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Wizards announce 2010 preseason schedule

The Wizards will host two preseason games at Verizon Center -- Oct. 12 against the Atlanta Hawks and Oct. 14 against the Milwaukee Bucks.

The two home games are part of a seven-game preseason schedule that begins at Dallas on Oct. 5. Washington also will play at Cleveland on Oct. 7, at Chicago on Oct. 8 and at New York against the Knicks on Oct. 17. The Wizards conclude their preseason in Toledo, Ohio, on Oct. 19 against the Detroit Pistons.

The Wizards open their regular season Oct. 28 at Orlando. That game at the new Amway Center will be televised nationally on TNT.

The entire regular season schedule will be announced on Aug. 10, the team said.

By Washington Post Sports  |  August 4, 2010; 1:49 PM ET
 
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J McGee is back on the FIBA squad since Lopez has withdrawn, according to news report.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/08/04/lopez.usa.ap/index.html

Posted by: jweber1 | August 4, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

This was the right move from the beginning since he out practiced/played Lopez all camp...Sorry to hear Lopez was sick though I would have liked JMcGee to have earned the spot straight out. He will actually be a good addition if he makes the team because you can knock the ball off the rim in international ball without it being a goal tend and he would be more productive in that role then Chandler would be!

JMcGee just rebound, block shots, run the floor (he'll be the fastest and most athletic center out there), and get easy put backs !

Posted by: SkinzFan4lyfe | August 4, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

i'm not really sure why they were so set on Lopez to begin with, just in terms of what K has been saying the team will be about (defense, running, scoring off blocks/TOs/mistakes) and what they say Lopez brings to the table (excellent post scoring, weak defense/rebounding).

Wasnt Rod Thorn head of USA bball before being Nets prez, and now Colangelo is set to take over the Nets job?

HMMMMMMMMM, no wonder Lopez was locked in!

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm just amazed that jweber1 had to be the one to break the story here. As soon as I heard the news, I figured I'd see something on Wiz Insider.

uhhh no.

Posted by: original_mark | August 4, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

While I am happy for McGee, I wish we had better players than him and Chandler at center for our International team! Realistically unless we have superior players we will lose to better prepared team including Greece, Spain, Argentina, Serbia and Germany.

Posted by: rickgonz | August 4, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I think the situation is going to allow us see something on JM.I hope he understand what he has to do if he gets the chance.

Posted by: gtefferra | August 4, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"While I am happy for McGee, I wish we had better players than him and Chandler at center for our International team! Realistically unless we have superior players we will lose to better prepared team including Greece, Spain, Argentina, Serbia and Germany."

Posted by: rickgonz | August 4, 2010 4:12 PM

Thinking they could overcome lack of preparation, commitment, and chemistry and win by overwhelming with raw physical talent is what resulted in Team USA getting embarrassed in the Worlds in 2002 and the Olympics in 2004. They don't need a critical mass of talent. What they need are guys who are committed to playing smart disciplined ball as a unit, within the system. Which is why I have my doubts about how effective McGee will be (if he actually makes the final roster).

Posted by: kalo_rama | August 4, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

They don't need a critical mass of talent. What they need are guys who are committed to playing smart disciplined ball as a unit, within the system.
Posted by: kalo_rama

That is definitely true, but rickgonz's point still holds to a certain extent, because the better teams the US will be facing are a lot more experienced playing with each other than any US team made up of pros will be, so it behooves us to have as much superior talent as possible to offset that. We saw in the Olympics that even with our top players commitetd to playing a disciplined system, there were certain teams that could still give them a run for their money.

The one break the US team will get is that a lot of the best players for international teams who play in the NBA are also sitting this one out.

Posted by: ts35 | August 4, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

we will lose to better prepared team including Greece, Spain, Argentina, Serbia and Germany.

Posted by: rickgonz | August 4, 2010 4:12 PM

Are they that much better prepared? Our guys are putting in plenty of work with CoachK, the days of '04 are long gone. Turkey will be interesting, all the top tier teams are missing their best players. No DWade, Kobe, Lebron, Dirk, Pau, Yao, Manu, etc etc

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"We saw in the Olympics that even with our top players commitetd to playing a disciplined system, there were certain teams that could still give them a run for their money."

I dont know about that, we destroyed everyone at the Olympics until the Gold Medal game. And in that scenario just a few days earlier we had been up by like 50pts on Spain and beaten them by 40 ....not surprising the 2nd game was much closer imo, they're an excellent team

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I dont know about that, we destroyed everyone at the Olympics until the Gold Medal game. And in that scenario just a few days earlier we had been up by like 50pts on Spain and beaten them by 40 ....not surprising the 2nd game was much closer imo, they're an excellent team

Posted by: divi3

For some reason, some of those games always seems closer to me in retrospect.

At the same time, that was also about as good of a team as we can field at this point. The current team is very, very good, but not at the same level, at least on paper.

Posted by: ts35 | August 4, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

yeah, that team rivaled the original Dream Team....not sure we'll see the likes of it again, or at least for awhile.

Turkey should be fun, so much riding on Durant and he's what, 21? Will be interesting to see how he responds though it's a safe bet he'll be dominant

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I've been down on JaVale and down on Nick Young. Both have a lot to prove this season or they will most likely continue their careers elsewhere.

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | August 4, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

shaq-fu to boston a done deal...he's so old, but no doubt between Perk, JermaineO, and Shaq nobody is going to be pushing the Cs around the paint. Hell, Shaq laid it on Gasul and Bynum twice last season.

we're gonna need Seraphin!

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

"Celtics fans may get the chance to see how well Shaquille O'Neal's hyperbole and ego mix with a bench role. The Celtics, a source said, have told O'Neal that he has to come off the bench next season, and that O'Neal said he could accept a reserve role for the first time in his career. The three-time NBA finals MVP has not had many suitors this summer that had either the playing time or money to offer him, and O'Neal is running out of places that can give him a chance to compete for a championship as his career draws to a close. Boston was leery of signing O'Neal because if he became unhappy with his role, that unhappiness could pervade the entire team. The Celtics believe this happened with O'Neal in some of his previous stops in recent seasons.
NBA.com"

Posted by: Samson151 | August 4, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

If any team is capable of not putting up with whiny attitudes from players, it's the Celtics. Shaq will fall in line.

Posted by: crs-1 | August 4, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I've been down on JaVale and down on Nick Young. Both have a lot to prove this season or they will most likely continue their careers elsewhere.

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | August 4, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Nick may not have options but Javale will be highly coveted by a host of teams when he is up for free agency. Moreover, the kid has clearly improved over the last half of last year (coinciding with more playing time and non-schizophrenic coaching)and through the Summer League. The Wizards player development department(lol) has been as much at fault with McGee, Young and Blatche's development as these players themselves.

Whether this kid makes the final roster or not, his being a part of Team USA is a definite positive for him and the Wizards. The ability to be in a structured environment and practice with a select group of players will clearly help his basketball skills and more importantly, his confidence. The knuckleheads on this blog seem to be the only basketball experts that have such a negative opinion of McGee.

Posted by: NewManagement | August 4, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Good for McGee. This can only help him prepare for his responsibilities this year as Chandler is injury prone and he will have to stay out of foul trouble to help the World team just as he will to help the Wizards. Hopefully Coach K will get it into his mind that he does not have to block every shot just challenge them by showing and putting his hands up.

Posted by: anacostia85 | August 4, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I agree totally with poster NewManagement. If they had real coaching and consitant playing time these guys would be much improved. Instead playing the fake 3 so much these 3 should have been getting time. Thank goodness the trade forced Flipper to have to play Blatche and McGee. The sad part is he still dogged Young. Where is our player development at. Ernie hire a big man coach to work with your young bigs. Flipper is an assistant at best and to add his son and keep Unseld Jr. around is a disgrace.

Posted by: rnbrown4 | August 4, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

"The knuckleheads on this blog seem to be the only basketball experts that have such a negative opinion of McGee.Posted by: NewManagement"

Now, be fair: as far as the knucklehead category, you'd have to include anyone who didn't see how much work remained for somebody like Javale McGee to become a really good player.

Don't be fooled by the Summer League stats or this berth on the international squad: Javale isn't there because he's an intelligent, well-rounded, mature NBA player who earned his spot. He's there because the other big men (1) didn't want to play, 2) weren't healthy, or 3) encountered some other barrier like insurability (Stoudemire).

He's a big talent with pronounced weaknesses in his game. Summer League notwithstanding.

This blog apparently isn't home only to critics -- there's a contingent of enablers, too.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 4, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

McGee, McGee, he's my man, if he can't do it Lopez can. ArghAwAw "nobody can".

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | August 4, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

John Thompson had an interesting take on Lopez bowing out. From experience he indicates that Lopez bowing out went far beyond the fact of him having Mono.

He says that when players bow out it has more to do with the realization by the player that the commitment required is too high for player in question.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | August 4, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

What's up with the coverage on the "Insider"?? I feel like I am getting all my Wizards news from other sources. Shouldn't this be the place to check and get updates such as the Javale update? Maybe Mike is on vacation. I know if this was my job I would be pumping out more stuff than "Was Josh Howard a Steal"

Posted by: LooseCannon1 | August 4, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

"The knuckleheads on this blog seem to be the only basketball experts that have such a negative opinion of McGee.Posted by: NewManagement" (Is that you, Ted?)

I do believe that the McGee haters will be eating their words in a couple of years. We've all sort of grown up with him over the past few years, so we've been watching his baby steps. But he's taking some big strides now. He's on the right track, and staying here for a long time.

Posted by: zinger1 | August 4, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Don't be fooled by the Summer League stats or this berth on the international squad: Javale isn't there because he's an intelligent, well-rounded, mature NBA player who earned his spot. He's there because the other big men (1) didn't want to play, 2) weren't healthy, or 3) encountered some other barrier like insurability (Stoudemire).

Posted by: Samson151 | August 4, 2010 8:52 PM

None of which takes anything away from the fact that he is there. And if he makes the team and does well and the team wins, there will not be any asterisks by his name.

It would be called his good fortune. You heard me.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | August 4, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

"Nick may not have options but Javale will be highly coveted by a host of teams when he is up for free agency. Moreover, the kid has clearly improved over the last half of last year (coinciding with more playing time and non-schizophrenic coaching)and through the Summer League. The Wizards player development department(lol) has been as much at fault with McGee, Young and Blatche's development as these players themselves."

The only schizophrenic here is you or, perhaps, you are just merely delusional in thinking JM has "clearly improved". He still gets faked out of the gym, he still has very little court sense, he still has no go to move beyond the alley-oop dunk, and he still has no endurance. In short, he is the EXACT same player he was when he entered the league - raw and athletic. Players of his ilk take 5/6/7 years of seasoning before they produce a reliable return in the NBA. Not to mention, you seem to be basing your observation on summer league ball and getting invited to the Team USA camp, which is exactly what happened last season - a good summer league and an invitation.

And, I'm done with the idiotic argument that the Wiz somehow don't develop talent as well as most teams in the league. Pure nonsense. Last I checked, AB was a late 2nd rounder who put up all-star caliber numbers for 30 games last season. So, was that all on AB or did the coaching kick in extra well for just him??? The fact is that the NBA is filled with talent and the means by which to hone your craft. The best "means" in the world. So, that argument is absolutely bogus.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 4, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

rphill, thank you for talking some sense. I've never seen a player with his height and athleticism have so much difficulty getting his shot off.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 4, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know where training camp is going to be. Leonsis floated the idea of George Mason, which would be awesome.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | August 4, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

"Last I checked, AB was a late 2nd rounder who put up all-star caliber numbers for 30 games last season."

Organization tried to turn him into a Center for years and had the team won a few more games last year, Blatche would be staring down another season of backing up AJ. I wouldnt throw too much credit the organization's direction for ABs development.

Posted by: divi3 | August 4, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt throw too much credit the organization's direction for ABs development.

Posted by: divi3

That's right. Because everyone knows he re-dedicated himself last offseason and became 7-day Dray........after getting chewed out by his Mom. So any and all props go to Mrs. Blatche.

Be fair. AB has always had talent, but hasn't always delivered. I found this clip on truthaboutit.net. Sounds like there is plenty of blame and credit to go to all sides for AB's development.

"From becoming ‘Seven Day Dray’, to switching jersey numbers, to discussing improved working conditions under Flip Saunders (as opposed to Eddie Jordan), to late night practice sessions with Sam Cassell, to talking about being more consistent, to even getting inspiration from his mom, Blatche has displayed more focus on the court this season."

(apologies, I couldn't figure out how to embed the URLs in the text)
http://www.truthaboutit.net/2009/07/praise-flip-but-dont-blame-eddie-looking-at-andray-blatche.html

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2009/10/wizards-thursday-practice-video-andray-blatches-late-night-workout.html

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2009/09/andray-blatche-aims-to-be-consistently-consistent.html

http://www.hoopsaddict.com/washington-wizards-media-day/

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/01/flip-saunders-wants-andray-blatche-to-be-low-post-scorer.html

For some who like to shower the criticism on Flip (and I'm not saying there isn't a healthy bit that's warranted) reading the pre-season evaluation from truthaboutit that seems to cast Flip's style as more friendly to young players may either make you laugh so hard you tear up, or actually want to cry, but it's interesting reading in retrospect regardless.

But suffice to say, AB's emergence is mostly to AB's credit and some credit to the organization, and the slow, winding path to AB's emergence is also mostly on AB and some on the organization.

Posted by: ts35 | August 4, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

The knuckleheads on this blog seem to be the only basketball experts that have such a negative opinion of McGee.

Posted by: NewManagement | August 4, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

McGee is incapable of holding his position against any big man who isn’t a toothpick. Sure his arms look bigger this summer, but it’s his legs that need to get bigger. If that doesn’t occur then he is simply an energy guy off the bench for his entire career.

Don’t the McGee supporters understand that he is often pulled from games because he is getting pushed all over the place? In fact having him as our starting center is Ernie’s secret strategy to make sure we have a high draft pick next year! Lol…

Posted by: MeviousMan | August 5, 2010 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Again, more mumbo jumbo rubbish. AB was a diamond in the rough draft pick that has slowly developed his skills within the organization with which he started. He has the same "means" to work he has had since day one - personal trainers, nutritionists, coaching anytime he wants it or even when he doesn't, world class weight rooms, film of everything, etc etc etc.... Playing center for a little while, not getting starters minutes earlier in his career, yada yada yada... is all just noise. The fact is he and the organization worked together and he is developing and maturing FINALLY. Fingers crossed still!

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2010 1:50 AM | Report abuse

McGee is what he is - raw and athletic. He is getting all the coaching etc he can handle. He is just one of those players that may turn into an all-star or a near all-star caliber player in 2 or 3 years. He may not improve that much from what we see today. Like I said, he is a 5/6/7 year type player before we will know the answer to that question. I've said that in here since the first time I saw him play. And, his physical talents will keep all teams interest until he finally "pans out" one way or another unlike say NY who is about a dime a dozen in the NBA.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

@Mevious,

You're leaving out the big fact that most in here completely gloss over when whining about how much playing time JM should or shouldn't get. HE HAS NO ENDURANCE! It's part of the reason why he impacts the game in short bursts and virtually never over an extended period of time. Now, the team did release a statement last season that said he has struggled with asthma at times, which takes some of the blame off of him. And, the good news is endurance and even asthma improves as you get older - usually (I had it myself and don't any longer). However, that is what worries me particularly this season when you are asking him to carry heavy mins - assuming. We'll see if he can handle it all of a sudden.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 5, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

@rphilli721

My asthma disappeared when I was 5 or 6. Then it returned at age 30.

Posted by: MeviousMan | August 5, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

original_mark:

And I couldn't find any mention of this in today's paper--and no update on Wizards Insider. Kind of strange.

Posted by: jweber1 | August 5, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

original_mark:

And I couldn't find any mention of this in today's paper--and no update on Wizards Insider. Kind of strange.

Posted by: jweber1 | August 5, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid on Blatche just yet. True he put up good numbers after the team was blown up last season. Unfortunately, those numbers were in meaningless games, most of which were losses.

Posted by: randysbailin | August 5, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

"He has the same "means" to work he has had since day one - personal trainers, nutritionists, coaching anytime he wants it or even when he doesn't, world class weight rooms, film of everything, etc etc etc...."

That theory assumes that all weight rooms, trainers, and most importantly, COACHES are created equal. Obviously they're not. You're basically saying that the fact a player is on an nba team immediately puts to rest any concern over their development. Obviously that isnt the case given that teams do things differently and personnel quality varies.

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid on Blatche just yet. True he put up good numbers after the team was blown up last season. Unfortunately, those numbers were in meaningless games, most of which were losses.

Posted by: randysbailin | August 5, 2010 8:16 AM

The same thing can be said about David Lee, Brook Lopez, our boy Yi Jianlin, and pretty much every seemingly good player on a bad team.

Of course, AB only did it for 1/2 season....but it would seem the addition of Wall could improve his play. The thing that worries me is Gil, there's no room for him taking 19 shots a game anymore and if he's allowed to do it we'll be back at square one.

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

JMc is a very big talent about to be realized. Raw yes, but physically gifted.
Please note the wiry legs that DHoward has. Yes his upper body is super, but strong thin legs allow and complement his talent.
McG is not yet a post up player. His nervous energy, which is also a contributing factor to his astmha, prevent him from being a traditional center. But with the addition of Jwall he has the perfect complement to his active energetic inside game.
Defensively once again he is not traditional, but offers intimidating athletic presence.
I love

Posted by: mricklen | August 5, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

I also love NY s game. He so reminds me of a young "Pearl" Monroe.
His whirling dervish style and demeanor are similar to Earl when he arrived.
I have no doubt that if given the minutes, he like AB would average 20+ and his confidence would flourish.
He is a good kid.

Posted by: mricklen | August 5, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

"You're basically saying that the fact a player is on an nba team immediately puts to rest any concern over their development. Obviously that isnt the case given that teams do things differently and personnel quality varies.Posted by: divi3"

Not to pummel the dead horse, but I think the great majority of NBA teams struggle with respect to the development of young players. That was the impetus behind the D-league and the practice of 'stashing' players in Europe -- both have had mixed results. What works with Serge Ibaka apparently doesn't with Oly Pecherov. It's difficult to assign all that blame to the NBA club's coaching staff when the basic problem is lack of time and opportunity to coach. You've got camp and some minor exposure in the off-season but once the real games start you're severely limited by the need to travel and give your team a chance to win. If you've got decent vets in front of the young player, the issue becomes getting him on the court at all. It can be done -- after all, young players do develop -- but it's often not a swift process.

The fans cry "Get that kid on the floor", to which the coach replies, "he ain't ready!" leading the fans to insist "he'll never get ready if'n you don't play him!!" to which the coach replies, "but we need to win some games and he gives us no chance!" to which the fans cry "you're losing anyway!!" and so on and so forth...a circular argument.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

That theory assumes that all weight rooms, trainers, and most importantly, COACHES are created equal. Obviously they're not. You're basically saying that the fact a player is on an nba team immediately puts to rest any concern over their development. Obviously that isnt the case given that teams do things differently and personnel quality varies.
Posted by: divi3

I'll buy the coaches part to a certain extent, but any NBA weight room is going to be sufficient to do whatever a player needs to do. Plus, it doesn't matter what an NBA team has to offer if a player is not going to avail himself of it.

To randysbailin point about drinking the Kool-Aid, I think AB has more than proven that he is a legit offensive player in this league. When he stays within himself -- i.e. not trying to do the behind-the-back dribbles, etc -- which he did a lot better last year, he's capable of being a 20p/8r guy every night. Between the starts he got in 08/09 and 09/10, he has definitely proven that. Now he has to prove he can take it to the next level. And he has to prove (as all players do) that he can still do it when the offense is not just about him as it was for the back half of last year.

It looked like he was on a good pace to do that, based on the work he was putting in (shockingly with the help of the organization!) this offseason. Hopefully it will pay dividends and hopefully his foot injury won't have set him back too much.

Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"And he has to prove (as all players do) that he [Blatche] can still do it when the offense is not just about him as it was for the back half of last year."

I recall the comment from Saunders that they were running 60% of the plays through Andray. That would help explain the sudden surge in his point totals. Wonder how that will change this season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 5, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

"I'll buy the coaches part to a certain extent, but any NBA weight room is going to be sufficient to do whatever a player needs to do. Plus, it doesn't matter what an NBA team has to offer if a player is not going to avail himself of it."

Remember Mike Jones' comment about the day the gun incident went down? He missed the whole episode because he was in the weightroom. Alone.

Agree 100% the players have resources available, but the structure and discpline can be instituted from above or at least attempted to. I'm pretty sure Riley has mandatory conditioning and bodyfat tests to open every camp, and if you fail you are up sh!ts creek as Beasley found.

I've never heard of mandatory conditioning results here, though maybe I missed it.

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I recall the comment from Saunders that they were running 60% of the plays through Andray. That would help explain the sudden surge in his point totals. Wonder how that will change this season.

Posted by: Samson151

True to an extent, but when I went back to 08/09 to those games he started, he was very productive then too, and I don't think ETaps was running the offense through him. But this year will be a bit different for sure, between AB's emergence, Gil's return and Wall's arrival.

Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

ABs what you call a natural, assuming health, I suspect PF will be the least of our worries this year. Can you think of a bad matchup for him across the league? No, I'm not at all suggesting he's the top PF etc etc. Not at all.

But you can go down the list of opponents and quickly see that PF isnt where we'll have issues. Bosh, Boozer, KG, Dirk, ZRandolph, Scola, etc ...at this point he's held his own (or better) against everybody on multiple occasions.

How soon is Wall the same way? Gotta think the future starts to look bright at that point

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Remember Mike [James'] comment about the day the gun incident went down? He missed the whole episode because he was in the weightroom. Alone.

So we're going to take one out of context remark and extrapolate a critique of the Wizards conditioning staff based off of that? C'mon.

Agree 100% the players have resources available, but the structure and discpline can be instituted from above or at least attempted to. I'm pretty sure Riley has mandatory conditioning and bodyfat tests to open every camp, and if you fail you are up sh!ts creek as Beasley found.

And you really think the year they won the title that Shaq and Antoine Walker really passed either of those tests?

I'm not debating that the organization could try to do more or has had problems imposing many kinds of discipline, but it's also not debatable that AB's (and McGee's and Nick's) lack of or slow development is only partly the fault of the organization. At the end of the day, you can only *make* a player do so much. They have to want to. AB coming in at 11:30 to work out with Sam Cassell is not because the organization made him, he wanted to do it (for the first time in his career). There's only so much an organization can make a player do. You cited Riley as an example of good organizational development, and yet Beasley never developed. Organization's fault?

And btw, if you didn't go to that link about AB working out with Cassell, definitely do and check out the intervierw clip with Blatche, it is really funny. He's a funny dude.

Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"And you really think the year they won the title that Shaq and Antoine Walker really passed either of those tests?"

This quote isnt from that year, but still..

"What should you expect from Shaquille O’Neal this season?"

Riley:...He killed his conditioning test. Matter of fact, he did more than what he was supposed to do. I feel good about that part. We just have to wait and see about performance.”


That link is funny, hopefully there are plenty of late nights at VC this season

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"What should you expect from Shaquille O’Neal this season?"

Riley:...He killed his conditioning test. Matter of fact, he did more than what he was supposed to do. I feel good about that part. We just have to wait and see about performance.”

Which either speaks to Shaq's gifts as an athlete, or a low standard for Shaq for the test.

But the Beasley point to me is more telling. Even one of the most notoriously disciplined, demanding and accomplished coaches can't get a player to do something they're not motivated to do on their own.

Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"That theory assumes that all weight rooms, trainers, and most importantly, COACHES are created equal. Obviously they're not. You're basically saying that the fact a player is on an nba team immediately puts to rest any concern over their development. Obviously that isnt the case given that teams do things differently and personnel quality varies."

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 8:47 AM

Most of a player's real improvement comes during the offseason, when he puts in work on his body and his game. Most of what goes on during the season is geared towards honing execution of the game plan in pursuit of winning games. If Blatche--or any player on any team--feels like his development/training needs aren't being met then he has the resources (i.e., money) to seek out and retain the services of his own trainer, conditioning coach, weight facility, nutritionist, etc. All it takes is the will to do so and the commitment to follow through.

Posted by: kalo_rama | August 5, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Here's another example, definitely NOT how this organization has been run (nor most probably)

MIAMI -- Antoine Walker's level of conditioning is still a concern for the Miami Heat, and coach Pat Riley predicted Wednesday it may take the forward until January to meet his team-mandated body fat level.

The issue has been a thorny one for Walker and Riley for the past two seasons. Walker was briefly suspended by Riley last season over body fat measurements and was kept out of the opening day of training camp practice this year for the same reason.

"He's a hard worker. He works every day," Riley said. "He comes to practice every day. Doesn't miss any practices. He's never missed any games. ... He doesn't miss anything. The question is that I'm trying to get him in optimum condition."

And in this case, Riley would define "optimum" as 235 pounds with 7 percent body fat. Riley estimated that Walker weighed 262 pounds with 15 percent body fat at the start of camp and has been slowed by a sore Achilles tendon for the past week."

Obviously he let Walker play, but to publicly state his weight/bodyfat while continually pushing the issue and going as far as suspensions sets a pretty fantastic tone for what the team will be about imo.

Posted by: divi3 | August 5, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Obviously he let Walker play, but to publicly state his weight/bodyfat while continually pushing the issue and going as far as suspensions sets a pretty fantastic tone for what the team will be about imo.
Posted by: divi3

Yeah, it's too bad the Wizards never called out AB publicly or suspended him for anything..........

Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"What should you expect from Shaquille O’Neal this season?"

Riley:...He killed his conditioning test. Matter of fact, he did more than what he was supposed to do. I feel good about that part. We just have to wait and see about performance.”

Which either speaks to Shaq's gifts as an athlete, or a low standard for Shaq for the test.

But the Beasley point to me is more telling. Even one of the most notoriously disciplined, demanding and accomplished coaches can't get a player to do something they're not motivated to do on their own.


Posted by: ts35 | August 5, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

ALBERT HAYNESWORTH?

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 5, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"That theory assumes that all weight rooms, trainers, and most importantly, COACHES are created equal. Obviously they're not. You're basically saying that the fact a player is on an nba team immediately puts to rest any concern over their development. Obviously that isnt the case given that teams do things differently and personnel quality varies."

No...that "theory"/reality assumes that NBA athletes work in one of the most prosperous sports leagues in the world and, therefore, have access to the best the world has to offer for their sport. Even a bad coach in the NBA is still a top coach worldwide. It immediately puts to the rest the notion that somehow NBA franchises hold back or slow down a player's development. Either they got talent and a work ethic or they don't. Either they mature or they don't. It's pretty simple. The number of cases where an athlete's lack of development can be directly attributed to some lackluster franchise or coach or GM or whatever is miniscule to nil. In other words, it's made up in your head and other sports pundit's heads so they can have something to chatter about everyday. The bottom line is you either got the talent and/or the work ethic it takes to be one of the top basketball players in the world or you don't. It's not hand holding grade school or HS basketball anymore Dorothy.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 6, 2010 6:01 AM | Report abuse

Wiz 10/11 Sked Released

http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/sched1011.html

3 of 4 on the road to start off with & the 1st 2 on the road against division opponents. Not & easy thing. Also, I know weve been bad but we still got Flip & the #1 pick in the draft so whats with the lack of National TV games? I dont expect us to get the Heat or Lakers coverage but we couldve gotten a few more. Im guessing it will be a wait & see thing on us. If we play well then they will add a few more as the year goes on. Still shouldve been more though.

Posted by: dlts2041 | August 10, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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