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Wizards work out Adam Morrision

The Wizards on Monday held a workout in Las Vegas for free agent forward Adam Morrison, the third overall pick of the 2006 NBA draft. According to a source at the Impact Sports facility, Wizards Coach Flip Saunders personally conducted the workout, running Morrison through a series of shooting drills. Scout Ed Tapscott was also in attendance according to a witness.

Morrison has won two championships the past two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers, but his career has been a disappointment. He still has a reputation as an excellent shooter and the Wizards feel the need to add someone with long distance proficiency to spread the floor and create space, given No. 1 overall pick John Wall's ability to break down a defense and get to the basket.

Another source confirmed the workout with Morrison but added, "nothing is imminent." Morrison is expected to work out for the Chicago Bulls on Tuesday.

By Michael Lee  |  July 12, 2010; 6:03 PM ET
 
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Scout Ed Tapscott was also in attendance according to a witness.

Can someone explain how this cat still has a job?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Come on Flip, you should have better things to do.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Wizards will get their super team in a few years....seeing thats the new trend.

I heard Chris Paul was giving a toast at Carmello Anthony's Bday party and he said:
"next year we will forrm our own trio with the new york knicks"

In a few years though...watch out for Wall, Evans and Cousins...super teams in the NBA...love it

Posted by: mrhney03 | July 12, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Nick is a better 3pt shooter than Morrison or Yi btw....but in the doghouse already no doubt.

Posted by: divi3 | July 12, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Playing @ Charlotte with Morrison on the team would be awesome. Can he do the chicken dance?

Posted by: djnnnou | July 12, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Since EG blew the Childress deal,we'll now have the revolving door of bumms, wannabe's and washout's like Morrison and the like,the Yi deal is the one that get's me this guy can't play dead but we sign him anyway, can't wait for the season to start(LOL)!

Posted by: dargregmag | July 12, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Childress refused to sign with any team that had been stupid enough to let Eddie Jordan coach. The man has his principles. LMAO!

Posted by: harrybalz | July 12, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Since EG blew the Childress deal,we'll now have the revolving door of bumms, wannabe's and washout's like Morrison and the like,the Yi deal is the one that get's me this guy can't play dead but we sign him anyway, can't wait for the season to start(LOL)!

Posted by: dargregmag | July 12, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Some of the people on this board act as though free agents have no choice in where they sign. It's as if Childress had no choice but to sign here if Ernie told him to. Childress wanted to go to a winning situation and most perceive the Suns as being closer to winning than Washington -- whether or not that's true I will leave to another discussion.

I'm not an Ernie fan but to assume that he "botched" a signing because someone chose not to sign here is just stupid. He did, however, botch the Alonzo Gee thing last year, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.

Posted by: ironpanthr | July 12, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

"Since EG blew the Childress deal,we'll now have the revolving door of bumms, wannabe's and washout's like Morrison and the like,the Yi deal is the one that get's me this guy can't play dead but we sign him anyway, can't wait for the season to start(LOL)!

Posted by: dargregmag | July 12, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse "

That's what happens when you don't want to spend for decent talent and overspend when you shouldn't (e.g. MeTawn, Gilby, Etan, etc.).

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

What a trend. MJ drafts Kwame who turns out to be a bust and now Adam Morisson (drafted also by MJ for Charlotte) is another bust. Wonder what the brilliant Barkley and Wilbon would have to say about these debacles by MJ.HTML

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse


"Since EG blew the Childress deal,we'll now have the revolving door of bumms, wannabe's and washout's like Morrison and the like,the Yi deal is the one that get's me this guy can't play dead but we sign him anyway, can't wait for the season to start(LOL)!

Posted by: dargregmag

That's what happens when you don't want to spend for decent talent and overspend when you shouldn't (e.g. MeTawn, Gilby, Etan, etc.).

Posted by: DC_MAN88

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You two really should give it a rest.

Posted by: EestiLaps | July 12, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Someone said earlier that the Wiz need Josh Howard cuz you need a vet to balance out the kids. I see the point, sort of like having a coach on the floor.

The Wiz have vets in Arenas and Hinrich, and some of the other guys have been around a least a few years. I would prefer a young guy with upside rather than a vet with declining skills. Sometimes you need four or five young guys with upside to get one to pan out. So the more you have, the better your odds of getting a good one. Arenas, Michael Redd and Boozer are examples of guys who came out of nowhere (the second round) to flourish. At one point, they were under-appreciated young guys.

Another vet like Howard would be a fairly good one-year move (if he returns to pre-injury productivity), but the Mavs were ready to move on from Howard even before the injury. Getting another kid with upside could help down the road. The Wiz are in a risk-taking mode right now, or should be.

Posted by: EdDC | July 12, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

"You two really should give it a rest.

Posted by: EestiLaps | July 12, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse "

Can't. Too much ammo. It's Les BouleS, after all (pun intended).....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Michael, you work much?? Seriously, someone beat you to the Morrison news hours ago via a cheap blog. Great job @ reporting!!

Posted by: Bullzards80 | July 12, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that the Wizards will bring another MJ special in for a workout? -- e.g. Kwame Brown -- He's also an unrestricted free agent this summer.

Posted by: JPRS | July 12, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Scout Ed Tapscott was also in attendance according to a witness.

Can someone explain how this cat still has a job?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 6:08 PM |
Aaah for syarters he doesn't still use words like "cat", please.

Posted by: mfowler1 | July 12, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

"

Scout Ed Tapscott was also in attendance according to a witness.

Can someone explain how this cat still has a job?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse "

Because he's smart, hard-working, and highly respected by his peers. I can see why you'd have difficulty understanding that.

Posted by: IrenePollin | July 12, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"Someone said earlier that the Wiz need Josh Howard cuz you need a vet to balance out the kids. I see the point, sort of like having a coach on the floor."

I agree. But you need a vet who's got something of a mentoring attitude about the gig and I'm not sure Howard's reached that point in his career. If he's on a 1- or 2-year deal (and if there's a lockout, a 2-year deal might as well be a 1-year deal) is he going to be more concerned about helping the team and fitting in or about impressing his next potential employer? And given that the team will already be dealing with the uncertainty of the chemistry between Wall and Arenas and will have at least two other players (Yi and Thornton) heading into option years, I'm not sure having the team's oldest vet be a guy with his eye on the next gig is the best thing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

He's got more rings than Lebron! lol..

Posted by: rickymartin94 | July 12, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree. But you need a vet who's got something of a mentoring attitude about the gig and I'm not sure Howard's reached that point in his career. If he's on a 1- or 2-year deal (and if there's a lockout, a 2-year deal might as well be a 1-year deal) is he going to be more concerned about helping the team and fitting in or about impressing his next potential employer?

Posted by: kalo_rama

It definitely would be a concern, the one thing that mitigates it is that he was in essentially the same situation coming to the Wiz this year, and while granted in a very, very short stint, showed good character at least on the floor. Maybe the impetus would be less a year removed, but he seemed to understand that his character and demeanor were as much at issue in terms of his future signability as was his bball ability.

He's not my first choice, but in a field of dwindling choices, he's at least a choice. If you ask me if I want Josh on a short contract and 80% knee or Adam Morrison........

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Adam Morrison is a poor man's poor man's Mike Miller. Um....yeah.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mike. Can you tell me why Roger Mason is not getting a look? He is very professional and can also handle both the 1 and 2, although the 2 spot is where he is best suited. The dude has the picture perfect jumpshot.

I am assuming Kirk H. does the same thing so Ernie is looking for a 3 who can shoot instead of a 2.

Posted by: BulletsFever | July 12, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

That's what happens when you don't want to spend for decent talent and overspend when you shouldn't (e.g. MeTawn, Gilby, Etan, etc.).

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Setting up a perfect scenario for you, where you can call them cheap when they don't overspend to sign players you like, and stupid if they overspend to sign players you don't. Or overspend for players you like and then when they don't live up to their fat contracts, call the Wizards dumb for overspending. We get the drill -88.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Scout Ed Tapscott was also in attendance according to a witness.

Can someone explain how this cat still has a job?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse "

Because he's smart, hard-working, and highly respected by his peers. I can see why you'd have difficulty understanding that.

Posted by: IrenePollin | July 12, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

The way the old man and Ernie ran the organization into the ground I can see why those two non BB IQ guys could mistake ETaps as smart?

Did you even watch any of the games when he coached?

Yes, Ernie made him head coach and Abe hired Ernie so please spare me the I'm only negative crap.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Please don't sign the laker's benchwarmer.

Posted by: jefferu | July 12, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Who's watching the Clips vs. Les BouleS tonight?

Blake should be playing.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"Any chance that the Wizards will bring another MJ special in for a workout? -- e.g. Kwame Brown -- He's also an unrestricted free agent this summer.

Posted by: JPRS | July 12, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse "

Who knows? Maybe they'll bring in Stackhouse as the SF. After all, MJ traded Rip Hamilton for Stack. Sheer brilliance there.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Setting up a perfect scenario for you, where you can call them cheap when they don't overspend to sign players you like, and stupid if they overspend to sign players you don't. Or overspend for players you like and then when they don't live up to their fat contracts, call the Wizards dumb for overspending. We get the drill -88.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse "

Your points about players I don't like would be valid if MeTawn and Gilby worked out, but they haven't. Do yourself a favor and look up and down the roster over the past few seasons and let me know if you see any FA acquisitions or draft picks that have worked out for EG.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"It definitely would be a concern, the one thing that mitigates it is that he was in essentially the same situation coming to the Wiz this year, and while granted in a very, very short stint, showed good character at least on the floor. Maybe the impetus would be less a year removed, but he seemed to understand that his character and demeanor were as much at issue in terms of his future signability as was his bball ability."

(A) As far as I'm concerned it's not a character issue, it's a basketball issue. I don't think his being concerned about whether he'll have a career after this season makes him a bad guy; but the fact remains there are legitimate reasons why that concern could be to the detriment of the Wizards team. (B) He played 4 games last season (for Washington). Can't make any meaningful conclusions based on that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

I believe the new owner thinks that EG and Flip are good, capable basketball people.

However, he also seemed to indicate that they probably have about two years to develop a good, young team that is on the rise. Otherwise he would likely go in a different direction.

Posted by: cannontl | July 12, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

I know it's sometimes considered bad form around WI to actually look up the answer before commenting, but Adam isn't that good an outside shooter. Probably not fair to judge him based on the occasional appearance at LA last season, but when he has gotten a little time on the court (as in his two Charlotte stints), his 3 point percentage hovers around 34%. When his minutes are restricted, as in LA, it drops into the twenties. Career FG%: 37.3.

By comparison:
Al Thornton 2009 FG 44.8%, 3Pt 35.5%
Josh Howard 2009 FG 40.5%, 3Pt 26.7%

Rumor has it Josh Howard signs with the Celts this week if they can work out a sign and trade with the Wiz. He'd replace Tony Allen who went to Memphis.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 12, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Did you even watch any of the games when he coached?

Yes, Ernie made him head coach and Abe hired Ernie so please spare me the I'm only negative crap.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Tapscott was the INTERIM coach. A space holder because they couldn't give it to who they wanted to. It doesn't take much to see Tapscott wasn't HIRED to come be the coach.

I guess when the Wizards do something every other team that fired a coach in season does...it's a sign of incompetence.

Do you know his record as a scout or a personnel guy? Or does that not matter?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Do you know his record as a scout or a personnel guy? Or does that not matter?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse


Based on the lack of players other then Wall....Yes, he and Ernie suck.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Your points about players I don't like would be valid if MeTawn and Gilby worked out, but they haven't. Do yourself a favor and look up and down the roster over the past few seasons and let me know if you see any FA acquisitions or draft picks that have worked out for EG.

Posted by: DC_MAN88

Oy. It doesn't take a genius (and I'm gathering you're not a genius) to know that the team was a disaster for the past two seasons. But that's not what you're doing, you're just automatically assessing everything they do or don't do as a mistake before the results are in. Somehow the contracts given to AJ and Gil mean that not overspending to get your pet project Childress is a mistake. Which of course, to you, it is.

EG must have made a mistake. Because if EG had just offered him the same contract and same deal to Atlanta as Phoenix, Childress obviously would have come here. Or if not, EG should absolutely have upped the ante on his contract until he came here. So really, while decrying the overspending on Gil and AJ, you're advocating they overspend to bring in Childress. Lock the team into a 5 year / $40M-45M contract, while also not knowing what the new CBA might bring. And of course, you say all of those brilliant things without knowing anything about what EG might have offered. So without knowing what EG did or didn't do, you automatically assess he did something wrong. Brilliant logic.

Should I put it in bold? Would that help you?

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"Did you even watch any of the games when he coached?

Yes, Ernie made him head coach and Abe hired Ernie so please spare me the I'm only negative crap.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse "

He was the INTERIM head coach. His job was to assess the talent on the roster. But, yes, you're only negative. Never seen you say a positive thing. You are the lowest form of internet coward who sits in the dark and yells about how everyone sucks. Do you contribute ANYTHING to society outside of bitterness and hatred?

Posted by: IrenePollin | July 12, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

What is Grunfeld's fascination with former high first round picks who have turned out to be busts or journeymen? (Morrison, Yi, Miller, Foye, Livingston, etc.). It's as if Grunfeld did his research on players the year they come out, then completely disregards what they actually do in the NBA... trading and signing for them like he's on the clock in the Lottery.

Can we now label the Miller and Foye trade, our whole 2009 draft for that matter, a complete and utter ESPN F draft grade bust? How nice it would have been to have Stephen Curry spot up for Wall, or Derozan to run with him. Well, I guess Miller did play a couple good games for us before his injuries.

Posted by: SammyT1 | July 12, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"Oy. It doesn't take a genius (and I'm gathering you're not a genius) to know that the team was a disaster for the past two seasons. But that's not what you're doing, you're just automatically assessing everything they do or don't do as a mistake before the results are in. Somehow the contracts given to AJ and Gil mean that not overspending to get your pet project Childress is a mistake. Which of course, to you, it is.

EG must have made a mistake. Because if EG had just offered him the same contract and same deal to Atlanta as Phoenix, Childress obviously would have come here. Or if not, EG should absolutely have upped the ante on his contract until he came here. So really, while decrying the overspending on Gil and AJ, you're advocating they overspend to bring in Childress. Lock the team into a 5 year / $40M-45M contract, while also not knowing what the new CBA might bring. And of course, you say all of those brilliant things without knowing anything about what EG might have offered. So without knowing what EG did or didn't do, you automatically assess he did something wrong. Brilliant logic.

Should I put it in bold? Would that help you?

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse "

Before the results are in?

I've predicted results before they were in.

You must not be paying attention as usual.

Nobody knows what EG offered him.

What we do know is that EG has failed to bring in a quality veteran.

Next thing we'll hear about is how a player was on the top of their wish list and how EG was successful in getting him here.

Yes, that was Oberto last season.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Can we now label the Miller and Foye trade, our whole 2009 draft for that matter, a complete and utter ESPN F draft grade bust? How nice it would have been to have Stephen Curry spot up for Wall, or Derozan to run with him. Well, I guess Miller did play a couple good games for us before his injuries.

Posted by: SammyT1

But what if having Curry or DeRozan means we don't have Wall?

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

(A) As far as I'm concerned it's not a character issue, it's a basketball issue. I don't think his being concerned about whether he'll have a career after this season makes him a bad guy; but the fact remains there are legitimate reasons why that concern could be to the detriment of the Wizards team. (B) He played 4 games last season (for Washington). Can't make any meaningful conclusions based on that.

Posted by: kalo_rama

I was talking about character on the floor, which is essentially the same as your 'b-ball issue.' As in, is he going to play selfish b-ball or team b-ball. In his short stint, he played team ball and by all accounts helped to lead the young guys. No way to know if that would return or last, but it is what it is. Since disciplinary issues were part of the reason for his exit from Dallas, he may understand that being a good citizen on and off the court, being willing to mentor youngsters and demonstrating good team play may be as much a part of his signability as his scoring average. No way to know for sure. Not that it's an either / or, but between the risk of Howard and signing Morrison, I'll risk Howard.

But it may be moot anyway, because if the Celts or Bulls offer a contract, not sure the Wizards would be willing to offer enough more to get him to stay. Nor should they probably.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

ESPN3 will be streaming the game for those paying for NBA TV but forced to watch CSN. Yes, I'm bitter about that.

Posted by: djnnnou | July 12, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

IrenePollin

He was the INTERIM head coach. His job was to assess the talent on the roster.

And considering the year they had after he was the INTERIM head coach I would say he sucked since he and Ernie thought trading the 5th pick for MM and Foye was going to put them over the top.

Never seen you say a positive thing.

Other then wall what is there to be positive about?

You are the lowest form of internet coward who sits in the dark and yells about how everyone sucks.

If you go to the Steelers blog...

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/

you would see I say plenty of good things...

But, maybe that's becasue they are a winning organization?

Do you contribute ANYTHING to society outside of bitterness and hatred?

Sure, but that's my personal life and this is a blog.

It's like the way I use to write about Abe as the owner which is different then Abe the man.

I know it's hard for you to understand the difference?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | July 12, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

"I was talking about character on the floor, which is essentially the same as your 'b-ball issue.' "

Not quite:

It definitely would be a concern, the one thing that mitigates it is that he was in essentially the same situation coming to the Wiz this year, and while granted in a very, very short stint, showed good character at least on the floor.
Maybe the impetus would be less a year removed, but he seemed to understand that his character and demeanor were as much at issue in terms of his future signability as was his bball ability.

Both of those statements make it quite clear (at least to me) that you were addressing issues off-court character as well as issues of basketball and putting both into ply in your evaluation of Howard. And, as I said, I don't think his character is at issue at all here, just as I didn't think so when the trade was announced and people pissed and moaned about him being a pot smoker and not standing for the National Anthem (some of the same people, I might add, who were kissing his feet after the first couple of games he played). It is only a basketball issue as far as I'm concerned and, from a basketball standpoint, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

"Can we now label the Miller and Foye trade, our whole 2009 draft for that matter, a complete and utter ESPN F draft grade bust? How nice it would have been to have Stephen Curry spot up for Wall, or Derozan to run with him. Well, I guess Miller did play a couple good games for us before his injuries."

You do realize that changing the past alters the future, right? All of those decisions you so hated from a year ago were part and parcel of the Wiz ending up with the #1 pick. So either vent your irrational resentment for the Foye/Miller deal or revel in the joy of getting the #1 pick. Can't have both.

Posted by: kalo_rama | July 12, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

You must not be paying attention as usual.
Posted by: DC_MAN88

Of course not, why should I be the only one? Isn't that why you bold stuff, because you're not getting enough attention?

What we do know is that EG has failed to bring in a quality veteran.

Well, Kirk Hinrich would likely disagree, but putting that aside, we do know that his owner, the one who signs the checks, has no interest in spending big FA dollars. We also know that the same owner has put the emphasis on building a young talent base, especially through the draft. So perhaps signing a free agent to more than they're worth for longer than they should isn't in their plans for this year. So maybe that's not 'failed', maybe that's Working As Intended.

Next thing we'll hear about is how a player was on the top of their wish list and how EG was successful in getting him here.

I'm sorry, what team doesn't play that game? What team says, "Well this guy was pretty far down our list, but he was cheap." Or "We really wanted another guy, but he went to a team willing to pay him a ludicrous amount which they'll regret later."

When the Cavs sign a Small Forward at some point this offseason are they going to say "Hey we really like this guy and we feel like he gives us a chance to compete this year" or are they going to say "Well, LeBron screwed us over, so we signed this guy, because he was available and well, willing to sign with us."

But I forgot, I'm talking to the architect behind the Amare, David Lee, Harrington, Chandler, Duhon dynasty.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

But I forgot, I'm talking to the architect behind the Amare, David Lee, Harrington, Chandler, Duhon dynasty.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

LMAO...classic.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

That's what I'm talking about with McGee on that break. Do the SIMPLE thing. Give it to the PG...he's gonna lob it right back to you.

YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS RUNNING THE BREAK.

Then getting faked out of your socks twice in 5 seconds on defense on the next possesion...

Come on JaVale...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kalo_rama

OMG, what a massive flaming strawman!!!!!

Sorry, just trying it on for size. It comes off just as silly when I write it. And what is it with people and bold text today? I mean, bold text, italics, and blockquotes? Isn't that overkill?

Both of those statements make it quite clear (at least to me) that you were addressing issues off-court character as well as issues of basketball and putting both into ply in your evaluation of Howard.

......aaaaaand you would be wrong. When I say "he showed good character at least on the floor." that means as opposed to off-the-floor which we didn't hear anything about, so I can't speak to that. So I was just clarifying that I was only speaking about his on-court character. It also should have been clear based on the context of the conversation which dealt with having some vets on the floor to moderate the play of the youngsters.

It is only a basketball issue as far as I'm concerned and, from a basketball standpoint, I'm not sure he'd be a good fit.

And when you speak of 'a basketball issue' are you speaking of his propensity to go to his left, or pull up for a three? Or are you speaking of being concerned that he might be playing in a way to make himself look better instead of playing for the team? I would (and did) call that his 'character and demeanor' on the court.

It would be like if I went back a few posts and isolated and bolded your use of the word "mentor" and said, clearly mentoring indicates off-the-court involvement as well. But based on the context, I was able to conclude that that was not what you meant.

But whatever, as I also said, it's likely moot.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Wizards sign C Hylton Armstrong to a 1 yr deal. Good or bad move? Anyone know the tape on this guy?

Posted by: zack5 | July 12, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Sigh. Nik Caner-Medley just ball-faked McGee into next week. That's depressing. You have to wonder if Nik yelled "I'm from Maryland and nobody can beat me" while he was doing it.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Wizards sign C Hylton Armstrong to a 1 yr deal. Good or bad move? Anyone know the tape on this guy?

Posted by: zack5

Ok move. Good size, but he's been a career back-up or back-up back-up. Still young-ish, 26. Part of the UConn team that George Mason took out in the tourney I believe. Not particularly tough or good defensively.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"Of course not, why should I be the only one? Isn't that why you bold stuff, because you're not getting enough attention?

Well, Kirk Hinrich would likely disagree, but putting that aside, we do know that his owner, the one who signs the checks, has no interest in spending big FA dollars. We also know that the same owner has put the emphasis on building a young talent base, especially through the draft. So perhaps signing a free agent to more than they're worth for longer than they should isn't in their plans for this year. So maybe that's not 'failed', maybe that's Working As Intended.

I'm sorry, what team doesn't play that game? What team says, "Well this guy was pretty far down our list, but he was cheap." Or "We really wanted another guy, but he went to a team willing to pay him a ludicrous amount which they'll regret later."

When the Cavs sign a Small Forward at some point this offseason are they going to say "Hey we really like this guy and we feel like he gives us a chance to compete this year" or are they going to say "Well, LeBron screwed us over, so we signed this guy, because he was available and well, willing to sign with us."

But I forgot, I'm talking to the architect behind the Amare, David Lee, Harrington, Chandler, Duhon dynasty.

Posted by: ts35 | July 12, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse "

Apparently I'm getting enough attention from you.

Kirk Hinrich...worth every penny of his contract which is why Chicago let him go.

And with EG's track record, this FA acquisition should prove once again to be a steal.

If Leonsis was serious about building a young talent base, then EG is not hte GM to do that. Judge him by his draft history.

WRT Oberto, it's not about "who doesn't play that game." GM's aren't paid to play those games where they bring people in just to see prove they were busts. A GM's job is to find a player that can contribute, and unfortunately, EG looked more like a fool b/c Oberto did the exact opposite of what EG hyped him up to be.

And please, don't try to correlate what EG did with Oberto and what you think the Cavs will do to hype whomever they bring in. EG already had the big "3," so there was no unnecessary hype/marketing needed to fool people. The Cavs on the otherhand, don't have a bankable star, so of course they're going to have to spin it. Duh!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record...what did they say Oberto would do that he didn't do?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 12, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=4691

After EG was spurned by Rasho Nesterovic, EG comes out and says that Oberto was his first FA big man of choice.

Whoo whee...what a signing Oberto was!

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/7/23/960783/fabricio-oberto-is-a-washington

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 12, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

dcman wanted to draft Brian Zoubek, that alone should speak volume for his eye for talent.

LOL

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 12, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Apparently I'm getting enough attention from you.
Posted by: DC_MAN88

Well, I was concerned that your bold textedness and general demeanor were cries for help.

Kirk Hinrich...worth every penny of his contract which is why Chicago let him go.

And Childress was so valuable that the Hawks let him leave the country. Shame we missed out on that.

And with EG's track record, this FA acquisition should prove once again to be a steal.

Want to go through his entire FA record with the Wiz, or just cherry-pick the ones you don't like?

If Leonsis was serious about building a young talent base, then EG is not the GM to do that. Judge him by his draft history.

First, I have never said I want EG to lead this team going forward, I just dislike relentlessly negative people who draw straight lines that don't exist just to reach the conclusions they want to. Say, like starting a statement like "If Leonsis was serious about building a young talent base...."

All of that being said, EG's draft record is about average.

WRT Oberto, it's not about "who doesn't play that game." GM's aren't paid to play those games where they bring people in just to see prove they were busts. A GM's job is to find a player that can contribute, and unfortunately, EG looked more like a fool b/c Oberto did the exact opposite of what EG hyped him up to be.

See? This is what I'm talking about. They brought in Fab to be a back-up, which they said. They wanted a vet, with playoff experience to back-up Haywood, McGee, AJ and Blatche. And they wanted someone who fit into their salary structure, which was a pretty slim slot. Did I miss the part where they announced him as a starter? They talked him up a bit at his signing press conference, but did I miss the John Wall-esque welcome? Did Abe provide cake? What part of his role as the fourth or fifth big man did he not fill to your satisfaction?

Here's the video, I would say watch it, but you're only going to come out saying the same misconstrued things you've been saying.

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/oberto_090811.html

There's a metric ton of things to criticize this team for and EG for before you get to Oberto. To paraphrase Rick Pitino, it's not like Tim Duncan was walking through that door.

Posted by: ts35 | July 13, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

After EG was spurned by Rasho Nesterovic, EG comes out and says that Oberto was his first FA big man of choice.

And what was he hyped up to be? He augmented the frontcourt. Oberto was signed to be a bench guy. A 3rd C/Backup PF.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 13, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

FYI, -88,

The Wiz signed Hilton Armstrong. I'm sure you know he's not a great player. But I just want to warn you that EG and Flip will probably say nice things about him at his intro press conference. They're not expecting him to be an All-Star. I just want to make sure you're not confused.....again.

Posted by: ts35 | July 13, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

The Wizards have an interesting team. Arenas is a good comparison for Wade. Blatche is a good comparison for Bosh. John Wall can create mismatches against anyone. Booker is a no nonsense go after it beast. McGee is showing rebounding, blocks, and put backs. That is a very respectable starting five. Hienrich has great talent offensively and defensively. Add some beef and possibly another shotmaker and you have a really good team to contend with anyone. Arenas didn't go down in ability he just lost his mind. Thornton, Howard, Young, Ndiyae, Pettway, and Turner have some experience and talent. This is the most all around team we have had in a while. Brenda got his contract, Jameson and Butler couldn't carry the load, and Stephenson never made it. Livingston would be nice but we are well stocked at guard. Kevin Seraphin may come in at some time and contribute, if he is as good as the other youngsters, then watch out.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | July 13, 2010 2:19 AM | Report abuse

"FYI, -88,

The Wiz signed Hilton Armstrong. I'm sure you know he's not a great player. But I just want to warn you that EG and Flip will probably say nice things about him at his intro press conference. They're not expecting him to be an All-Star. I just want to make sure you're not confused.....again.

Posted by: ts35 | July 13, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse "

The only person confused is you. As you admit that Hilton Armstrong is not a good player and of course, not an all star, then why bother signing him?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 13, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

"And what was he hyped up to be? He augmented the frontcourt. Oberto was signed to be a bench guy. A 3rd C/Backup PF.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 13, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse "

The only thing that was augmented was Oberto's bank account. To say that a guy was on the top of your FA list for a big man, and then he comes here with a heart condition and makes zero impact in helping your team to the lottery, well....nothing more needs to be said.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 13, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

"dcman wanted to draft Brian Zoubek, that alone should speak volume for his eye for talent.

LOL

Posted by: dcinmd1 | July 12, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse "

Zoubek at least has size/bulk and helped his team win the NCAA championship. What have N'Diaye and Seraphin done? Oh, I forgot...the all important "upside." Really, EG needs it upside his head. LOL!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 13, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Well, I was concerned that your bold textedness and general demeanor were cries for help.

Not really cries for help, but help for you to wake up and learn something about basketball.

And Childress was so valuable that the Hawks let him leave the country. Shame we missed out on that.

Hinrich has nothing to do with Childress. And Childress left voluntarily. Interesting though, an NBA team decided to pay him big money this season. I guess he is valuable. Les BouleS missed out on that. EG even tried to acquire him, but why would he want to come here?

Want to go through his entire FA record with the Wiz, or just cherry-pick the ones you don't like?

What is there to like? With EG, his FA's are easy come easy go. No lasting building blocks to playoff success. Go look for yourself. Wake up.

First, I have never said I want EG to lead this team going forward, I just dislike relentlessly negative people who draw straight lines that don't exist just to reach the conclusions they want to. Say, like starting a statement like "If Leonsis was serious about building a young talent base...."

Not negative. Just realistic. EG has had too many chances her to f things up.

All of that being said, EG's draft record is about average.

Factor in his draft record and his FA acquisition record, and EG should never manage an NBA team again.

See? This is what I'm talking about. They brought in Fab to be a back-up, which they said. They wanted a vet, with playoff experience to back-up Haywood, McGee, AJ and Blatche. And they wanted someone who fit into their salary structure, which was a pretty slim slot. Did I miss the part where they announced him as a starter? They talked him up a bit at his signing press conference, but did I miss the John Wall-esque welcome? Did Abe provide cake? What part of his role as the fourth or fifth big man did he not fill to your satisfaction?

Clearly Rasho was on the top of his list, but Rasho turned Les BouleS down. If Oberto was the top of his list, and Oberto turned out to be a bust, then what does that say about EG? Think about it.

Here's the video, I would say watch it, but you're only going to come out saying the same misconstrued things you've been saying.

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/oberto_090811.html

Oberto's acquisition was a joke, plain and simple.

There's a metric ton of things to criticize this team for and EG for before you get to Oberto. To paraphrase Rick Pitino, it's not like Tim Duncan was walking through that door.

Posted by: ts35 | July 13, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse "

Apparently, once again, your not paying attention. I've already criticized EG in other areas. Oberto's acquisition, and the BS provided by EG, was just laughable.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 13, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Oberto did what he was supposed to. It was said before the season if Oberto ends up playing big minutes...the Wizards are in trouble.

So what makes Oberto "worthy" of being signed? averaging 20/10? That's not what he does. He's someone that does what McGee doesn't want to do. Good passer, set great picks and doesn't shy away from contact.

You're acting like they signed him to be star or something.

You can't say "EG lied about him being at the top of the list" then turn around and say "EG had him at the top of the list and he was a bust"

You can't even sell yourself your own BS.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 13, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"You do realize that changing the past alters the future, right? All of those decisions you so hated from a year ago were part and parcel of the Wiz ending up with the #1 pick. So either vent your irrational resentment for the Foye/Miller deal or revel in the joy of getting the #1 pick. Can't have both."

Settle down, Michael J. Fox. Maybe it would have altered the space-time continuum, maybe not. But I would certainly have rather had Curry AND Evans, or Johnson, or Favors or Cousins than just to have John Wall. As for irrational resentment, did you watch the Wiz play last year... or the last 30 years for that matter. Any resentment is both highly rational and hard-earned ;)

Posted by: SammyT1 | July 13, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Settle down, Michael J. Fox. Maybe it would have altered the space-time continuum, maybe not. But I would certainly have rather had Curry AND Evans, or Johnson, or Favors or Cousins than just to have John Wall.

Wait...how were we gonna get Curry and Evans?

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Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 13, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Armstrong is actually not bad if her returns to his first year form when he was a decent shotblocker. Hamade and Hilton look to split up back up duty to McGee and I dont think they are going to have Seraphin play this year at all save the D league or overseas. Thornton is your starting 3 and played well at that spot when we had a decent two guard in Howard. He is quick can defend other 3's and is stronger than other 3s for post ups. Booker is his back up 3 and possibly Morrison. But booker can play both the 3 and 4 and give rebounding and toughness at both spots tho undersized at one. The Armstrong and morrison signings are just added depth the starting 5 and back ups are already solidified. Basically these are your back up back ups and so thats why he only get the 900 gran minimum. Morrison will likely get a 2 year deal with about 3 mil.

Posted by: Gusdaberean1 | July 13, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

dcman wanted to draft Brian Zoubek, that alone should speak volume for his eye for talent.

LOL

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YES, give me Zoubek at a 2nd rounders salary over EG signing another washed-up player. At-least Zoubek is a proven rebounder and hard-worker who can bang in the post. Im surprised EG didnt try to get Kwame.

Posted by: closg | July 13, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"Oberto did what he was supposed to. It was said before the season if Oberto ends up playing big minutes...the Wizards are in trouble.

So what makes Oberto "worthy" of being signed? averaging 20/10? That's not what he does. He's someone that does what McGee doesn't want to do. Good passer, set great picks and doesn't shy away from contact.

You're acting like they signed him to be star or something.

You can't say "EG lied about him being at the top of the list" then turn around and say "EG had him at the top of the list and he was a bust"

You can't even sell yourself your own BS.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | July 13, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse "

Not only does your BS stink, but so does your milder stuff.

Oberto did nothing for Les BouleS, but EG hyped him as a key ingredient and the big man he wanted. Wanted for what? Oberto did nothing. Better off just not wasting that money.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | July 13, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

CAN WE SAY NO BUT HELL NO.

Posted by: rnbrown4 | July 13, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Fascinating comments here.. Hilton Armstrong is better than Kwame Brown? Thoughts?

Posted by: RedCherokee | July 14, 2010 3:13 AM | Report abuse

"Wait...how were we gonna get Curry and Evans? =\"

I meant Evan, as in Turner, apologies...

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