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John Wall heading to Los Angeles for the ESPYs [updated]

Update, 1:20 p.m.: John Wall will not be attending the ESPYs due to unexpected scheduling conflicts. We'll have more on Wizards Insider soon.

The Wizards won't play again until Thursday, but that doesn't mean that John Wall will sit still until then. The team held a meeting on Tuesday and afterward Wall made the rounds at Thomas & Mack Arena, checking out his former Kentucky teammate and Sacramento Kings rookie DeMarcus Cousins dominate the Los Angeles Lakers and sitting to watch Detroit and Miami.


If I'm lucky, people will be clapping for me at the ESPYs. (Photo by Garrett Ellwood/NBAE for Getty Images)

But Wall will have a truly eventful Wednesday, as he plans on participating in a team scrimmage at the Cox Pavilion practice court, then catching a flight to Los Angeles to attend the ESPY Awards. Wall is nominated in two categories -- best breakthrough athlete and best male college athlete.

In the best breakthrough athlete category, Wall will be matched up against fellow Washington phenom, Stephen Strasburg of the Nationals, Baylor freshman Brittney Griner and Texas Titans running back Chris Johnson. In the best male college athlete category, he is up against Heisman trophy winner Mark Ingram from Alabama, Wisconsin hockey star Blake Geoffrion, Florida International baseball star Garrett Wittels and No. 2 overall pick Evan Turner, formerly of Ohio State and now with the Philadelphia 76ers.

After appearing in the ESPYs, Wall plans on quickly taking a late flight out of Los Angeles back to Las Vegas so that he can rest up and be ready for the Wizards' morning walkthrough in preparation for the game later that evening against the Dallas Mavericks.



By Michael Lee  |  July 14, 2010; 8:30 AM ET
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Comments


Wall hasn't played one NBA game. Yet all the hype. The NBA and the Bullets are desperate for success. Get rid of the thug image/ culture, and maybe there'll be some success.

Posted by: hessone | July 14, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

JOHN WALL. JOHN WALL, JOHN WALL.

Let's focus on the team just for a moment shall we?

Now C HILTON ARMSTRONG = CHAMPIONSHIP!

LMAO, NO?

HILTON ARMSTRONG = INSURANCE?

LOL, YES!

O.K., next, a #3, and another guard, then we have the 2010-11 WASHINGTON GENER.....Uh, sorry WIZARDS. Back to the lottery for another impact player in 2011, and we're off and running toward an NBA championship.

Now back to WALL to WALL, JOHN WALL.

Posted by: glawrence007 | July 14, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | July 14, 2010 8:56 AM

The money these guys make and the attention they get tend to indicate that the NBA is already a huge success. Don't hate.

Posted by: tgif11 | July 14, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: hessone | July 14, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

That has nothing to do with anything...John Wall has well deserved hype (being the number 1 PG in college and the first pick in the NBA draft).

Wizards have every right to exploit his hype (esp. after everything that happen last year). This 'thug' image has nothing to do with anything. The issue is that the biggest market teams do not sport the super stars of this day and age (except for LA). Hence, would have been nice for parity's sake if Lebron went to somewhere like NY and Bosh went to Chicago...

Your ignorance is on total display with that comment...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 14, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

In other news:

The Heat reach an agreement with Ilgauskas, with Juwan Howard soon to follow.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5377012

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Dan Gilbert ain't in his feelins over Big Z??????????? Cowardice,betrayal??????????

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Well, they have Jamison now...I hope it was worth the playoff run to him (all 2 rounds)...because Wiz now have a brighter future then the Cavs

Posted by: merajc86 | July 14, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Dan Gilbert ain't in his feelins over Big Z??????????? Cowardice,betrayal??????????

Posted by: lilhollywood10

I hear Big Z personally went to Dan Gilbert and the Cavs GM, expressed his appreciation for all the years and told them he was signing with the Heat.

Totally different than the way The King Of Nothing made his announcement.

Posted by: Lisa_R | July 14, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

i tells you what, Cousins sure didnt look fat or out of shape last night. That kid is a MAN. And he has great footwork, passes well, gets after it on D. He looks like a steal at 5th. We;ll see if all the "bad attitude" stuff was real or not.

also, caracter can play!

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I hear Big Z personally went to Dan Gilbert and the Cavs GM, expressed his appreciation for all the years and told them he was signing with the Heat. Totally different than the way The King Of Nothing made his announcement.

Posted by: Lisa_R | July 14, 2010 9:46 AM


All that anger didn't come from "the way" LeBron announced he was leaving. It came from the fact that he was leaving. Would Gilbert have gone on a rant like he did over LeBron if Z's agent had told Gilbert that Z was leaving? I think not. Cash is King.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Cousins should have been the second pick...no question. In terms of talent, he is on par with Wall.

Posted by: merajc86 | July 14, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

i know the summer league doesnt mean much....but it's a great opportunity for players to show what they can do. Sloppy ball because it's all individuals trying to show themselves....but when a guy battles on the boards and gets after on D, that's real imho.

And on that note....bet the Pistons are already worried they made a mistake with our boy Monroe. He's getting whupped by more physical Cs

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Bilas (i think it was him) compared Monroe to Vlade Divacs...btw I love cross race comparisons....lol Greg Monroe to Vlade divacs...can we get more of these?

Posted by: merajc86 | July 14, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I hear Big Z personally went to Dan Gilbert and the Cavs GM, expressed his appreciation for all the years and told them he was signing with the Heat.

Totally different than the way The King Of Nothing made his announcement.

Posted by: Lisa_R | July 14, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse
did you really hear that? I guess Gilbert's fire and brimstone worked, nobody will leave the cavs without having to blow smoke up the owners a$$ on the way out,lest they be publicly tarred and feathered by Gilbert.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

"I hear Big Z personally went to Dan Gilbert and the Cavs GM, expressed his appreciation for all the years and told them he was signing with the Heat."

The big difference being Gilbert wasn't all that interested in holding on to Z.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Greg Monroe should be playing PF in the NBA, not Center. He is too thin to play Center.

Posted by: MeviousMan | July 14, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Monroe's not too thin to play C. It's not like there are a whole lot of hulking behemoth Cs left in the NBA.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

The big difference being Gilbert wasn't all that interested in holding on to Z.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

so since Gilbert didn't want him, his doin the exact same thing as Bron isn't cowardice or bertayal. Big Z forced a buyout just so gilbert could resign him (paying him twice in one year) for the playoffs, then he bolts for SoBe to angle for a chip with Bron. Much more of a standup guy than Tha Kang.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Late flight? It's an hour flight from LA to Vegas at most, so I'm sure he'll be ok. Can we please stop treating him like a baby now?

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | July 14, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 11:19 AM

You're forgetting the part where Le-Ego paid Jim Gray to pretend to interview him during a 1hr long self-adoration piece before slamming Cleveland to the dirt on national television. NOBODY faults Lebron for leaving, it's how he did it that ruined his rep. That and the fact that he chose never to be "the guy" as Barkley said.

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Greg Monroe should be playing PF in the NBA, not Center. He is too thin to play Center.

Posted by: MeviousMan

He's not too thin per se, but he will have to up his game a bit. He hasn't played 'strong' enough in Summer League, which doesn't bode well for the regular season. I don't want to call him a finesse player, because he's not really. He just needs to ramp up his physical play a few notches, the way most other skill-oriented bigs eventually have to. Divacs is a decent example, Gasol is another one. I'm sure Monroe will make the adjustment, it may just take him a while.

I think PF is a more natural position for him in the pros.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Monroe=Blatche2.0

Soft, highly skilled, big man who is adequate athletically and often shows up in questionable shape. Just like AB, he certainly can play C....but you gotta wonder if PF is actually where he'd find the most success

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You're forgetting the part where Le-Ego paid Jim Gray to pretend to interview him during a 1hr long self-adoration piece before slamming Cleveland to the dirt on national television. NOBODY faults Lebron for leaving, it's how he did it that ruined his rep. That and the fact that he chose never to be "the guy" as Barkley said.

Posted by: divi3

I think Gilbert was mad in general about LeBron leaving after having catered to him and his posse for years. But that's his own fault. I think Gilbert was also understandably upset about how LeBron put the show on, especially if there was already essentially an understanding in place between LBJ, Bosh and Wade. It just goes to reinforce the notion that the Wizards (and Skins) are well familiar with....that it's dangerous tying all your hopes to one player.

By the way, it cracks me up to hear Barkley say that, given that he also gave up being "The Guy" to go to Houston with Olajuwon and Pippen to get the jewelry, and considering he's no more accomplished than James. I generally like Barkley and generally don't like James, but that's just silly. It's like when Chris Webber starts pontificating about doing what it takes to win.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Monroe=Blatche2.0

Soft, highly skilled, big man who is adequate athletically and often shows up in questionable shape. Just like AB, he certainly can play C....but you gotta wonder if PF is actually where he'd find the most success

Posted by: divi3

Before we get too far down this road, any evidence the Pistons plan to play him at C more than PF? It might just be a Summer League thing. I haven't checked in to see what the Pistons have said about him after they took him.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Yup he is their center

Posted by: merajc86 | July 14, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

You're forgetting the part where Le-Ego paid Jim Gray to pretend to interview him during a 1hr long self-adoration piece before slamming Cleveland to the dirt on national television. NOBODY faults Lebron for leaving, it's how he did it that ruined his rep. That and the fact that he chose never to be "the guy" as Barkley said.

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 11:42 AM

He didn't slam Cleveland, unless you consider leaving them to be equivalent to a slam. When a superstar leaves a team it's very public no matter what.

Cleveland is headed to the lottery. Whether they find that out on a live program or in a press release matters little.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

You're forgetting the part where Le-Ego paid Jim Gray to pretend to interview him during a 1hr long self-adoration piece before slamming Cleveland to the dirt on national television. NOBODY faults Lebron for leaving, it's how he did it that ruined his rep. That and the fact that he chose never to be "the guy" as Barkley said.

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Lebron paying Jim Gray has been proven to be untrue. Gilbert didn't say the lebonathon was betrayal and cowardice, he said that his leaving to cowardice and betrayal.I don't agree that NOBODY is faulting him for leaving. As for cleveland being slammed to the ground, last time i checked, the city still exists and there is still a basketball team there. Sure there's 1 less "coward" on the team, but is that really a problem?


Now the issue of Bron being the man. He was the man in cleveland for 7 years, and it won him nothing. Some "smart" people say that doing the same thing and expecting a different result is crazy. But here's a newsflash, bron is the back to back NBA MVP. It's easily foreseeable that he can outplay Wade on "HIS OWN" team. Who's the man will be decided on the court. it'll always be Wade's town because he was their first. there's nothing wrong with Bron LETTING Wade carry that city while he focuses on getting his first ring.

People are gonna see it different ways, I'm cool with it. i was just trying to point out the irony, because as i said before, gilbert's statement was made because Lebron left. Gilbert wouldn't have had a peep to say about Jim Gray and the Lebronathon if he'd have announced that he was staying.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of the unfortunate but high-rated, hour long ESPN show on LBJ to South Beach, the difference between Z's and Lebron's departure for the same place and "Subprime Dan" Gilbert's varied reaction is that when LBJ left the value of the team dropped by as much as a quarter of a billion dollars. Z's departure probably didn't create a ripple.

More interesting is whether the three amigos had preconceived plans to end up at the same destination and whether it ever could have been New York or Chicago. Cleveland may have been an option for Lebron but I doubt Wade or Bosh ever considered it. Lebron may have been promoting the Cavs to Bosh, hence the dramatics.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 14, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

in fairness to chuck, he did preface the comment with "when i was 25", and talked about feeling like you are the Man at that age who will lead the guys around you to the Ring.

i'd imagine he'd freely admit that by 34 you are straight chasing it.

all the hoopla aside, i thought it was kind of an odd decision for the same reasons. 25yr old 2-time MVP coming off the best record in the league...how much could have been needed to get over the top

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Aside from Howard and Shaq, there are very few NBA C's who are particularly imposing physical specimens. As has been the case for a few years now, the primary physical trait separating PFs from Cs (assuming comparable length) isn't so much strength as it is lateral movement/quickness.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse


@merajc86

Anyway you slice it, there's a thug wannabe culture in the NBA. And Wall hasn't dribbled the ball once in an NBA game, so college doesn't matter. YOU are the one that fuels all the madness. YOU are the reason beers cost 8 bucks a pop. YOU are the problem, so buy another Arenas thug wannabe jersey sucker.

Posted by: hessone | July 14, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

i didnt know the Gray thing was false, my bad.

Notice who sits in the middle when those 3 do their press conferences, it's Wade and it will stay that way for the next 5yrs. And given Lebron's style of play, it's Wade who very well be taking the last shots (off sweet James dimes)...so I'd have disagree that Lebron will be letting Wade do anything. Wade already won, and added Bosh....so what if Lebron chose NJ? Miami would be stacked out and ready to roll without him. He followed them down there....and he calls himself The King? Maybe the Duke is a better fit!

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert wouldn't have had a peep to say about Jim Gray and the Lebronathon if he'd have announced that he was staying.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 12:04 PM |

Truer words have never been spoken. He never would have said LeBron quit in the Boston series either. Gilbert is the 7th grader who gets dumped by his first girlfriend and then starts telling the whole school she's a ho. And ugly too.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

all the hoopla aside, i thought it was kind of an odd decision for the same reasons. 25yr old 2-time MVP coming off the best record in the league...how much could have been needed to get over the top

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

you tell me, they flamed out in the second round, had no first round pick, and enough cash to sign Lebron and one other max player, other teams had enough to sign 2. When the sign and trade with Tor failed, there weren't too many other options. How do you convince a 20 something year old to come to CLe vs. SoBe?State tax vs No state tax. Legit chance at a title vs squeezing the last bit of juice from AJ and Shaq. i dunno, it seems like a lot of people think like Gilbert. Bron had to stay in Cle or for whatever reasons he's a coward, the show was a$$ but that's it.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"Before we get too far down this road, any evidence the Pistons plan to play him at C more than PF? It might just be a Summer League thing. I haven't checked in to see what the Pistons have said about him after they took him."

Dumars' was asked that question straight up and his answers were noncommittal at best. Since they just re-upped Wallace my guess is that the two of them will split time at C, and I would expect that Wallace would probably start there, at least to begin the season, with Monroe starting at PF.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

all the hoopla aside, i thought it was kind of an odd decision for the same reasons. 25yr old 2-time MVP coming off the best record in the league...how much could have been needed to get over the top

Posted by: divi3 |

That is what I wonder. As you mentioned, Clev. had the best record in league and lost in something they called the "Conference Championship" How much of an advantage does he need.

I understand that a lot of it is the way society is now and Lebron grew up in this being only 25 years old and all. It's the "Now Generation". The instant gradification. We hear it all the time in conversations and on blogs like this - "What has he won?" The ridiculous assertion that if a player or coach has not won a championship in 2-3 years they aren't worth a damn.

Lebron is coming of like a coward. He accepted the role of the city's "King". He gave input as to what players Cle. should target. He dance a took mock photo shoots when things were all good. He did quite when he realized Boston had there #. Now he is looking for an easy way to a Chip. It's just my personal opinion but I don't respect that.

Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

in fairness to chuck, he did preface the comment with "when i was 25", and talked about feeling like you are the Man at that age who will lead the guys around you to the Ring.

i'd imagine he'd freely admit that by 34 you are straight chasing it.

all the hoopla aside, i thought it was kind of an odd decision for the same reasons. 25yr old 2-time MVP coming off the best record in the league...how much could have been needed to get over the top

Posted by: divi3

At the same time, when Chuck was 25 he was on his fourth season in the NBA, not his 8th. At about the same time in his career, he was on his second team too.

"However, Barkley demanded a trade out of Philadelphia after the Sixers failed to make the postseason with a 35–47 record. On July 17, 1992, he was traded to the Phoenix Suns in exchange for Jeff Hornacek, Tim Perry and Andrew Lang."

Seems like Barkley also felt like maybe his best chance of winning lay elsewhere, not trying to stay in the same place and be "The Guy".

With the Cavs, hard to say. They might have only been one piece away. Whether they could get that piece to come to Cleveland? Who knows.

If you've played your entire career without a true #2 (though some of that might be his own fault), I can see the allure in going to Miami. Time will tell if it plays out.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy that BS either about "Nobody ever won by themselves" That's a complete con game. MJ playing alongside Pippen is a lot different then if MJ, Majic, and Bird all signed to play together.

Lebron is ducking that wreck. He went to go get some help. Nobody appreciates good competition anymore.

Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Aside from Howard and Shaq, there are very few NBA C's who are particularly imposing physical specimens. As has been the case for a few years now, the primary physical trait separating PFs from Cs (assuming comparable length) isn't so much strength as it is lateral movement/quickness.

Posted by: kalo_rama

There are fewer imposing specimens (though they've added a couple this year), but most of the guys who man the position play a more physical style than Monroe. Certainly there are guys like Perkins, Jefferson, Horford, Bogut, M. Gasol who present physical challenges, and to a lesser extent guys like Pryzbilla, Kaman, Bynum, Lopez, Noah, Nene, or even guys like Okafor, Haywood, and Dampier who use the size they have and are bangers.

You can get away with a less physical center in some matchups, but evenutally every team needs a guy down low who can be physical.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey Wizard brass I hope that you don't get rid of Gilbert this year. That would be very foolish. He has been a good player for most of his career. This mistake he made is over and done with. It makes good business sense to keep him and let him help the team to the playoffs. Don't listen to the these holy than thoul people who haven't commited mistakes in their life. (joke, joke) Go with what works!!!!!!!!!! signed Paulaburto3

Posted by: paulaburto3 | July 14, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is ducking that wreck. He went to go get some help. Nobody appreciates good competition anymore.


Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 12:33 PM

David Stern is considering cancelling the upcoming season and naming the Heat champions tomorrow since they're a cinch to win it all, right? Give me a break.

And by the way, Jordan had Pippen AND either Horace Grant or Dennis Rodman. So he always had at least two other guys who excelled at the respective positions. Who did LeBron have in Cleveland?

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I did not hear the Barkley comments but you never know, he may be acknowledging that he was never the #1 or even second best player in the league.

IMO LBJ is 1 or 2 talent, skill, and just hard to stop but he just showed me that even with all the Kobe comparisons, competitive fire is the characteristic that seperates the two.

Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy that BS either about "Nobody ever won by themselves" That's a complete con game. MJ playing alongside Pippen is a lot different then if MJ, Majic, and Bird all signed to play together.

Lebron is ducking that wreck. He went to go get some help. Nobody appreciates good competition anymore.
Posted by: millineumman

MJ, Magic, and Bird never had to worry about it. All 3 were playing with other still-capable HoFers almost from the get-go. MJ only was in his 4th season when Pippen and Grant were brought aboard. His attitude might have been different if he had to wait longer.

Durant resigning with OKC was a cool move, but would he have been willing to if there wasn't good talent next to him in Green, Westbrook and Harden?

I have no love for LeBron, but this whole discussion of him bailing on being "The Guy" strikes me as off. He seems to be a student of the NBA, and probably noticed that Karl Malone gets less props for staying in Utah for most of his career being "The Guy" and more often gets brought up on the list of guys who never won a ring. He has plenty of time to pull a "Kobe" and try to win some "on his own" after banking a few like Kobe did with Shaq.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

ur the best for admitting your distaste for Lebron, but not letting it betray your firm grasp on common sense and deductive reasoning.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 14, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

IMO LBJ is 1 or 2 talent, skill, and just hard to stop but he just showed me that even with all the Kobe comparisons, competitive fire is the characteristic that seperates the two.

Posted by: millineumman

Kobe was real competitive when he was trying to bail on the Lakers a few years back because they weren't winning, wasn't he?

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

IMO LBJ is 1 or 2 talent, skill, and just hard to stop but he just showed me that even with all the Kobe comparisons, competitive fire is the characteristic that seperates the two.

Posted by: millineumman

Kobe was real competitive when he was trying to bail on the Lakers a few years back because they weren't winning, wasn't he?

Posted by: harrybalz

I believe he also made a lot of noise about opting out of his contract and trying to go to a better team.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert is the 7th grader who gets dumped by his first girlfriend and then starts telling the whole school she's a ho. And ugly too.
Posted by: harrybalz

His comments were a hit in Cleveland; Stern's fine made him even more of a "hero" (fans are actually offering to help him pay the fine!).

All in all, he's a successful businessman for a reason: making the best of a bad situation.

Don't overplay the "anger" bet. Think "business."

Posted by: nmik | July 14, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"trying to bail on the Lakers"
Posted by: harrybalz

other than that, good point. I can acknowledge that. I just feel Cle. has been to the Finals and the round just before it. That's not indicative of a team that "can't get it done"

And no, Miami has not won it already. I don't think they automatically will. I think they are a very very strong contender. LBJ has a right to do whatever he wants, I don't begrudge him that. It's just my opinion that its the easy way out.

Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"There are fewer imposing specimens (though they've added a couple this year), but most of the guys who man the position play a more physical style than Monroe. Certainly there are guys like Perkins, Jefferson, Horford, Bogut, M. Gasol who present physical challenges, and to a lesser extent guys like Pryzbilla, Kaman, Bynum, Lopez, Noah, Nene, or even guys like Okafor, Haywood, and Dampier who use the size they have and are bangers."

None of the guys in that first group are overpoweringly strong. They may play aggressively, but matching that is more of a mental/attitudinal challenge than a physical one. Monroe (or, for that matter, Blatche) should be more than able to stand up to them physically. And aside from Okafor (who is really more of a PF himself), none those so called "bangers" offer anything offensively or are particularly active rebounders, so a surplus of physical power's not really needed to check them. On the other end, both Haywood and Dampier are slow afoot so a big with a face up game and decent-for-a-big-handle (which both Monroe and Blatche have) can get around them.

Point being, having Mourning-like biceps is hardly a prerequisite to successfully manning the C position these days in the NBA. There hasn't really been a sharp division between the positions for some time now.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 14, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: millineumman | July 14, 2010 1:08 PM

Kobe publicly stated that he wanted to be traded three years ago. That's a fact.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Point being, having Mourning-like biceps is hardly a prerequisite to successfully manning the C position these days in the NBA. There hasn't really been a sharp division between the positions for some time now.

Posted by: kalo_rama

I'm not totally disagreeing with you (there are parts I would, but it's moot to the larger discussion), I'm just saying that Monroe is getting pushed around a bit in Summer League. That doesn't bode well for the regular season, where the guys are generally bigger and generally better at using their size. Much like we frequently see with Blatche and McGee, it doesn't take Mourning-like biceps to overpower someone playing like Monroe is right now.

Much like AB, while Monroe can and will probably play some C, for me, PF is a more natural position for his game right now.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Dan Gilbert may feel like he was justified. And (though I suspect most people think he looks foolish) he may even think he won the verbal battle. But he may have lost the war. Certainly the war of public opinion. But more importantly, what significant free agent will EVER sign with him now? Everyone knows (and the players know this) how much money Lebron has made for Gilbert over the last few years... As long as Gilbert owns the team, they will likely only be able to sign 2nd tier guys they will have to overpay to land.

Posted by: psdfx | July 14, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Dan Gilbert may feel like he was justified. And (though I suspect most people think he looks foolish) he may even think he won the verbal battle. But he may have lost the war. Certainly the war of public opinion. But more importantly, what significant free agent will EVER sign with him now? Everyone knows (and the players know this) how much money Lebron has made for Gilbert over the last few years... As long as Gilbert owns the team, they will likely only be able to sign 2nd tier guys they will have to overpay to land.

Posted by: psdfx

Gilbert did manage to do the almost impossible and make LeBron come out as a sympathetic figure to some people.

Posted by: ts35 | July 14, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and can we PLEASE stop with the "trade Gil" thoughts?

Love him or hate him / think he has the potential to bounce back or think he is a cancer, here is the bottom line: His trade value is unlikely to ever be lower. His reputation is damaged and he hasn't played a full season in, like, forever.

If it is a certainty that he must be traded, let him prove he can still play (and I think he will prove that) and his value will go up. I, for one, definitely do not think he should be traded (and certainly not right now). I look forward to watching him spot up for open 3s that Wall sets him up for (and then blowing by his defender if they get in his face). Gil may not really have ever shown a passion for defense, but the Wall/Arenas combo will be really hard to defend at the other end of the court.

I absolutely want to see them play together for a while, and would hate to jettison a guy who has been a proven scorer in this league and isn't terribly old. Add Wall's ability to get the ball to Gil, and I suspect Arenas will score more efficiently than he ever has.

On a wholly different note, this will be one of the most fascinating years ever. Is this a lottery team? Possibly. Can the addition of Wall keep us in contention for a playoff spot? Possibly. But the front line is SCARY-inexperienced. I hope they throw all the young guys in the pool and see if they can swim. But I'd sure like to see the team sign a 3.

Posted by: psdfx | July 14, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

i think what scared lebron into running to Dwade for help is not that he doesnt think Cle could win one....but that he doesnt think one or two rings is enough. Or 3. Or 5 maybe. He wants to lay claim to greatest of all-times, probably feels like time is running out. Not to win one, but to dynasty like 6 rings.

Posted by: divi3 | July 14, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"scared lebron"..."running to Dwade"

lol.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 14, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: OneDotToAnother | July 14, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

john wall is a lil balla!!all the jealous people can get over it and just respect the wildcat!!

Posted by: jwallzfan | July 15, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

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