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Josh Howard returning to the Wizards


This isn't going to be the last time you see me in a Wizards uniform. (Photo by John McDonnell/The Washington Post)


Josh Howard played just four games for the Washington Wizards last season, but that apparently was all the time that both sides needed to decide that the relationship should be extended.

Howard agreed on Wednesday to a one-year deal with the Wizards, according to his agent Derek Lafayette. Lafayette said the details within the contract have not been finalized, but a league source said it is expected to be worth close to $4 million with incentives based on games played, minutes played and minutes averaged. The deal was confirmed by a team source. Wizards president Ernie Grunfeld was unavailable for comment.

"He has made a decision to return to the Wizards," Lafayette said. "We're just happy that he's happy."

Howard, 30, joined the Wizards in a trade deadline deal last February that shipped Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson to Dallas. He averaged 14.5 points in four games before tearing his left anterior cruciate ligament in a game against Chicago on Feb. 22, but he impressed the team in his short stint in Washington with his enthusiasm and inspired play.

He joined the Wizards after spending the first 6 ½ seasons of his career in Dallas, where he became an all-star in 2007 but later fell out of favor because of injuries and some questionable off-the-court incidents. The Wizards declined to pick up Howard's $11.8 million option and renounced his rights to make room for the trade that brought from Chicago Kirk Hinrich and the rights to first-round pick Kevin Seraphin.

But they intended on re-signing him at a smaller deal, contacting his representatives when the free agency recruiting process began on July 1. Howard also received interest from Boston, Chicago and Cleveland, according to Lafayette.

Lafayette said Howard is "ahead of schedule" and doing "very well" with his rehablitation. Howard visited with doctors this week, is expecting to soon start running and is scheduled to be back going full speed by late October. "They are really satisfied with the way that he is healing," Lafayette said of the doctors. "All the reports are coming back good and that he is ahead of schedule post-surgery."

No. 1 overall pick John Wall, a native of North Carolina like Howard, offered his approval on his Twitter account. "Glad to hear we [re-signed] Josh Howard...Feel he can help us out a lot!!!"

The Wizards now have about $5 million left to fill out their roster, which now stands at 11 -- it could be 12 as soon as Seraphin negotiates a buyout with his French team, Cholet -- after already making moves for Hinrich, forward Yi Jianlian and veteran center Hilton Armstrong. The Wizards don't anticipate that Howard will be ready before the start of the regular season and the only other natural small forward on the roster is Al Thornton, who was acquired from the Los Angeles Clippers at the trade deadline.

By Michael Lee  |  July 28, 2010; 5:46 PM ET
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Comments

This is good news! If the deal is right...

Posted by: ericmc1998 | July 28, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Good! Josh Howard has something he wants to do, that is prove to the Mavericks they made a mistake.
Good luck and I hope he gets it done.

Posted by: rickgonz | July 28, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Good news!

Stay healthy my friend...

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | July 28, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I agree, basically. But it will only be good news if Howard is able to recover sufficiently from his injury and be close to the player he was.

The Wiz must think he will be.

Posted by: cannontl | July 28, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice to get a status on his recovery and when he is expected to be able to reurn.

Posted by: cannontl | July 28, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

That's pretty much it for cap space then. Hopefully, the contract is only partially guaranteed.

Posted by: djnnnou | July 28, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Ernest Grunfeld's intelligent restraint has paid off in the form of a veteran small forward who will make John Wall better from Day One. If this team is within sniffing distance of a playoff spot this season, Howard will help us get there as he should be rounding into form for the final push in March/April.

Amazing things happen when you don't bid against yourself and once again, Ernest shows he's two or three moves ahead of the competition in this chess game called stocking an NBA roster!

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | July 28, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

"In Grunfeld We Trust!!"

Lol, he ain't healed just yet. I hope he is because I hated to see him go down like that on the floor.

If he never makes the court it's a terrible move.

Remember, this is the same guy who gave a guy with a bum knee a $100 million dollar "discounted" albatross.

"E. Grunfeld's a BUST!"

;)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | July 28, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I read that medical Marijuana helps repair torn ligaments so Josh should be as good as new by the start of the season.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 28, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I too am hoping that Josh is healthy,as far as EG is concerned he's doing his job, believe me he's screwed up enough over the last two and a half years he need's to get something right.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 28, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

We definitely a tougher team heading into
the season if the Wizards and this is a
big if---if we can play solid defense and play
uptempo offensively we might be decent

Posted by: grayterrence | July 28, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

OK, let me be the first to say it. I don't like the signing. I like Josh, but signing him back makes no sense to me. If the Wizards are going to build with youth then they need to be all in with it. This is a year where going all in with playing young guys. Smith and Kirk, just give us combined 5 more wins, a lower pick in the draft and they will take away minutes from Nick Young, Al Thornton, Booker and other young guys. We don't have a coach who plays young guys unless he has to. This signing will only take minutes away from people who need it.

Posted by: 33dgriffin | July 28, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

A one year deal makes no sense. Howard's not likely to be a 100% until next season.

Posted by: bozomoeman | July 28, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

A one year deal makes no sense. Howard's not likely to be a 100% until next season.

Posted by: bozomoeman

A two-three deal would make even less sense. The length and price are right, imo.

Posted by: and_1 | July 28, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

...two-three year deal...

Posted by: and_1 | July 28, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I would prefer a young, healthy SF with upside too. I thought that was the plan. Josh's numbers have been declining.

Anyway, it seems like the Wiz have to give away millions for no reason every season. Last year it was for that older guy, Fabricio Oberto. Josh Howard should be better than Oberto was, even if Josh does not fully recover from his injury. So, overall, it could be worse.

Posted by: EdDC | July 28, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 33dgriffin | July 28, 2010 6:48 PM

Thornton and Martin are nice players and have the inside track on logging heavy minutes early in the season. If they're getting it done, Howard just becomes a piece the Wizards can trade to get a pick or player around the trade deadline. Very little downside to this move.

Posted by: and_1 | July 28, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Thornton and Martin are nice players and have the inside track on logging heavy minutes early in the season. If they're getting it done, Howard just becomes a piece the Wizards can trade to get a pick or player around the trade deadline. Very little downside to this move.

Posted by: and_1 | July 28, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I hope you're right.

Posted by: 33dgriffin | July 28, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse


Yeah, I would prefer a young, healthy SF with upside too. I thought that was the plan.

Posted by: EdDC | July 28, 2010 7:06 PM

The Wizards have two of those in Cartier Martin and Al Thornton. Complain, complain, complain.

Posted by: bobabuie | July 28, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what planet you people have been living on for the last three years but Nick Young is a BUST! Nobody's taking minutes away from Nick except Nick. Grunfeld better learn to dig deeper than a guy's max vertical and shuttle run because Nick is clearly missing a heart and a brain. He's a prime overseas candidate after this season. Across the pond, his athleticism might give him an advantage that he doesn't have in the NBA.

Posted by: bobabuie | July 28, 2010 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Some of you never give it a rest. Signing an all-star caliber player for basically a one year veteran minimum deal is a win win. There is no to little downside to this signing. In case you didn't notice, the veterans we have signed are on 1 to 2 year deals. You have to provide a young roster with some sort of veteran leadership. Lord knows, GA is not the perfect fit for that job description and JH was great for the time he was here last season. At the time he went down, he was rapidly becoming my favorite player. Thx for resigning JH, I look forward to a very compelling season.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 28, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I think the reason the Wiz are paying Josh Howard half of what his going rate would have been if everything was perfect is: that he won't be health till half way into the season.

In the meantime, they will try out a free agent or two, and probably will cycle through a couple non-guaranteed contracts.

Posted by: rickgonz | July 28, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

A healthy Gil, a great Wall of Jon, the Javalavator, a focused Dre, and Deep at the 3 with a solid bench...we're going to suprise a lot of teams. I feel better about this season than I did about last.

Posted by: Gooddad | July 28, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse


To those who have been following this story, Lorenzen Wright's body found. RIP.

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Posted by: bobabuie | July 28, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Since you can't sign a 6-month deal, a 1-year deal is the next best thing. I like the deal. Looks like Howard wants to be here and he has something to prove. And at $4million, that's not a lot of money for the talent he brings.

Some one said he'll take away minutes from a young player. Please, which young player plays SF for the Wizard? Dominic McGuire is gone.

Posted by: tundey | July 28, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Howard tore his ACL.
He suffered this injury in February.
He's 30 years old.

I can't think of any NBA players that have recovered from a serious knee injury in less than a year. So even if he does the unthinkable and is ready in one years time, that gets him on the court in Feb. 2011.

So Ernie has essentially paid Howard $8 Million for this season.

Posted by: bozomoeman | July 28, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

bozo,
No matter how you slice it, $4 million is going from the Wizards to Howard, not $8 million. It's a good deal.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 28, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

@gimmedat
My point is, paying Howard $4 Million isn't a deal at all. You're getting a player coming off a serious injury, that at best will not able to play until the All Star break.

If this front office believes he can come back and be the player he was, then the value would be to sign him to a cheap deal over 2 to 3 years. So once he recovered, you have an "All Star" caliber player at a cut rate.

For one season, $4 Million, hope Ernie got a team option or this is a non-guaranteed contract.

Posted by: bozomoeman | July 28, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

bozo

It's a great deal. And nobody has said that he won't be back until the All Star break. He's expected to be at full speed in late October. Granted it MIGHT take him a few weeks after that to be game-ready, but we don't know yet, do we?

To your second point, you don't sign him to a multi-year contract without knowing exactly how he's performed with a repaired knee. If his knee is fine and you lose him after one year to another team, "them's the breaks". He's getting up in age and is best considered a rental, here to provide a little veteran leadership/know how THIS SEASON, in my opinion.

One year, $4 million is right in every way for the Wizards.


Posted by: gimmedat | July 28, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if you'd call signing Howard a 'deal', because that injury history alone is enough to scare off some suitors. Not that he isn't a good player when he's healthy. He had a couple outstanding offensive seasons in Dallas but is probably more valuable as a defender of scoring SFs. You can't depend on his outside shot. If he has a good year, he could very well sign somewhere else next season, which Grunfeld must be aware of. Still, he's no worse than anyone else they can throw out there, and the price was right.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 28, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

gimmedat,
I believe we can agree to disagree on whether this was a good signing.

Posted by: bozomoeman | July 28, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I like this deal. A risk worth taking, and at a good price.

Posted by: crs-1 | July 28, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Howard went under the knife in late March I believe. The rehab process goes at least 6 months and a return to the court usually happens within 9 months.

This would put December 1st as a potential target for return.

I don't see the harm in a hard working, defensive-minded SF with all-star pedigree on the team for a reasonable salary.

I think aiming for the 8th seed is now a realistic goal. Keep in mind the Bulls nabbed that spot last season and they lost 10 games in a row after the all-star break.

Posted by: elfreako | July 28, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

OK, those are all good comments. Maybe it is a good deal. Howard gets to recover from the ACL and try to revitalize his game this season, so that he can get a better deal with another team. I can see the logic of it now. It does honor his work with Dallas and the deal prepares Howard for his NBA future. it helps out a great guy. Thanks for all the insights. I do see the benefit now.

Posted by: EdDC | July 28, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: EdDC | July 28, 2010 9:20 P

Now exercise your brain and think of the many positives for the Wizards.

Posted by: 2020doc | July 28, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

The deal is not for 4 million. As Michael wrote"a league source said it is expected to be worth close to $4 million with incentives". Key word-incentives. Most incentives include games played, certain stats attainment. He has to play very well to reach 4 million.

Posted by: ptp23 | July 28, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

By signing Howard I guess this is an attempt to prevent a 12 win season. That could break John Wall's spirit the way the Clippers have been breaking high draft picks spirit's for over 30 years!

Posted by: MeviousMan | July 28, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

"One year, $4 million is right in every way for the Wizards."

Only if he actually sees the floor.

If he doesn't he just eats cap space and the Wiz still have to sign shmucks to replace him.

It's "taking a chance" by all parties.

I can't think of anyone who has come back in less then a year from an ACL injury and been "fully" recovered however.

Bozo is wise. :)

- Ray

"E. Grunfeld's a BUST!"

Posted by: rmcazz | July 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Bozo is a bozo. ;-)

2 to 3 year contract. Are you kidding me?

Posted by: 2020doc | July 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

OK...so all you folks thayt hate this deal tell me...what kind of SF can you nab for a one year deal at $4 mil?

That is the kind of money real NBA players spend on strippers.

This is an outstanding geal. This team is setting the table with a ton of young guys and will have some cap freedom the following year when Yi, Thornton, Young, Hienrich and Howards contracts expire.

Don't you get it? we make the playoffs, barely, but this team is about down the road. there is NO ONE that the Wiz could have signed this offseason that would get them close to a championship. Not for this year or down the road. Fielding a hardworking team that will be competitive most nights is the best we could have.

So I don't care whether the team pays $1 mil or $4 mil or $14 mil...Its not my money. This team isn't winning anything this year anyway so WHO CARES as long as the contracts are short.

Posted by: Blurred | July 28, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

meant we MAY make the playoffs, barely

Posted by: Blurred | July 28, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Every one-year contract is "taking a chance" by all parties.

If Howard re-injures that knee this year, he's screwed. If Howard doesn't play this year, the Wizards might only owe him the veteran's minimum (sure would like to know what his base salary is). I don't see this another dumb move by the Wiz.

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | July 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

This signing shows that Ted (thankfully) has higher expectations for the team this year than many of its fans do. This whole business of expecting to be terrible just breeds and reinforces the culture of losing the franchise needs to avoid by any means necessary.

Looking at the roster and the coach, you gotta think .500 is legit goal in the pathetic East, and it's by no means out of the question to think the team could sneak into the postseason.

Posted by: divi3 | July 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

"This signing shows that Ted (thankfully) has higher expectations for the team this year than many of its fans do. This whole business of expecting to be terrible just breeds and reinforces the culture of losing the franchise needs to avoid by any means necessary.Looking at the roster and the coach, you gotta think .500 is legit goal in the pathetic East, and it's by no means out of the question to think the team could sneak into the postseason.
Posted by: divi3"

LOL and if this team doesn't make it, guess who will be among the first calling for the heads of GM and head coach? In the name of 'accountability'...

Hey, maybe that's the idea.

LOL

Posted by: Samson151 | July 28, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

"The deal is not for 4 million. As Michael wrote"a league source said it is expected to be worth close to $4 million with incentives". Key word-incentives. Most incentives include games played, certain stats attainment. He has to play very well to reach 4 million.Posted by: ptp23"

I guess the real question is how does this signing affect the potential for others.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 28, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Very pleased with this move. After a disastrous 09-10 season, we finally have a real NBA rotation to work with:

PG Wall
SG Arenas
SF Howard
PF Blatche
C McGee

Bench rotation of:

Hinrich
Thornton
Yi
Young
Armstrong or backup center TBD

And Booker, Seraphin, and/or Cartier Martin learn in practice and crack the rotation at the appropriate time.

That's a very respectable 12 man roster.

Posted by: drischord | July 28, 2010 10:45 PM | Report abuse

"Howard tore his ACL.
He suffered this injury in February.
He's 30 years old.

I can't think of any NBA players that have recovered from a serious knee injury in less than a year. So even if he does the unthinkable and is ready in one years time, that gets him on the court in Feb. 2011.

So Ernie has essentially paid Howard $8 Million for this season."

Bozo is a good name for you. Being ready to go in October is hardly February. And, how that translates into an $8 million dollar salary is beyond stupid. Many players have returned in a year from torn ACL's. He is not an NFL running back for crying out loud. Some have setbacks and some don't. Sounds like he is no GA at this point.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back Josh Howard!

Glad to see that the Wizards and he were able to work out a deal on terms that look pretty reasonable.

Posted by: JPRS | July 28, 2010 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Ummm...the last I checked we have no "young" player developing at the SF position so signing JH has NO effect on the development on the other players except to have another veteran all-star caliber player around. The eternal pessimism on here is putrid.

We also now have Hinrich to push and mentor Wall plus harass GA in practice. From what I remember, Hinrich always gave GA fits. Maybe KH's enthusiasm for defense rubs of on him and others as well. We have big bodied bangers in Booker and Seraphin to at least toughen up the likes of JM and AB in practice and, perhaps, get some mins in games.

I like this roster for now. We obviously could use someone else at C at least as a backup to JM. That's a flimsy position at the moment and I don't know much about HA. I don't see JM as being ready to handle starters mins on a nightly basis yet. Anyway, not going to predict anything this season except to say it should be a compelling team to watch again. I imagine some nights we will run people out of the gym and other nights we will look clueless. But, I see light again and it's been a pretty quick turnaround from last season.

Nice job EG!

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 28, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

How many people on here have torn their ACL??? Buller?? Anyone...

I have torn mine 3 times. Howard should be ready to play by then end of the year at the latest.

Nice signing with Josh Howard, two thumbs up. Low risk, and if he doesn't work out it just a spot on the bench. The NBA minimum salary is just a hair over a million. For a former starter this "could" be a bargain or a bust. Either way Josh played hard in his short stint here and deserved to be brought back.

As far as taking time away from youngsters, I have always believed that you EARN your playing time. You not given it. Competition brings out the best in all of us.

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 28, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

rphilli721 | July 28, 2010 10:58 PM

"He is not an NFL running back for crying out loud. Some have setbacks and some don't. Sounds like he is no GA at this point."

Fine, run off the list of NBA Players to return from ACL Surgery at 100% in 6 to 9 months. No he's not a running back. And you obviously have never played basketball. Howard only has to run, jump, cut, stop and start suddenly on the knee.

Apparently you're an expert on Sports Medicine. So you can explain why Josh Howard has only managed to play more than 51 games in season, twice in seven years.

Posted by: bozomoeman | July 28, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Howard can help the young players on this team develop. He seems to have a great approach to the game, and he wants to be here. If the plan is to build around John Wall, surrounding him with a few quality veterans can only help him develop faster.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | July 29, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

another option, he flashes potential at the end of the year and we sign and trade him for draft picks

Posted by: jpt1002 | July 29, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

I'd agree that an incentive-laden $4 million is a reasonable price for Howard. Other teams weren't exactly lining up for his services, so the Wizards could practically pay him whatever they wanted. As we all know, the Wiz have never cornered the market on wisdom, but this deal looks ok at this point.

Posted by: randysbailin | July 29, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

I said in the other thread that this is the only big signing I would make to our roster. I love it. I think it makes us a completely different team. It makes us so athletic, tough, & dangerous. He can start if he's healthy and if he's just getting back, he can give us a boost off the bench for instant offense. I said before that if Dray never got hurt, then I would guarantee the playoffs. With him being hurt, it could go either way. Now I think this puts us back over the top.

Still alot of questions health wise with Gil, Josh, & Dray but if they get healthy then we can be very exciting at the least. My only fear with Josh is that he seemed to try to be the man too much last year and wanted to pad stats on a bad team but if he plays with that same intensity while sharing the rock, then we will be scary and wont back down from anyone. I love it. You also could tell that he really wanted to be here the whole time. He's from NC and has alot of family in DC. He loved it here and has been rehabbing here. A great deal on the cheap

Posted by: dlts2041 | July 29, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

A classic low-risk/low-reward deal.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 29, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

@Bozo,

Ummm....yeah I have. Probably played more basketball than you. And, check your facts bozo before you start blabbing.

# If you do require ACL reconstruction surgery, 90% to 95% of athletes can expect to return to full sports participation within six months.

# Following an ACL rupture, athletes today have more than a 90% chance of returning to their pre-injury level of sports participation and fitness.

From the official athletic trainers website! Only takes seconds....like I said know what the hell you are talking about.

My point was that Football players usually take longer and are more cautious generally with those types of injuries bc they play a CONTACT sport!

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 29, 2010 1:40 AM | Report abuse

So, he got injured in Feb...let's do the math...hmmm, seems he should be fine by October and training camp doesn't even begin until November. I believe his agent stated as much.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 29, 2010 1:44 AM | Report abuse

And, sorry, I don't have a mental rolodex of who got injured and how soon they returned. But, the actual stats say that most do. Mico fractures and such do take much longer or when players like GA completely ignore their docs and trainers and suffer a major setback. Haven't heard any such thing about JH.

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 29, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how many people are trying to find something wrong with this deal. $4 mil for a former all-star under 32yrs old is pocket change in the NBA landscape.

Come on guys, Caron Butler is the same age as Howard and is making more than twice as much this coming season.

This deal fits exactly what many of us on here were saying we would like to have Howard back for. It is a good low risk move.

Anyone who wants to whine about $4 mil being too much needs to look around the league at how many benchwarmers are making way more than that. It's a real good number for a starter in this league and having to battle him for playing time can only help Thornton stay motivated. Especially since Al gets the first shot at being the starter.

Posted by: SportzWiz | July 29, 2010 1:55 AM | Report abuse

I like Josh Howard at SF more than anyone else on the roster including Al Thornton. However, I think re-signing Howard is a stop-gap (one year only) move. It's part of a master plan to have the Wiz competitive with the elite teams beginning the following year (2011-2012). That plan depends on the likely scenario of the youngs (Wall, Blatche and McGee) improving throughout the year and Arenas playing well. A starting lineup of those four, with Howard at SF, could conceivably make the playoffs and get to the second round. If so, when next year's top free agent looks around at his prospects for future success, he might "come home" to Washington. That free agent happens to play SF and recognizes the tag Melo. Of course, my dream scenario depends on Mr. Melo not re-upping with Denver which, if he properly gauges relative future prospects, he will not. He'll have a much better chance at attaining his own ring with the WIZ rather than sticking with a team anchored by Nene and an aging Chauncey Billups.

Your 2011/2012 Washington Wizards starting lineup:

J Wall PG
G Arenas SG
J McGree C
C Anthony SF
A Blatche PF

I can dream, can't I?

Posted by: phil27 | July 29, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

I've had that same dream phil27. Couldn't agree more that it's a wish come true scenario. For now, I agree it's the perfect storm for finding out what Thornton is made of. He will more than likely play with the starters thru camp and the beginning of the season which should give him enough motivation and security to produce. He'll be DOING the work knowing Josh Howard is going to be available soon. It's on him to make coach bring Howard off the bench. Now let's see if coach can coach. Key play: "incentive based contract"

Posted by: WestCoastBullet | July 29, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely outstanding signing. Someone earlier called it low-risk/low reward, I couldn't disagree more. Low risk/high reward. He is immediately the most accomplished player on the roster, Gil included.

If his knee holds him back, we've invested relatively little. If he gets back to where he was, however, he gives us a legit 3, and Thornton is suddenly a very good backup.

Plus, he already has expressed appreciation to the Wiz for believing in him after the Dallas deal. How much more now? If he regains his form by mid-season, we'll be well positioned to talk extension.

Now can we please talk about the enormous, and glaring, hole at 5? Who is even left out there as a decent backup?

Posted by: psdfx | July 29, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

This signing obviously represents taking a calculated risk. A healthy Josh Howard is obviously a tremendous asset. So the risk is how fast he can come back from the knee injury. The payoff on taking this risk is that if he does come back, the Wizards have filled the hole at SF -- and also have in Howard an asset that can be traded to a contending team for a young player and a draft pick.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | July 29, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

This is the best signing for wiz.He is 30 with bad knee but he is known for his hard work, if he get rid of what he has done in his last 1 and half year in texas, his value in feb. will bring a perfect 1st round pick.That is how rebuilding is exiting.Yi, howard, Arenas and KH willhave the potential to be needed by any contending team for the next 1 and half year.

Posted by: gtefferra | July 29, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely outstanding signing. Someone earlier called it low-risk/low reward, I couldn't disagree more. Low risk/high reward. He is immediately the most accomplished player on the roster, Gil included.

Posted by: psdfx | July 29, 2010 6:40 AM | Report abuse

The bold text doesn't believe you.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

"How many people on here have torn their ACL???...I have torn mine 3 times."

Has Ernie offered you a contract yet?

Posted by: Samson151 | July 29, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

Definitely a low-risk signing, once they got away from that $11.8 mil option. You have to like the guy as a defensive SF, and you need somebody who can handle the scorers who dominate that position. He could be conceivably return to start the season, but why take a chance? They have another vet SF.

But will he be what he was at one point with Dallas? Looking at the record, he's actually had a number of more minor injuries prior to the torn left ACL. He was active for only the 52 games in '08-09 and was entrenched as a backup before coming to Washington (31 games, 9 starts, 26.7 minutes). In those four games, 3 starts with the Wiz, he averaged a little under 23 minutes. Makes you wonder how much we can expect. Maybe a solid rotation player?

It's the defense that's tempting. He was once mentioned in the same breath with guys like Shane Battier and Bruce Bowen.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 29, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Absolutely outstanding signing. Someone earlier called it low-risk/low reward, I couldn't disagree more. Low risk/high reward. He is immediately the most accomplished player on the roster, Gil included. Posted by: psdfx

What has Howard done that causes you to overrate Howard and underrate Gil? Are you smoking weed with Josh?

Josh has proven to be a decent player, no doubt. But he has never led a team further than Gil. In Dallas, he was a player that got his off of Dirk. As I remember, Gil and the Wiz always gave Dirk and the Mavs problems. Dirk had a better supporting cast and Howard was one of the support system.

He is a nice pickup and I hope he gets healthy soon enough to support JWall and GArenas and ABlatche.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 29, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Josh Howard was something of a scapegoat for the various playoff losses in Dallas. The fans complained he disappeared in big games. I'm sure that incident with the national anthem had something to do with their disfavor -- it's Texas after all.

According to Wiki, his nickname is 'J-Ho'.

I think I'd keep that to myself.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 29, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

"How many people on here have torn their ACL???...I have torn mine 3 times."

Has Ernie offered you a contract yet?

Posted by: Samson151

I tore mine once(true), Ernie put me on the Injured list, and cut me when I got healthy(not true).

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 29, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Good signing... potentially a top 75 player, with almost all upside at little financial risk.

Re previous comment on the gaping hole at the 5... I think the Wizards are rolling the dice on JVM with Seraphin as the first banger off the bench when JVMs fundamental defensive weakness begins to hurt the team... There really are not any great alternatives out there, but I would think the team should re-sign James Singleton for his rebounding and energy.

Posted by: khrabb | July 29, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


Amazing things happen when you don't bid against yourself and once again, Ernest shows he's two or three moves ahead of the competition in this chess game called stocking an NBA roster!

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | July 28, 2010 6:15 PM

I don't trust Grunfeld as far as I can throw him.

This is a super dumb move by Ernie Grunfeld. Boston was the only other team interested in Howard and they were only offering the veteran's minimum. Look it up. That means Grunfeld is paying roughly four times the going rate for Howard! Only the Wizards would be dumb enough to do this and not catch any hell for it. Having Howard on the team is a nice feel good story that apparently has everybody all warm and fuzzy but THE PRICE IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

Posted by: gtown85 | July 29, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I wish there was a second year team option...

Posted by: merajc86 | July 29, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Right now, the Wizards have one -- count 'em -- one pure small forward (Thornton) under contract. I'm not counting Cartier Martin because we don't know if he'll even make the final roster and, as far as I know, he's never done anything of note in the NBA outside of the summer league. The risk is minimal because it's a one-year deal for up to 4 mil. with incentives. The upside is substantial because, before Howard got hurt, he was a very good player, a commodity that the team has sorely lacked these past few years. I'm having a little trouble understanding where the critics of this deal are coming from.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | July 29, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

This is a win-win situation for both the Wiz and Howard. If Howard is healthy and able to contribute by December or January, the Wiz get a solid starter at the 3 who can also fill in as needed at the 2. This also gives the team some depth behind Al Thornton at SF. I like the move and there's always a chance that Howard stays here beyond this year if things work out.

If things don't work out, Howard's contract is off the books similar to Jin so there will be essentially another $10M of cap room freed up for next summer.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 29, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Michael,
You couldn't find a better picture than that for this article? OMG! Howard looks ridiculous -- like an old geezer -- and that guy from the Bulls looks like he's feeling him up.

Please get Howard a better picture for the announcement of his signing.

Posted by: Independent11 | July 29, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

IF Howard gets healthy, and IF Gil can regain his edge, John Wall's got a pair of Allstar Caliber wings to run with. By the Allstar break this could be a very dangerous team.

Only real hole in the roster is a space eating, physical big man. The Wiz still have the MLE to work with and nobody's got more money to throw at the last really big man that's out there.

Adding Shaq to this lineup would make it a playoff contender. It would let McGee come off the bench and continue to grow his game against favorable matchups. And it takes a big rebounding load off of Blatche.
With Blatche, Howard, Arenas, and Wall surrounding Shaq this team could get out and run with anybody in basketball.

Adding another starter makes the Wiz into a very deep team with the young talent able to learn from one of the top all time winners in the sport.

A couple of days ago, many on the site said the Wiz would never sign Howard, but now that they have, signing a solid starter at center makes all the sense in the world. There's not a better center on the market, aim high...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | July 29, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Re. Center.
We have McGee and the 6'9" Hilton Armstrong (he'd be 6'7" without his long neck) who is partially guaranteed. If they sign N'Diaye, that's going to be three backups rotating through the game.

Posted by: rickgonz | July 29, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean they won't sign Al Thornton???
I think they should...him and Cartier from the summer league...that dude was fillin' it up from 3pt Land!!!

Posted by: DsturbdCitizn | July 29, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse


I think the MLE is only available to teams who finished the season over the cap.

Posted by: and_1 | July 29, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

"With Blatche, Howard, Arenas, and Wall surrounding Shaq this team could get out and run with anybody in basketball."

This may be the first time the words "Shaq" and "Run" have been used in the same sentence since 1998.

We don't need Shaq. This team, as it stands, has a decent shot at making the playoffs and should be competitive most nights. That means they will be in the upper 47% of the NBA teams. They could luck into an injury decimated first round playoof opponent and get to the second round, but that would be just pure luck.

No matter who we put on this team now, we will not make any real waves this year. We will probably surprise a lot of folks and win more than most people expect, but there is no reason to hamstring this team with long, expensive contracts when our salad days are ahead.

Even tim Duncan (who joined a GREAT team)had to wait a year to make it to the finals. And Wade had to wait two years.

The only player that was able to come in as a rookie and play a big part of a championship was Magic. I would be ecstatic if Wall turned out to be the second coming of Magic Johnson, but I am not counting on it.

This team is shaping up better than I expected and I give credit to the management that is focussing on building a team with a strong work ethic and not tying up their cap sapce down the road. Being patient and allowing Wall and McGee to mature a bit seems like a good move to me.

If your guys with expiring contracts work out, you can resign them. If not, then you end up with about $15-$20 million available next year to draw a new impact player.

Posted by: Blurred | July 29, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean they won't sign Al Thornton???
I think they should...him and Cartier from the summer league...that dude was fillin' it up from 3pt Land!!!

Posted by: DsturbdCitizn

Al Thornton is still under contract. They've made a qualifying offer to Cartier Martin, which apparently he hasn't accepted yet.

Posted by: ts35 | July 29, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Good move ..

Posted by: boblas | July 29, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

This is exactly the type of team we should have been hoping for. As-is, there is enough talent to compete for a low seed. That means there will be some "must win" games late in the season, the very types of games and weeks that are critical in determining what a player is really all about. Who folds? Who comes through? You never know that on a 25 win team.

Doesnt matter if they make the postseason or not, and the majority of the roster can be turned around in 1 offseason thanks to the nature of the signings. Everybody from top-to-bottom is auditioning and that's a good thing.

What is unacceptable this year is toilet bowl campaign filled with excuses about youth and rebuilding and 'just wait 3yrs til Seraphin develops!.' There's just too much talent in the top7 players for that. This season is going to determine if EG/Flip keep their jobs, if AB gets a sniff at an extension, if JM is the C moving forward or just an athlete, Gil stay or goes, etc, etc.

Compelling stuff and ya gotta love it!

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

This is exactly the type of team we should have been hoping for. As-is, there is enough talent to compete for a low seed. That means there will be some "must win" games late in the season, the very types of games and weeks that are critical in determining what a player is really all about. Who folds? Who comes through? You never know that on a 25 win team.

Doesnt matter if they make the postseason or not, and the majority of the roster can be turned around in 1 offseason thanks to the nature of the signings. Everybody from top-to-bottom is auditioning and that's a good thing.

What is unacceptable this year is toilet bowl campaign filled with excuses about youth and rebuilding and 'just wait 3yrs til Seraphin develops!.' There's just too much talent in the top7 players for that. This season is going to determine if EG/Flip keep their jobs, if AB gets a sniff at an extension, if JM is the C moving forward or just an athlete, Gil stay or goes, etc, etc.

Compelling stuff and ya gotta love it!

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse


Divi - you've been off your meds recently but I gotta say I agree with you 100% on this.

Posted by: Blurred | July 29, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

A one year deal is ideal because there will be little to no basketball in the 2011-2012 season. Even if there is, the Wiz will be in a better position to go after a high quality free agent at small forward. Melo would be nice.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | July 29, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Is that a good deal: $4 million for a player who likely won't be healthy enough to start until January 2011?

Posted by: Independent11 | July 29, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Is that a good deal: $4 million for a player who likely won't be healthy enough to start until January 2011?

Posted by: Independent11 | July 29, 2010 10:50 AM

What makes you say that? Wes Welker is 29, blew both his ACL and MCL, had surgery in february, and is expected to start Week1. And that's FOOTBALL.

Howard could be starting by midNov

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Are we still in the market for John Howard as per yesterdays poll? He seemed to be quite popular.

Posted by: Blurred | July 29, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The early 70's Lakers were one of the runningest teams in basketball and they held the all time wins in a season record until MJ and the Bulls broke it. Wilt played defense, rebounded, and threw the outlet pass.

By that point of his career Wilt only crossed half court if they didn't score on the break. That way he was already back on defense. I was at a game at Cole Field House and my brother and I counted 20+ times Wilt never stepped accross half court when his team was on offense.

When Wilt did get the ball in the lowpost he was primarly a passer. Watching him and Wes battle for postion down low was a classic.

Late in the game, Jack Marin tried to wrap up Wilt to give an intentional foul when Wilt snagged an offensive board, Wilt just went up and dunked with Jack hanging all over him. One of the most impressive feats of strength I ever saw. Dunking with a 200+ lbs guy that jumped on his back trying to keep him on the floor.

Having a slow center should not slow down a running team if the guy is a strong rebounder and a good passer. Shaq is both.

The Wiz did finish the season over the cap, they didn't get under until they renounced a batch of guys earlier this month. I doubt they make any play for Shaq. But I do think he'd fit in with this team. I'm sure not a cap expert, but I think the Wiz have access to the MLE.

Think Shaq wouldn't dearly love to go into Miami and beat Riley and the triplets? With this team, if they got healthy and hot, Shaq could be a real weapon in the playoffs. Wall's a winner, give him the best chance to do it...
GM
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | July 29, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

This was the right deal. Low risk low reward with a player with something to prove. Howard will likely be a reserve for Thornton and we now have two athletic 3's on the team and Howard as shown last year plays well at the two guard and can back up Gil while Kirk will be Wall's back up.

If his season turns out good he can be a valuable trade commodity.

Posted by: Gusdaberean1 | July 29, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

@Ray,

Ernest Grunfeld has been gainfully employed as a GM in the NBA for 17 CONSECUTIVE years. Not one year has gone by since 1993 where he has not been on the job. You have badly damaged your credibility by referring to him as a 'BUST'. You are clearly in the unenviable position of rooting for the Wizards to fail. What a pity!

@gtown85 (LarryInClintonMD?),

You have no idea how much money was offered to Howard by other teams prior to his accepting the Wizards offer because such negotiations don't get publicized. Consider this: At this time yesterday we had no idea that the Wizards had made Howard an offer, much less that he would agree to it. That is a fact.

Before you fire off such an angry post again, you might want to remind yourself that there are some things you'll never know. How much other teams offered Howard is one of them.

I remind you both (and Wizards fans in general) that all is forgiven on the Wizards bandwagon. It still awaits.

In Grunfeld We TRUST!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | July 29, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Is that a good deal: $4 million for a player who likely won't be healthy enough to start until January 2011?
Posted by: Independent11

"a league source said it is expected to be worth close to $4 million with incentives based on games played, minutes played and minutes averaged"

If he plays, we pay him. If he plays less, we pay him less.

Posted by: ts35 | July 29, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

The Wiz did finish the season over the cap, they didn't get under until they renounced a batch of guys earlier this month. I doubt they make any play for Shaq. But I do think he'd fit in with this team. I'm sure not a cap expert, but I think the Wiz have access to the MLE.
Posted by: flohrtv

It's not where you finish the season, it's your cap number when they set the cap for the next year. The Wiz have no MLE.

Posted by: ts35 | July 29, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Shaq would be a great pickup, even from just a comedic perspective...he's generally hilarious.

But he's not coming here.

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Al Thornton is still under contract. They've made a qualifying offer to Cartier Martin, which apparently he hasn't accepted yet.

Posted by: ts35 | July 29, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

how dare Ernie and Ted not force JH to sign his offer, have they learned nothing from that whole Livingston fiacso?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

how dare Ernie and Ted not force JH to sign his offer, have they learned nothing from that whole Livingston fiacso?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse0

Pardon me Mr. Hollywood

What you fail to realize is that I'm capable of writing paragraphs with a lot of space in them without saying anything at all.

That takes talent my friend.

You think Magic, Nash, and Stockton were good? Shaun Livingston is better. 6'7'' averaging almost a career best 9.2 ppg and 4.5 apg brains of a astronaut, and the knees of a toothpick.

If you think that Hinrich is a better backup for Wall then you have another thing coming. If he wants to leave, you show him that he is wanted. If he doesn't you lead him to the Verizon Center basement and chain him to a locker. It will not be reported by the media, but it will be true. However if it is reported it is not. That is how you work the Matrix.

That is what keeping players in DC is all about.

LarryFromShaunLivingstonsBasement

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 12:10 PM

Hilarious! (sorry Larry)

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

If Josh Howard doesn't come back healthy and be effective on the court it will be "In Grunfeld We Bust" instead of "In Grunfeld We Trust!!". Signing another player with a bum knee is risky. I'm not sure what other options were available but a one year deal is not really that bad.

Posted by: washwizkids | July 29, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 12:10 PM

Well done, sir! Well done indeed.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 29, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 12:10 PM

better than i could've asked for

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | July 29, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

@melodious_thunk - 'In Grunfeld We Trust?!?' please back away from the crack pipe. Did you forget Grunfeld is the one who got us into this mess in the first place. If you count tanking, then getting lucky in the lottery as some type of strategy then i guess he gets the credit. But remember he basically traded Tyreke Evans or Steph Curry for Kirk Heinrich and Kevin Seraphim. Who does that???

Posted by: DaddyDearest | July 29, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Shaq would be a great pickup, even from just a comedic perspective...he's generally hilarious.

But he's not coming here.

Posted by: divi3 | July 29, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Chris Rock might be available.

Posted by: randysbailin | July 29, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 29, 2010 12:10 PM

Now that was funny!

Posted by: rphilli721 | July 29, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The problem with 1 yr deal and incentive base on minutes played is that he may be unhappy about PT when coach chooses to give them to young players.

Posted by: sagaliba | July 29, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

IDOITS!

LET LIVINGSTON GO AND PICK UP THIS BUM!

This is why the Wizards are always looking towards the future!

Wall,Wall,Wall do you really thank this little dude will last a whole season without injuries?

It's the same ole WIZARDS! Just with a new owner.
Will somebody FIRE GRUNFIELD!

Some fans live in DREAMLAND!

This team will get there a@# kicked all season! So much for the FUTURE!

Posted by: shamken | July 29, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

PRAYERS are answered, Thank the LORD!

In GOD we trust; but we true WIZARDS FANS Love Ernie Grunfeld for the outstandingly wonderful job that he has done with our team.

We as fans know that "Everybody" makes mistakes, but real veterans over-come.

The person whom said bring on Shaq needs Prayer; they said Shaq and run in the same sentence. The old-guy can take up space but whe n it comes to running we better stick with our guns so to speak. Remember "Da Bulls" won all those championships without a big-name center.

When Michael Jordon was graciously playing in DC, Shaq called him old and made a joke of it. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Josh makes us a championship contender this year because of the proper mix of quality veterans and youngsters.

I Love the way everybody is getting along and some of ya'll are saying some funny things.

Peace, Chef John

Posted by: upscalechef | July 29, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I liked Josh's attitude in his short stint last season, and that injury was heartbreaking. I hope he can recover enough to be as productive as he was in those few games.

Posted by: blackjack65 | July 29, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"The problem with 1 yr deal and incentive base on minutes played is that he may be unhappy about PT when coach chooses to give them to young players."

Posted by: sagaliba

Conversely, the benefit of a 1-year, incentive-based deal is that if he cops an attitude and becomes a distraction, they can cut his ass with minimal financial impact.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 29, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Grunfeld did not trade Tyreke Evans. He was off the board before the 5th pick. And it wasn't Grunfeld, it was the Pollin family. Try to win one for the old man. If leonosis was the owner last season the Wiz would have picked Curry. Grunfeld was just doing what the boss wanted him to do. He does have a boss. I would say only Pecherov was the bust. which is too bad because I liked Pecherov. I thought the Wiz might try to pick him up again. Guess not. And this Shaq thing has a problem. He wants too much money, he wants to start and he wants to play with a playoff team. Besides, with Wall do you really want an aged lumbering Shaq trying to keep up? I bet Shaq would rather play with the Celtics or San Antonio. Veteran teams dedicated to half court play.And I don't think Josh Howard is unhappy with a one deal. He keeps his career going because he isn't going to be healthy this season. I think he is happy that he is being paid to play basketball this year and isn't he better off being a part time player this season? After all, if he shaows he is healthy there are teams like San Antonio and the Celtics, the dumping ground for aging talent a little past their prime. So I think its a good deal for the Wiz and Howard which is why they agreed to a contract. I think it's obvious that Thorton is their starting small forward. I always liked him except that he is so inconsistant. Sometimes you think he can put up forty and at other times you have to look hard to find him on the court. I think Howard is there like Hinrich. A veteran player who can give them some good play on both ends of the court and bring a can do attitude off the court.They are player coaches. Overpaid but a one year contract and Hinrich is trade worthy next season so I don't see a long term commitment here. They both could be off the books next season and its not like there is a lot of options to turn to.The Bulls are already regretting that they traded Hinrich now that they see how much money they have left.The Wiz have four rookies on the team. That is plenty of players to develop if they ever do and they will have more coming in next year.And in the end I think the Wiz will trade Arenas. He will never be anything but Hibachi but this isn't Hibachis team any more. They will get more draft picks for him and the Wiz will have more money to work with. If Hinrich and Howard and Arenas departed at the end of the season thats a So next about 26 million freed up. This is the season to see what they got and next season they can fill out the rest of their roster and complete their rebuilding. If they can put together 7 or 8 really talented players they can make a playoff run in a couple of seasons.

Posted by: firemetalrat | July 29, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"By signing Howard I guess this is an attempt to prevent a 12 win season." WHAT! This team won 26 games last year with Blatche as THEIR BEST PLAYER! With Gilbert, Wall, Hinrich, and an improved McGee they are a "35" win team without Howard.

Adding Howard and their improved Bench should put them close to the 40 win mark. They have bench players (Thorton, YI, and Hinrich) who were "starters" on other teams, and all but New Jersey (Yi's team) were better than the Wizards.

Posted by: WantUnbiasedNews | July 29, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: firemetalrat |

Paragraph breaks should be your friends. Seriously.

Posted by: nmik | July 29, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

i love the deal. and i'm hoping (more) that the team "allows" his injury to fully heal. let's NOT rush him back (or LET him rush back) a la arenas...

Posted by: dcjazzman | July 29, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

despite current attention-retainment limitations, even IF we did sign shaq, i'm not sure i'd want him to start. if i'm coaching, his main job will be TEACHING javale how to play nba ball. showing, talking and teaching! mcgee WOULD then learn how to use his considerable athleticism to avoid and even trump a true ruff & tuff big man. he'd learn some moves and he'd learn NOT to ever put on too much weight. be great for his confidence, too. like, why the hell not sign shaq???

Posted by: dcjazzman | July 29, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Better yet, why not hire a retired HOF center to coach up Javale, even if only for a couple months. E.g., what's Kareem doing these days? Or Olajuwon? That would be cheaper than signing Shaq.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | July 29, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"despite current attention-retainment limitations, even IF we did sign shaq, i'm not sure i'd want him to start. if i'm coaching, his main job will be TEACHING javale how to play nba ball. showing, talking and teaching! mcgee WOULD then learn how to use his considerable athleticism to avoid and even trump a true ruff & tuff big man. he'd learn some moves and he'd learn NOT to ever put on too much weight. be great for his confidence, too. like, why the hell not sign shaq???"

Posted by: dcjazzman | July 29, 2010 7:51 PM

Yeah, because Shaq has such a well-established track record for mentoring younger teammates. Just ask Kobe or Dwayne Wade.

Beyond that, even if Shaq were inclined in that direction (and he's not) he'd be the worst possible "mentor" for McGee because the qualities that his game are based on (strength, aggression, physicality) are ones that McGee lacks.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 30, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

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