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NBA sets 2010-11 salary cap, giving Wizards an extra $2 million

The Washington Wizards found out Wednesday night they will have about $2 million more to spend on free agents this summer after the NBA announced that the salary cap for the 2010-11 season will be $58.044 million.

That is slightly more than the projected figure of $56.1 million that teams had anticipated when the free agent negotiating period began on July 1. It is also an increase from $57.7 million last season, when the salary cap decreased for just the second time since it was instituted in 1984.

The luxury tax figure for next season is $70.3 million, up from $69.9 million last season, and teams that exceed that figure will have to pay a dollar tax for every dollar over that number. The mid-level exception is $5.765 million and each team's minimum total salary -- which is set at 75 percent of the salary cap -- is $43.43 million.

The Wizards are expected to complete a trade with Chicago for Kirk Hinrich and the 17th overall pick, Kevin Seraphin, on Thursday, which would add about $10.2 million in salaries to the roster. They made a trade with New Jersey last week to acquire forward Yi Jianlian, who will earn $4.5 million.

After signing draft picks John Wall ($4.2 million), Trevor Booker ($1.1 million) and possibly second-round choice Hamady N'Diaye ($470,000), the Wizards would have roughly $48 million committed to 11 players, leaving them with around $9 million in available cap space to use toward roster upgrades.

The Wizards have not agreed to terms with any free agents, but adding a veteran wing player is their primary focus this offseason. They have contacted the representatives for Mike Miller, Josh Howard, Josh Childress, Ryan Gomes, Travis Outlaw and Rasual Butler.

The new salary cap will go into effect at 12:01 a.m. Thursday, when the league's moratorium period on free agent signings and trades ends.

The Wizards experienced a huge turnaround from the beginning of the season, when the surprising dip in the salary cap had them staring at a $78 million payroll and expecting to make a luxury tax payment - for the first time in franchise history.

But after the team foundered, the Wizards aggressively worked to get under the luxury tax by dealing away Antawn Jamison, Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson near the trade deadline. They also made extra savings by reaching buyout agreements with Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Mike James. Instead of making a $9 million luxury tax payment, the Wizards received a rebate check worth $3.7 million from the league for staying under the tax line - and almost $14 million turnaround.

By Michael Lee  |  July 7, 2010; 9:48 PM ET
 
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Comments

If the New Jersey Nets strike out with the Big Three -- LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh -- who might they consider signing?

Will they try to somehow acquire Gilbert Arenas or a player of that caliber?

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | July 7, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

"If the New Jersey Nets strike out with the Big Three -- LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh -- who might they consider signing?

Will they try to somehow acquire Gilbert Arenas or a player of that caliber?

Posted by: JekyllnHyde | July 7, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse "

That "caliber?" Surely you jest.

Why would the Nets want Gilby?

They already have a better all around guard in Devin Harris.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 7, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

NINE MIL AND a mid-level exception, no?

Posted by: glawrence007 | July 7, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Taking a step back, does anyone have any valid reasons that justify LeBron's hype?

He's a good player, but what makes him think that he deserves an equity stake in the companies that want to pay him to endorse their products?

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38128709/ns/sports-nba/

He asked for Shaq and MeTawn, and none of that resulted in rings on his finger.

He also backed out of his promise to compete in the dunk contest.

Whatever LeBron....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 7, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Some other GM signing ARENAS? No! The nightmare for ERNIE that is GILBERT never ends.

But now that we've got the figure, sign OUTLAW and a slub #5 to spell McGEE and BLATCHE. Still need a guard.

Posted by: glawrence007 | July 7, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Man88 u can't really believe Harris is better than Gil. he has his issue's but Harris can't hold Gil's joc strap.

Posted by: dakel76 | July 7, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Man88 should change name to NOCLUE88 if you think you can compare Devin Harris to Gil. I know you don't like Gil but you should give him his props as a player that has WON GAME! I'll keep checking in and sooner or later, you'll make a comment that make sense. Any team needs at least 3 top notch players to compete in the playoffs or for a championship. Names our "potential 3" not including Gil!

Posted by: zack5 | July 7, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

"Man88 u can't really believe Harris is better than Gil. he has his issue's but Harris can't hold Gil's joc strap.

Posted by: dakel76 | July 7, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Man88 should change name to NOCLUE88 if you think you can compare Devin Harris to Gil. I know you don't like Gil but you should give him his props as a player that has WON GAME! I'll keep checking in and sooner or later, you'll make a comment that make sense. Any team needs at least 3 top notch players to compete in the playoffs or for a championship. Names our "potential 3" not including Gil!

Posted by: zack5 | July 7, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse "

LMAO!

So if Gilby is such a great player of the future, then why is EG and other people on this blog talking about dealing him?

Get over Gilby and his 30 pt scoring averages of the past. Gilby can't do that anymore, and he never won anything even when he was taking all those shots to score tha taverage.

Knee surgeries and age don't result in Gilby becoming like fine wine.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 7, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

You are kidding right? Devin Harris is a better guard than Gil, in what planet or world would that be , planet Devins Mom?.Get serious.

Posted by: mfowler1 | July 7, 2010 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Gil at 85% of what he was, was gettin 22 & 7 last year. Gil 2.0 will be BETTER STRONGER FASTER etc....... But seriously who is the hell REALLY thinks Devin Harris is better than Gil? That just shows how you feel about him personally. He do somethin to you? Awww Gil didnt sign him autograph. Poor baby. Bad enough you make him sound fruity, callin a grown man Gilby.

Posted by: Mikereese23 | July 8, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Instead of making a $9 million luxury tax payment, the Wizards received a rebate check worth $3.7 million from the league for staying under the tax line - and almost $14 million turnaround.

Last year when I wrote the team would be under the cap by the end of the year people wrote that I was wrong...

I'm still waiting for you (yes, you know who you are) to admit I was right.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 8, 2010 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Devin Harris is a very good guard, but he seemed to flag last season with the rest of the Nets. Hard to understand that team tanking so completely after a reasonably good season the year before. If they did get LeBron, they might really turn things around. But that doesn't seem likely.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 8, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

With all the craziness surrounding the Lebron James announcement, I thought some of you would find this amuzing. (Another crazy NBA offseason rumor)

Some friends in Wisconsin told me there was a rumor that the Bucks called the Cavs and tried to re-visit a trade of Michael Redd (and we think Gil has had alot of injuries) that was discussed a couple of years ago. Now that Bosh and Boozer are off the market, teams are trying to prey on Cleveland feeling like they NEED to do SOMETHING.

Despite all the ESPN experts believing that Miami and Chicago are back to being the frontrunners for James to sign with, I still think that he is going back to Cleveland. But, either way it will be funny to see how Cleveland tries to "re-vamp" the roster of a team that had the league's best record.

It's too hard for me to believe that the same guy who has such a big ego that he arranges an info-mercial to sell himself (Billy Mays must be rollng over in his grave) would take less money to sign w/Miami and have to hear about being 2nd fiddle to Wade.

Posted by: SportzWiz | July 8, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

DC_MAN88 = Ernie Grunfeld!!! it all makes sense now!

Posted by: eyekey416 | July 8, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

"Hey Samson151 have u seem my boy Magnum Rolle making his presence felt in the summer league. i know it's only summer league but he has been getting a lot of attention and high remark's for his play from the comentator's. he so far is making me look like a genius.
Posted by: dakel76"

No, I missed that. Got the link?

Posted by: Samson151

ESPN.com

The Pacers selected Magnum Rolle with the 51st overall pick in last month's NBA Draft. And so far, he's impressing in Orlando's Summer League.

Writes Darnell Mayberry of the Oklahoman: "He has taken Orlando by storm. He never stops hustling. He goes after every rebound, contests every shot and plays every possession like it's his lasts ... Rolle reminds me of a smarter, more interested, less athletic Tyrus Thomas. Not a bad set of tools."
We'll caution that this is just the Summer League. But it's possible Rolle could challenge Tyler Hansbrough for playing time next season in the Pacers' frountcourt, as Hansbrough had an uneven rookie year because of injuries this past season.

That would be all EG needs. As I recall he got grief for bringing Rolle back for a second look. If Rolle actually develops into a rotation player, it will change to "He brought Rolle in twice and wasn't smart enough to draft him!" Some times you can't win for losing.

Posted by: ts35 | July 8, 2010 2:13 AM | Report abuse

GET MICHAEL BEASTLEY!! A LOCAL GUY THAT WOULD ALSO GENERATE REVENUE FOR THE WIZ!! STILL YOUNG AND HAS LOTS OF POTENTIAL!!

Posted by: kobe_ted | July 8, 2010 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Man88, Only people really trying to deal Gil are talk radio host and those that have no basetball reasons why they should other than the fact that that he makes 100 Mil. Ernie NOT trying to deal Gil. WIZ NEEDS GIL!

Posted by: zack5 | July 8, 2010 4:24 AM | Report abuse

I beleive the Boulez were 4-9 with Arenas in the starting line up last year. Stats can be very deceiving. They sucked even when he avergaed 22pts and 7 assist. Doesn't anybody remember that bad start we had last year? Pre Gun incident.

Posted by: dougieyoung1 | July 8, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards need to suck for a few more years to be a contender. Of course at the same time they have balance getting high draft picks while be promising enough to convince their star player to stay, as we've seen with the Lebron James train wreck in Cleveland. Thats how the Bulls built the team they have now. Outside of a few great trades they build their team mostly on top 10 draft picks with guys who played int he Final Four.

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | July 8, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards also need another big man. They are a little sparse there. And no, not Fab again.

The Wiz will likely wait until the good players are taken and then take whatever is left over and then we will have to live with whatever we get for a year or so.

Posted by: cannontl | July 8, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Going by the logic that Devin Harris is better than Arenas because the Wizards are "trying to trade him" is backwards when the Nets have been "trying to trade" Harris.

How the hell do you know who the Wizards are "trying to trade" Ernie checks in with you now?

Especially since the OWNER OF THE TEAM said he won't be traded and encouraged fans to buy jerseys...trading him after that would be a TERRIBLE start for Ted as an owner.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 8, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards need to suck for a few more years to be a contender. Of course at the same time they have balance getting high draft picks while be promising enough to convince their star player to stay,

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | July 8, 2010 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Look at OKC they drafted Durant 2nd pick 07 and traded for Green in 07 westbrook 4th pick in 08 draft Harden 3rd pick 09 draft

Wiz Wall 10 and traded for Kevin Seraphin (leave it to Ernie to draft a tweener project) ? 11 ? 12 ?13...

maybe they can be a playoff team in 2014?

That's when I'll buy my season tickets

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 8, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Trust me, if they can find someone to take Arenas, he's gone!

Posted by: slimjim21787 | July 8, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why Wiz are showing interest in Travis Outlaw. Al Thornton got more minutes and better stats than Outlaw when they were both at the Clippers. The silly thing is that Outlaw was making more money, and will probably want more money this year too. I have not really followed Outlaw or even looked at his Youtube highlights.
Can anyone explain?
And Rasual Butler, also from the Clips, and another shooting guard. Why do we need another shooting guard? Unless it is the intention to deal away Hinrich or Arenas or Young?

Posted by: rickgonz | July 8, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

"As I recall he got grief for bringing Rolle back for a second look. If Rolle actually develops into a rotation player, it will change to "He brought Rolle in twice and wasn't smart enough to draft him!" Some times you can't win for losing.Posted by: ts35"

Far as I recall, the only person who thought it was a good idea to draft Magnum was young Dake. My opinion was free agent, maybe a year in Europe. I don't recall hearing a word from anybody else in his defense. Of course, if he turns out to be a find, it'll be like Woodstock -- everybody was there.

Two comments, not just sour milk. Magnum is still skinny. He's still going to be 25 late next season, the oldest player drafted, I believe. It's still the summer league. Don't forget that a couple summers back Jerryd Bayless averaged almost 30 points in the League. Last season he averaged 8+ last season in Portland.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 8, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

maybe they can be a playoff team in 2014?

That's when I'll buy my season tickets

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 8, 2010 8:10 AM

Good thing OKC has more loyal fans than you. OKC's fans went through the tough times WITH the team. You reveal more about yourself everyday.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Trust me, if they can find someone to take Arenas, he's gone!

Posted by: slimjim21787 | July 8, 2010 8:16 AM

AGAIN SMART ONE!!! What will someone be giving up??? Will Someone be giving Noone for a Nothing Gilbert???

You Gilbert haters need to just stop.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 8, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

"I wonder why Wiz are showing interest in Travis Outlaw.... and Rasual Butler..." Posted by: rickgonz

I was wondering the same myself. Outlaw's a tall, skinny forward who has made his living as an off-the-bench scorer who creates his own shot and puts up 3 pointers. He does produce a fair amount of turnovers, something a coach dislikes in a reserve (which he's been throughout his career). His minutes dropped a lot at Portland last season, ending with his trade to the Clips. Maybe the attraction is his obvious athleticism -- he might do well with John Wall.

Butler is the tall guard version of same -- more of an outside bomber.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 8, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I beleive the Boulez were 4-9 with Arenas in the starting line up last year. Stats can be very deceiving. They sucked even when he avergaed 22pts and 7 assist. Doesn't anybody remember that bad start we had last year? Pre Gun incident.

Posted by: dougieyoung1 | July 8, 2010 6:54 AM

Yes, in the lineup and in the wrong position. Is why some of us like me have been steadfastedly saying that Gilbert needs to play the two.

With John Wall at the point and hopefully Livingston is his backup, running the team will be the least of Gilbert's worries.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 8, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

"Doesn't anybody remember that bad start we had last year? Pre Gun incident.Posted by: dougieyoung1"

I think everybody remembers it. You could sure hear the howling around this blog. Gil's performance in 32 games he was active was exceptional, given the circumstances. But it wasn't enough to lift the club anywhere near where most of us thought it would be.

IMO what Gil proved -- particularly staying healthy at 36+ minutes a game -- is that he could still be a valuable addition to a team, but he wasn't going to carry the Washington Wizards to dreamed-of glory.

Then the roof fell in. Or rather, Gilbert Arenas reached up and pulled it down on his own head, and the team's.

If you consider it, he's lucky. He got to show the other GMs he could still play major minutes in the NBA (a big question, remember?). He did a short stint in a halfway house instead of the jail. He lost a bunch of $$ that he didn't deserve anyway. Sure, the fans will be making fun of him at courtside for the rest of his career, but what did he expect?

I think (can't prove) that the team would in fact trade Gilbert if they could get a deal. That's based on Leonsis' taking the time to explain to the media the perspective of other GMs contemplating taking on Arenas' onerous contract. Personally, I wouldn't be disappointed, because I'm tired of Gilbert's act, but maybe he'll turn it around this season and impress everybody with his commitment to winning.

Or maybe not. We'll have to see.


Posted by: Samson151 | July 8, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Seriously enough with the trading of Gilbert. Nobody going to pick up that contract.

Like i said before on these blogs, when Gilbert on his game he's in the top three.

Seems like some of you forgot that but i expect that, it was not to long when Lebron wanted gilbert on his team.

The Wizards need for Blatche to become a slasher who can shoot three's.

If Wizards management thank one of the guys Mr.Lee mention above would make a difference to this team well there a delusional management.

If they had any brains they would have tried to bring Carmelo here!
Gilbert, Walls and Carmelo at least we would have scoring, who could they stop well that's another thing. lol

Also eight teams make the playoffs how can you not be in it?

Posted by: shamken | July 8, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Go after David Lee.

Posted by: Bailey51 | July 8, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"Any team needs at least 3 top notch players to compete in the playoffs or for a championship. Names our "potential 3" not including Gil!"

...or even including Gil, for that matter. Dude, here's a bulletin for you. We're NOT going to be competing in the playoffs or for a championship next season, and while we might sneak into the playoffs in 2011-2012, we surely won't be seriously competing for a championship. And I continue to believe that Arenas will be traded by the trading deadline next season because: (1) The team doesn't want him around Wall; (2) He hasn't been the same player since coming back from his knee problems, and, in fact, may never be the same; (3) Even at his best, he was a one-dimensional player (offense) who undermined the coach's authority, and (4), because of his pattern of erratic behavior.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | July 8, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Gilbert top 3?

Blatche shoot 3's?

Please log out.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 8, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

(1) The team doesn't want him around Wall; (2) He hasn't been the same player since coming back from his knee problems, and, in fact, may never be the same; (3) Even at his best, he was a one-dimensional player (offense) who undermined the coach's authority, and (4), because of his pattern of erratic behavior.

1) Don't remember anyone from the team saying that. It's actually been the opposite.

2) He came back last year played a lot of minutes and I believe started every game. And he got better as the season went on...you know knocking off two years of rust? Was playing very well when he got suspended.

3)How many two-demensional players are there? VERY FEW. Melo, Durant, Dirk, Bosh, Amare ALL one dimensional players. Their one "dimension" just happens to be higher than just about anyone in the league.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 8, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Those of you that are quick to keep pointing out how OKCT did it, need not delude yourself that what OKCT did is the right blueprint to an NBA championship.

Building through the draft is not something new and many teams do it. The one common denominator in OKC is that they got a legit NBA star.

There is a very good chance that the Wizards may already have two in hand in John Wall and Gilbert Arenas.

NBA stars is what gets you rings. Add the right coach and it can happen.

Any team that would be quick to trade away a legit NBA star even one that has to and must redeem himself might be foolish to think that you just rebuild your way to a NBA championship.

It is so premature at this point to rid yourself of one star, when the other has to prove he is also the real deal as well.

In the best case scenario and Wall and Gill pan out and McGee and Blatch exceed expectations, this team still probably needs two more legit dominant pieces to even Sniff, Bark, or Holla At A Ring.

Could the Durantula have needed more help last year and in the seasons to come? Yes

Does anyone think that Wall can carry a team like Durant being the only star? No, don't think so.

If your dice ain't loaded like a Champ, don't go to the Casino.

This is why you need Wall and Arenas, Livingston, Blatch, McGee, and add the best along with them. These roll pieces we have added so far, lets hope that one or two or them turn into borderline legit NBA top notch players.

For if they are not, we got to get some. With the comments I keep seeing I think some just want to be competitive.

I'm talking Rings, a Championship and we don't give Gill away for nothing.

If we trade Gilbert then what comes back has to be star caliber.

I think that some think that since John Wall is our future star we should just let Gilbert walk.

If you just let Gilbert walk you just gave away a 50% chance of winning a championship.

And if it stays at 50% and dosen't increase, will Wall become another Lebron???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 8, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ALL YOU FAKE FANS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH GILBERT ARENAS!!! I am a long time reader of these blogs and i hear the same crap everyday about how we should trade Gilbert for cap room. FOR WHAT!!!! WHY WOULD WE GIVE AWAY TALENT AT A DREAM OR A HOPE OF SIGNING SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO PLAY HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!! Please look at what may happen with the Nets who have mortgaged their future on a wish that they may be able to land LBJ. What will happen if the Knicks don't get LBJ??? Some of you people on this blog make me sick with the trade Gilbert talk. Damn, he made a mistake just like you or me or any other human being has made!!! Now you want to just give up on him like he still can't play ball??? It was not all Gil's fault last year! The team itself, needed to be purged and it was. My God, there is a reason why some of you aren't in the Wiz front office. THIS IS NOT FANTASY BASKETBALL PEOPLE!!!! The Wizards need every talented player they can get. We should be lucky that we still have someone not named John Wall with some kind of star power. I AM SO SICK OF FAIRWEATHER FANS!!!! We are in rebuild mode and thats that! Accept this and go through the bumps and the brusies or GET THE F&*% OF THE BANDWAGON!!!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

"Seriously enough with the trading of Gilbert. Nobody going to pick up that contract."

Bad contracts (and I believe that paying essentially a "max" salary to a player with Arenas' liabilities qualifies) get moved all the time, and I believe the ESPN NBA info. guys who say that there will be teams interested in him.

"If they had any brains they would have tried to bring Carmelo here!"

Uhhh, there's just one little problem there. Anthony is still under contract to the Nuggets. And unless you're talking about a trade (and who on the Wizards would Denver accept for Carmelo), it's called tampering, and Stern would hammer the Wizards with a huge fine and the possible loss of draft picks for doing it.


Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | July 8, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

ADDENDUM.....

Oh and I almost forgot, lets just say that we traded Gil for cap room...

Kevin Durant just signed his 5 year extension....

Melo is contemplating signing his extension. Even if he does hit the open market, Melo will not want to come to a rebuilding team, be it in DC or anywhere else close to home!

So, we get tons of cap space for next year and then what......

FOR ALL YOU GILBERT HATERS...PLEASE FILL IN THE FOLLOWING BLANK:

WE WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN___________________ IF WE CAN'T GET MELO!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I'LL WAIT........

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

As pointed out by others, a number of unattractive attributes, (behemoth contract, does not work and play well with others, avid gun collector) suggest the unlikelihood of Gil being traded before the upcoming season. A great offensive talent, early on we are likely to get a look at the Wall-Arenas backourt, which if nothing else, should be entertaining and could create some buzz. If (against all odds)the Wizards are competitve and not lottery bound they might reconsider Arenas' future with the Wiz, otherwise he's gone at the first opportunity.

Any chance to move Arenas requires that he prove the sustainability of the hops he displayed in his brief run last year. Orlando, Chicago, Cleveland, (Lebron and Gil together again)looking for a missing piece to a playoff puzzle, might be interested - still there's always that ball and chain of a contract. It's going to be tough.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

As pointed out by others, a number of unattractive attributes, (behemoth contract, does not work and play well with others, avid gun collector) suggest the unlikelihood of Gil being traded before the upcoming season. A great offensive talent, early on we are likely to get a look at the Wall-Arenas backourt, which if nothing else, should be entertaining and could create some buzz. If (against all odds)the Wizards are competitve and not lottery bound they might reconsider Arenas' future with the Wiz, otherwise he's gone at the first opportunity.

Any chance to move Arenas requires that he prove the sustainability of the hops he displayed in his brief run last year. Orlando, Chicago, Cleveland, (Lebron and Gil together again)looking for a missing piece to a playoff puzzle, might be interested - still there's always that ball and chain of a contract. It's going to be tough.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Again, why and what will be trading Gil for????

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Again, why and what will be trading Gil for????
Whatever looks good at the time, draft choice, a low post player, an old sock. One other favorable point in Gil's trade status, he's available to someone for a playoff run but the likely upcoming lockout could short circuit some of his contract.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

WE WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN___________________ IF WE CAN'T GET MELO!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 9:54 AM

We will be able to sign someone who is a free agent or someone who becomes available in a trade if we can't get Melo! Stop pretending that only one or two guys can make a difference. BTW, Melo and "LeGone" James haven't won anything yet.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

BTW, Melo and "LeGone" James haven't won anything yet.
Only the hearts and minds of hordes of paying customers.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

WE WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN___________________ IF WE CAN'T GET MELO!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 9:54 AM

We will be able to sign someone who is a free agent or someone who becomes available in a trade if we can't get Melo! Stop pretending that only one or two guys can make a difference. BTW, Melo and "LeGone" James haven't won anything yet.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Here is the thing....I am not saying that Gil will be "THE" difference maker, what i said is that we shouldn't just give away talent! Gil is still a talented player, and still better than some of these second and third teir free agents that are out here on the market today. It would not be smart to give up on someone who made a mistake!

PS - You still didn't give me the name of a player that we can sign or trade for. Stop trying to put this team into competitive mode and lets start looking to try and win a championship down the line!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Here is my argument....

I have seen a couple of "possibilities" or "chances" at what we could probably get if we traded Gil! Neither of you who commented can give me a player, or a sure sign that the Wiz would get equal value! We are better off keeping Gil, building through the draft and once we have enough talent, signing free agents that will actually place us in contention for a title! Until then, keep as much talent and acquire as much talent as we can! Thats the plan!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

...or a sure sign that the Wiz would get equal value! We are better off keeping Gil, building through the draft
You are talking about the future; conditions change, the players available change. Naming specific players is meaningless now because a trade, if it happens, happens in the future. No one is making a trade for Gilbert right now.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

We have seen your argument and the point is moot. Gil will be traded at the first opportunity. Please come back and rant again right after he's moved. It will make you feel SO MUCH better.

No offense, but you are delusional if you think that Gil will help this team win a "championship down the line". Turnover-prone, goofball PGs (which Gil has been) don't help you win squat.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

We have seen your argument and the point is moot. Gil will be traded at the first opportunity. Please come back and rant again right after he's moved. It will make you feel SO MUCH better.

No offense, but you are delusional if you think that Gil will help this team win a "championship down the line". Turnover-prone, goofball PGs (which Gil has been) don't help you win squat.

My point is moot?????? When all you can give me is false hope and maybe this or maybe that??? If you paid any attention to what i said in my "rant", you would understand that what I said was that we wouldn't be "better-off" if we traded Gil. I just can't see any plausibe reality other than the one which is in front of us! Can we win a championship down the line with just Gil, of course not. But, can we win won with Gil, Wall, Blatche and other pieces..I think so! We have Gil, and we shouldn't just give him up thinking that we are going to be able to sign other free agents! We have to be attractive to players and right now even with Wall we arent! Trust me, Gil will work out for the better, he will come out and give us 20pts a game for the first 10 games and all will be forgiven! Lets here you speak after that happens!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

...or a sure sign that the Wiz would get equal value! We are better off keeping Gil, building through the draft
You are talking about the future; conditions change, the players available change. Naming specific players is meaningless now because a trade, if it happens, happens in the future. No one is making a trade for Gilbert right now.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I hear you midlevex and you make a good point, however, we are in rebuilding mode and I have to focus on the future of this team! From what I beleive, Ted is not just satisfied with producing a team that will only be competitve for a 2 or 3 year window. He is trying to build this team where every year, the Wiz are one of those teams that you talk about as being in contention for the title. I don't know about you, but I am tired of just being good enough to get to the playoffs. The playoffs shouldn't even excite fans anymore! It will take time but i beleive that at the very least, Ted has the right plan in place to take us to the top!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ted is not just satisfied with producing a team that will only be competitve for a 2 or 3 year window.
At this point I'd take a competitive two or three year window though I don't think it's opened yet.
The playoffs shouldn't even excite fans anymore! It will take time but i beleive that at the very least, Ted has the right plan in place to take us to the top!
Only one team wins it all, according to your formula everyone else is an unhappy loser. I don't buy it, each season a handful of teams have a shot at winning a title and two handfuls of participating in the playoffs. The fans in those towns are excited and enthusiastic until their team is eliminated from the chase. That's probably enough; enjoy what you've got.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Trading Arenas for a worthless body (think Eddie Curry) and even if they then cut that body works for me. What does it get them? Out from under the cap-killing salary that Arenas draws. Then they could be a player in next year's FA market with a team led by what many stars dream of -- a really good point guard. Arenas is of limited value other than at the box office. He can't guard any guard in the NBA, so he forces them into a zone defense far too much of the time. He needs the ball in his hands and that will detract from the value of Wall. Sorry, Agent Zero needs to go -- asap and for anything that rids them of his salary within a year.

Posted by: dolph924 | July 8, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Ted is not just satisfied with producing a team that will only be competitve for a 2 or 3 year window.
At this point I'd take a competitive two or three year window though I don't think it's opened yet.
The playoffs shouldn't even excite fans anymore! It will take time but i beleive that at the very least, Ted has the right plan in place to take us to the top!
Only one team wins it all, according to your formula everyone else is an unhappy loser. I don't buy it, each season a handful of teams have a shot at winning a title and two handfuls of participating in the playoffs. The fans in those towns are excited and enthusiastic until their team is eliminated from the chase. That's probably enough; enjoy what you've got.

Posted by: midlevex_ | July 8, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Mid...Understand that when I say the playoffs shouldn't excite fans, I am speaking of OUR fans. We shouldn't be concerned about just making the playoffs every year, but rather we should be aiming for higher! And please, please please tell me how this team will compete in a 2 or 3 year window? Look at how long it has taken for OKC to become a power in the West! Unfortunately, what you are asking for is a miracle! I under the realm of reality in that I know this will be a long process! I can take that as long as I see progress!

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: myeldell | July 8, 2010 10:59 AM

Your post if full of false hope, maybe this, maybe that, trust me, blah, blah, blah.

You see, none of what you've written has been proven to be the case. Gil hasn't proven that he can play with Wall. He hasn't proven he can be a primary shooting guard in the NBA. He hasn't proven he can play well without dominating the ball. Maybe he can do all of the above. Maybe he can't. Therefore, what you post as facts are just conjecture. Hope and wishes. It's really that simple. We shouldn't necessarily keep him and hope and wish with all our might that everything will be okay given his contract and his thrice-cut knee. I won't even mention the noticeable lack of explosion he displayed last year.

Take a few deep breaths. Think.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

meant to write Your post is full...

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Please Donnie, do a sign and trade for Zero so he can run with Amare and we can take Curry's 1 yr. Hidenburg to get better for a run at (dare I say) MELO next year??

I've changed my opinion on Melo; he showed me something last year finally.

Posted by: kahlua87 | July 8, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

People keep complaining about Gil not being able to guard point guards. My question to you is WHO CAN? I will say this, rarely have I seen Gil outplayed at his position cause they damn sure didn't stop him. And when Gil ran the point, OFFENSE was never the problem with the wizards.

Until he improves, Wall has a LONG way to go to be in a place where he can even touch Gil as an NBA guard. Those same issues Gil has with guarding point guards, Wall will have as they are similar in size. People say Wall can be Gary Payton defensively, but Payton played in an era where hand checking was allowed. Now you can't touch the point guard. Wall has to be proven in so many areas.

If you want to get rid of Gil, you'd better get something other than cap space. New York, Chicago, Jersey and Miami all had $30mill in space but Chicago had to SETTLE for Boozer it appears. New Jersey will be settling. Wow, New York gave some money to Amare, and they still will stink until they get some other players. Even Miami if they sign LeBron, will need some other players, like 11 of them and have $13mill left to spend so what will that attract? Maybe they can sign Shaq to $1mill contract or something but playing 3 on 12 will not cut it.

Miami, Chicago, New Jersey and York, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, etc., all realize you need more than 1 star player. The Wiz are banking on Wall being a star. They already have another star in Gil. Getting rid of him will be taking 2 steps backwards unless you bring in somebody his level and NONE OF Y'ALL Gil haters or "holier than thou" bamas have named one person to legitimately replace Gil where cap space is NOT the goal.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 8, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Gil is not a star dude...he's just paid like one.

Posted by: kahlua87 | July 8, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Gil is just as much of a star as Stoudemire and Bosh dude.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 8, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

as much as Joe Johnson too.

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 8, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

To take it further, why was he signed to that contract to begin with, while he was injured? Oh I know what you gonna say, because the Wizards were stupid. GTF outta here! Gil filled the Verizon Center. Not Larry Hughes, Caron, or Jamison. When Gil was healthy, don't act like you don't remember those crowds. What happened to the crowds?

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 8, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Free agents will not be central to the Wizards' strategy of improving the team going forward. Ted went that way with Jagr and got burned, then he saw how you can lucky with the draft (Ovie). He's going to go with the way that worked, not the way that didn't.

It's just as well, any FAs of any quality that might think about playing in DC would/will think again when faced with a Flip Saunders as coach. People want to play for legends like Riley and Phil Jackson, even Doc Rivers, but no one wants to play for Flip (especially not his ex-players, and word has gotten around).

Posted by: gbooksdc | July 8, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Gil filled the Verizon Center.

You're absolutely right: that's the reason he was signed to that albatross of a contract--and he may have been worth the money from a box office standpoint. However, unless you're the team owner, you shouldn't really care about that, should you?

Gil put up points, he hogged the ball, he never bothered to try to play defense or a team game, he didn't get us far into the playoffs.

Did that make him a "star"? I guess that depends on your definition of star.

Posted by: nmik | July 8, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Whether someone on a blog names someone to replace Gil is irrelevant to whether he should be here or not, or if he will be here or not. Gil will be traded if management thinks he takes away from the team more than he adds or if they think his departure gives them flexibility to make a big move in the next couple years, something they almost certainly cannot do with his bloated contract on the books. Gil is not Charles Manson but he's not Dwayne Wade either. It's not critical to ANYTHING moving forward that he be on the Wizards roster.

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Someone seemed to think the Wiz would have both cap space AND the mid-level exception this offseason. Not the case. The MLE is an exception to allow teams that are OVER the cap to sign players. The Wizards will have cap space so they won't get the exception. (Strictly speaking, they COULD have the exception, because the cap holds for their various free agents would push their cap figure high enough. But there's no advantage to using it instead of cap space.)

As for the rookie salary numbers, it looks like Mike Lee has simply taken the official number from the rookie salary scale. In actuality, there's a 20% "negotiating" amount. Teams almost always just give the player the additional 20% to make negotiations quick and easy.

That means Wall's first-year salary will be approximately $5.1 million. Booker will be at $1.2 million; Seraphin at $1.56 million.

Which means that the Wiz will have just under $8.1 million in cap space -- not $9 million.

Posted by: TheSecretWeapon | July 8, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Then you get rid of Gil and pray. Pray for somebody to take the money in Washington. The last time a legitimate free agent signed in Washington was win? Gil signed but he was under the radar. Again, who has New Jersey signed THIS year? Whoop-dee-doo, Chicago signed Boozer. Salary cap space means nothing unless you can sign somebody. Then, after a couple years, Gil will be on his last year and then somebody will want the contract. Carmelo ain't coming here next year, regardless of what happens. Wake up. Wall ain't ready to challenge for anything so anybody dreaming of Carmelo is mistaken. Durant is extending. Who else is there you want to throw money at within the next 2 free agent signing years?

Oh, the other prayer, get rid of Gil for more ping pong balls. Lightening struck last lottery. Will it strike twice? How long will it take to build this winner on draft picks?

Posted by: G-Man11 | July 8, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So, what's the word on finalizing the Hinrich trade with Chicago? Wasn't that supposed to have been finalized today? Is anything holding it up?

Posted by: Giveussomehope | July 8, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Bottom line:

If you trade Gil right now, you won't get close to full value for him.

If you keep him and see what he can do for the first half of the season, you have many more options. Worse case, he doesn't play well and is a head case, you won't get value for him and you are no worse off than if you trade him now.

But, if he plays well and has his head on straight, which is a real possibility considering he almost lost his first love which is basketball. (Whether you love him or hate him, there is no denying he is a gym rat who loves the game.) If he plays well, now you have options, you can trade him for something of value or you can keep him and pair him with Wall.

Trading him now limits your options and guarantees you won't get value. Waiting to pull the trigger on a trade scenario vastly expands the possibilities.

Only short-sighted fans and people who have an axe to grind against Gil can't see that.

Posted by: FunStreet | July 8, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Sweetney will ever regain his old form. He had a good couple of years before eating too much of his sister-in law's fried chicken. This summer league run with the Zards could be his last chance at an NBA career.

Posted by: sonny2 | July 8, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Worse case, he doesn't play well and is a head case, you won't get value for him and you are no worse off than if you trade him now.

Trading him now limits your options and guarantees you won't get value. Waiting to pull the trigger on a trade scenario vastly expands the possibilities.

Posted by: FunStreet | July 8, 2010 2:27 PM


Reasonable minds disagree. The Wiz currently have in their favor that Arenas averaged 22/7 as a PG and did not miss any games due to his knee. He is probably as healthy as he is ever going to be. If that surgically repaired knee goes out on him (yet again) this year, do you really think it will not lower his trade value?

Posted by: gimmedat | July 8, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

As a Heat fan and close observer of the team, I'd hate to see Beasley go. This kid has such an upside it's unbelievable. He can freak you out with his skills one moment... and break your heart with ineptitude the next.

Concentration is his only hangup. He just seems like such a stoner at times. Great potential, though. Given a chance elsewhere where he could flourish, the Heat would regret having to let him go.

Maybe.

Posted by: jfern03 | July 8, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

If LeBron goes to Miami I think the Magic would swap Vince and Gortat for Gil. They cannot go into next season with the same roster that failed against the Celtics, expecting to beat BOTH big three teams. Gil may have a lot of luggage, and may not provide a lot of D, but he can match James and Wade point-by-point. I am confident in saying he is better than Carter. It should work for Orlando.

It works for us b/c we get Gortat to compete with McGee for starting C. Vince we can buy-out, or play for one season then trade or buy-out, or whatever.

BTW Outlaw just signed with the Nets, but I'm actually excited to see what Thornton can do as a starter. Just have Yi and Booker and occasionally Young play back-up SF.

Posted by: mcgratsp | July 8, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

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