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John Wall overcomes shaky start to finish in full command


Which way should I go? (NBAE/Getty Images)


John Wall's summer league debut was mostly predictable and somewhat surprising, with the 19-year-old rookie making hurried mistakes in the early going before settling into a commanding floor general before the buzzer sounded. He made mistakes - some were eye-covering, others were laughable - but his speed, athleticism and instincts will help him adjust to this league pretty quickly until he eventually figures out what he's doing.

Wall had 24 points and eight assists, but he also had eight turnovers with the pace of the NBA game appearing overwhelming at times - with the 24-second shot clock and superior athletes pressuring him into making snap-finger decisions. It was a little strange to hear Wall after the game explain how the size of the NBA ball was a little different than the one he was used to handling in college or high school. "But you can't make excuses, so get used to it," Wall said.

Wall won't have to make many excuses for his performance, especially in the final three quarters of the game, when he got comfortable and settled into the game. He'll eventually play a more controlled game, but the most impressive aspect of his Wizards debut was his floor presence and how his teammates awaited his leadership and responded. He was by far the youngest player on the floor, but the Wizards kept looking to him for direction. And, when they didn't, Wall told them where they needed to be.

"Me as a point guard I have to tell them to be in the right spots and sometimes, we got confused and I had to tell them to be in the right spots," Wall said. "It's not me trying to be bossy and say I'm not bigger or better than anybody, my role is to tell them where to be and give my team the best chance to win."


I don't run through you, I run past you. (AP Photo)

JaVale McGee seemed to the be primary benefactor of Wall's dishes, with the two connecting for three alley-oop dunks, which looked so simple as Wall just tossed the ball near the rim and let McGee do the rest. The rest of the time, Wall was yelling to his teammates, "Get me assists. Get me assists."

Wall's best pass came in the third quarter, when he drew three defenders, and flipped a pass to Raymar Morgan along the baseline for a two-handed dunk. Wall kicked out his foot and pumped his fist to celebrate as if he had scored the basket. Coach Flip Saunders said Wall probably should've had a few more assists, but "he had about four assists [lost] because guys couldn't handle his passes."

"It's definitely lovely," McGee said of Wall's ball distribution. "He's looking for passes and he's looking for his own, so it's even. It's no selfishness on the court."

Wall finished the game much stronger than he began. Once he was done dancing and dunking in the pre-game warm-ups, Wall had to deal with his nerves. They were impossible to blanket. With a sellout crowd at Cox Pavilion waiting for him to deliver on the immense hype surrounding his selection as the No. 1 overall pick, Wall wanted to satiate them before the end of the first period.

Wall was moving so fast that he seemed out of control. He lost the ball in the lane, threw a pass off Trevor Booker's knee, hit a cameraman with another pass and got called for traveling. His first jumper was so bad, barely grazing the rim, that Wizards assistant Sam Cassell was concerned for the safety of the rim. "The first shot hit the backboard so hard I thought it was going to shatter the glass," Cassell joked.

He finally calmed down after flashing his superior speed. After a made basket, Wall got the ball, sprinted up the floor, stutter stepped, then made a layup while getting fouled. Wall pumped his fists after providing three points for his team in just three seconds. "He's got the potential to be one of the top point guards in this league, maybe the top all-around point guard at both ends, both offensively and defensively," Coach Flip Saunders said.



By Michael Lee  |  July 12, 2010; 7:45 AM ET
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Oh yeah, I'm going to enjoy watching some genuine point guard play for a change.

Posted by: glawrence007 | July 12, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

If I'm not mistaken there was a point where three centers were on the court for the Wizards: McGee, N'Diaye and Pettway. That was something to see while the GSW played three guards. I would like to see more of Pettway, as he got 4 rebounds in 5 minutes.

Posted by: rickgonz | July 12, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

I saw what I wanted to see. Wall looked confident and like the post said got comfortable after the first few minutes. I have always like players with good court vision and he may be one.

I think N'diaye (spelling?) has a chance to be serviceable.

Raymar Morgan has a strong loking frame and I'm wondering could he be that wing defender who can board a little and finish the point blank shots.

Then Javale Mcgee, we obviosly have a young and underdeveloped team with Javale being the poster child for that. I read a lot of the post here and notice that a few just don't want to hear anything involving optimism regarding Javale. The Wizard have been notoriously known as a jump shooting team that lacks aggressive bigs. I can fully understand fans that like at least Javale's shot blocking and attack the rim mentality. It's like every encouraging comment is followed by a negative rebuttal. I don't get it.


Oh yeah I get it, he's young!

Jerk!

Posted by: millineumman | July 12, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

With Wall being able to create and get to the rim--and lob alley oops to McGee--that should collapse the D and create a lot of mid-range jump shots and spot-up threes. It will be interesting to see how Nick fits into this.

Posted by: jweber1 | July 12, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Suns got josh childress so hope wizards have a plan d

Posted by: jefferu | July 12, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Javale looked like he put on a lil weight this offseason.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

You don't see a lot of guards throw the oop like Sherman Douglas used to. Where he would be dribbling in one direction, stop on a dime, quickly pivot and loft the ball between the recipient(McGee) and the rim. It is a rare skill. Nash and Kidd are others who do that. CP3 too. Not too many others and no recent Wizard have shown that ability. Most loft the oop pass from a standing position.

I still feel that with the Wall/Gil combo, Wall will find the going less congested with Gil's threat on the court. Vice versa as well as Gil will benefit from Wall's threat.

If they can get McGee to learn more than the dunk, block, and throw up off balanced jumpers, they will have some key components. I like what McGee did on the boards. I did like his hustling. Like Flip said, he wants McGee to play like the Bird-man.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Suns got josh childress so hope wizards have a plan d

Posted by: jefferu

I wanted Ryan Gomes instead of Childress anyway.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

If we sign Martin and Morgan, does that give us our minimum roster?

If not add someone to a 10 day...unless we can sign Livingstone.

Livingstone is the only player worth tying up any $$$ for this year.

Posted by: Blurred | July 12, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Wall and Javale should watch tons of film of CP3 and Tyson Chandler running the pick and roll from 2 yrs ago.

G-Mann, I agree with your McGee comments. I've been very critical of his game. He's got incredible athleticism and great coordination, so I just don't understand how, after 3 full summers, he has developed very few offensive skills. He should be able to face the defender, rise, and hit little Js all day long. Or drop step and hit a baby hook. C'mon. All I see are these bizarre double-pump, fadeaway, jumpers. I don't get it.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | July 12, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Walls looked good against who?

Wiz need a big center but everyone does.

I like Livingstone he's worth keeping.

It's EARLY

They are going to have a hard time with the big three in the east. (Boston,Orlando and Heat)

Oh i forgot they are rebuilding again lol

Posted by: SOLVBACK | July 12, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

The small forward market is now totally bare, right? So, it looks like Josh Howard, if he'll settle for a vet min., might be on this squad.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | July 12, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Nice summary with video of the Wiz summer league opener:

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/games/20100711/WASGSW/gameinfo.html

Posted by: isnadd | July 12, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

"If they can get McGee to learn more than the dunk, block, and throw up off balanced jumpers, they will have some key components. I like what McGee did on the boards. I did like his hustling. Like Flip said, he wants McGee to play like the Bird-man."


Careful with the use of the "b" word G-Man, or you'll unleash the wrath of divi3.

It would be great if McGee developed a more well-rounded offensive game, but I don't see that happening. He basically had no offensive acumen coming into the NBA after 2 years of college, and that's generally not the kind of thing a player can learn from scratch once he gets to the pros.

Like I've said before, the Wiz can live with McGee's (many) limitations, as long as he learns to play within the boundaries of those limits (a la Chris Andersen). Now doing so would likely confine him to a limited role, which is fine for a guy taken in the middle of the first round. The questions are (A) can he get it into/through his head to understand those limitations and (B) will his cheering section accept that he's not going to be the second coming of Hakeem?

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

javale mcgee looked good last night. if he would've consistently boxed out, i swear he could have finished with 20 rebounds. he just seems to lose his focus when the ball goes up. the coaches have to drill in his head that he needs to stop relying so much on his athletic ability and put his body on somebody. i do see progress, though.

Posted by: omgwthrotfl | July 12, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

The Suns traded Leandro Barbosa for Hedo Turkoglu. I guess with Stoudemire gone, they felt they needed someone to fill the role of 6' 10" pseudo-big man with a lousy attitude who only plays at one end of the court.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who watched the game have any insights on Trevor Booker's play? I think the box score had him 4 of 4 from the field with 3 rebounds in substantial minutes. Which suggests he didn't try to create his own shot and wasn't a bear on the boards.

Posted by: BPupp | July 12, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"It's definitely lovely," McGee said of Wall's ball distribution. "He's looking for passes and he's looking for his own, so it's even. It's no selfishness on the court."

This speaks volumes to me.

I'd like to see Morgan and Javale bulkier cause it would help them around the basket. Wings have to realize they are as important on the boards as the Bigs are. And has Javale developed one go-to move yet? He needs one bread and butter scoring move.

Nice to see them running for a change

Posted by: kahlua87 | July 12, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

According to bullets forever blog on trvor booker:

Trevor Booker struggled a lot early on trying to find his niche. I think he wasn't quite sure whether to play more inside or hang on the perimeter. However, he got it going a lot more in the fourth quarter and finished with a respectable eight points and seven rebounds. He also had a vicious swat in the fourth quarter that had press row buzzing.

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

I still say the Wiz should have pursued Mike Beasley more than they did.

Posted by: washwizkids | July 12, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Can we stop the D-Rose comparisons to John Wall.

The entire game last night I was thinking that Wall's game is more in tune with Rod Strickland.

Wall is Strickland with more game. Bring on that 8th Seed BABY!

Posted by: maxer18 | July 12, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

JaVale doesn't have "many" limitations Kal. In fact he's the most talented Wizards/Bullets center since Pervis Ellison 20 years ago(who was probably more of a 4 but played 5).

Here's the only two knocks on the guy:

fitness
on the ball post defense

Lost in the numbers last night: McGee only had 1 foul. If he stays down on pump fakes and keeps working on his fitness issues dude will be 5 times better than Birdman.

Posted by: elfreako | July 12, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

So how long will EG and his apologists milk the "rebuilding" excuse for?
EG may not be a good GM but he is definitely a shrewd businessman. He is using "potential", "rebuilding"... to lower expectations and extend his stay as long as possible. And when his team of tweeners flop in a few years, he can do like some on here and use the word "hindsight" then.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | July 12, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

JaVale is very young and still has a lot of upside. Once he grows into that frame and hits the bench and military press a bit more he will be more a force. He did look a bit bulkier.

Posted by: FedorEm | July 12, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I didn't watch the game but I like what am reading. Sounds like a guy who knows and enjoys what a PG is supposed to do.

Still it's the summer league.

Posted by: tundey | July 12, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

He wasn't throwing oops to Brendan Haywood.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"JaVale doesn't have "many" limitations Kal. In fact he's the most talented Wizards/Bullets center since Pervis Ellison 20 years ago(who was probably more of a 4 but played 5)."

Considering the long line of scrubs the Bullets/Wiz have trotted out since then, that's the definition of damning with faint praise.

As for this list of limitations . . . you forget a few:

Court awareness/positioning
Decision making
Shooting touch
Shot selection
On-court focus

The notion that all of his problems can be fixed by more time in the weight room is wishful thinking. His biggest problems aren't physical, they're mental/attitudinal. If he corrects those his effectiveness will improve considerably, even if he never gains another pound. That's what I mean by learning to play within his limitations.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Pay absolutely no attention to the JaVale McGee haters, faithful.

If the Wizards were to put McGee on the trading block, there isn't a SINGLE general manager who would not be dialing Ernest Grunfeld's number. Why? The simple truth is that there is not another young center in the league who has McGee's rare combination of length, athleticism, and upside. Not one. He's now a legitimate 250 lbs, over 7' tall without shoes and can easily carry another 15-20 lbs on his frame while not losing any agility. The physical tools are there for him to become an outstanding center in this league and I have no doubt that the mental part of the game will come in time. Folks, we have a DIAMOND in the rough with McGee. Rest assured he will be kept in the fold for many years to come to allow him to reach his full potential.

Keep mind we still haven't seen the European gem who goes by the name of Kevin Seraphin, also handpicked by our Ernest Grunfeld.

Haters, the Wizards bandwagon can always accommodate more passengers, but it would look better on the surface of things if you were to climb aboard now. Don't want to be accused of being frontrunners, do you?

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | July 12, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"So how long will EG and his apologists milk the "rebuilding" excuse for?
EG may not be a good GM but he is definitely a shrewd businessman. He is using "potential", "rebuilding"... to lower expectations and extend his stay as long as possible. And when his team of tweeners flop in a few years, he can do like some on here and use the word "hindsight" then.Posted by: Utilityman1"

So you don't think the Wiz are rebuilding? This is a finished product?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse


javale mcgee looked good last night. if he would've consistently boxed out, i swear he could have finished with 20 rebounds. he just seems to lose his focus when the ball goes up. the coaches have to drill in his head that he needs to stop relying so much on his athletic ability and put his body on somebody. i do see progress, though.

Posted by: omgwthrotfl | July 12, 2010 10:00 AM

Best observation about Mcgee last night so far, agree 100%

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

JaVale doesn't have "many" limitations Kal. In fact he's the most talented Wizards/Bullets center since Pervis Ellison 20 years ago(who was probably more of a 4 but played 5).

McGee actually does have limitations. He's not even better than Haywood right now. I swear McGee just wants to blocks shots and get dunks. He doesn't even ATTEMPT to set picks. It's go stand next to the PG and roll to the basket for the lob...hanging the PG out to dry.

Let alone on shots leaking out when he should be rebounding. Noway a C should be getting an outlet pass for a dunk.

The boy needs fundamentals. And could've learned that sometimes the best play...is the one that nobody notices or sees. NOT the highlight.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Wall to McGee reminds me exactly of the CP3 to Chandler combo early on with the Hornets (before injuries beset Chandler)

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I would venture that Mcgee would be the most sought after player on the wizards roster (aside from Wall) if there was another firesale. Trying to limit him into being Birdman 2.0 is really setting the bar too low for a kid with that much going on for him.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I would venture that Mcgee would be the most sought after player on the wizards roster (aside from Wall) if there was another firesale. Trying to limit him into being Birdman 2.0 is really setting the bar too low for a kid with that much going on for him.

I agree. People would love to get McGee. I think Birdman is a good place to set the bar...for now. Baby steps. I'm hoping he can max out at a Camby level.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"He basically had no offensive acumen coming into the NBA after 2 years of college, and that's generally not the kind of thing a player can learn from scratch once he gets to the pros."

You're going to be disappointed in Seraphin if you think Mcgee was too raw to ever develop a legit game.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

How about McGee aspiring to become a longer taller Stoudemire

Posted by: jefferu | July 12, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"Can we stop the D-Rose comparisons to John Wall.The entire game last night I was thinking that Wall's game is more in tune with Rod Strickland.Wall is Strickland with more game. Bring on that 8th Seed BABY!Posted by: maxer18"

Somebody here compared him to Strickland the other day. He played what, 18 seasons? 19? for nine different teams, some of them more than once? So I guess the question would have to be, Strickland at what point in his career?

He wasn't much of a 3 point shooter, either. Better than Rose, at least. We'll have to see how Wall does.

I'm sure some of the D-Rose comparisons come from Rose and Wall having been coached by Calipari. The consensus is that Rose came into the NBA a more skilled but less athletic player. Took Derrick much of his first season to hit his stride, but he's been improving every season since.

One thing I'm looking for in these practice games: can Wall beat his man off the dribble? That'll turn out to be his main physical advantage. He won't be the team's leading scorer, but he should be able to get a basket when it's most needed -- and that's invaluable.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

So how long will EG and his apologists milk the "rebuilding" excuse for?
EG may not be a good GM but he is definitely a shrewd businessman. He is using "potential", "rebuilding"... to lower expectations and extend his stay as long as possible. And when his team of tweeners flop in a few years, he can do like some on here and use the word "hindsight" then.

SO I assume the suggestion would be to go splurge on free agents and convince fans we are a contender or are one player away like the Redskins are doing. Its clear we are rebuilding seeing as though half our team was traded away last year and the only reason the other half was not was because we could not unload them. I was very skeptical of EG after this past draft but it is clear he is surrounding John Wall with the right players. Wall is the future of this franchise and he needs bangers and guys who fly all over the place to play with. John Wall is so fast defenders are ocnstantly out of place giving guys like McGee an oppurtunity around the rim. Ted has a long term vision to where we are title contenders not a team looking to sneak in year after year only to lose in the first round. I would surely take this over what the dredskins do year after year mortgaging a future for older players who may be serviceable for a few years

Posted by: dagr8dwalo | July 12, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I agree. People would love to get McGee. I think Birdman is a good place to set the bar...for now. Baby steps. I'm hoping he can max out at a Camby level.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 11:32 AM

I think Javale can avg 15pts/night by just playing off AB and letting Wall find him for easy buckets. Also, by the time he is 25 he might have the most dominant body in the league....we really have to keep this kid around and give him the best possible chance to succeed. What else is a rebuild for afterall

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

You're going to be disappointed in Seraphin if you think Mcgee was too raw to ever develop a legit game.

I can deal with someone that's raw...if he actually WANTS to smack someone in the mouth.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

John Wall new nickname should be Apple Turnovers.... LOL!

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | July 12, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

And can someone please tell me why the Wizard didn't get rid of Nick Young yet? This guy is playing in his 4th summer league, which has to be a record.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | July 12, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

You're going to be disappointed in Seraphin if you think Mcgee was too raw to ever develop a legit game."

I'd only be disappointed in him if I expected him to become a go-to scorer. I don't. Just like I don't expect it of McGee.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

When you see that McGee had ball playing parents(college/WNBA moms and college/overseas ball father I think), it is disappointing that he is behind the curve mentally, especially since he is 7ft and sooooooo athletic. His senior year I heard of only 1 seven footer coming out of high school, Greg Oden. Why was he so far under the radar? It was like he came from outer space.

I wonder if he is behind the curve mentally(basketball aside).

When I mentioned the Birdman label that flip said, I don't think Flip meant it as a ceiling, I think he meant it as a style of play. Above the rim, hustle guy, intimidator, at least until his game skill catches up with his athletically.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I think Javale can avg 15pts/night by just playing off AB and letting Wall find him for easy buckets. Also, by the time he is 25 he might have the most dominant body in the league....we really have to keep this kid around and give him the best possible chance to succeed. What else is a rebuild for afterall

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Javale's impact has to be on defense and on the boards. you're right. he can sleepwalk into 15 pts just off lobs and putbacks. His value is gonna be clearing the boards and starting the break. He's gota focus on defensive positioning. Summer league is all about the oohs and aahs, but Sam Cassell has to get on this kid about leaking out on the break for easy dunks. Allowing that now, will only handicap him come time to play for Flip, cuz he ain't going for that at all. Gil,AB,Wall and Thornton are gonna try to do enough scoring for erybody. Slim just needs to focus on getting better defending 1 on 1, and hitting tha boards.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | July 12, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

And Blatche played in 4 summer leagues too...yet he was a beast when he got PT end of last year

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"When I mentioned the Birdman label that flip said, I don't think Flip meant it as a ceiling, I think he meant it as a style of play. Above the rim, hustle guy, intimidator, at least until his game skill catches up with his athletically."

Exactly. It's amazing how hard that basic concept is for some people to grasp. (Actually, I'm pretty sure they do grasp it, but pretending that they don't just makes it easier to stick to their standard script.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse


If the Wizards were to put McGee on the trading block, there isn't a SINGLE general manager who would not be dialing Ernest Grunfeld's number. Why? The simple truth is that there is not another young center in the league who has McGee's rare combination of length, athleticism, and upside. Not one. He's now a legitimate 250 lbs, over 7' tall without shoes and can easily carry another 15-20 lbs on his frame while not losing any agility. The physical tools are there for him to become an outstanding center in this league and I have no doubt that the mental part of the game will come in time. Folks, we have a DIAMOND in the rough with McGee.

Posted by: melodious_thunk

music to my ears, melodious! when he was drafted everybody said he was raw, so i'm not sure why so many people seemingly expected double-doubles right out the box. he's gotta crawl before he can walk.

Posted by: omgwthrotfl | July 12, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that from a physical maturity standpoint, McGee's still a pup. The kid's LITERALLY still growing -- over an inch this summer. Physically (forget age or years in the NBA), he's usually the youngest player on the court. He's like a 7 ft, 16 year old pubescent teenager still growing his peach fuzz beard while playing against freakishly strong and athletic grown men. For the most part, he's held it down pretty well. Having a young, raw 7'1" shot blocking dunk machine is not a bad thing. The nasty will come with minutes and physical maturity.


Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | July 12, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Question...why are the wizards sleeping on EVERY small forward prospect....even the sleeper types who probably won't command a huge contract (a la Dorrell Wright)...I hope they don't think Cartier Martin is the answer...he was alright end of last year but he is nothing more then a rotational player...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm far more excited about this franchise than I am the Redskins. The Redskins have no concept of building a title team. Ted on the other hand Ted has displayed exceptional foresight

Posted by: dagr8dwalo | July 12, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Except he's not 16, he's going on 23, with two years of experience playing against these grown men. NBA history is full of guys with great physical attributes who never amount to much because they fail to wrap their heads around the game. All of the raving about his length and leap is exactly the kind of stuff he doesn't need to be filling his head with. Doesn't matter how much bigger his body gets if his brain doesn't expand.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

what do you see from Dorell Wright that you don't see in Cartier? i honestly think cartier may be the better player, definitely the better shooter. Dorell was drafted on potential and kept around because of his upside, not his game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding,athleticism, three point shooting, defense and size @ the 3 spot...we definitely need those attributes in this division now...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Suns got josh childress so hope wizards have a plan d

Posted by: jefferu

They're signing him for less than Outlaw got (by $1M) which doesn't make sense to me, but whatever works I guess. Suns also get Turkoglu to 'replace' Amar'e? Is it my imagination or did they just get softer? Not sure that's the direction they should be heading. Never a good sign when their presumptive new GM's first moves are to sign two of his (former) clients.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Also, I used Dorrell Wright as an example. I just mean we need to pursue another player @ the 3 spot to compete with Thorton (not exactly Wright, he is my preference but there are other players out there).

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding,athleticism, three point shooting, defense and size @ the 3 spot...we definitely need those attributes in this division now...

Posted by: merajc86

josh howard was a perfect fit before his injury. guess we'll be relying on jianlian (for a few minutes per game at least)to give us 4 out 5 attributes you listed.

Posted by: omgwthrotfl | July 12, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Some of you guys (kalo_rama & SDMDTSU)are stuck in the 20th century when you critique McGee on "fundamentals".

You miss the days of Kevin Duckworth clogging the middle?

Do you long for the memories of Big Gheorge getting beat down the floor by 2nd rate centers in the 2nd half?

Why must the center do ALL the dirty work? It's possible for a hard-working PF to absorb some of those duties to free him up to do what he does best.

This isn't excusing his lack of focus at times but even at his current focus level he trumps Haywood's Overall productivity. That alone should make Wiz fans excited for the future.

Posted by: elfreako | July 12, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter how much bigger his body gets if his brain doesn't expand.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 12:00 PM

He's already playing like your beloved Birdman...so why so harsh on the kid? It seems like on one hand you claim not to expect him to develop that much, but then on the other you rail him for not having a sound post game etc etc. Not sure if you noticed last night, but he actually does hit some of those short Js he takes. And he basically stayed on his feet last night, only picked up one foul, and it wasnt on the potential 4pt play.

Nobody is saying that a summer league game means he's arrived, but he played fairly well, looks bigger/stronger, and appeared to have good wind....all those are positives.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

WOW... he is quick, definitely reminds me of Rajon Rondo but has a smoother shot from the outside & he can throw it down!

If Gilbert can learn to play off Wall & they don't trade him before the season, which I still think might happen... that could be one mean back court. He has to learn to move without the ball... when the defense collapses on Wall, he'll get his.

Posted by: tony325 | July 12, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding,athleticism, three point shooting, defense and size @ the 3 spot...we definitely need those attributes in this division now...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding: 3.7 per game
3pt shooting: 34% career
Defense: .6 spg .6bpg
Size:6'9" 206

has only played 66+ games twice in 6 seasons.
Has never played 82 gamse in a season

I'm not impressed. People cry bloody murder when tha wiz get a guy like Yi who avg'd 12 and 7 last season, but then clamor for clowns like Dorell Wright. Put down the Xbox controller and walk into the real world Dorell Wright cannot play.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Why can't a 7ft be athletic AND fundamentally sound, especially if his parents played the sport at a high-level?

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

"It seems like on one hand you claim not to expect him to develop that much, but then on the other you rail him for not having a sound post game etc etc."

As usual, what you claim I say has no resemblance to what I've actually said.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Last year in only 20 mins a game:

46% FG
39% 3 point shooting
88.4% FT shooting
3.3 rebs
.4 blocks
7.1 points

not terrible, not great...however this is the thing with him:

He was coming off an ACL injury the prior year. Most people says it takes two years to recover from that. I expect a dramatic improvement for him. Yi cannot play 3. He will get abused because he is not quick enough. He also shot 40% last year. Not great either...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

And can someone please tell me why the Wizard didn't get rid of Nick Young yet? This guy is playing in his 4th summer league, which has to be a record.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | July 12, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

To my understanding...he asked to play so that he could have more time on the court to develop some chemistry with Wall. Why have something bad to say about a player trying to make himself better????

To tell you the truth....if it was my team I would requested that the whole team be there....I doubt that the league would've allowed it though!!

Posted by: chicoexcell | July 12, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"Why must the center do ALL the dirty work? It's possible for a hard-working PF to absorb some of those duties to free him up to do what he does best."

That'd be great if the Wiz had a hard-working, dirty work PF. But they've got Andray Blatche.

As for fundamentals . . . it depends on which ones you're talking about. I would have no problem with his lack of offensive skills if he didn't make a habit of trying to make plays on offense that requires him to have those skills. If he concentrated on scoring off hustle and rebounds and knocked off trying to post up or take guys off the dribble, I'd consider that a huge positive step. But until that happens, it's perfectly legit to criticize his inability to execute plays that he inexplicably keeps trying and failing to execute. Just like it was legit to criticize Haywood jacking up ugly jump hooks or Blatche for dribbling the ball off his foot while driving into traffic.

Being able to set picks and making proper reads on defensive rotations, however, shouldn't be elective skills for an NBA caliber C, esp. one with aspirations of being a starter.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Why should we not expect McGee to have a sound post game defensively? Stay between your man and the basket. Be aware of your teammates getting beat off the dribble and intimidate. Fake the block try to make them off-balance and miss sometimes. Don't jump for every pump fake. Not get caught out of position.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

hitch yer wagon to Dorell Wright if you want to. That guy's been a LOSER down in MIA since he was drafted. He's been coming off of some injury every year he's been in the league. And he's not a starter, he's a bench player. We need to bring in someone to start, unless that's Al Thornton's spot.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Why should we not expect McGee to have a sound post game defensively? Stay between your man and the basket. Be aware of your teammates getting beat off the dribble and intimidate. Fake the block try to make them off-balance and miss sometimes. Don't jump for every pump fake. Not get caught out of position.


Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

hate to say it........homie should look at some tapes of Brenda tha Defenda keeping folks outta tha lane. She wasn't half the athlete Javale is, but ole girl did hold it down.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Some of you guys (kalo_rama & SDMDTSU)are stuck in the 20th century when you critique McGee on "fundamentals".

You miss the days of Kevin Duckworth clogging the middle?

Do you long for the memories of Big Gheorge getting beat down the floor by 2nd rate centers in the 2nd half?

Why must the center do ALL the dirty work? It's possible for a hard-working PF to absorb some of those duties to free him up to do what he does best.

This isn't excusing his lack of focus at times but even at his current focus level he trumps Haywood's Overall productivity. That alone should make Wiz fans excited for the future.

Posted by: elfreako | July 12, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Who said anything about Duckworth or Gheorghe? It's not a size issue. I just said I hope he can become Camby like...you know...play to his strenghts.

Who said anything about dirty work? I just want him to do the right thing...instead of screwing up while trying to do something spectacular.

Someone else mentioned him leaking out for easy dunks...if you don't see the problem with that...you're C abandoning the boards to try to get a dunk? You're CLEARLY remedial.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I think Javale can avg 15pts/night by just playing off AB and letting Wall find him for easy buckets. Also, by the time he is 25 he might have the most dominant body in the league....we really have to keep this kid around and give him the best possible chance to succeed. What else is a rebuild for afterall

Posted by: divi3

They definitely should keep the kid around and give him the best chance to succeed. But it's important to keep it in perspective. In two or three years, LeBron will still have the most dominant body in the NBA. Unless JaVale seriously gets stronger, Dwight Howard will still be a close second to LeBron.

It's also important to note that even if JaVale tries are hard as he can, he may never fill out more than has right now. Or his arms might and his legs don't. After a certain point, it's not guaranteed. Without even going into guys like Manute and Shaun Bradley, athletic 7 footers like Camby and Tyson Chandler have improved their bodies, but never developed into powerful physical specimens. Which is not to say that JaVale has to do that either to be successful. He has enough tools right now to be an effective player and a good player, once he learns to maximize his advantages and compensate for his weaknesses, like all players have to.

Ultimately I agree with what Kal said, that the biggest area he needs to improve on is his mentality / focus. He definitely enjoys playing, which is good, but I haven't quite seen that professionalism kick in yet. He has and can continue to coast on his natural gifts and stay in the league a long time. But obviously we are all hoping for more than that. Maybe getting the opportunity to play with someone like Wall, who has fun but is clearly already a pro, will help JaVale make that turn.

I know last night was all about Wall's debut, but I would like to see them run more halfcourt sets where they get the ball to McGee, Booker, and Ndiaye on the low box and see what they can do. It will undoubtedly look a bit ugly, but there's nothing wrong with that in Summer League.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Yi will play plenty at 3 I think, the majority of his points come from 15-25ft jumpers and he grabs lots of long rebounds.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Why waste money cap space and a roster spot on a gut like Wright who has a myriad of issues to include injury problems.

This is not a playoff team no where close to one this is a team in the rebuilding process. Patience is a virtue

Posted by: dagr8dwalo | July 12, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Is McGee a threat with his passing?

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

He is a loser because....of injures? He is one of those kids that jumped out of high school into the NBA. He has decent set of offensive skills and a GOOD DEFENDER. He also rebounds pretty well and is a pretty good athlete. He is one of those low risk high reward type of players...Those are the type of players we are looking for to run with Wall...but it's a moot point anywho since he signed with Golden State (And like my previous comment said, I am not saying Dorrell Wright, but a similar type of player...at least better then Cartier Martin)

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Lack of offensive skills? What game are you watching kalo_rama?!?

JaVale is arguabley the most creative scoring big on the Wizards, including Blatche. That's never been a problem. The issue is refining his athleticism to make him a more consistent nightly force.

That top of the key scoop to the hole move was beautiful. How many 7 footers can do that? Pau Gasol and JaVale McGee.

McGee didn't get whistled for any moving screens last night so he must've done OK. Sometimes you guys project your overall displeasure with the team onto JaVale.

He's had 3 coaches in his first 2 seasons so I'm willing to wait on judging him until he's had a normal, no coach firing, no guns in the locker room season.

Posted by: elfreako | July 12, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Arenas & Wall will make a tremendous tandem. Unfortunately, the owner, the GM & coach are the only ones with savvy enough to recognize this. The media with is never-forgiving attitude will look like numb skulls once the tandem blitz other backcourts with their speed, skill and scoring. Get over it, and accept it, Arenas & Wall will get it done together. However a lot depends on whether McGee can defensive rebound as his is capable of. Oh, yeah, don't forget Blatche, who is primed for a career year as well. Thank you Ted, Ernie, and Flip for giving Gil a chance to prove he is worth his salt. Go Wizards!!!

Posted by: esmith4 | July 12, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I definitely want to see more Booker in the next game, he was kinda invisible. No big deal in the first summer league game, but he should be able to show off some skills at this level of competition

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Lack of offensive skills? What game are you watching kalo_rama?!?

JaVale is arguabley the most creative scoring big on the Wizards, including Blatche. That's never been a problem. The issue is refining his athleticism to make him a more consistent nightly force.

That top of the key scoop to the hole move was beautiful. How many 7 footers can do that? Pau Gasol and JaVale McGee.

McGee didn't get whistled for any moving screens last night so he must've done OK. Sometimes you guys project your overall displeasure with the team onto JaVale.

He's had 3 coaches in his first 2 seasons so I'm willing to wait on judging him until he's had a normal, no coach firing, no guns in the locker room season.


Is that you Mrs. McGee?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"JaVale is arguabley the most creative scoring big on the Wizards, including Blatche. "

He's very creative in how he throws down alley-oop dunks. If this were Olympic figure skating, he'd always get extra points for style and execution.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

McGee has two big issues (in my eyes):

falling for pump fakes

and ability to hold his position in post up situations

He has other issues too but when he corrects those two, he he will be a pretty reliable center.

He is only 23 year years old and producing better then most Cs in the NBA. With experience, I think he can be pretty dominant on both ends of the court.

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

So you don't think the Wiz are rebuilding? This is a finished product?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Of course not but EG is using the situation to his advantage. This will probably be the 3rd year this team will lose alot of games but this time EG has an excuse. Rebuilding isn't a magic word and isn't necessarily synonymous of success. Some rebuildings are done right and many are done wrong and with EG at the helm, I'll let you take a wild guess as to how this is going to end...

Posted by: Utilityman1 | July 12, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Except he's not 16, he's going on 23, with two years of experience playing against these grown men. NBA history is full of guys with great physical attributes who never amount to much because they fail to wrap their heads around the game.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

He's 23, not 28. He's younger than some of this year's lottery picks. And big men tend to take a while to develop. Also, not every player is obligated to turn into an elite player. Not sure why you hole Javale to such a high standard. He was a #18 pick, he seems to have a good attitude, and he's an enormous athlete. The book is hardly closed on him, and even if this is as good as he gets, he's still not a bust.

Posted by: IrenePollin | July 12, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"That top of the key scoop to the hole move was beautiful. How many 7 footers can do that?"

That move is a keeper, he's pulled it off pretty consistently regardless of who he's facing. Not saying we should be basing our offense around it...but it does work for him.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

In terms of SF for the Wiz, I'm sure they're looking at bringing in one vet wing, but I also wouldn't be surprised if both Martin and Morgan made the roster.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The rebuilding starts with John Wall. Does Grunfeld get credit for him?

A lot Grunfeld's success will depend on Blatche and McGee. Will Yi prove to be a good pickup? He is worth the gamble. All the rest right now are role-players. I didn't name Gil because who knows what the teams plans for Gil this year, so in 2 years who knows.

If we don't make the playoffs, what will the ping pong ball bring?

I do think Ernie did a nice job picking up players with potential (Yi, Seraphin, Booker) while others overpaid. Thus, the Wizards should be in decent cap-shape too.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"He's 23, not 28."

Javale wont turn 23 until January. Ridiculous upside indeed.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

"Also, not every player is obligated to turn into an elite player. "

Don't tell me. Tell the geniuses saying he'll be "dominant" and calling him the "best C the team's had in 20 years!" I'm the guy saying he should concentrate on being a hustle/rebound/energy/complementary scoring player. Not sure how you get expectations of "elitism" out of any of that.

"The book is hardly closed on him, and even if this is as good as he gets, he's still not a bust."

Did I say he was? nope. So basically you're talking a whole bunch of nothing there.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"Of course not but EG is using the situation to his advantage. This will probably be the 3rd year this team will lose alot of games but this time EG has an excuse. Rebuilding isn't a magic word and isn't necessarily synonymous of success. Some rebuildings are done right and many are done wrong and with EG at the helm, I'll let you take a wild guess as to how this is going to end...Posted by: Utilityman1"

OK here's my wild guess: if the Wiz play better than expected, you'll insist it's in spite of Ernie Grunfeld, and if they struggle, you'll say it's because of him.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"Can we stop the D-Rose comparisons to John Wall.The entire game last night I was thinking that Wall's game is more in tune with Rod Strickland.Wall is Strickland with more game. Bring on that 8th Seed BABY!Posted by: maxer18"

Somebody here compared him to Strickland the other day. He played what, 18 seasons? 19? for nine different teams, some of them more than once? So I guess the question would have to be, Strickland at what point in his career?
Posted by: Samson151

Not sure I get the Strickland comparison. He was a good playmaker, to be sure, but I always remember him as more of a herky-jerky, change speeds, play-the-angles type, not a hyper-athletic player like Wall. Wall is already a better shooter. The one truly outstanding thing (maybe two) that I remember about Strick was his uncanny ability to dribble through traffic. And then he'd be able to finish even though he wasn't an above-the-rim kind of player.

Plus if anyone sees Wall eating a hot dog on the bench, they should slap him immediately. Don't even let him get to the throwing up in a towel part.

In comparison to Rose, I think Rose is a more natural scorer (though it's splitting hairs) and Wall is a more natural playmaker/passer (though Rose has some skills, too).

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

McGee is 23. How long has he been playing basketball? He is not some non-american who played soccer as his first love.

A lot of players are more sound at 23 than McGee is.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 12, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"A lot Grunfeld's success will depend on Blatche and McGee."

My tune for awhile has been that with Wall, AB, and Mcgee we may be looking at the core that takes this team as far as it's going to go. Avg age...21, and all under good contracts. As much as it galls some, the best possible scenario is that Blatche is where we have to spend our $$$ in a few years rather than on someone else's FA.

At any rate, getting those 3 on the same page and straight ballin together is where it's at for the franchise....quickest path to what we want.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

100% in agreement...hope we don't have to over pay for Blatche next year...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

He is a loser because....of injures? He is one of those kids that jumped out of high school into the NBA. He has decent set of offensive skills and a GOOD DEFENDER. He also rebounds pretty well and is a pretty good athlete. He is one of those low risk high reward type of players...Those are the type of players we are looking for to run with Wall...but it's a moot point anywho since he signed with Golden State (And like my previous comment said, I am not saying Dorrell Wright, but a similar type of player...at least better then Cartier Martin)

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse


he's a LOSER because he's an avg to below avg player in the NBA right now. Maybe he plays more this year and shows out to be the player you think he is, but his inability to stay on the court for the majority of his 6 year career leaves the casual observer very little to go off. Someone who avidly watches Miami might say that his contributions have been minimal. I wanna know what he does that classifies him as a good defender. i mean the guy avgs 20 mins a game and doesn't start. How much does coach Spolestra have this guy checking quality 3s? is he a real on the ball stopper? he fails to avg 1 blk or stl per game so how is his defense quantilfied?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I watched a few games of him over the past few years, but here is a recent scouting report on him (per ESPN Insider)...

Scouting report: A tweener whom the Heat have been weirdly reluctant to commit to as a rotation player, Wright is an excellent rebounder for a wing and a pretty good midrange jump shooter. He depends on the shot too much, though, and should instead use his athleticism to snag easier attempts closer to the basket. Plus, the fact that he doesn't have 3-point range means the percentages don't work in his favor.

Wright has good size and blocks shots, and he's a solid one-on-one defender against small forwards. With his rebounding and shot blocking, he can switch to a small-ball 4 as long he's not matched up against a physical opponent.

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Javale McGee is 22 and won't be 23 until next year.

Some people just don't recognize what they have in a player until he goes to play for another team or until the very second he becomes a 20/10 player. I think a lot of people on this blog are like that. Other than drafting John Wall, JaVale McGee will become the best thing Grunfeld has done here. Better than signing Arenas, better than drafting Blatche.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 12, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

kalo_rama

McGee is Tyson Chandler, potential to be good with a good point guard. Like Chandler was with Chris Paul. A great point guard is a power fowards best friend. Ask Carl Malone.

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

And can someone please tell me why the Wizard didn't get rid of Nick Young yet? This guy is playing in his 4th summer league, which has to be a record.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1

Its called depth. What happens when you get rid of Young and Wall sprains his ankle. Fire the GM for getting rid of Nick Young too fast right? There is a reason we are just sports blogers and not working for an NBA team as coaches or GM's my friend.

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

There are still a few servicable small forwards out there for a low price. Jarvis Hayes can be brought back. Cartier Martin showed some promise at the end of last season and is on the roster. Adam Morrison?
Al Harrington might still be available in a months time. Bobby Simmons?

Posted by: Gusdaberean1 | July 12, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Same comparison I made earlier...CP3 and Chandler (before knee injuries) is most comparable to McGee and Wall

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Some people just don't recognize what they have in a player until he goes to play for another team or until the very second he becomes a 20/10 player. I think a lot of people on this blog are like that. Other than drafting John Wall, JaVale McGee will become the best thing Grunfeld has done here. Better than signing Arenas, better than drafting Blatche.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 12, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

This is where the term "bust" comes from. You people are expected way too much from him. How many players averaged 20/10 last year? Without looking I'm guess I can count them on one hand.

Then when he doesn't get there...he's a bust.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

100% in agreement...hope we don't have to over pay for Blatche next year...

Posted by: merajc86 |

Its all how you look at it. Dont we want players like AB and GA to have good enough years that someone else would want them? I guess I would welcome that kind of delima if they came as a result of each players success this season. I want GA to have such a good season that other teams will be willing to trade or AB has the type of year that leads to him getting good FA offers. That means they both played their butts off for us.

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Having watched last night's game a couple thoughts:

1) John Wall is the real deal. Clearly the fastest guy on the court. You could tell he was pretty nervous, hence the 8 turnovers he got...But nonetheless, you could tell once he gets his nerves in check, he'll be unstoppable. There was no one on the warriors that could stay in front of Wall. I'm convinced, if John Wall decides to get to the basket, there's no one that can stop him. Plus he finishes well, and he's a great free throw shooter. So he'll either get the and 1, or make his free throws.

2) Trevor Booker is going to be GREAT and going to be a fan favorite. Didn't like the pick at first, but after watching him, he's going to be a stud. He was all over the court with his hussle and defense. On a lot of isolation plays between him and his man, he was always in the face of his man and was able to play great on ball defense. Plus, you can tell he's strong...a player stupidly tried to back booker down... it was a sad picture, booker didn't move an inch and almost looked as though he didn't even know the player was trying to post him. Plus Booker gets up and down the court FAST...and he's got HOPS...there was one play where he zoomed straight down the court and converted on an alley-oop...he made it look easy.

You heard it here first, Booker (and not Javale) is going to be to us what Chris Anderson is to Denver.

3) Javale got a LOT Bigger. You can tell he definitely committed to working out and his body is starting to fill in nicely. I distincely recall one game last year where he was trying to guard shaq...IT was another sad sight. It looked like a 30lb 5 year old playing bball with his 150lb 16 year old brother. But now...he's moved on to being a 110lb 12 year old level. A LOT BETTER, but still work needs to be done.

Javale is going to be realllyyy good this year if he can keep his conditioning. Just from last night, I noticed a lot of times he was on his knees and huffing and puffing. You can tell...everythign he does, he does it ABOVE the rim. I have full confidence that if he improves his stamina to get to the 35-40 minute level, while playing off wall and gilbert, he can average 15 pts, 10-12 rebounds, 3-4 blocks, and 60%+ FG. Which will be pretty stellar for a kid his age.

4) Ramar (sp?) Morgan has the ability to be the EXACT person we need at our 3 spot. He's athletic enough to eventually morph into our shut down defensive ace, he has a great bball IQ (coached by Izzo), knows how to play defense, he can shoot 3s, and he can finish in transition. Plus he knows his role, and plays within the confines of the offense and doesn't need the ball to score. Thus perfect for ball dominating gil and wall and lesser extent...blatche.

Posted by: Havemercyplz | July 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Haha, I mean I hope we get him @ a steal ( like Rondo is now for Boston)...but yeah, again, I agree

Posted by: merajc86 | July 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Ask Carl Malone.

Posted by: ged0386 | July 12, 2010 1:34 PM

Who the hell is Carl Malone? LOL

Want more talking and leadership? When out of the game, Wall placed himself toward the front of the bench, talking with assistant coach Ryan Saunders, talking to his teammates, yelling out instructions toward the floor. Over the course of the game, you're looking at 30 minutes if you total the amount of time Wall spent talking with Sam Cassell, who is heading the summer league coaching staff for the Wizards. OK, that might be an exaggeration, but you get the point, Sam I Am is always in Wall's ear, and Wall is always listening.

"Just listening to him is going to be a great experience because he's been in this league a long time and he's a vet," Wall said after the game.

And Wizards fans, if you're looking for a points leader to keep the uber-talented yet in need of direction JaVale McGee in check, Wall is your man. Late in the game, when Frenchman Kim Tillie outpositioned McGee for an offensive rebound, Wall got on his older (by about two years and seven months) teammate to not lose focus on the defensive boards, an area Flip Saunders has been preaching at McGee to improve upon.

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-100712/daily-dime

Posted by: anacostia85 | July 12, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

If Nick's on the roster, I kinda hope he gets some time next to Wall. He's actually a pretty good outside shooter, and very hard to block. Now if he could just learn to take the open jumper rather than shaking and baking...maybe he thinks he's like the Sundance Kid: "I'm better when I move..."

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse


Nobody said McGee has to average 20/10 or he's a bust. If he can be a solid starter he will have more than lived up to his draft status. What he's missing now is court awareness, the very thing that he MUST have to see extended minutes.

Posted by: harrybalz | July 12, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Spending money a a FA SF doesn't make much sense right now. The SG/SF/swing spot is the most talent rich one in the draft. Unless the Wizards can get a can't-miss young talent at a discount price on the FA market, they'd do just as well to simply fill the slot with short-term placeholders and look at finding someone in the draft (or a cap trade) who offers a more long-term solution.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I am willing to bet that Nick Young will be starting at SF this year. He was on some sports talk show (Sports Junkies?) last week and mentioned that the coaches wanted him to play some SF this year. So he's probably playing summer league to get some extra game time in at the new position as well as developing timing with Wall.

Posted by: bigskells | July 12, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

maybe he thinks he's like the Sundance Kid: "I'm better when I move..."

Posted by: Samson151

Love that movie, and I keep finding a variety of uses for that exact line.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I also often go to "Well, hell, the fall will probably kill ya."

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Havemercyplz | July 12, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I fux wit Raymar too

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 12, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

This discussion made me wonder again about McGee's jump shot. When he first came out of college, I remember thinking, "that's a nice release, good arc, he could get that shot off in traffic." But that hope hasn't been realized. Maybe it's that he's off-balance when he shoots. Or has fallen in love with the fall-away, like so many kids do, to their detriment.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Now with Trevor Booker, I'm not as impressed with the form on his jumpshot form, but he seems to be one of those quick-jumping types that gets an edge on the defender inside. That's a Paul Millsap trait. Very helpful to an average-size player.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Folks, might I remind you that this is merely ONE preseason game. Lets stop getting all antsy about turnovers. 90% of the guys on this Vegas roster who are watching great passes sail over their heads won't make the opening night roster. I also liked the fact that most of Wall's TO's were self-inflicted, which means they're easily correctable. It's not like he was getting D'd up. Once the game slows down a bit and he has a better understanding of his speed, the TO's won't be a concern.

This guy's ceiling is scary, and I'm happy he's ours. Anyone who wants to critique just for the sake of hating (which is rampant here) should probably go play in traffic, or become a Heat fan, whichever best suits you.

As for Javale, again, he isn't even in his 2nd year. We knew he'd be a project, and his complete and utter lack of basketball knowledge baffles me too, considering his genes.

But ask yourself this: can you name another player in the NBA with his combination of leaping ability, height, and length? You probably can't, can you?

You can teach a player how to correctly rotate on defense, how to box out, and how not to bite on pump fakes. You cannot, I repeat, cannot teach a player how to touch the top of the backboard, or go coast to coast and finish with a dunk many guys a foot shorter can't pull off. Javale will eventually get it. It took Dray 5 years, and lest you forget, it took Haywood nearly a decade. McGee has more natural physical ability than both of those guys combined.

Relax, people. It's called rebuilding. By the time we're good again, only a few of the guys currently on roster will still be here, and Gilbert won't be one of them. Enjoy the ride, and be patient while our youngsters put it all together.

Posted by: sasrza | July 12, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

OK here's my wild guess: if the Wiz play better than expected, you'll insist it's in spite of Ernie Grunfeld, and if they struggle, you'll say it's because of him.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Nope. I gave EG credit for building those playoff teams but his time has run out as well. As much as I appreciated what Butler, Gil and Jamison did for the team, it was time for them to go! I cherished the coaching of Eddie Jordan his first 3 years but it was time for him to go and it was appropriate for him to be fired when it happened. The same has to be said for EG, he has to go, about 3 years overdue!

Posted by: Utilityman1 | July 12, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Suns got josh childress so hope wizards have a plan d

Posted by: jefferu

We should still be on Plan A, which is loose for the next few years and get draft picks. Similar to what Oklahoma City and Chicago have been able to do and to a slightly lesser extent Atlanta and Memphis. By the way watch out for Memphis this year, they're going to break out very soon.

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | July 12, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Folks, might I remind you that this is merely ONE preseason game. Lets stop getting all antsy about turnovers.
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Who's getting antsy?

Posted by: crs-1 | July 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Folks it was summer league. who played Center for the opposing team? And now you all rave about javale McGhee scoring 15pts off alley oops. Alert-Alert-Alert: John Wall will not be blowing by Dwade, Jameer nelson, Mike Bibby, Ray Felton, Rondo and other NBA point guards like he did last night to create the easy oops for McGhee.

Posted by: simplewords999 | July 12, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't anybody hear about McGee the year he came out of HS. The guy was basically regarded as a wing player, then he started to grow and grow...

From what I've read the guy was 6'5 or 6'6" and then he went on a late growth spurt ala Dennis Rodman. Coming out of HS he was a skinny 6'10" guy that had to learn how to walk and chew gum.

He's now 22 and still growing, he's noticiably bigger then when we last saw him at the end of the season. Kid's still growing, so's his game, what's the problem???
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | July 12, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Don't understand how you can say that John Wall has more game than Rod Strickland. You must've forgot!!!!!!!

Posted by: steviesteve10 | July 13, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

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