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John Wall on LeBron James' ESPN special: "He can do certain things like that"


Hey, LeBron has earned the hype. (Photo by Ned Dishman/Wizards Photos)


The 'round the clock LeBronothon is moving closer to closure, ending a nauseating news cycle centered around the most celebrated free agent decision in NBA history. LeBron James has been discussed seemingly everywhere -- on ESPN, on gossip Websites, on morning talk shows, on radio, even President Barack Obama has weighed in -- and Wizards No. 1 overall pick John Wall doesn't have a problem with it. Wall was asked on Wednesday about all the attention James has been receiving, which will culminate in a one-hour telecast on ESPN -- or is that ESPBron?

"That's crazy, having a whole hour [special] to just pick where he's going to go, but hey, he's LeBron James. He can do certain things like that," Wall said the Washington Wizards Basketball Camp at Archbishop Spalding High School in Severn. "To market him as the NBA's top player means a lot. Basically he's going to make a decision, and everybody can't wait to see it ... All SportsCenter has been about is LeBron and baseball That's all you're going to see. Hopefully it will end [on Thursday]."

Wall is friends with James and sought his advice about handling the hype and expectations that come from being the top pick in the NBA draft. The two hung out last month in Los Angeles, where James threw a party for Wall and his friends during the NBA Finals. Wall said he had no insight on where James will land.

"It's tough for him," Wall said. "Cleveland is where he's been. It's his hometown. All the fans, people supporting him. It's a tough process, you know. You've got to do what's best for you help you to win a championship ring and basically make yourself more marketable."

James is rumored to be leaning toward Miami, where he would possibly leave behind nearly $30 million over a six-year contract but could actually make more money over a five-year span, according to CNBC's Darren Rovell. On the possibility of James playing with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh for the Miami Heat, Wall said, "That's big for them. Dwyane Wade is the ultimate player, and Chris Bosh, two all-star type players on one team. They can help everyone around them and start winning more games for their team."

It would also establish another powerhouse in the Eastern Conference, and the Southeast Division, where four of the five teams made the playoffs last season. The Wizards could be looking at some more fifth place finishes for a long time. Miami will be good with or without James, Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando any time soon, Atlanta is set up to be good for several years and Charlotte is finally making some strides.

You think James would enjoy punishing the Wizards as a division foe for the next five years?


By Michael Lee  |  July 8, 2010; 12:37 PM ET
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10 million per year contract, or playing with James, Bosh and Wade at minimum? Seems they'll only be attracting minimum players who have had their big paydays already (read: over the hill). If I were Miami's brass, I'd only be signing those type of players to 1-year contracts, or they'll have to open a retirement home next to the arena.

Posted by: creativefunk | July 8, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't think he'll go to Miami. He'd have to share the limelight and he's not used to that. In cleveland it'd be the Labron show. In Miami it'd be the "big 3" show.
But i'd be surprised if he stays a Cav.
Seems like he was headed outa town last year.

Posted by: VBFan | July 8, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Outlaw 5 years at 35 mil to the Net's.

Really happy to see EG being patient and not reaching and paying 35 million for back-ups.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 8, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I still consider Orlando and the Hawks better than the Heat at the moment.

The division is becoming down right nasty.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I still consider Orlando and the Hawks better than the Heat at the moment.

The division is becoming down right nasty.

Posted by: dcinmd1

True. Every division game pretty much lets the Wiz know where they stand in the league. With our current team, I'd say 4 wins in division would be a great accomplishment (assuming James lands in MIA).

Posted by: creativefunk | July 8, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't think he'll go to Miami. He'd have to share the limelight and he's not used to that. In cleveland it'd be the Labron show. In Miami it'd be the "big 3" show.
But i'd be surprised if he stays a Cav.
Seems like he was headed outa town last year.


Posted by: VBFan | July 8, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse
do you really think he's holding a hour long press conference because he's gonna be the second fiddle? furthermore do you think ESPN, the very "news network" at the head of this "hypefest" is gonna cover him like he's anything less than the best player in the game?
With him and Wade on the same team the arguement over who is the better of those two dies. He may actually perform better in MIA statistically than he ever has before. If another team dares double him it's almost certain that Wade or Bosh will finish when he finds them, vs. him kicking it out to the likes of Anthony parker,Jamario Moon or Metawn. he may actually average a triple double, something only one other player in the history of the game has done. That distinction should enhance his place in history, championship or not.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 8, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 8, 2010 1:14 PM

Agreed 100%. There's talk that James might be used at point guard quite a bit, which would really get his assists up there.

We get on athletes all the time for saying it's not about the money and then making sure they don't leave one penny on the table. It looks like these guys really want to win.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Agreed 100%. There's talk that James might be used at point guard quite a bit, which would really get his assists up there.

We get on athletes all the time for saying it's not about the money and then making sure they don't leave one penny on the table. It looks like these guys really want to win.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

D'Antoni's 7 sec or less offense would also lead to more offensive opps/chances for assts. NY or MIA seem like the best two options, but home is where the heart is.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

LeBron James announces that he will buy the Miami Heat, endorse the New York Knicks, marry two of the LA Clippers’ Spirit Dancers in a Utah ceremony in August, become Executive Vice President of Mining and Distribution for Polyus Gold (NJ Nets’ owner Mikhail Prokhorov’s gold empire) and play basketball part-time for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Read the FUNNY article here:

http://www.dailygoat.com/2010/07/lebron-james-gives-thanks-god-signing-10-year-100m-endorsement-deal-heaven/

Posted by: eye95 | July 8, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I still consider Orlando and the Hawks better than the Heat at the moment.

The division is becoming down right nasty.

Posted by: dcinmd1

You are giving too much credit to the Hawks. And now that Johnson got his payday,(BTW no one should have been shicked at him staying. He said when he signed with the Hawks the first time that all he was looking for was $. The stunner is the Hawks kept him.) he will be even less effective.

Posted by: Hank4 | July 8, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know when the Chicago trade (Kirk/Serapphin) will be finalized?? Reports on draft night said July 8th...well????

Posted by: Bullzards80 | July 8, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Wade will always be The Man in Miami as far as the fans there are concerned, as well he should be. He already won them a Ring and has lured Bosh down there. There very well could be Miami fans down there who dont even want Lebron for the very reasons people here are mentioning about how to fill out the rest of the roster. Not to mention the Heat have been competing against Lebron since he came in the league and eclipsed their guy.

Yeah, espn will alway say Lebron is best (and he is better than Wade obviously)....but Miami will always be DWade's crib first and foremost IMO.

I think Lebron miscalculated here (if indeed Miami is the destination).....deciding this after Wade and Bosh make their moves seems like they dictated his decision despite this supposedly being "The Summer of Lebron"

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

True. Every division game pretty much lets the Wiz know where they stand in the league. With our current team, I'd say 4 wins in division would be a great accomplishment (assuming James lands in MIA).

Posted by: creativefunk | July 8, 2010 1:13 PM

Hopefully he does go to Miami, get all those mugs on one team and let someone else upset them. Individually they were beating us anyway, at least this way the Cavs and Raptors are doomed.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

When player X was 25 years old, he averaged 21 PPG, shot 51% and grabbed 10 rpg.

Player Y (at 22 years old) averaged 22PPG, grabbed 9RPG and shot 49%


Player X was Otis Thorpe with the Sacramento Kings.

Player Y was Juwan Howard.

Chris Bosh is NOT a max player, IMO.

Posted by: original_mark | July 8, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 1:42 PM

Just because LeBron tells us what his decision is tonight doesn't mean he didn't actually decide before Bosh and Wade. Over the coming days I suspect we'll hear how everything went down.

On who's the man: Usually the fans go for the most exciting player. Time will tell if that's LeBron or Wade, but LeBron certainly has the greater skillset, imo. I think they'll always love Wade as long as he continues to bring it, but that doesn't mean that LeBron can't/won't become the fan favorite.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Apparently the Miami brass doesnt realize that those 3 guys are not going to be able to play 40+ minutes each per night. With no bench, they may be playing from behind every 4th quarter. Of course, they'll get EVERY call down the stretch so it might work out.
I wouldnt risk it. I can see Bosh leaving Toronto because with the 50% (or close to it) tax rate combined with no state tax in FL, he's not taking as big of a pay cut as is being reported.

But James to Miami? Hmmm?

Posted by: original_mark | July 8, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

When player X was 25 years old, he averaged 21 PPG, shot 51% and grabbed 10 rpg.

Player Y (at 22 years old) averaged 22PPG, grabbed 9RPG and shot 49%


Player X was Otis Thorpe with the Sacramento Kings.

Player Y was Juwan Howard.

Chris Bosh is NOT a max player, IMO.

Posted by: original_mark | July 8, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse


Exactly! I said the same thing about Bosh on the ESPN boards. He's nothing but an OVERRATED young PF who seems lucky to have such good friends in the league!

Posted by: Bullzards80 | July 8, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

You are giving too much credit to the Hawks. And now that Johnson got his payday,(BTW no one should have been shicked at him staying. He said when he signed with the Hawks the first time that all he was looking for was $. The stunner is the Hawks kept him.) he will be even less effective.
Posted by: Hank4 | July 8, 2010 1:40 PM

The Hawks went 53-29 last year, finished 3rd in the east ahead of Boston and are not losing anyone from their roster. In my opinion they have the best power forward in the East in the next few years in Josh Smith and have top five picks in Horford and Williams. All of who are only 24 and only going to grow into better players.

Their team is sick, the only worry is how much longer is Bibby going to hold up.

I bet you they have a better record than the Heat next year.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 8, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Just because LeBron tells us what his decision is tonight doesn't mean he didn't actually decide before Bosh and Wade. Over the coming days I suspect we'll hear how everything went down.

On who's the man: Usually the fans go for the most exciting player. Time will tell if that's LeBron or Wade, but LeBron certainly has the greater skillset, imo. I think they'll always love Wade as long as he continues to bring it, but that doesn't mean that LeBron can't/won't become the fan favorite.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 1:54 PM

So Lebron chooses Miami tonight, but then his boys claim he told Wade and Bosh last week and that's the really reason they went with Miami? If you think Lebron is getting flak for this ESPN special, just wait and see what the reaction will be should he try and re-write history on who decided to go where when!

Let's say Gil never got hurt or effed up with guns, and he'd led us to a Championship a few years back and been a great player every since. Is there anyway a FA could sign here and eclipse him among the fans? I cant see it, and I can only imagine how much Miami peeps love DWade.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: djnnnou | July 8, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"Worst deal ever?"

Not even close. Is it more than he's worth? Certainly. But in the current inflated market, it's probably close to what passes for fair market value.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Center Brendan Haywood agreed to a six-year, $55 million deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, according to two sources.

Worst deal ever?

Posted by: djnnnou

It's not a great deal, but it's not even close to the worst ever. It's a little strange that they gave him a six-year deal, though given his age. I wonder if it's structured like Dampier's was, so that it's only guaranteed under certain conditions (minutes played per season, etc).

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Brendan? $55M??

Wow. Didn't he lose his starting job and minutes when Dampier got healthy?

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

in my mind, james and bosh are coming to wade, wade is the home player. he's the leader. he's won a championship, as previously said, the fans love him, any success this team has may give lebron and bosh lots of fan love, but their love for wade will increase too, keeping him #1.....unless he gets injured

Posted by: hb_321 | July 8, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Dirk's deal may be even worse, Cuban has lost his mind. He's shelling out so much for a team that's proven it won't win. How many 1st round exits in the past 5yrs? Yeah Mark, better lock all those guys up for the long hall. They're all over 30, just when they should starting getting better huh

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Dirk's deal may be even worse, Cuban has lost his mind. He's shelling out so much for a team that's proven it won't win. How many 1st round exits in the past 5yrs? Yeah Mark, better lock all those guys up for the long hall. They're all over 30, just when they should starting getting better huh

Posted by: divi3

Those are tough deals to swallow, but I understand what he's doing. When you have a great player, you sort of have to play out the string. If he didn't sign Dirk back, the Mavs would look a lot like the Cavs probably are going to. At least for now they have some sort of hope, even if it's growing fainter. And in a couple of years, they'll have some flexibility (depending on the new CBA).

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

But Dirk is 32 and is now owed $80mill! As much as people love the guy, it's pretty clear now he's not nearly enough to take you anywhere near the Promised Land...they havent done squat in the playoffs for a long time. I think Cuban's personal affection has as much to do with paying him that much as anything else....which is fine obviously, it's Cuban's money. But from the outside it's hard to see how Cuban can think tying up $135mill in Dirk and Haywood leads to a Championship.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The lebron jamesathon will go down as the most egotistical, narcisistic 1 hour special... but will be entertaining.

It would start out with something like this
Ryan Seacrest: I am ryan seacrest and we will find out where in the world will Lebron go...after this 20 minute interview with Lebron.

Lebron: Hey, I'm LBJ and some of you think of me as a shameless self promoter with no rings but look at my mvp trophies.

30 mins later

Ryan Seacrest: and the city lebron chose is... long pause... gonna be revealed after a guest performance by Jay-Z.

Just tune in the last 5 mins

Posted by: jefferu | July 8, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

But Dirk is 32 and is now owed $80mill! As much as people love the guy, it's pretty clear now he's not nearly enough to take you anywhere near the Promised Land...they havent done squat in the playoffs for a long time. I think Cuban's personal affection has as much to do with paying him that much as anything else....which is fine obviously, it's Cuban's money. But from the outside it's hard to see how Cuban can think tying up $135mill in Dirk and Haywood leads to a Championship.

Posted by: divi3

The alternative for Cuban is that they stink for a few years, and I'm sure that's not an acceptable option. At least for the short-term, they're likely still a playoff team. Which also coincidentally means that the arena will stay mostly full.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

surprising thing about Haywood's deal is Cuban JUST got out from under Dampier's absurd number....so he runs out and overpays an identically lacking player as fast as he can. wtf

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Dirk's deal may be even worse.

Dirk's deal is a golden parachute. It's part of the NBA culture now.

Posted by: djnnnou | July 8, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"But Dirk is 32 and is now owed $80mill! As much as people love the guy, it's pretty clear now he's not nearly enough to take you anywhere near the Promised Land...they havent done squat in the playoffs for a long time."

They got to the Finals 4 years ago and won 2 games. That's closer to the Promised Land than Lebron has ever been.

An easy argument could be made that Dirk was never the problem; the problem was the weak caliber of Robin's he had to go along with his Batman. Kobe had Shaq (or Shaq had Kobe, depending on your POV), Wade had Shaq, Kobe had Gasol, Duncan had Parker/Ginobili. Dirk had . . . Jerry Stackhouse? Josh Howard? Jason Terry? A geriatric Jason Kidd? Yeah, he had Nash, but that was (A) back in the Nellie ball days, and we know how well that works in the playoffs and (B) before he rounded into MVP form (interesting how both he and Dirk seemed to blossom as players after they broke up). Dirk's never had a real championship caliber roster around him, and part of the reason is Cuban's insistence on retooling rather than rebuilding. Every couple of years he overpays for some overhyped and/or over-the-hill vet hoping to squeeze one more heyday out of them. That's how he ended up with a roster full of 3o-somethings with big contracts, a couple of young-ish career-backup quality guys and precious little in between. This is just Cuban doing what Cuban does.

I said a while ago that parting ways would probably be best for Dirk and the Mavs, but I never really expected it. Now they're locked right back into the same pattern that's failed to get them anywhere the past several years.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Dont get me wrong, 6/55M is alot for Brendan. No doubt. But its not that horrible. True centers are very hard to find in the league these days. I would much rather have Haywood (a starting caliber center who stays in the paint in a league with few of them) for ~9M/yr than Kirk Heinrich (an average backup guard in a league where guards are a dime a dozen) for ~9M/yr.

Posted by: FunStreet | July 8, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Dirk is a jump shooting big man who plays no defense. The fact he may be the best shooter in league history offsets a lot, but at the end of the day you dont win Championships when your best player falls into the aforementioned category.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@FunStreet,

The difference is that Hinrich's deal (A) only last two years and (B) decreases in value in the last year. By the time Haywood gets to the last year of his deal he'll be 36 years old and (depending on what the first year salary and raises are) he could be making $13 or 14 mill.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Dont get me wrong, 6/55M is alot for Brendan. No doubt. But its not that horrible. True centers are very hard to find in the league these days. I would much rather have Haywood (a starting caliber center who stays in the paint in a league with few of them) for ~9M/yr than Kirk Heinrich (an average backup guard in a league where guards are a dime a dozen) for ~9M/yr.

Posted by: FunStreet | July 8, 2010 2:57 PM

But can Brendon mentor anyone??

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

The Thunder trade for Cole Aldrich and Morris Petersen.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5364455

I think this is a good deal for them. There's a lot of mixed opinion about Aldrich's NBA potential, but if he's even a passable NBA performer he could help OKC. The one thing we saw in that Lakers series is how badly they need some real size and muscle on their front line. If Aldrich only tops out as a decent Joel Przybilla impersonator, that could be a plus for the Thunder.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

But can Brendon mentor anyone??

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

He mentor Etan with a couple of fists in practice. : )

Ehhh I just couldn't let it go.

He does have his own radio show. That has to count for something.

On Haywood contract, long contract for a aging big man.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 8, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

in my mind, james and bosh are coming to wade, wade is the home player. he's the leader. he's won a championship, as previously said, the fans love him, any success this team has may give lebron and bosh lots of fan love, but their love for wade will increase too, keeping him #1.....unless he gets injured

Posted by: hb_321 | July 8, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

you could have a pointas far as why they came to Wade. him being the only one with a chip is definitely a reason he would have leverage if they all agreed to play together. it's also possible that he was the only one that wasn't willing to take a pay cut to be together. another factor is the taxes. no state income tax in florida makes it a lil easier to leave cash on the table in other cities, kinda like Chilly going Euro for the currency.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 8, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

This is just Cuban doing what Cuban does.
Posted by: kalo_rama

I would have thought that the Mavs would have found a way to parlay what should have been a very valuable chip this offseason -- Dampier's $13M non-guaranteed contract -- into something useful. Maybe they still will. Maybe they'll be one of the sign-and-trade partners. Not sure which one of the names being thrown out makes sense for them. But it's starting to seem more likely that if they get anything out of that contract, it won't be a 'Robin', it will be more like guys like Hinrich.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The fact he may be the best shooter in league history offsets a lot
Posted by: divi3

Ever hear of a kid named Larry Bird?

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"But it's starting to seem more likely that if they get anything out of that contract, it won't be a 'Robin', it will be more like guys like Hinrich."

Batgirls? Alfreds? Commissioner Gordons?

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

But it's starting to seem more likely that if they get anything out of that contract, it won't be a 'Robin', it will be more like guys like Hinrich.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:16 PM

Dirk is Robin, that's the fatal flaw in paying him like Batman. But as you said, packed arenas every season is in and of itself good business

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Chris Bosh may or may not be a MAX player, but then again 9 out of 10 players that sign those contracts aren't. See Joe Johnson, Jermaine O'Neal, Gilbert Arenas (virtually maxed), hell even Z in Cleveland has signed contracts worth $150 million during his career. It's why the NBA is in financially unstable territory and a long lockout is looming in 2011. The rest of the economy has contracted while NBA contracts keep an upward trajectory. It can't be sustained.

As far as LeBron, I'll be surprised if he doesn't go to Miami or, perhaps, Chicago. The Cavs just don't have enough to win it all and his legacy at the end of the day will be determined by how many rings he has at the end of his career. If he stays, he may be the next Charles Barkley. If he goes to Miami, he probably wins at least one maybe two championships although filling out that roster will be nearly impossible. A better opportunity would also exist in Chicago. Regardless, the Wiz aren't even in the conversation for another 3/4 years so having Bosh, Wade, and LJ on the same team may not be all that bad.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 8, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

That Thunder deal does look good and it would seem to be a scenario we could have pulled off had we been inclined. Safe to say EG thinks Seraphin will be better than Aldrich? Or is that not allowed as it leads to eventually holding EG accountable for how draft picks turn out?

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Dirk is Robin, that's the fatal flaw in paying him like Batman. But as you said, packed arenas every season is in and of itself good business

Posted by: divi3

Let's face it, Dirk really is Green Arrow.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"Dirk is Robin, that's the fatal flaw in paying him like Batman. "

Based on what actual evidence? Again, he's taken his team further in the playoffs than Lebron, who's a consensus Batman. He took his team further in the playoffs than Kobe ever has without an all-world player beside him. And he battled Duncan to a standstill the year the Mavs made it to the Finals.

Is Dirk a player that can single-handedly carry a team to a title? No, but neither are Lebron, Kobe, DWade, Duncan, or Shaq. But the fact that he carried them as far as he did with minimal help certainly makes it reasonable to think he could have carried them the 4 extra games they needed to win a title if he'd had someone of the caliber of Gasol or Ginobili supporting him, instead of the mostly B- and C-listers he's had.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

lmao, the exact range on BH's contract that I predicted a year ago and got scoffed at on these boards. I am not one to say I told you so, but I told you so. He has far surpassed being a bargain at that price, but that is the NBA these days. Another bad (read vastly overpaid) NBA contract. Go figure! Hey, Cuban, you want to take GA off our hands as well in a desperate attempt to remain relevant???? Maybe NY is not satisfied with just Amare???

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 8, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"Chris Bosh may or may not be a MAX player, but then again 9 out of 10 players that sign those contracts aren't. See Joe Johnson, Jermaine O'Neal, Gilbert Arenas (virtually maxed), hell even Z in Cleveland has signed contracts worth $150 million during his career. It's why the NBA is in financially unstable territory and a long lockout is looming in 2011. The rest of the economy has contracted while NBA contracts keep an upward trajectory. It can't be sustained."

Agreed. But the root problem won't be solved by a lockout or a new CBA. The owners are trying to implement all of these supposed safeguards to protect them financially from players and agents when what they really need is protection from themselves.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"But it's starting to seem more likely that if they get anything out of that contract, it won't be a 'Robin', it will be more like guys like Hinrich."

Batgirls? Alfreds? Commissioner Gordons?

Posted by: kalo_rama

I'd trade Dampier for Yvonne Craig, no question.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It's funny kal how disdainful you are of soft jump shooting big men who dont play D except for this one instance where you're putting Dirk up there with Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, etc.

Evidence? Dirk's team has been bounced out of the 1st round of the playoffs by the lower seed 3 of the past 4yrs. The year they did get to the Finals, the exact reason they didnt win is because while Wade took it to the rack and shot an absurd amount of FTs, the Mavs had to rely on jumpers to fall.

Lebron is 25yrs old, give him 8 more years before you try to side-by-side their careers.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Again, he's taken his team further in the playoffs than Lebron,

In fairness, LeBron did get his team to the Finals, too, even if they got swept. And it's not like LeBron's supporting cast has been superior to Dirk's. But your point is still true. LeBron is supposed to be an alpha among alphas, but he hasn't taken his teams farther than Dirk.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@ Kal,

Splitting hairs, but it is has been talked about for years that Dirk is not a 1A caliber player. He did have a lot of very solid players on that roster albeit no clear cut "robin" if he is indeed a "batman". I count at least 5 players that have made an all-star team besides Dirk on that finals roster. Plus, very solid role players.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 8, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

@ Kal,

Agreed. It seems the owners need an agreement to save them from themselves. Kind of absurd when you think about it. I am all for players getting their fair share, but the NBA has been out of whack for years. The players virtually own the NBA these days. Teams worth $350 million paying players $100 million dollars is laughable.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 8, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Shaq has gotten $290,000,000 in salary....that has got be the record for American sports, at least until Arod's deal finishes. Unreal!

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Any chance Shaq files for bankruptcy two years after retiring?

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Shaq has gotten $290,000,000 in salary....that has got be the record for American sports, at least until Arod's deal finishes. Unreal!

Posted by: divi3

ARod may be past that already, if not he's close. But it is definitely crazy to think about.

The other crazy thing to think about is that Phil Mickelson is ahead of LeBron in Endorsement $$s, at least last year.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/specials/fortunate50/

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Oops, looks like that was 2007.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Just tune in the last 5 mins

Posted by: jefferu

Heard this morning (think it was on Mike & Mike) that Lebron will announce "The Decision" (heaven help us all!) within the first 10 minutes of his ego tripping show.

Posted by: Lisa_R | July 8, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

so where's the Hinrich/Seraphin news? The Curse would lead me to worry Ernie is crying over an mri right now, but I'd like to think we're past those days.

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

so where's the Hinrich/Seraphin news? The Curse would lead me to worry Ernie is crying over an mri right now, but I'd like to think we're past those days.

Posted by: divi3

All of the transactions were officially turned in today. The NBA still has to go over them, make sure they're kosher and crunch the numbers. I don't know if the NBA starts any of that due dilligence work before the deals are officially turned in.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

That Thunder deal does look good and it would seem to be a scenario we could have pulled off had we been inclined. Safe to say EG thinks Seraphin will be better than Aldrich? Or is that not allowed as it leads to eventually holding EG accountable for how draft picks turn out?

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse
I do not think EG was looking for the french man,he was trading the position.
I was not there but,i suspect he probably get exited to the 17th spot than to 11 spot due to his long time interest to have KH to play for him and most of all the 3 million. I will still take the contract of KH than Paterson.As soon as i knew about the interest of hornet to trade their 11th pick i commented in this blog for wizard to jump and take the contract of posey with the pick considering his contribution on defense and out side shooting,i think EG either might not expect Posey to play for wiz or he did not like a 3rd year player obtion contract to come to washington.

Posted by: gtefferra | July 8, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 8, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

the mavs won 2 games in the finals thus extending the series to 6 games versus 4 when the cavs were swept by SA, but is that really further in the playoffs? I mean the finals is the finals, meaning last possible round to advance to, and neither team won it so how did Dirk go further in the playoffs?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 8, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gtefferra | July 8, 2010 4:37 PM

love your cryptic posts, more wisdom than most! You could be correct about that player option, Ernie hates those (see: Mike James, QRoss)

however it would bother me if hinrich is the impetus for getting the 17th pick rather than the 11th. That would seem like a sorry decision given we're supposed to be rebuilding and CaptKirk is a short-termer. I'd rather have the 11th pick and Mo Peterson's 1yr deal, unless I thought Seraphin is really where it's at and available with Hinrich in a win-win

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Heard this morning (think it was on Mike & Mike) that Lebron will announce "The Decision" (heaven help us all!) within the first 10 minutes of his ego tripping show."

If he does this, the sponsors who bought time later in the show will be ROYALLY hacked off, as people will be tuning out in droves right after the announcement is made. I'm guessing that he does it right after the last commercial break.


Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | July 8, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

The difference is that Hinrich's deal (A) only last two years and (B) decreases in value in the last year. By the time Haywood gets to the last year of his deal he'll be 36 years old and (depending on what the first year salary and raises are) he could be making $13 or 14 mill.

Posted by: kalo_rama

I'm not defending the contract length by any stretch. I was stating that its not as terrible as was being stated. Its actually a 5 year deal with a year 6 option. So he'll be 35, which for a big man that doesn't rely on athleticism is not all that old. If as you suggest the last year is worth 13+M, that means its really about 5/42M. Again, not horrible in this day and age for a true NBA center, which are not a dime a dozen, as combo guards (who aren't true points but don't have the size and athleticism to be true 2's either) are.

Posted by: FunStreet | July 8, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

But can Brendon mentor anyone??

Posted by: divi3 | July 8, 2010 3:06 PM

I don't believe he is willing to do it.
He was once asked what he is imparting to his new teammate Javale McGee, and his answer was something to the effect that "we are all professionals and need to come to work hard and improve ourselves". In other words he wasn't going to be doing Javale any favors so he could take his starting job away from him.
He probably enjoys observing and commenting more than mentoring and coaching and once made the comment that that's where his future interest lay.

Posted by: rickgonz | July 8, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The heat will have at least 2 or 3 major mismatches every night. The wizards will not win until d-wade's game drops. Hopefully that will happen in about 4 years and by that time we have 2 or 3 lottery stars on the wiz.

Posted by: nfcBEaST | July 8, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Lebron will (unfortunately) get a really nice ego massage from whatever team he goes with. Maybe that can be justified because he's a good ballplayer. What's really obscene is the amount Nike pays him just for wearing their stuff. And both the Cavs and Nike started this narcissistic train rolling before he ever took a shot, travelled, or got away with a foul in a pro game. Think about it: At that point nobody had seen him play against people seasoned by some college ball and a couple of years in the pros.

Posted by: jlhare1 | July 8, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"James would make a huge financial sacrifice to leave Cleveland, with the Cavaliers capable of signing him to a maximum six-year contract for about $125 million. He would have to take a five-year deal worth nearly $100 million to leave.." -Michael Lee

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Someone really needs to explain to Michael Lee, aka the least intelligent reporter in DC, that LeBron would not be making a "huge financial sacrifice to leave Cleveland." He would be making $20.8 million per year with Cleveland and $20.0 million per year elsewhere. 800,000 a year, after taxes in his income bracket, would be roughly $400,000 per year. Hardly a "huge financial sacrifice" to someone who is worth as much money as LeBron James.

Seriously, Michael Lee, you are simply not a smart human being. My toaster has a higher IQ than you. This much we know. But perhaps you could have someone proofread your work so you wouldn't embarrass yourself and the Washington Post as often as you do.

p.s. please don't come back with any lame comment about the financial security of a 6th year vs a 5th year. I could just as easily argue LeBron would be in better position to earn another max contract at age 30 when a 5 year contract would be up than he would be at age 31 when a 6 year deal would be up.

Posted by: Barno1 | July 8, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Barno1 | July 8, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

There Is A Sickening Rumor Cirulating:

some other sites are reporting that news will break out of Chicago tomorrow that Gil tore his acl.

Lets hope & pray that its not true. It just cant be

Posted by: dlts2041 | July 8, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

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