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Wizards season schedule breakdown: Part III

JANUARY


Huh, I get a do-over? (Photo by Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE viaGetty Images)


GAMES (Home, Road, Back-to-backs): 16 (8,8,5)

OVERALL: This could be a very emotional month for the Wizards, with Gilbert Arenas returning to the scene of the crime (FingerGunGate) and Josh Howard likely playing in Dallas for the first time since he was traded last February. They begin the month against New Orleans, then end it by playing the first three games of a rough four-game trip that ends in New Orleans on Feb. 1. They will have four home games against non-playoff teams and four road games against non-playoff teams.

GAMES TO WATCH:


You ready for me, John? (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)

Jan. 1, New Orleans: The Wizards open the new year playing the second end of back-to-back games against Chris Paul and the New Orleans Hornets, if Paul is still with the team. That doesn't seem fair. How are guys supposed to play a game in Indiana, celebrate the new year, and play another game the next night in D.C.? Okay, that's just me whining about having this wack, road-home, back-to-back set. As for the game, Paul created some commotion this summer when word leaked about his frustrations with the Hornets and his desire to get traded, possibly to New York or Orlando. The disgruntled point guard provided the first test for new general manager Dell Demps, a San Antonio Spurs disciple who once played with new coach and D.C. area native Monty Williams. Demps was able to calm down Paul by quickly trading for Trevor Ariza. Hilton Armstrong will get a chance to face his former team for the first time since the Hornets dealt the underachieving former lottery pick last February.

Jan. 5, at Philadelphia: This cannot be serious. Is this some kind of cruel joke by NBA Commissioner David Stern? On the anniversary of Gilbert Arenas's last game of the 2009-10 season, the finger-gun toting guard will have to return to the place where he brazenly mocked his gunplay with former teammate Javaris Crittenton by "shooting" his teammates and later expedited an indefinite suspension when he said, "Stern is mean." Arenas was shut down the next day -- his birthday -- and was later forced to miss the remainder of the season. Some of his laughing teammates were later forced to pay five-figure fines after it was discovered that the incident was planned.


This hat doesn't fit, but Minnesota might be the right fit. (AP Photo)

Jan. 13, at Minnesota: It's been more than five years since Coach Flip Saunders last coached the Minnesota Timberwolves, but he still maintains an offseason home in suburban Minneapolis. John Wall will get to face his friend Jonny Flynn for the first time, while the Wizards will also have to contend with No. 4 pick Wesley Johnson and D.C. native Michael Beasley, who was given a fresh start after two distraction-filled seasons in Miami. A year after trading away Mike Miller and Randy Foye to the Wizards for the No. 5 pick, the Timberwolves still have yet to see Ricky Rubio in uniform. But that hasn't kept general manager David Kahn from chasing after point guards. He signed Luke Ridnour this summer to compete with Flynn.

Jan. 17, Utah: The Jazz lost Carlos Boozer, Kyle Korver and Wesley Matthews in free agency, but they still feel optimistic about the upcoming season after dealing for Al Jefferson, who has produced big statistics but little else over his career. Wall will get his second major point guard test of the calendar year as he has to battle with all-star Deron Williams, who emerged as arguably the best player at his position last season.


Am I even going to be here? Who knows? (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

Jan. 25, Denver: Carmelo Anthony might not be around when the Denver Nuggets make their lone appearance at Verizon Center. The Wizards did their due diligence and checked on what it would take to land the three-time all-star who still hasn't signed a three-year, $65 million extension. But if Anthony is still around, the Wizards will no doubt seek a repeat of their surprising win in Al Thornton's debut, as he scored 20 points in his first game since he was traded from the Los Angeles Clippers. The Nuggets have had a tumultuous offseason, with changes in ownership and the front office, and little upgrades were made to improve a team that lost in the first round for the sixth time in Anthony's seven playoff appearances.

Jan. 28, at Oklahoma City: The Wizards still have never won a game in four attempts in Oklahoma City, whether the Hornets or Thunder were in town. At least the Wizards won't ever lose at Ford Center again. The team is seeking a new sponsor to get naming rights on the building. But, the task of winning a game there has gotten much harder with Kevin Durant an established superstar and the Thunder on the rise as an elite Western Conference team. In many ways, the Wizards are attempting to fashion themselves after the Thunder by trying to build a young, exciting team through the draft and shrewd trades.


I'm ba-a-ack! (Photo by Ronald Martinez /Getty Images)

Jan. 31, at Dallas: Josh Howard will miss out on facing his former team when the Wizards play the Dallas Mavericks in the preseason. But he should be able to personally "stick it to the Mavs" when he makes his return to the place where he spent the first 6 ½ years of his career and maintains an offseason home. The Wizards will also cross paths -- in a game that actually counts -- with Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson for the first time since the trade. Haywood should feel a tad better, having inked a six-year, $55 million contract last summer. The last time the Wizards were in Dallas for the 2009-10 season opener, they left with the delusion that Gilbert Arenas was all the way back and the team was ready to make a playoff run. By the end of January, the Wizards should have a better idea of what they are all about.

By Michael Lee  |  September 2, 2010; 10:00 AM ET
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Comments

Lets ask ourselves the question.

Do the frustrations and setbacks that Odom has had along the way any different than the frustrations and perceived lack of know how in McGee's game?

For Samson151, all/most players go through the NBA learning curve as you've pointed out.

They all have their own inefficiencies to overcome. Odom smoked pot and clearly did not always perform like most thought he should. Even all the way till last season, his bringing it every game was in question.

Is McGee being criticized more harshly and a bit unfairly for his own growing pains?

Is Odom's comments just an obvious true analogy of McGee?

Would McGee have flourished/performed better in a system unlike the Wizards, which did not put a consistent emphasis on his development and playing time and a better medical staff.

For, it has been reported it was Flip Saunders, the Coach, not the Medical Staff that brought attention how McGee got tired so quickly and he thought that it was odd.

I really feel that McGee and Blatche and other young prospects with the Wizards have not been given the best of chances to succeed and develop their games from the organizational side.

The players play a big role in their own development, but the Wizards as an organization has not done any better than the players in achieving this goal.

Hopefully, now that is all in the past.

Wes Unseld and many other players before and after him have used many a different thing as motivation to perform well on the court.

Consequently, the comments by Odom is more than a mere observation. It is an indictment that McGee's lack of knowledge/experience of the game negates his physical abilities now, (AS IN RIGHT NOW).

It is a slap against McGee and also the Wizard players and the Organization. What have they been teaching him for the last two years and if they have been teaching him, why is he failing to learn???

Oh yes, Samson151, Kalo_rama, that comment by Odom, I feel goes deeper than McGee. If another player felt that way about McGee and he was my player or my teammate, I would feel offended as well.

McGee and the Team and the Organization, gota' do somethin' bout' dat'. It is what winners would do. It is a team sport. They are in it together.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"Oh yes, Samson151, Kalo_rama, that comment by Odom, I feel goes deeper than McGee. If another player felt that way about McGee and he was my player or my teammate, I would feel offended as well. McGee and the Team and the Organization, gota' do somethin' bout' dat'. It is what winners would do. It is a team sport. They are in it together.LarryInClintonMD."

I'm glad I'm not on your team.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Jan 31st should be around the time Brendan starts sulking about his minutes. Don't know why anyone would want to see more of that. Another game worth a mention is the Bucks on the 19th. The Bucks made a lot of questionable moves over the summer, but drafting Larry Sanders doesn't appear to be one of them.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad I'm not on your team.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 11:17 AM

Well, the teams I have been on have been higly successful and we've won a championship or two. Not a professional championship, though, I will admit, but winning is the same animal.

You might not want to be on my team, for, I am talking about winning, from the top of the organization all the way to the bottom, and that comment made by Odom towards McGee would be a personal affront to me.

As a Wizard's fan I am praying that McGee and the Wizard's aren't taking that comment as just a valid observation.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

You see, I can't really see how you can separate that comment that McGee only has run and jump at this point in his career, but nothing else.

The comment doesn't indicate he is a young player with a lot to learn. Odom's comment indicates he is a young player not knowing all he should know now, (AS IN RIGHT NOW).

The distinction, in my book, is glaring and one that McGee and the Wizards should take offense to.

How can you just brush that under the rug as constructive criticism when they are saying that as a basketball player, McGee lacks the knowledge he should know as a player NOW!!!

Oh no, that is an insult and one that as an individual, a teammate, and the organization, I am always gonna keep in the back of my mind.

For, the team and the org' play a role in all their players development which makes up the end product, the organization as a whole.

Yes, when my team and I hit the court, we gonna' be showin' you' what Run and Jump izall' about.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"The comment doesn't indicate he is a young player with a lot to learn. "

You're kidding, right? The comment is all about the fact that he's a young player with a lot to learn. That's the entire point of the comment.

"Odom's comment indicates he is a young player not knowing all he should know now, (AS IN RIGHT NOW)."

Which is of course, just another way of saying that he still has a lot to learn.

Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Odom shouldnt be one to talk on what playing basketball entails:

"I just got through telling him [Odom] that this is really basketball now," Jackson said Wednesday. "He looks like he's either curling or doing some other kind of sport. He's not playing basketball."

I'll take running and jumping over curling anyday thanks!


Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

For two years now,

He bites on pump fakes profusely,
He leaves to early on the break without ensuring the rebound is had,
He releases to quickly on the screen,
He continually makes uncontrolled offensive moves,
He shoots wildly,
There seems to be no direction or coaching evident in his game on the floor,

For two years now he has been playing for the Wizards like this.

What is up with this???

Is it the Wizards??? Is it him, or both???

I do know this. Andray Blatche proved to be a 3xs better player when Jamison left.

Why???

Will McGee show that he is also a much better player if he is finally given the starter center position with a much better defined role???

Go Figure!!!

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if Flip's opinion holds any weight around here...but his review of JM from summer league was that he played much slower and didnt rush anything, hopefully that carries over to reg season

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

After the trades last season, JM shot 54% in feb, 50% in march, and 53% in April. Certainly nothing groundbreaking for a 7ft Center, but the idea he's out there constantly throwing up horrid shots and flailing around completely out of control is overstated. My take is he has a couple horrendous (hilarious?) attempts per game that tend to stick in the memory

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if Flip's opinion holds any weight around here...but his review of JM from summer league was that he played much slower and didnt rush anything, hopefully that carries over to reg season

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I mean a 3rd year veteran playing against rookies and FAs should play well. Who cares about summer league? It's easy to play well when you SHOULD be better. I don't think it has any bearing on the regular season. Unless you think him leaking early on breaks and not setting picks (which he did this summer) is going to still be there in the regular season too.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Flip noticed he'd slowed down and was happy about it because that will be a big key for the regular season. If Flip's criticism of the players is generally valid, then surely his positive comments hold the same weight.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Unless you think him leaking early on breaks and not setting picks (which he did this summer) is going to still be there in the regular season too.

I can see Wall making a point of icing McGee out if he continues to do those things. And not rewarding McGee with the ball is probably the best way to get him to stop making those kinds of decisions.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 2, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

"After the trades last season, JM shot 54% in feb, 50% in march, and 53% in April. Certainly nothing groundbreaking for a 7ft Center, but the idea he's out there constantly throwing up horrid shots and flailing around completely out of control is overstated."

No, it's not. Again, the vast, vast majority of his made field goals are dunks, tip ins, or layups. So the fact that he barely topped 50% overall (and, contrary to what you seem to think, the season didn't start in February) indicates that he misses the majority of any shots that require the ball to leave his hand in order to make contact with the rim. And how does his shooting percentage dispute him flailing around in the floor being out of position on both ends? One has nothing to do with the other.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

If Flip's criticism of the players is generally valid, then surely his positive comments hold the same weight.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 2:19 PM

Conversely, for someone who is on record as not giving Flip's criticisms of players much merit, to latch onto his praise for one of those same players as significant would seem to be rather hypocritical.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

No, it's not. Again, the vast, vast majority of his made field goals are dunks, tip ins, or layups. So the fact that he barely topped 50% overall (and, contrary to what you seem to think, the season didn't start in February) indicates that he misses the majority of any shots that require the ball to leave his hand in order to make contact with the rim. And how does his shooting percentage dispute him flailing around in the floor being out of position on both ends? One has nothing to do with the other.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah beat me to that one. Eff you Kalo.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I think Flip noticed he'd slowed down and was happy about it because that will be a big key for the regular season. If Flip's criticism of the players is generally valid, then surely his positive comments hold the same weight.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Summer league is glorified pick-up and he's in his third year. He was still doing the same things.

We're taking them for their word now? Because I swear you still say Seraphin was supposed to be healed in 3-4 weeks when Ernie said August. Let alone anything Flip says...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm pointing out to you haters that you guys love everything negative Flip has to say about any of our young players....so why not believe something positive he said?

Me personally, i've been on record for awhile saying the next 1,000 or so minutes of PT is where we'll see what's what with JM

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

you are evcaluating JM by his last year field goal%?It does not tell much about him.a center should be evaluated
1/ by the # rebounds on both side of the board
1/# box out
1/ not allowing others to move him from his position
1/ shoot blocking, it does it well
1/some passes or assist, JM does not want to pass the ball , may be it is the coach who is not giving him enough time to show us his talent.
In general he is going to be an above avreage front court player atleast by 2011-12 provided that he is given meningfull play time this season.

Posted by: gtefferra | September 2, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm pointing out to you haters that you guys love everything negative Flip has to say about any of our young players....so why not believe something positive he said?

Me personally, i've been on record for awhile saying the next 1,000 or so minutes of PT is where we'll see what's what with JM

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Because you in particular ignore the negative for the dreams/unsubstantiated opinions.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"contrary to what you seem to think, the season didn't start in February)"

Well, he had a grand total of 49 FG attempts before February, not exactly a great sample size.

Basically some people are excited we are a rebuilding team with a 22yr old 7'1" C who everyone in the league believes has all-everything potential, others see the need to assess the glass as half-empty at all costs. Just two different ways of looking at the same situation.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Because you in particular ignore the negative for the dreams/unsubstantiated opinions.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 3:01 PM

If you bother reading this thread, you'll see at no point did I disagree with Odom's comments. Nor have I said anything particularly positive about JM, just stated my opinion he doesnt flail around as much on offense as it may seem.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

"I'm pointing out to you haters that you guys love everything negative Flip has to say about any of our young players....so why not believe something positive he said?--Posted by: divi3"


And I'm pointing out that, having routinely dismissed anything negative Flip has had to say, for you to now run around waving this one quote that supports your POV in the air going "See! Look! Toldja So!" is ridiculous.

"Because you in particular ignore the negative for the dreams/unsubstantiated opinions.--Posted by: SDMDTSU"

What he said.

Moreover, no one said they didn't believe Flip. What they did say was that since the praise came in the context of a summer league game, it has limited (if any) reflection on what he can/will do when the real games start.

Basically, Flip said "McGee played well in summer league." And the response is "Yeah. So?" Which is the same thing many of us say when anyone around here praises a guy's summer league play. No inconsistency to be found there.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

"If you bother reading this thread, you'll see at no point did I disagree with Odom's comments. Nor have I said anything particularly positive about JM, just stated my opinion he doesnt flail around as much on offense as it may seem."

But you stated it in a context that suggested that his FG% somehow supported your position when, in fact, it does no such thing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"Well, he had a grand total of 49 FG attempts before February, not exactly a great sample size."

Which would be relevant if I someone was suggesting that that sample alone be used as a point of reference. But no is suggesting that. I'm simply suggesting that you stop trying to arbitrarily exclude viable data simply because it doesn't help your argument. In other words. the FGs he took before the trade count just as much as the ones he took after the trade.

In fact, if you're going the make the "small sample size" argument, then it would only make sense to include as much available data as possible, to gather the largest possible sample size. Right?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Basically some people are excited we are a rebuilding team with a 22yr old 7'1" C who everyone in the league believes has all-everything potential . . ."

Clearly not "everyone in the league" believes that.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

largest sample size would be his career FG%, which happens to be 50%....in other words the very number you seemed to have a problem with me using.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

McGee's got to prove he can handle being a starter before we start proclaiming him an Allstar.

But on the other hand his play the second half of last season and in summer league can't be ignored. Yeah, he had some nights that were clunkers, the kid gets down on himself if he gets in early foul trouble.

Blatche's approach and play last summer in Vegas was a preview of what he brought to the table once he got regular minutes last season. McGee seemed to go to summer league with the same workmanlike attitude this year.

He opened a lot of eyes to his potential with his play, but it this point it is largely potential. He's got to prove he's got the ability to do do the dirty work a center is expected to do night in and night out.
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | September 2, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am quite happy that our 7'1" center is not afraid to dunk at every opportunity. Too many big men avoid the rim and settle for finesse. Yes, his shot needs to improve, but as long as he keeps fighting for position to dunk, he's fine.

I'm far more concerned with his ability to fit into the offense (screens, offensive rebounding, clearing the lane, etc).

The Wizards are going nowhere this year so we'll have plenty of chances to evaluate the good and the bad of McGee throughout the season. He has his work cut out for him as he tries to keep his starting spot on John Wall's future team.

Posted by: jon_quest | September 2, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"Basically some people are excited we are a rebuilding team with a 22yr old 7'1" C who everyone in the league believes has all-everything potential, others see the need to assess the glass as half-empty at all costs."posted by: divi3

I probably would have changed that to read: "...we are a rebuilding team with a 22 year old 7'1" small forward at center...", except he doesn't have the sort of jumper a SF would need.

To the extent that the center position is primarily about out-running and out-jumping your opponent, Javale is aces, at least til he gets tired. It's the other part, the half-court stuff, where I suspect we're still essentially a donut team.

Who plays center against Bynum, Marc Gasol, Roy Hibbert, those guys? Seraphin looks a little short, and besides, he's not on the court. Hilton Armstrong looks great with his shirt off, but what about the lower body? And I don't think Hilton is going to score.

Wonder if we'll see Blatche in that spot a fair number of games this season?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I think JM is noticeably bigger and therefore probably significantly stronger so will have more success (or less failure) against Hibbert, Gasul, etc. That doesnt mean "problem solved" but at least he should have improved in that area.

Or perhaps N'Diay can check those guys as apparently he'll be pushing JM for minutes...

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

No, it's not. Again, the vast, vast majority of his made field goals are dunks, tip ins, or layups. So the fact that he barely topped 50% overall (and, contrary to what you seem to think, the season didn't start in February) indicates that he misses the majority of any shots that require the ball to leave his hand in order to make contact with the rim. And how does his shooting percentage dispute him flailing around in the floor being out of position on both ends? One has nothing to do with the other.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah beat me to that one. Eff you Kalo.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Your comments merely double-down on the stupid premise proferred by Kalorama. What the hell is wrong with the dunk (Shaq,Wilt Dwight have all been All Stars principally dunking the basketball. I'll take 50 % shooting all day long.


I watched all of the games last year and all of the Summer League games, there was an undeniable improvement in all phases of this kids game corresponding with playing time which breeds experience but more importantly confidence. There were two notable games against Boston late in the season (when the Celtice were playing hard for playodff standings)where both McGee and Blatche held their own and actually outpleyed the Celtics frontline. The New York game also highlighted the capabilities of theis kid.

The reality is that he will get pushed around some in the post, he will go for pump fakes sometimes (it happens to basketball players at every level) but it is critically unfair not to recognoze the vast improvement of the young fella over the past year.

This kid is going to have a breakout year and with the backcourt we have he might have 5 dunks a night (I'll take that).

Posted by: NewManagement | September 2, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"Or perhaps N'Diay can check those guys as apparently he'll be pushing JM for minutes...
Posted by: divi3"

I thought Ndiaye was heading overseas.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"What the hell is wrong with the dunk (Shaq,Wilt Dwight have all been All Stars principally dunking the basketball. I'll take 50 % shooting all day long.posted by NewManagement"

Weird that anyone would think the issue is a criticism of the dunk as a basketball play. The question is, can McGee reliably do anything else on offense -- such as when the dunk isn't available to him?

What do you do when you can't get in that close? Such as in a cramped half-court situation, fr'instance.

Does McGee have a jump hook? A fallaway 10-footer? Would reassure some fans to see him execute a few of those. What's sometimes called a 'go-to' move.

Not that he's in bad company. Dwight Howard doesn't have one either. But Howard is quicker and stronger than Javale, and can overpower his opponent.

What does McGee do on defense when his opponent pushes him away from the basket and delivers his own slam?

These are all basketball-type questions that even his biggest fans would like to see answered.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"I think JM is noticeably bigger and therefore probably significantly stronger so will have more success (or less failure) against Hibbert, Gasul, etc. That doesnt mean "problem solved" but at least he should have improved in that area.Posted by: divi3"

That's great but not my question. What does the team do when Javale isn't having success against Hibbert, Gasul (sic), etc.?

Is Oberto still our best option?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Your comments merely double-down on the stupid premise proferred by Kalorama. What the hell is wrong with the dunk (Shaq,Wilt Dwight have all been All Stars principally dunking the basketball. I'll take 50 % shooting all day long.

Posted by: NewManagement | September 2, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Since you spent so much time watching JaVale. Maybe you should watch Shaq, Wilt and Dwight. They OVERPOWER their opponents. The all have the ability to shoot a jump hook. They are skilled. They aren't clumsy and awkward when they aren't SPOONFED dunks. They can CREATE a dunk opportunity.

If JaVale doesn't have a wide open lane or is 2 feet from the basket..something bad has a 78.3% chance of happening.

Besides I'm sure they are closer to 60% than 50%...and where are all of those misses coming from then? He missing 1 out of every 2 dunks?

Next time you wanna compare JaVale's offensive arsenal...please don't pick three of the best C's in the history of basketball.

Let himi develop something.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Next time you wanna compare JaVale's offensive arsenal...please don't pick three of the best C's in the history of basketball.

Let himi develop something.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 2, 2010 7:53 PM |

You think that it might be a bit forboding as well as ironic that McGee got compared to the some of the best in the game.

Huh.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

This thread has lost it's collective mind. JM, who can barely get playing time on one of the worst teams in the league, is now being compared to HOF caliber players and the word "all-star" is being tossed around as if it is a fait accompli. Please. Not even worth another word of comment.

Posted by: rphilli721 | September 2, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

If JaVale has conquered his asthma issues he should average 30 minutes a night.

It's not a stretch to think he could average:

15 ppg
9 rpg
2.5 bpg

with that type of burn.

Name the last Bullets/Wizards center to do that?

Posted by: elfreako | September 2, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

largest sample size would be his career FG%, which happens to be 50%....in other words the very number you seemed to have a problem with me using. Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 3:39 PM

And, as usual, what you say you said and what you actually said . . . two completely different things.

After the trades last season, JM shot 54% in feb, 50% in march, and 53% in April.

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 1:01 PM

You tried to inflate his FG% by eliminating his pre-trade numbers. Spin, spin, spin. His career FG%? Don't strain yourself. Start small by acknowledging an entire season first and work your way up.

Moreover, I was the one who pointed out that he shot at 50% overall, not you:

No, it's not. Again, the vast, vast majority of his made field goals are dunks, tip ins, or layups. So the fact that he barely topped 50% overall . . .

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 2, 2010 2:42 PM

You're talking out of so many sides of your mouth at once that you can't even keep straight what you arguing and what you're arguing against.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 1:49 AM | Report abuse

"You think that it might be a bit forboding as well as ironic that McGee got compared to the some of the best in the game.

Huh."

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

Do you even know what "forboding" and "ironic" mean?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 1:52 AM | Report abuse

What's up with the negative ooutlook on McGee? Yes,he is far from being a complete player but he is clearly on the improve. Given the opportunity right now most NBA teams would love to have him on there roster. 2 years of college, 2 years in the NBA, only 22 years of age, with tons of natural abilities to play the game.

I don't have a problem with objective criticism but to stop short by saying that he has no room for improvement is totally ridiculous. What were the expectations of the Wizards when they drafted McGee with the 18th pick? That he was going to come in right away probably start and play heavy minutes? Or he was going to take a few years to develop and turn into a really good player. Based on what we have seen over the summer any real fan should be upbeat about his future. At 22 years old and only 2 years in the league he still have a couple of years to get things right.

I remember when Tracy McGrady and Jermaine O'Neal were burired on the bunch their first couple of years before given the opportunity to play and became allstars.

Posted by: spades72 | September 3, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

"I don't have a problem with objective criticism but to stop short by saying that he has no room for improvement is totally ridiculous."

Who said "he has no room for improvement"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 2:42 AM | Report abuse

I think JM is noticeably bigger and therefore probably significantly stronger so will have more success (or less failure) against Hibbert, Gasul, etc. That doesnt mean "problem solved" but at least he should have improved in that area.

Or perhaps N'Diay can check those guys as apparently he'll be pushing JM for minutes...

Posted by: divi3 | September 2, 2010 6:06 PM

Divi3,

Do not agree with you on this one.

Hibbert is 7 feet 2 and weighs 278.
Bynum is 7 feet but is listed at 285 pounds.
Marc Gasol is 7 feet 1 and 265 pounds.
Pau is the only one who is actually smaller, 7 feet, and who weighs less, 250, but for now will have JM's game anywhere anytime.

Don't get me wrong here, I clearly want JM to be a better player than all of the above but to state that he is significantly stronger sounds a bit odd to me...

Posted by: Goelez | September 3, 2010 4:10 AM | Report abuse

I clearly want JM to be a better player than all of the above but to state that he is significantly stronger sounds a bit odd to me...

Posted by: Goelez | September 3, 2010 4:10 AM

Significantly stronger relative to himself is what I meant, looks like he got bigger and stronger over the summer.

Posted by: divi3 | September 3, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Poll Question;

Do you think Washington should get rid of Javale Mcgee?

Posted by: millineumman | September 3, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

"You think that it might be a bit forboding as well as ironic that McGee got compared to the some of the best in the game.
Huh."

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD

Do you even know what "forboding" and "ironic" mean?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 1:52 AM

forboding, Yes, I clearly screwed up on... wrong usage and did not spell correctly.

ironic, not so much. It passes.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 3, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

I thought Ndiaye was heading overseas.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 2, 2010 7:18 PM

Really? According to kal he'd shown enough that we could expect him to push Mcgee for minutes this season.

Posted by: divi3 | September 3, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

FIBA website says Yi needs an MRI to determine the extent of an Achilles injury....

Posted by: divi3 | September 3, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

No...

We would possibly look back in a few years and compare it to trading Ben & Rasheed Wallace, Chris Webber, or Richard Hamilton.

Maybe he reaches a low threshold and never really becomes the player that his talent suggests he could be, like say a Calbert Cheaney. But on a young rebuilding roster, why not wait another season or two and see how his hard work plays out?

He has undoubtedly worked hard on his body and game development this summer, and he has vast physical tools. I'd beleive that you give that some time and see if he can bring it to the court on a regular basis before giving up on him.

He's still a work in progress, it's crazy to try and project him to be an Allstar when he hasn't proved he can start yet. But it's just as crazy to keep harping on every negative part of his game And pretend he's not working at it.

Goes for every pump fake? He drew two 3 second calls in the lane in summer league and should have gotten a couple of more on guys trying to triple pump fake him up in the air.

No shot? Showed a real nice jump shot in summer league that was put on nice display in his 30 pt game. All so a real nice jump hook move that I hadn't really seen before.

Gets pushed around under the rim? They were rookies, but McGee matched up very well with some of the supposed "strong man" guys from this year's draft. remember he's not much older then a lot of the guys in this draft.

He's no finished product, but he does show a willingness to work at it. Anytime a guy with talent is working hard I tend to give them a break and watch for progress.

I've seen progress in McGee from last summer to this summer. That's really all you can ask...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | September 3, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

You think that it might be a bit forboding as well as ironic that McGee got compared to the some of the best in the game.

Huh.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 2, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

No.

You might as well compare Nick Young to someone with Alzheimers because he can't remember plays called for him.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

To answer the poll question...

No they shouldn't.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

No.

You might as well compare Nick Young to someone with Alzheimers because he can't remember plays called for him.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

or maybe he just didn't think the coach was serious because for real, how many times are plays called for NY. I swear, a guy makes a mistake and it dogs him his whole career. let's not forget how Flip blatantly lied about the AB situation. Is there not a chance that there was some miscommunication b/w Flip and NY on the play he "forgot" just as there was miscommunication when AB allegedly "refused" to re-enter the game?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 3, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

or maybe he just didn't think the coach was serious because for real, how many times are plays called for NY.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | September 3, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Sure. That's it. Millionaire that doesn't think his coach was serious. How many times are plays called for Nick? You don't know. All of which has nothing to do with the conversation...but still.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

"forboding, Yes, I clearly screwed up on... wrong usage and did not spell correctly.

ironic, not so much. It passes."

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 3, 2010 8:09 AM

Not only does it not pass, it doesn't even muster a "gentleman's D." There's nothing remotely "ironic" about (yet another) fan comparing (yet another) one of his team's unproven project players to an all-star. It's SOP for fan site chatter.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

The Atlanta Hawks signed Etan Thomas.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

If Yi is down for the start of the season the Wiz could be thinner then paper at the 4 until Blatche gets back.

I still think the roster as it's composed now is desperately thin at the 4 & 5. The report of an injury to Yi makes it worse.

Could start the season with Hilton Armstrong, Seraphin, and McGee at center and Booker at the 4 with one of those guys backing up.

E,E,E, that's thin...
GM

Posted by: flohrtv | September 3, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I thought Blatche was supposed to be back for training camp. Three months out from July right? He should be there but you never know.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | September 3, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

"No shot? Showed a real nice jump shot in summer league that was put on nice display in his 30 pt game. All so a real nice jump hook move that I hadn't really seen before."

That's really the key to Javale. If he can do something besides dunk, then he can play more.

I must have missed all those jumpers, however. Mostly what I saw was dunking.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I wouldnt mind seeing what Booker can do, he's a 4yr player we moved up in the draft to get....would like to think he's ready for spot-duty from the get go.

Seraphin needs to be able to cover players like MGasul, Hibbert, and the others. Not from Day1 or anything, but to play Center he's going to have to check guys significantly taller than himself on a regular basis

Posted by: divi3 | September 3, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

i'm fine with JM finding his own way on the offensive end, and I think the days when a C had to have an array of post-moves are over. A single go-to post move on each block can suffice for someone with his length who can also face up and attack the basket. At any rate, he'll come along offensively.

Improving in defense and rebounding is what he needs to become a legit starting C imo

Posted by: divi3 | September 3, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with objective criticism but to stop short by saying that he has no room for improvement is totally ridiculous."

Who said "he has no room for improvement"?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 2:42 AM


As much as how you like to defend your arguments by being "specific", you should recognized that I phrased my sentence by saying," stop short by saying." So technically I did not attribute "having no room for improvement" to anyone.

To be real specific, you ( Kalo ) have been very bias and one side of your views about McGee. Where you highlight and magnify all his deficiencies but not once acknowledge anything positive about his game.

Posted by: spades72 | September 3, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

No shot? Showed a real nice jump shot in summer league that was put on nice display in his 30 pt game. All so a real nice jump hook move that I hadn't really seen before."

That's really the key to Javale. If he can do something besides dunk, then he can play more.

I must have missed all those jumpers, however. Mostly what I saw was dunking.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Gotta agree with flohrtv here, samson151, I saw some nice jumpers from JM as well. I was kinda suprised he actually made them.

Here's hoping that he will continue to work on those jumpers (and the rest of his game)

Posted by: Goelez | September 3, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"As much as how you like to defend your arguments by being "specific", you should recognized that I phrased my sentence by saying," stop short by saying." So technically I did not attribute "having no room for improvement" to anyone."

Yeah, well that makes no grammatical or logical sense and is, at best, a bunch of spin-dancing gobbledygook so . . . whatever.

As for this:

"To be real specific, you ( Kalo ) have been very bias and one side of your views about McGee. Where you highlight and magnify all his deficiencies but not once acknowledge anything positive about his game."

Aside from not being true (I'm pretty sure I've said at least one nice thing about him in the past 2 years) . . . I must have missed the clause in the Post's online user policy that requires me to dole out equal parts praise and criticism to any athlete who plays for a DC-based team. Guess I should have read the fine print.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"I must have missed the clause in the Post's online user policy that requires me to dole out equal parts praise and criticism to any athlete who plays for a DC-based team...Posted by: kalo_rama"

Yes, that's the ticket. For instance, you might post as follows:

'a) Player X is a complete waste of air and space, BUT
'b) I do like that new haircut.'

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Would something like this work?

A) Player X is a rank-smelling turd of a bust, but

B) at least he hasn't been caught beating his wife so far this season.

Or am I misreading the concept?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

"Or am I misreading the concept?
Posted by: kalo_rama"

No, you have it right.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 3, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, well that makes no grammatical or logical sense and is, at best, a bunch of spin-dancing gobbledygook so . . . whatever.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 1:06 PM


That's right, I forgot you are the resident language arts police. I am sorry if I do not meet your standards but I came to a sports blog and not to be judged on my writing skills.

Your are entitled to your opinion as do everyone else. You like who you like and free to criticize who you don't like. You asked a question and I just stated the obvious.

By the way, stop being so condescending it's only a sport blog. It's not that serious.

Posted by: spades72 | September 3, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

"Your are entitled to your opinion as do everyone else. "

Well then, you should probably keep that in mind next time you decide to get all righteous and indignant because someone happens to have and express an opinion you disagree with.

"You asked a question and I just stated the obvious. "

No, I asked a question and you closed your eyes and banged randomly on your keyboard for 90 seconds and hit the "Submit" button. The fact that it was clearly a rhetorical question just made it all the more amusing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"I am sorry if I do not meet your standards but I came to a sports blog and not to be judged on my writing skills."

The fact that your posts are poorly written isn't really a problem per se. Most of what Larryinshaunlivingstonsbasement posts is pretty awful grammatically and syntactically, but he usually manages to get his points across (as loony as they often are). Hell, most of what's posted on the internet in general is pretty badly written. Your problem is that you wrote something that was so badly garbled that it was logically incomprehensible. How can I suitably debase your argument if I can't even decipher it?

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Hell, most of what's posted on the internet in general is pretty badly written.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 3:56 PM


You must feel out of place communicating with people who do not share the same level of intelligence. If I were you I wouldn't degrade myself.

Posted by: spades72 | September 3, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Well then, you should probably keep that in mind next time you decide to get all righteous and indignant because someone happens to have and express an opinion you disagree with.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 3, 2010 3:49 PM


Stating the obvious has nothing to do wth being indignant. But hey, they say the truth is always seen as an offense.


Posted by: spades72 | September 3, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The blog is turning its direction to un acceptable personal non basketball related conversations.
We have to focus people.
thank you.
by the way, we just missed E.Thomas, we should have signed him.

Posted by: gtefferra | September 3, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Goes for every pump fake? He drew two 3 second calls in the lane in summer league and should have gotten a couple of more on guys trying to triple pump fake him up in the air.

With respect, flohr, I see your two three-second calls and raise you the game where he got pump-faked out of Chuck Taylors three times by Nik Caner-Medley, twice on the same shot.

There were definitely occasions where he looked to me like he was trying to be more disciplined on D, and others where it was more of the same.

However, with apologies to AI, we talkin' bout Summer League. Not the regular season, not the regular season....Summer League.

But progress is progress, and he has definitely shown some. A little bit more discipline, an extended run with Team USA (through a variety of circumstances), and an improved physique (though I don't think he's gotten as much stronger as divi).

Between those improvements, hopefully having his asthma under control, and the likely bump in PT and playing with Wall, hopefully he'll make good strides this season. He still has a ways to go, but hopefully he'll demonstrate an increased seriousness and dedication like AB started to show at the end of last season and over the summer.

Posted by: ts35 | September 3, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

If I were you I wouldn't degrade myself.

But since you're not me, it seems like you have no problem degrading yourself. Good to know, I guess.

"But hey, they say the truth is always seen as an offense.

A theory born out by the umbrage you seem to be taking at the thought of anyone criticizing your boy McGee.

" It's not that serious."

Don't tell me. I'm quite enjoying this. You, however . . . First you got all huffy because I wouldn't give McGee the love you think he so desperately needs, then you got all pouty because I "stated the obvious" weakness in your argument. You should probably take firm grasp of the stick and pull.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 4, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

"Stating the obvious has nothing to do wth being indignant."

No, but whining about how I'm being too mean to McGee does.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 4, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

"But hey, they say the truth is always seen as an offense.Posted by: spades72"

So's lying, right?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 4, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Goes for every pump fake? He drew two 3 second calls in the lane in summer league and should have gotten a couple of more on guys trying to triple pump fake him up in the air.

With respect, flohr, I see your two three-second calls and raise you the game where he got pump-faked out of Chuck Taylors three times by Nik Caner-Medley, twice on the same shot.

There were definitely occasions where he looked to me like he was trying to be more disciplined on D, and others where it was more of the same.

However, with apologies to AI, we talkin' bout Summer League. Not the regular season, not the regular season....Summer League.

But progress is progress, and he has definitely shown some. A little bit more discipline, an extended run with Team USA (through a variety of circumstances), and an improved physique (though I don't think he's gotten as much stronger as divi).

Between those improvements, hopefully having his asthma under control, and the likely bump in PT and playing with Wall, hopefully he'll make good strides this season. He still has a ways to go, but hopefully he'll demonstrate an increased seriousness and dedication like AB started to show at the end of last season and over the summer.

Posted by: ts35
and with the flashlight, map and magnifying glass he found it... I think we are saved... make your bets folks.

Posted by: yetanotherpassword | September 4, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

"Stating the obvious has nothing to do wth being indignant."

No, but whining about how I'm being too mean to McGee does.

Posted by: kalo_rama | September 4, 2010 8:05 AM


The premise of my comments about not having objective criticism holds true.

Spades72 - You have been very bias and one side of your views about McGee. Where you highlight and magnify all his deficiencies but not once acknowledge anything positive about his game.

kalo_rama - "Aside from not being true (I'm pretty sure I've said at least one nice thing about him in the past 2 years) . . . I must have missed the clause in the Post's online user policy that requires me to dole out equal parts praise and criticism to any athlete who plays for a DC-based team. Guess I should have read the fine print."

I think you have proven my point!

Posted by: spades72 | September 5, 2010 1:34 AM | Report abuse

"But hey, they say the truth is always seen as an offense. Posted by: spades72"

So's lying, right?

Posted by: Samson151 | September 4, 2010 4:47 PM


A lie directed at me does not offend because it always reflects back on the person who is telling the lie.

Posted by: spades72 | September 5, 2010 1:59 AM | Report abuse

"A lie directed at me does not offend because it always reflects back on the person who is telling the lie.Posted by: spades72"

Gotcha. Is that from a greeting card? Fortune cookie?

Just kidding.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 5, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

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