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When will John Wall get his shot?

John Wall has been keeping up with Team USA this summer, as the United States attempts to end a 16-year gold medal drought at the FIBA world championships, and he told me last month that he would love to "hopefully soon" represent his country in international competition. But the question that I pondered then and throughout this whole tournament in Istanbul is: How soon is soon?


I want to be in this uniform again. (Photo by Sam Forencich/USA Basketball)

While explaining why he didn't extend an invitation this summer to Wall to try out for the U.S. men's national team, USA chairman Jerry Colangelo said that Wall is "on our radar screen going forward." But that could be a while down the road, possibly the 2014 world championships in Madrid, at the earliest.

Wall, who turned 20 on Monday, certainly has the potential to be a special player in the NBA and it could happen quickly, with Wizards Coach Flip Saunders already committed to putting the team in his hands and letting him go. Wall's problem as it relates to Team USA -- at least right now -- is his position. If you haven't noticed, the U.S. may have some problems developing quality big men in recent years -- which explains JaVale McGee's invitation to tryout for the team last summer -- but there is absolutely no shortage of point guards.

The U.S. is so stacked with talent at point guard that Coach Mike Krzyzewski's starting backcourt is comprised of Derrick Rose and Chauncey Billups. It's so stacked that Stephen Curry and Russell Westbrook, lead guards for their NBA teams, have both been asked to also earn minutes at shooting guard and small forward, respectively, during this tournament. And, it was so stacked that Rajon Rondo -- an all-star and NBA champion -- withdrew from the U.S. men's national team to avoid getting cut.

The crazy thing is, arguably the two best point guards in the NBA, Chris Paul and Deron Williams, skipped playing for Team USA this summer after helping the Americans win the 2008 gold medal. And, if you consider that rookie of the year Tyreke Evans was forced to leave tryouts this summer after suffering an ankle injury and Brandon Jennings has already led his team to the playoffs, Wall would have to be truly spectacular in his first two seasons to leapfrog past some of the established players in front of him in time for the 2012 London Olympics.

But don't think that Wall is intimidated by the challenge. When I mentioned all of the elite players at his position last month, Wall just shrugged. "I don't know, I feel I can play with anybody," Wall said before admitting, "It's going to take time."

Wall then started breaking down the point guards in the world championships. "Those guys are very experienced," he said. "You got guys like Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook coming into his own, and surprising people on this level. And you have a great veteran guy like Chauncey Billups that knows how to run a team and make shots."

At age 33, Billups is likely playing in his last international competition, but there will be some serious competition over the next few years, especially if Paul and Williams choose to make a run at two gold medals in London. The field could open up sooner if the contract situations of Paul and Williams -- since both are eligible to become free agents in 2012 -- force them to step aside the way LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and Carlos Boozer did this summer. Rondo has always seemed indifferent about playing for Team USA and his latest experience probably didn't help much.

If the U.S. is unable to win the gold in Turkey, there might be an opening for Wall next summer, since the team would have to qualify for the Olympics at the FIBA Americas tournament in Mar del Plata, Argentina. And, with such a low profile event, some of the bigger stars may step aside --unless forced by their shoe companies. But if the NBA and the players' union is unable to reach an agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement before next July, there might be a lockout that prohibits the players from participating.

Rose, the last point guard to be picked No. 1 overall before Wall, is already earning some of what Colangelo likes to call "equity" but he knows that being the lead guard for the U.S., where the talent is plentiful, is truly select status. Seeking that position should be a motivator, not a deterrent, he said.

"It's definitely hard, but that's why you play this game. You got to be competitive by nature to play this game and you got to have heart," Rose said, recalling his early adjustment to the league. "Around the whole NBA, at the point guard position, you got somebody to play against every night. So, you can't take a night off. Everybody comes after you every night, especially when you're young, to see how you are, to see how you react to certain things. It's all about having fun, going out there with confidence, knowing that you can play with some of the older guys that it's in the league."

Like Wall, Rose was groomed in one season under coach John Calipari like and said he is confident that Wall will succeed on the next level. "I think he'll do fine. He's a player I think will adjust to the NBA very well."

And Wall isn't worried about how long it takes for him to have USA across his chest. "There are certain ways you can find your way," he said. "You just have to go out and play."

By Michael Lee  |  September 10, 2010; 8:00 AM ET
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So rumor has it that Carmelo is busy trying to engineer a sign-and-trade to either the Knicks or the Bulls. Problem being that neither team has all that much to offer in exchange. Chicago supposedly would give up Deng, and a #1 and a young player like Taj Gibson. That doesn't make a lot of sense for Denver, because in the absence of Anthony and with Billups' advancing age, they need scoring.

Going to be a lockout anyway.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

ESPN ticker mentioned Bulls were considering offering Noah to denver in a trade for 'melo....imho that would be a mistake on the Bulls part. Their team is set-up very nicely as it is, with Noah's interior play being a key contribution and potentially a decisive factor when playing the Heat

Posted by: divi3 | September 10, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

He looks like he's doing the Dougie while dribbling in that photo.

Now thats talent!

Posted by: millineumman | September 10, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

oh and btw, TEAM USA is very entertaining. They put the screws down defensively to the point opposition cant even bring the ball upcourt...10-0 runs where opposing guards are barely able to dribble. And Durant is simply head&shoulders better than any other player in the Tourney.

Hopefully we can bring home the Championship, though it seems many people only pay attention if they lose

Posted by: divi3 | September 10, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I find the little I have seen very enetertaining but it's hard to catch the games based on the times they come on.

Posted by: millineumman | September 10, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Here's why I don't understand a Noah-for-Anthony swap -- the Nugs have Nene and Chris Anderson in the middle, plus Kenyon Martin, Harrington, and Shel Williams at PF, so they don't need another big man. What they need is a wing scorer and a young PG.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Noah's young, and Denver plans on blowing up the team if Anthony leaves. They'll be stuck with Harrington, but the rest of the bigs have expiring contracts or can be easily traded.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 10, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Denver may be looking at Noah for the same reason Boston signed Shaq- to be able and handle the Lakers massive frontcourt. Also Miami's interior could be a weakness if Bosh stays as soft as he's always been which could make a team with a deep frontline Miami's kryptonite

Posted by: divi3 | September 10, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. I thought Boston signed Shaq because Wallace left and Perkins was hurt. BTW, that Perkins quote can't help -- about the team got older, not better, when they signed Shaq, Delonte and Jermaine O'Neal.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Here's why I don't understand a Noah-for-Anthony swap -- the Nugs have Nene and Chris Anderson in the middle, plus Kenyon Martin, Harrington, and Shel Williams at PF, so they don't need another big man. What they need is a wing scorer and a young PG.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

All of those big men are marginal, and definitely aren't young. Noah is better than any of them. Ty Lawson is their young scorer...but that team is pretty much at it's ceiling either way. Even with Melo.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 10, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Undoubtedly, I am sure that for Wall tp represent USA sooner rather than later is going to depend ironically on Gilbert Arenas.

Why Gilbert Arenas?

Because, in order for Wall to really have a chance over the other more established PG's the Wizard team is going to have to exceed expectations.

For, if Wall plays well and proves he can handle the point with the best of them but the Wizards don't impress in the win column, then Wall won't get all the props he deserves.

On the other hand, if the Wizards exceed expectations, become quickly a top notch Team this year, it can only be done if Wall and Arenas become a top notch duo and Arenas's play along with Wall running the point is an unfathomed success.

Ironically, just as McGee's chances of making the team was hindered by the fact he is mostly inexperienced and considered mostly run and jump, Wall's chances too will be hampered by an underperforming, low achieving, inexperienced, Wizard Team.

McGee's chance are better at making the team quicker than Wall, for Wall has a tougher road to hoe than McGee in overcoming the PG's ahead of him.

The success of the Wizard Team, in which Gilbert must play a major role, will help Walls chances to make a USA team sooner rather than later.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 10, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"Ty Lawson is their young scorer...but that team is pretty much at it's ceiling either way. Even with Melo.Posted by: SDMDTSU"

I like Lawson but he's another guy who isn't quite 6'. Iverson and Chris Paul excepted, there haven't been a lot of under-6' scorers in the NBA. Also note his narrow wingspan (6'1") for a stocky guy. Seems to me he'll have the same problem that DJ Augustin does, and that's defense on bigger players.

The Anthony for Noah swap does make a certain sense if Denver's plan is blow Denver up and start over, however.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Soooo ready for the season to start already.

That's why they have offseasons; so you can forget about how absolutely little you cared about the NBA in April of the season before.

Posted by: Blurred | September 10, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Samson151, I can agree with your assessment of Ty Lawson. One thing though that I think Lawon has is the it factor.

His height and his lack of ability to handle much taller guards can be a measurable disadvantage.

But on the other hand, if I gauge Mr. Lawson correctly, he is a money player. He constantly showed up in the 2nd half of crunchtime play throughout his career at Carolina.

He consistently showed the ability to make a play and be a game changer and he has shown a bit of it with Denver.

I have had to reassess my opinion of Jameer Nelson whom would seem to have the same disadvantages as Lawson, but Nelson this past season showed me that he has got game.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 10, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Damn I typed he was their young scorer? That's not what I meant...I meant he's the young PG. They would need a scorer. I'm remedial.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 10, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

".I meant he's the young PG."

Oh. Well then, you're correct.

Never mind.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 10, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Ernest Grunfeld is a stupid con artist.


I asked Ernie Grunfeld if had any regrets about that deal late last season, when it appeared that the Wizards would likely lose both Miller and Foye in free agency -- and rookies who were available at that slot, such as Stephen Curry and Brandon Jennings, were blowing up with their respective teams. Grunfeld said, "Hindsight is 20-20. It's very easy to say, this is what we should've done. But at the time, we did what we did because it was the right thing to do.

"When we made that move, we were in a completely different position, a completely different situation," Grunfeld said. "I think at that time, it was the absolutely right thing to do, to be a very competitive ball club. And everybody thought we were. We felt like we needed some veterans at certain positions to complement what we had. Certain things happened that were out of our hands that were unforeseen, as far as injuries and chemistry issues and of course, the incident in the locker room. Those are things we couldn't have planned for."

He then added, "Our plans have to change."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/09/wizards-get-a-reminder-of-past.html

Yes Ernest, the plans should include firing you!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | September 10, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I see the Nets signed Joe Smith. IMO he's the sort you want on your team if you have a young, raw PF like Derrick Favors. So NJ will start camp with those two and Troy Murphy, Sean May, and Kris Humphries at the 4 position. That leaves Johan Petro, Josh Boone, and Brian Zoubek behind Lopez at center. Terrence Williams will probably spend most of his time at guard, leaving Travis Outlaw, Trenton Hassell, rookie Damion James and Jarvis Hayes at the 3 spot. Devin Harris at the point and Anthony Morrow at SG, both backed by Terrence Williams.

Hard to imagine coaching that bunch. Avery Johnson has his work cut out for him.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 11, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

I think they got rid of Sean May. I actually like the Nets roster. Harris, Williams, Outlaw, Murphy and Lopez is nice...still have Farmar, Morrow, James, Favors, and the scrubs to back them up. I would be surprised to see a 20+ game improvement. Best case they can even slide into the 7-8 seed conversation.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 11, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

SDMDTSU, you think Sean May can play a role as back up center?

LarryInClingtonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

He's like 6'9. Might as well play Seraphin at backup C for all of that.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 11, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

He's like 6'9. Might as well play Seraphin at backup C for all of that.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 11, 2010 10:49 AM

Sounds like EG's kind of guy. Would May take Oberto money to play a backup/fill in role. Certainly, it would be an ungrade when Flip is in the bench McGee mode and no Oberto's is around and he has to go with a guy like May.

But you're right, Seraphin, is hopefully about the same or better, lets hope. Is Oberto officially gone by the way?

LarryInClintonMD.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

OMG, I just checked the roster and Oberto is still here. With Armstrong and Ndiaye not expected to contribute much this year, supposedly, the Oberto saga continues...

Fiddlesticks.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Oh no! Now, I get it. With Oberto, that must be the other side of Run and Jump that McGee is missing.

Damn! We have seen this movie. I rather have the Run and Jump. At least he has upside. Oberto has none as in nothing.

LMAO.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

You know, it is the small things that you do that can upgrade your team.

What allegiance do we have to keep Oberto?

Why not upgrade his slot to a young guy like a Sean May, who clearly can bring as much to the table, if not more than Oberto can now?

We do need still, to upgrade our frontcourt.

Especially, since it appears that only Booker, of all the big's drafted by Ernie is really able to help us now, as is right now.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Well, IMO the Wiz still look like a big donut. McGee, Armstrong, Blatche can all play the position, but none matches up defensively with the league's better centers. Neither does Oberto but he is an acknowledged expert at annoying bigger, more talented players for 15 or 20 minutes a game.

Still, it's hard to imagine Oberto wants to play with a team that could lose a heck of a lot of games this year. He probably has a little value left to a contender.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 11, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

"You know, it is the small things that you do that can upgrade your team."

Also the big and medium-sized things.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 11, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

" I would be surprised to see a 20+ game improvement. Best case they can even slide into the 7-8 seed conversation.Posted by: SDMDTSU"

You would or you wouldn't?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 11, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I believe Terrence Williams is a definite starter this season and Avery J. will turn that young team around.

Posted by: zxhoya | September 11, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I CANT WAIT FOR TRAINING CAMP TO START!! I CANT WAIT!! I AM GOING CRAZY I CANT STAND IT!!! I AM READY LETS GO!!! LETS GO WIZARDS!! I AM SOOOO EXCITED FOR IT TO START! LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 11, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Starting 5 :

Wall, Arenas, Thornton, Blatche, McGee

Top reserves:

Heinrich, Young, Howard, Yi, Seraphin

Bench:

Hudson, Martin, Booker, Armstrong, Oberto

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 11, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I like Ndiaye but I can see the need to keep someone like Oberto who is a seasoned vet and knows alot of the nuances of playing the post to teach all the young and still learing bigs on our roster. We can retain Ndiaye's rights while he plays overseas for a year or 2 and can actually get some playing time (instead of sitting on the bench) and develop without taking a roster spot (as he would if playing in the Dleague), which we can use on Oberto.

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 11, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I like Ndiaye but I can see the need to keep someone like Oberto who is a seasoned vet and knows alot of the nuances of playing the post to teach all the young and still learing bigs on our roster. We can retain Ndiaye's rights while he plays overseas for a year or 2 and can actually get some playing time (instead of sitting on the bench) and develop without taking a roster spot (as he would if playing in the Dleague), which we can use on Oberto.

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 11, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Neither does Oberto but he is an acknowledged expert at annoying bigger, more talented players for 15 or 20 minutes a game.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 11, 2010 4:21 PM

I am sure that this evaluation of Oberto did not come from anything he did last year.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I meant wouldnt...iPhone typing...my fault.

Oberto was never supposed to play big minutes. And there are things that he does that I wish JaVale would learn that don't include run and jump.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 12, 2010 3:12 AM | Report abuse

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the Bullets already announced they would not be signing Ndaiye for this season.

Also, Larry, the roster still shows Boykins, too, but I highly doubt Boykins will be playing here this season, so i wouldn't get too torn up about Oberto on the roster.

Posted by: Blurred | September 12, 2010 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Playing next to Tim Duncan in his prime, Oberto was semi-serviceable. Now he is old and used up, Singleton would have been a better play at C at this point in their careers. So instead of the "why would he want to sign here" talk....how about some "We don't want him" banter! :)

Posted by: divi3 | September 12, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

"Singleton would have been a better play at C at this point in their careers."

Except James is listed at 6'8", which is probably stretching it. And is a rebounder, not an inside post defender. He can play in the middle in a pinch, but if he's getting steady minutes at center, your team has a problem, not a solution.

I would guess Oberto would be glad to be gone from Washington. One of those guys brought on in the belief that the Wiz would be one sort of team, when in fact they became quite another.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Yep, Ndiaye is supposedly bound for Europe, unless something changes.

He came on very strong at the predraft camps based on his energy and aggressiveness. He has the wingspan (7'6") that the scouts value in interior defenders, and was actually listed as a PF in some reports.

Apparently has a nice little hook shot but not much else on the offensive end, and the real knock was poor hands. Apparently would have been a better rebounder if he'd been able to hold on to the ball.

I guess the hope is he'll mature and become a career bench player.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the Bullets already announced they would not be signing Ndaiye for this season.

Also, Larry, the roster still shows Boykins, too, but I highly doubt Boykins will be playing here this season, so i wouldn't get too torn up about Oberto on the roster.

Posted by: Blurred | September 12, 2010 7:16 AM |

If we weren't going to sign Ndiaye, I don't understand Grunfield's logic in using the pick that way. I understand all to well on getting the rights to a player for the future, but moves like that are for more established teams who can afford not to use all their draft picks to help them right now.

The Wizards are not yet in the position to be wasting picks on players that cannot help us now.

Also, I checked the roster again, 2010-2011 and Boykins is not listed. This was a full roster list to include the coaches. So as it stands right now, there still seems to be some Oberto considerations going forward.

Sometimes I think we put too much emphasis on the other side of Run and Jump. In a lot of cases, just get the best players on the court that can shoot, rebound, and play some D'. The other side of Run and Jump, the coaches get paid for too, don't forget.

Having a stiff around, just because he knows the game isn't worth it in todays NBA.

Make Oberto the big man coach.

His Run and Jump is so bad now that his know how/experience does not add value on the court and doesn't justify a roster spot.

If Oberto's experience is so valuable, then why did we trade Haywood. I know. Oberto is cheaper. You get what you pay for.

Oberto right now would have more value to the Team as a coach than a player. If he really has the Big Man Know How, then sign him as the 9th coach, for crying out loud. Get another big man on the floor that can Play and also learn.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 12, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"And there are things that he does that I wish JaVale would learn that don't include run and jump."

More appropriately, there are things that HE HAS DONE that I would hope he would teach JaVale to go along with his Run and Jump.

There is a serious question in my mind that Oberto still does effectively on the court what he is being lauded for.

I would say at this point, Oberto's effectiveness on the court is far worse on the effective meter than what Javale is accused of not knowing about the game.

Think about this...mull over this a bit... All those things that Oberto knows from experience of how to play in the post; how effective is it when you trot him out on the floor and other bigs and teams run circles around his butt and score easily because he doesn't have the Run and Jump anymore to use his knowledge effectively???

McGee and Blatch and others on the team for sure will wonder why he is out there. Hell, for that matter, play the coaches. Experience don't mean crap without Run and Jump.

ROAD is a term in the military used for a soldier at the end of his career waiting to retire. His glory and his best days are long past.

ROAD - Retired On Active Duty. Translate that to Oberto and he would be ROAD. He is done and he isn't effective enough to be on this Team as a player. Coach? Maybe.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 12, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I guess the hope is he'll mature and become a career bench player.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 9:35 AM

The wisdom of drafting someone we hope will be good enough to ride the bench is lost on me.

Samson151, you did not just slam Ernie's generalship strategy a bit did you now?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 12, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The Ndiaye pick was a little surprising in that there were still two higher-rated players waiting to be selected: Derrick Caracter, who went to the Lakers, and Stanley Robinson, a player the Wiz actually worked out before the draft who wound up in Orlando.

The argument I've heard is that after picking Seraphin and Booker, Caracter and Robinson would have been too much like what they already had. Ndiaye, by comparison, is a developmental big man, and those guys often play a year or two in Europe. Some develop (Ibaka, for instance) while others, not so much.

BTW, focusing on a part-time bench player like Drab Fab to account for the team's lousy performance -- well, it's bogus. The guy averaged 11 minutes and only started 20 games as a stopgap in a lost season. He's probably done in the NBA but has actually played well in the FIBA tournament.

Find somebody else to pick on, guys.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Find somebody else to pick on, guys.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 12:44 PM

It does seem that Oberto is being flogged, but the underlying point is that the Wizards can easily do better with his slot.

I guess you can't fault Oberto if the Wizard's still see a benefit to having him rather than someoneelse whom could add more for whatever time they decide to use minutes for a Big.

Also, can't Oberto just apply for the Big Man Job? Holla at him.

LarryInClintonMD

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 12, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to the US squad and Coach K for winning the World Campionships. I've never been a big Duke fan, and Coach K was terribly outcoached in the previous championships, but to his credit, he put a team to his liking together and helped it develop its own style: high energy small ball. Thet were even competent at attacking zones, something that has been lacking in past teams. Well done.

Posted by: mugsybol | September 12, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to the US squad and Coach K for winning the World Campionships. I've never been a big Duke fan, and Coach K was terribly outcoached in the previous championships, but to his credit, he put a team to his liking together and helped it develop its own style: high energy small ball. Thet were even competent at attacking zones, something that has been lacking in past teams. Well done.

Posted by: mugsybol | September 12, 2010 5:27 PM

Prime example of why Duke is so consistently a top notch BBall program.

Is also prime proof why coaching is hugely important and the coach must be the driving force to impel his players to be and do their best.

That is lost on some coaches and bloggers here.

Even though he had the choice of cutting McGee because he wasn't ready yet, but at the same time, had he had to keep McGee, he would have made McGee a better player.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 12, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Find somebody else to pick on, guys.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 12, 2010 12:44 PM

Arent you the guy who says bloggers are too thin skinned about criticisms of Mcgee??


"I would guess Oberto would be glad to be gone from Washington. One of those guys brought on in the belief that the Wiz would be one sort of team, when in fact they became quite another."

Would Fab have been in the league last year if not for EG? I thought he was waived by Detroit then we we swooped in. Would hope Fab was pretty happy to be here all things considered.

Posted by: divi3 | September 13, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Great win for USA! Awesome to see Durant emerge and just take over the whole Tourney. He's still so young, wasnt a given that's how it would shake out...he could have deferred more. But that FIBA 3pt line is just child's play for him, hitting flat-footed 3s over defenders at will- almost too easy.

So much for all the talk of the Americans not knowing how "to play together" like the international teams and being short on "fundamentals" and blah, blah, blah. Nice reminder for the world who the best of the best are hands down!

Posted by: divi3 | September 13, 2010 7:56 AM | Report abuse

OMG, I just checked the roster and Oberto is still here. With Armstrong and Ndiaye not expected to contribute much this year, supposedly, the Oberto saga continues...

Fiddlesticks.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 11, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse
.........................................

Orberto isn't under-contract with us, we have his "rights", but that's about it. Ernie already has his eyes set on another washed-up mid-thirties Center, Sean Marks.

Posted by: closg | September 13, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

"Would Fab have been in the league last year if not for EG? I thought he was waived by Detroit then we we swooped in. Would hope Fab was pretty happy to be here all things considered.Posted by: divi3"

Who knows if he'd have played elsewhere? My crystal ball isn't any clearer than yours.

Point is that Fab was an OK acquisition for the team that most people figured the Wiz would be. He just wasn't the right acquisition for the team they turned out to be after the Arenas incident.

It's basically irrational to pin blame on a player for not being the sort of player he's never been. Where did that expectation come from? Some fan's overactive imagination, usually.

On the right team, Fab's still an asset. Question remains whether that team is out there, or whether he's done.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

"Ernie already has his eyes set on another washed-up mid-thirties Center, Sean Marks.
Posted by: closg"

Probably hopes he can play defense. Or maybe he just wants to give the posters here somebody to complain about all season.

Like a public service or something.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Glancing at the other clubs in our division, here's who they'll likely have playing center:

Atlanta: Pachulia, Al Horford, Etan Thomas, Randolph Morris
Charlotte: Diop, Nazr Mohammed, Kwame Brown
Miami: Magloire, Big Z, Dexter Pittman
Orlando: Howard, Gortat

Horford usually plays at the 4, but he had so much success against our big men last year that we'll probably see him at center when Washington arrives. The Heat don't have much in the middle but then again, they probably don't need it, given who is manning the forward spots. Orlando is clearly better than us in the middle, leaving Charlotte as the team we might actually have an advantage against.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 13, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: closg | September 13, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

No one blamed Fab for anything, all that was said is it's unacceptable to look to him as our backup C for the upcoming season.

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