player never playing on court (like QR), Yi will definitely hurt the team with his extremely poor D, horrible shooting efficiency, can u imagine an inside 7 ft player shoots below 40 percent and waste that huge amount of shooting attepmts? It won't surprised to me if the Wiz plays as impressive as Nets of the last season with the help of Yi. Don't tell me that the Wiz will be opened to the Chinese market with Yi's enrollment. Didn't see the Bucks nor the Nets had any benefit from that. Not everyone is as lucky as the Rockets... Waiving Yi after 10-11 season gonna be the only end... poor wiz...

Posted by: chairman77 | June 29, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

There are too many teams with cap money this year for the Wizards to really invest long term. Everyone is getting overpaid this year.

Posted by: djnnnou

That's the other factor that people seem to be ignoring. Unless the Wizards could get one of the top 3 or 4 FAs to sign here this summer (they couldn't) then it really made no sense for them to sign any FA to a long-term deal. The current CBA expires after next season and the new one is going to be lower, tighter, with more restrictions. Preserving their cap space for the 2011-12 season is the best move by far. When the new CBA kicks in, it's very possible that several teams will end up getting pushed into luxury tax territory despite having not added anything to their payroll (esp. if they institute a hard cap). There could be teams giving away good players with guaranteed contracts in order shed payroll and get under the cap/tax ceiling. Any team sitting on a big pot of cap space when that happens could be holding some pretty sweet cards.

Posted by: kalo_rama | June 29, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Yi has a nice write up in Wikipedia. It really gives perspective on who he is and what kind of player he might become.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Jianlian
It was alarming, though, to read that his interpreter is a Ho.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | June 29, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

"""Dude is 7 feet, averaged 12 and 7, and is still only 22. Ross was never going to play. Ever. Sounds like an OK pick-up to me.

Posted by: akmed0 | June 29, 2010 """

Correct.

Posted by: hardiboiled | June 29, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

This is like someone handing you a foot long sub for the last two bites of your own. Neither is guaranteed to keep you fed for the next 3 years, but if you turn it down you are stupid. Or just like to see themselves post on a blog.

Posted by: hardiboiled | June 30, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

A couple things that haven't been mentioned:

1. Putting talent aside, Yi's expiring contract is likely to have more trade value than Ross's. It's a difference mostly on the margins, but it's yet another part of the trade that looks smart in hindsight -- especially considering that the move has no impact on the Wizards cap, and no impact on their bottom line (thanks to the cash consideration rec'd as part of the deal).

2a. It is in the Wizards interest to feed the frenzy surrounding James's free agency. The more teams involved, the more that the bidding war escalates, the more likely it is that the Wizards can pick up pieces and prospects on the cheap (as they've done now with Chicago and New Jersey -- getting some value for essentially nothing).

2b. On the other side of the bidding war, most likely two and possibly three teams will whiff completely when all is said and done. At that point you have teams that are likely to be anxious to make a move -- and they'll have cap space to do so if they want (e.g. the old gambler's dilemma -- the more a person losses, the more risk they're willing to take on in the desperate hope that maybe, just maybe they can break even again). A team might be more willing to assume the risk associated with the Arenas contract based on his upside in the near-future.

I'm not sure if this is the direction that the Wizards are going, but they seem pretty committed to rebuilding at this point.

Posted by: JPRS | June 30, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

LET"S TRY THIS, AGAIN.

NBA trades can be really hard for some fans to understand because of how complicated the Salary Cap rules are.

So, I will try to give my 2-cents and see if that helps any.

Let's compare Yi to Ross:

Both are guys on the last year of a contract who most likely see only limited minutes.

The benefits to Yi are that he has much more upside as a versatile 7ft 22-year-old, he has at least one useful skill (off. Rebs), and the big one is that since his contract is larger it is more useful as an expiring contract at the trade dealine.

The negative would have been the money owed to him, but NJ is paying it with the $3mil they gave the Wiz.

BOTTOM line: Even if Yi turns out to be a waste of space, his expiring contract could help the Wizards add a useful piece who has 2 or 3 years left on a deal paying just a couple million more per year than Yi's deal. It will probably be easier for the Wizards to add players already under contract through trades this year than it would be woo them to sign w/the climate of today's NBA (too much competition).

Posted by: SportzWiz | June 30, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Where is LarryinClintonMD ??... wanna know what he thinks ...

Posted by: Levelheadedskinsfan19 | June 30, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Um if Wiz are not going to try and sign a free agent this summer they need to put all their focus on trying to get Durant to comeback to DC..If I was the Wiz I would try an sign David Lee this summer or do not sign anybody and try and get Durant next year..Melo is a free agent too but Durant > Melo.....some say Wall could end up being best PG in the league..Blatche had a breakout season avg 22 an 10 in 2nd half of season if he can still do that we have a nice inside-outside nucleus for the future

Posted by: JaY080 | June 30, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

"the only reason this trade was made was to clear space for the Nets' to make a big splash in free agency. Otherwise it would never have happened."

Not quite, the REAL reason is that Nets does not believe in Yi's "potnetial." Otherwise, they would have traded Harris to clear even more cap space!

As for robbing PT, please bear in mind that we have not seen the full roster yet. As I said, I was hoping Wiz using the cap space to accquire more players for the future, and Yi took some of those cap space away.

Posted by: sagaliba | June 30, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

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