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Yi Jianlian has rough outing for China

John Wall may have been the only member of the Wizards to have a good time at Madison Square Garden on Sunday. JaVale McGee was informed that he had been cut from Team USA hours before it defeated France, 86-55. McGee didn't attend the game, caught a flight back to Los Angeles, vented about basketball reporters who can't play basketball on Twitter, then took liberty with the term "drive-thru" at a McDonald's.


I didn't have too many of these. (NBAE/Getty Images)

Yi Jianlian also had a rather forgettable outing for China, missing 12 of his 15 shot attempts and finishing with 11 points and six rebounds as his team lost, 92-76, to Puerto Rico. Wall spoke to Yi before the game, huddling with his new teammate at a tunnel near the Chinese locker room.

At halftime of the Americans' win over France, I asked Wall about McGee getting cut. Wall said he thought the experience of playing for Team USA was probably good for him and now McGee can focus on helping out the Wizards next season. Wall admitted that he'd like to wear a USA jersey in the near future and said that he was impressed by the sacrifices the players made in order for the U.S. to be successful in Turkey.

As for Yi, he simply missed shots against Puerto Rico. Yi repeatedly found his way to open shots, but couldn't knock them down. He had two thunderous dunks -- midway through the first quarter and late in the fourth quarter, when he had a vicious two-handed rebound put-back. China is not very good, but it really won't be able to do much in the World Championships if its best player isn't shooting well.

"We're really dealing with a young team and Yi Jianlian is the face of our team. He's got to be able deliver for us. He had a rough outing, but we're expecting big things out of him in Turkey," China Coach Robert Donewald said. "He's a high level player. He plays in the NBA and he's a very capable player. It was one of those nights. Thank goodness it's a warmup game and if you're going to miss shots, let it be in a warmup game."

China was playing its third game in four nights, having already lost to Canada in Vancouver on Thursday and to the United States in a closed scrimmage on Saturday. But Yi wouldn't blame his performance on fatigue.

"It's going to be some nights you have bad nights. It's not going to be good every night, no matter who," Yi said. "But you keep fighting, keep playing. That's our focus. This game, you have to fix something up and get ready for the World Championships. That's the time you have to be really good."

Yi said that because his shot wasn't falling, he tried to help out the team in other ways by playing with hustle and aggression. David Thorpe, an ESPN contributor who trained Yi for five weeks at the Pro Training Center in Florida this summer, said that was most active he had seen Yi on the court. Yi dived to the ground for loose balls at least three times, including one exchange when he grabbed the ball from Puerto Rico center Daniel Santiago and made a bounce pass from his knees.

But mostly, he struggled to carry a very young Chinese team that's missing two of its best players in Yao Ming and Zhu Fang Yu. Yi has accepted his role as a team leader, as the former New Jersey Net took his teammates for a walk around New York on Saturday and bought them dinner at a steakhouse.

"Get guys together, talk, have fun, make sure everybody stays on the same page," Yi said of his expensive night out on the town. "I just do as much as I can. I'm the only in the NBA playing for the team this year. We've got some young guys on the team, but we want to win some games in the World Championships."

I spoke briefly with Thorpe, who told me how Yi was one of the hardest workers that he has trained. He said that he hopes the Wizards use Yi similar to way Rashard Lewis is utilized in Orlando, as a player to spread the floor for Wall on his drives to the basket. Thorpe added that he expects Yi to have a breakout season similar to the ones made by Joakim Noah and Corey Brewer, who both parlayed summer workouts with Thorpe to play their best basketball last season.

The game on Sunday may not have been the best argument for Yi, but he has time, I suppose.

By Michael Lee  |  August 16, 2010; 12:51 PM ET
Categories:  JaVale McGee , John Wall , Yi Jianlian  
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Comments

Wall said Yi doesn't have me to get him those open shots! lol

Posted by: jefferu | August 16, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey Larry, if we can't agree about JaVale's BB IQ, can we at least agree that his Drive-Thru IQ is suffering a bit? Two steps forward, one-step back.

Posted by: ts35 | August 16, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Why is it one step back ts35? It's a posed pic for his twit, dam funny in my opinion.

Posted by: zxhoya | August 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like we have a player. Everybody goes cold occasionally. Can't wait for the season to start. Just pray that we hire a big man coach and that the head coach doesn't screw up the team with his head games.

Posted by: dcjazzman | August 16, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm willing to give McGee a clean slate from the point he and the Wizards discovered he had asthma going forward.

The guy has made significant improvement in a short period. Of course he has a ways to go but he'll be playing with a backcourt (Wall & Arenas) that can enhance his strengths.

It's up to him to get stronger and defend the post better.

Posted by: elfreako | August 16, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Why is it one step back ts35? It's a posed pic for his twit, dam funny in my opinion.

Posted by: zxhoya

Ah, missed the part where he posted it himself. Still a little off in my book, but definitely not as bad as if he was actually trying to go through the drive-thru on his segway. Apologies to bigdaddywookie.

Posted by: ts35 | August 16, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Peter John Ramos had 12pts, wow

Posted by: divi3 | August 16, 2010 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm almost sorry that the Wizards won the draft lottery, because that stroke of luck is just about the only thing providing Ernie Grunfeld with a little cover. Imagine this team without John Wall, and you'll get the true picture as to what Grunfeld has done to this team. Even with Wall, the prospects for this season are pretty dismal.

Posted by: sonny2 | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm almost sorry that the Wizards won the draft lottery, because that stroke of luck is just about the only thing providing Ernie Grunfeld with a little cover. Imagine this team without John Wall, and you'll get the true picture as to what Grunfeld has done to this team. Even with Wall, the prospects for this season are pretty dismal.

Posted by: sonny2 | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

If if's and and's were pots and pans the world would be a kitchen.

Just like the if Caron and Gil didn't get hurt blah blah blah.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

If people on motorcycles and bicycles can use fast food drive-ins, I don't see any problem with someone on Segway doing it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | August 16, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Interesting comment from David Thorpe. Of course, Orlando can use Rashard Lewis the way they do because they happen to have a pretty good guy at center.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If Yi takes after Rashard Lewis, then I guess he'll have a big season, sign a ridiculously overvalued contract, and then start coasting.

Posted by: kalo_rama | August 16, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"John Wall may have been the only member of the Wizards to have a good time at Madison Square Garden on Sunday."

That should tell you something right there.

Yi sucks, no clue why they got him.

McGee has potential enough to get the attention of some of the best coaches except the ones we have here in Washington. They should just let him play regardless of how bad/good is. It's the only way to get him the experience he needs.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Yi sucks, no clue why they got him.

Maybe because we were able to get rid of Quinton Ross' contract, gain $3mil out of the deal, meaning we get him for close to nothing?

McGee has potential enough to get the attention of some of the best coaches except the ones we have here in Washington.

But lacks the skills to make it onto a team that has only one center on the roster and is doomed to play small ball in international competition.

Posted by: crs-1 | August 16, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If people on motorcycles and bicycles can use fast food drive-ins, I don't see any problem with someone on Segway doing it.

Posted by: kalo_rama

Didn't know they let people on bicycles use the drive-thru either. Maybe it's my Drive-Thru IQ that needs work.

Posted by: ts35 | August 16, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Interesting comment from David Thorpe. Of course, Orlando can use Rashard Lewis the way they do because they happen to have a pretty good guy at center.

Posted by: Samson151

And also because Lewis is generally speaking a pretty good shooter. Yi, imo, hasn't shown yet that he's a good enough shooter to make his living out there.

Posted by: ts35 | August 16, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"McGee has potential enough to get the attention of some of the best coaches except the ones we have here in Washington. "

Conversely, McGee is still raw and unpolished enough that those same "best coaches" played him sparingly in organized scrimmages and cut him from the team twice in the span of a couple of weeks.

Posted by: kalo_rama | August 16, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

being a jumpshooter is exactly why Yi is on his 3rd team in 3yrs. If he's going to have the breakout year being discussed, it will come from changing his style of play.

Posted by: divi3 | August 16, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

being a jumpshooter is exactly why Yi is on his 3rd team in 3yrs. If he's going to have the breakout year being discussed, it will come from changing his style of play.

Posted by: divi3

Or hitting his jump shots :)

Posted by: ts35 | August 16, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm almost sorry that the Wizards won the draft lottery, because that stroke of luck is just about the only thing providing Ernie Grunfeld with a little cover.

Posted by: sonny2 | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse
========================================
That's funny, that is exactly what people said about George McPhee after the drafting of Alex Ovechkin. I guess that did not too work well either!

Posted by: JohnWWW | August 16, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

YI IS A BUMM! YA HEAR ME! A BUMM!! he'll get dunked on every night, what did Ernie think just because the verizon center sits in the heart of chinatown that Yi will fill a few more seats with some of his peeps(LMAO!!).We are headed for another fifty loss season right around the corner.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 16, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"That's funny, that is exactly what people said about George McPhee after the drafting of Alex Ovechkin. I guess that did not too work well either!

Posted by: JohnWWW "

Amen brother. Great point!

On the other hand, more nonsensical drivel from dargreg.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 16, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Yi and his team were playing with jet-lag. Yi's bad shooting obviously had something to do with it.

Posted by: Ronker | August 17, 2010 2:50 AM | Report abuse

Hi Mike, just for your info. This article has been fully translated into Chinese. (http://sports.sina.com.cn/k/2010-08-17/11485153386.shtml). Wish Yi will have a great year in Wahsington and you will be famous among Chinese readers.

Posted by: Ronker | August 17, 2010 3:00 AM | Report abuse

Yi Jianlian has rough outing for China
against Puerto Rico?

divi3

Maybe Ernie will bring Peter John Ramos back?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | August 17, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

We got a lottery pick (Yi) from a couple of years ago for virtually nothing and he is still 21. It's called a win win situation. If he shows something - great, if not - see ya. The ad naseum whining is annoying at best.

Posted by: rphilli721 | August 17, 2010 4:27 AM | Report abuse

If the Wiz would re-sign Ramos he could take McGee under his wing and help out with his development like he did back in Blatche's rookie year.

"Party John" Ramos could take McGee to a drive thru and show him how it's done.

Wait a minute, that was a "drive by" he took Blatche to...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | August 17, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Hi Mike, I'm a wizards fan from china. And we have a bbs .
http://bbs.hoopchina.com/wizards

Posted by: zhce | August 17, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

"We got a lottery pick (Yi) from a couple of years ago for virtually nothing and he is still 21. It's called a win win situation. If he shows something - great, if not - see ya. The ad naseum whining is annoying at best.Posted by: rphilli721"

I think he's closer to 25...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Part of the problem with Yi's NBA experience is clubs not being able to figure out what to do with Yi. As a rook in Milwaukee they stationed him inside and asked him to help out on the boards; he took only 21 three-point shots all season. The Nets sent him further outside the following year, and he wound up taking 7 times as many 3 pointers (I'm not making that up). In 2009-10, NJ decided he was once again an inside player and although he averaged 7 more minutes, his 3 point attempts dropped by 100.

I guess you could argue that bodes well for the Wiz in terms of his performance if they simply don't expect him to be primarily an inside player. Then again, the headline when Washington traded for him was 'Washington Wizards trade for Yi Jianlian to bulk up front court'.

Oh well...

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Samson151, I'd agree that part of Yi's problem has been one of changing roles and expectations in his short NBA career.

Part of the problem as I see it has been lack of basic aggression in his play. I'd have to agree with Thorpe's take that he needs to find a home. If he doesn't settle into a role with this and earn another contract here, he'll be on his 4th team in 5 years, that's getting into official NBA gypsy territory.

Most guys that start out like that never really do catch on somewhere. There are a few that find a specialty and find a role later in their career, but not a lot. This could be a real make or break year for Yi.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | August 17, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

"I'd have to agree with Thorpe's take that he needs to find a home. If he doesn't settle into a role with this and earn another contract here, he'll be on his 4th team in 5 years, that's getting into official NBA gypsy territory." posted by flohrtv

Except I don't see where Thorpe said that. He said "that he hopes the Wizards use Yi similar to way Rashard Lewis is utilized in Orlando, as a player to spread the floor for Wall on his drives to the basket."

I don't know if he's that good an outside shooter. But if he is, he could help Washington.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Samson151, flohrtv,

The main reason for Yi's changing style is that he cannot score inside consistently enough against NBA big men.

You guys may not know, before Yao, Wang Zhizhi was the first Chinese player ever to play in NBA. He is 7 foot, athletic and with good shooting touch, sounds familiar?

Here is a description of him in wiki: "An athletic and tall player at 7'1" (216cm), Wang was primarily known in the NBA as a long-range shooter. However, he was previously crowned the slam dunk champion in China's CBA league."

Wang didn't receive much fanfare entering NBA, because people weren't paying much attention to Chinese basketball then, but basically, Wang had to "change" his style of being the slam dunk champion in China to an outside shooter in NBA. Nevertheless, he spent his entire NBA career warming benches from teams to teams.

Yi got more fanfare entering NBA thanks to Yao's success. But he and Yao are two different types of players. He skill set is more close to that of Wang.

Posted by: sagaliba | August 17, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

What Yi really lacks right now is a definitive role / way to contribute / one legit NBA skill to build off of. As many players find out, at the NBA level, "athelticism" isn't a role or skill, unless you can translate into consistent production on offense or defense.

Imo, if he's going to be a Rashard Lewis type, he needs to work on his shot. If he's going to be an inside player, he obviously needs to work on his base, his aggression, etc. Right now, it sounds to me like his best skills are as a face-up, slashing 4. Tough to make a living that way, unless you can hit that jumper often enough to keep them honest. You also have to have an option for when they cut off your driving lanes.

Posted by: ts35 | August 17, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"The main reason for Yi's changing style is that he cannot score inside consistently enough against NBA big men."posted by sagaliba

Sorry, Sag, but the reason coaches move players around is they're trying to fill a team need. I think Yi's demonstrated he's not a good fit inside. He's a decent but not exceptional rebounder -- interior rebounding being more about establishing position than raw jumping ability -- and he's on record as a poor post defender. Translation: if the coach insists on playing him mainly inside, expect that he'll look OK in some matchups and hapless in others.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"Party John" Ramos ???

And I always thought Peter John Ramos. Funny.

Was he really with Blatche, no can't be true, just a joke, right?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | August 17, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Yi was a great inside player in China, that was his thing. Apparently he cant play the same way in the nba, that's why he's on his 3rd team. Either he figures out a way of being productive at what he's always done best (slashing, interior play) or he somehow becomes a much better jumpshooter in one season. If neither of those things happen, he's not going to get anymore traction in the league and can expect to be on his 4th team after a year in DC.

Posted by: divi3 | August 17, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I am expecting Yi to get a lot of minutes in the early part of the season, assuming that Blatche's foot will limit him for awhile. If he has a huge following in China, it will be interesting to see what the economic impact of that will be for the Wizards.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | August 17, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Samson151,

I said "main reason," I didn't say "the only reason," did I? :)

Sure, coaches move players around to fill a team need. But as you said, "he's not a good fit inside" (against NBA opponents).

Thus, a smart coach would not insist on playing him inside, and thus, he has to change his style/role. However, as many has pointed out, his outside shooting isn’t that good either, that's basically is the difficulty he is facing.

Posted by: sagaliba | August 17, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Yi was a great inside player in China, that was his thing. Apparently he cant play the same way in the nba, that's why he's on his 3rd team. Either he figures out a way of being productive at what he's always done best (slashing, interior play) or he somehow becomes a much better jumpshooter in one season. If neither of those things happen, he's not going to get anymore traction in the league and can expect to be on his 4th team after a year in DC.

Posted by: divi3

He has to be a better jump shooter for sure, but statistically he doesn't have to be that much better. Assuming he shoots as much as he did last year (unlikely, but just for the sake of using the numbers), if he hits one more shot a game, he moves from a .400 shooter to a .500 shooter. One more shot every two games still moves him into a respectable .450 range. Not ideal for a 7 fter, but tolerable. Just playing with what should theoretically be a better offense than NJ's last year might be enough for that to happen. Or likely playing against more second teamers instead of other teams' starters. Still don't know if that makes him worth the $5M option though.

It will be interesting to see how the Wiz use him. And much like with JaVale, I'm curious to see how his FIBA experience will affect him. For JaVale, it was getting a chance to practice and play with a high caliber of players and coaches. With Yi, it will be having to shoulder the burden of being the Chinese team's version of Kevin Durant, i.e. the one they all look to to lead and make plays. Given the level and talent of the Chinese team, it could either be a very frustrating experience or a growth experience...or both I guess.

Posted by: ts35 | August 17, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess what I am trying to say is, Yi was not a victim of teams moving him around and changing his role. He is a victim of unable to find his own niche (i.e., a define role) in the NBA.

Posted by: sagaliba | August 17, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Playing against 2nd teamers should certainly help, but considering he had the wondrous Brooke Lopez (couldnt resist) alongside at C I'm not sure how much easier things will actually get for him in the frontcourt. NJ won all of 12 games and since it's been determined that none of that can be put on Lopez....there is certainly a decent chance that Yi just isnt very good (which has been my opinion, though hopefully I am wrong).

He has had some strong games and shot well at times. Unfortunately there are more 3-15 nights than 10-15 nights in his career so far.

I still think that given he's terrible defensively anyway, he should get some burn at 3 where he can get as many open looks as he wants. It would be amusing to see him, AB, and JM on the floor with the announcers going nuts about the "triple Towers" meanwhile the opposition scores 15 consecutive points in the paint

Posted by: divi3 | August 17, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

it wasn't just the missed shots. yi AND most of the chinese team lacked fluidity. their basketball instincts were basically nonexistent, as if each was thinking what to do rather than knowing and executing on either offense or defense. puerto rico kicked their butts!

Posted by: dcjazzman | August 17, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Playing against 2nd teamers should certainly help, but considering he had the wondrous Brooke Lopez (couldnt resist) alongside at C I'm not sure how much easier things will actually get for him in the frontcourt. NJ won all of 12 games and since it's been determined that none of that can be put on Lopez...

But shouldn't just being in the presence of a future HoF'er like Blatche (also couldn't resist) immediately help his cause? ;-)

I don't know if they would be fundamentally sound enough to play it, but a 2-3 zone with McGee, AB, Yi, Young, and Wall would certainly be long. And might be enough to cause lesser teams some problems.

Once AB is healthy, Flip has some difficult choices to make with PT between Yi, Booker, AT, Seraphin (if he's here), etc. AT's really the only guy who they're pretty sure about what they have. Everyone else they need to see on the court. I have an unfortunate feeling that Flip is going to be shuffling those guys a lot, instead of letting one or two of them get into a rhythm.

Posted by: ts35 | August 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

is Javale's remark about journalists that haven't "played or been successful at basketball should not be allowed to write about it" equivalent to my remark that "nba players whose production has not been among the top top third at his position" should not be allowed to sulk after being cut from the "all-star" team?

c'mon son, we need you to be smarter than that! and tougher: don't be a crybaby.

Posted by: dcjazzman | August 17, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Larry, Yes, Blatche was with Ramos the night he got shot.

Samson151, Thorpe's comments I was refering to were from the articale that somebody linked to hear a while back.

I think it was from WizardsExtreme, but I'm not sure right now.

Sagaliba, I remember Wang, I never thought he was really very talented, but you'd only get to see him play real garbage minutes. Didn't seem to have the hops and strength that Yi has.

ts35, I'd hope that somebody claims a lions share of the PT and we don't have half times where we have a list of front court players with more fouls then points, rebounds, or minutes, COMBINED...

Am I the only Wizards fan that worries that we have no one that is really proven in the post on the whole roster?
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | August 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"Well, I guess what I am trying to say is, Yi was not a victim of teams moving him around and changing his role. He is a victim of unable to find his own niche (i.e., a define role) in the NBA.Posted by: sagaliba"

Victim? Who said Yi was a victim?

Look at it this way: have we seen anything from Yi in his 3 seasons that suggests he's going to be a really good interior player?

I guess we could ask the same question about Javale McGee.

On the other hand, we have seen signs that Yi can become a productive jump shooting PF.

Those signs are:
1) increase in 3 point FG% from 28.6% to 36.6% over 3 seasons.
2) maintained rebound average from initial year despite moving outside on offense and taking 120 more 3 point shots
3) averaged most assists and fewest turnovers during 2nd year when he moved outside

Not conclusive, but more evidence than I've seen offered for moving him back inside.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"Am I the only Wizards fan that worries that we have no one that is really proven in the post on the whole roster?GM"

No, I think we all see this as something of a donut team.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

ts35, I'd hope that somebody claims a lions share of the PT and we don't have half times where we have a list of front court players with more fouls then points, rebounds, or minutes, COMBINED...
Posted by: flohrtv

Hopefully also Flip will have a little more patience this year, understanding that he has a very young team. I just remember last year and the repetitive PG dance based on who was playing better at any given moment. Trying to ride the 'luke-warm' hand as it were.

Given how young all of our bigs are, I fully expect some inconsistency, so if Flip has an inkling to shuffle, he'll probably have cause. I just think it's better for young players to have consistent roles. Assuming they are giving good effort in the games and in practice.

Posted by: ts35 | August 17, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Those signs are:
1) increase in 3 point FG% from 28.6% to 36.6% over 3 seasons.
2) maintained rebound average from initial year despite moving outside on offense and taking 120 more 3 point shots
3) averaged most assists and fewest turnovers during 2nd year when he moved outside

Not conclusive, but more evidence than I've seen offered for moving him back inside.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 3:49 PM

You're making the mistake of looking at his number of 3pt attempts and using it as evidence of whether he was inside or outside. He's been outside his whole nba career so far, most of what he does is 15ft and beyond. One season he tried his hand at 3s and was even further out, but in the other two he was still a jumpshooter who eschewed the paint. His career 40%FG as a 7ft PF tells the story of what he's been, namely, an often ineffective player....why else would we have gotten him for nada afterall

Posted by: divi3 | August 17, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I actually watched this game when I saw the Yi vs Ramos matchup following the USA game. What is concerning is Ramos looked better by miles than Yi or McGee for that matter. Ramos actually looked very good. Yi looked awful, and even he actually looks alot better at setting picks than McGee.

McGee in what I saw looks absolutely clueless out there.

Posted by: Darnell1 | August 17, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

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