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Wizards training camp roster complete


You going to be ready, Lester? (Photo by John McDonnell/The Washington Post)


The Wizards announced their training camp roster on Friday and as previously reported, Cartier Martin, Lester Hudson, Adam Morrison, Sean Marks, Mardy Collins and Kevin Palmer have all signed non-guaranteed deals to participate.

They will join Gilbert Arenas, Hilton Armstrong, Andray Blatche, Trevor Booker, Kirk Hinrich, Josh Howard, JaVale McGee, Hamady Ndiaye, Kevin Seraphin, Al Thornton, John Wall, Yi Jianlian and Nick Young.

Second-round pick Ndiaye is on the roster, though the Wizards are still hopeful that the 7-foot, Big East defensive player of the year from Rutgers will still find a job in Europe before they are forced to submit their final roster to the league before the season begins. Otherwise, they would either have to cut him and lose his rights or keep him and have him take up a valuable roster spot.

The Wizards have 12 players under guaranteed contracts this season but they have one, possibly two spots open, with the team hoping to save a 15th spot for roster flexibility throughout the season. The competition for those roster spots should be pretty intense.

Martin, Hudson and Palmer all participated with the Wizards' summer league team, with Martin finishing the regular season with the team. Martin started all five games and ranked fourth in the league in scoring at 13.4 points and four rebounds last summer in Las Vegas.

Hudson, who recorded the first quadruple double in Division I men's basketball history at Tennessee-Martin nearly three years ago, started three games and averaged 11.2 points, while shooting 48 percent from behind the three-point line. Palmer, a Baltimore native who went undrafted out of Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, averaged eight points and started one game.

Marks is a 10-year veteran center who spent the past two seasons in New Orleans and has also spent time with Toronto, Miami, San Antonio and Phoenix. He has career averages of 2.2 points and 3.3 rebounds. Collins, a four-year veteran point guard who finished the past two seasons with the Los Angeles Clippers, has career averages of 3.9 points and 1.7 assists. He was a first-round pick (29th overall) of the New York Knicks in 2006.

Morrison is probably the most intriguing camp invite, since he is a 26-year-old, former No. 3 overall pick with two championship rings. That sounds pretty good, but Morrison hasn't played basically in basically three years. After averaging 11.8 points his rookie year, Morrison suffered a knee injury before his second season. Slow to recover, he was dealt to the Los Angeles Lakers but was unable to crack the rotation, playing behind Trevor Ariza, Ron Artest and Luke Walton.

Training camp will begin at 12:01 a.m. on Tuesday.

By Michael Lee  | September 24, 2010; 9:04 PM ET
 
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Comments

It's a good group. I would have preferred they bring back Singleton instead of Palmer because they need all the tough hombres they can get. Lots of flexibility with these players, though. Let's see who comes to play!

Posted by: zinger1 | September 25, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Marks is an intriguing choice. I wonder what kind of good habits he can contribute from being in winning environment?

Posted by: funkydancinmonk | September 25, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I am so psyched about training camp! How great is it NBATV will be broadcasting the opening live at midnight!!

Morrison is intriguing. He apparently has had at least 2 impressive workouts for Saunders and the Wizards. It should be a good battle between him and Cartier Martin!

Another guy I've wondered about is Joe Alexander, who seems to have alot of the same strengths as Morrison but more athleticism and ability to fit into our plans for an uptempo style. I'm not sure who's camp he's in if any.

I'm also glad to see Hudson coming in. I thought he played very well in Vegas, and his D and 3pt shot would be welcome at the end of our bench. Again him and Collins should be a good battle. And a hustling defensive guard is good to have in camp to work against Gil and Wall, and Young.

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 2:14 AM | Report abuse

No Oberto ??

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

I gotta say I REALLY like the moves we've made, really since last mid season.

Moving the no D and undersized unathletic Jamison and his massive salary. The "Big 3" had run it's course and it was time to go in another direction.

Moving the dead weight DeShawn Stevenson.

Picking up Al Thornton.

Drafting Wall, Seraphin and Booker... I'm liking all of these picks! Wall is a star. Booker is gonna be a solid player. Seraphin is a perfect fit as a PF/C who adds physicality to our frontcourt and can be paired with either Blatche or McGee and compliment their games.

Picking up Hinrich. He is a perfect 3rd guard and replaces Antonio Daniels old role. A solid dependable backup vet pg and a guy who can play with either Wall or Gil.

Pickup of Yi. Adding another young 7fter with skills like Yi is a potential low risk - high reward move. If nothing else he's a nice backup to Blatche at PF, and possibly opens up option of moving Blatche to C if no one else can solidify that spot.

Hilton Armstrong... again another potential low risk - high reward pick up. If he can become a solid backup C and defender off the bench this move is golden.

Josh Howard. It's good just to have another guy who talent wise and resume wise is at least in the same ballpark as Gil. If healthy he adds credibility to our lineup, a needed scorer and perimeter speed and defense at SG/SF. Again low risk - high reward.

Extending Blatche! I think this is EXCELLENT news. I think it shows Ted's ownership is not the same old regime. I think this move is positive and forward thinking and helps put us in a good light in players eyes. Good to show some respek to 'Dray and let him know we expect him to raise his game and professionalism. This is Caron money and I expect him to respond in a positive way to this. He complained last year about his pay vs role and now he's got no gripe. He deserves it and it was a good move on the organization's part and provides us with stability and foundation to grow on with Blatche and Wall. Picking up McGee's option is good move too, and really a no brainer.

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Lastly, I love the move to Patriot Center and the Midnight Madness kickoff to camp!! I bet this is an idea that will spread throughout the league.

And thank you Ted for returning to RED WHITE AND BLUE!! Although next season... All the Wall jersey sales this season, then all the new jersey sales next season, pretty smart business move!

I'm picturing a dominant Red with blue stripes and white stars down the sides.

If we gotta keep Wizard as the team name I'm hoping for jersey's with "Washington" or "DC" across the front instead of Wizards.

If a name change is considered, I've always liked and pushed for the "Washington Glory" as my top choice. That would fit well with the stars and stripes vibe.

2nd choice I'd probably go with Capitols (as in N Capitol St), to pair with the hockey Capitals. Maybe do something like make the "o" a basketball. I think that would work well also. Funny thing is a "Cap" is another term for a bullet.

Anyway ... Ted thank you for at least bringing back the red white and blue! Great move!!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

3 days I will be watching Gil and Wall together LIVE!! I cant wait!! I think those 2 are gonna be mad sick together!! This is gonna be a fun season to watch!!

All these new players and personalities. All these different games and skills to see how it all meshes. Yi and Seraphin... Blatche and McGee... Arenas and Wall... Thornton and Booker... Hinrich and Young... Armstrong and Ndiaye... Adam Morrison and Cartier Martin... Josh Howard.

Watch it all unfold!!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 3:25 AM | Report abuse

No training camp in RICHMOND. I will never darken the phone booth door again.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 25, 2010 5:53 AM | Report abuse

SINGLETON waited and waited. We should have signedhim. He will be missed. Tough as naiks.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 25, 2010 5:54 AM | Report abuse

Watch it all unfold!! Darnell1

Unravel might be a better word.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 25, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

The Blatche extension is a nice move. The money involved seems a fair balance between what a quality starting PF should make, and what a talented, perennial underachiever should make. Nor is it an unmoveable contract. However, as Larry pointed out in another thread, I do worry about what will happen if Blatche has a breakout year and sees himself as being underpaid. Still, that's the kind of problem this team needs. Let's also hope the foot injury is not chronic.

Posted by: mugsybol | September 25, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

I think Darnell1 is the only person in DC that is excited for the Wizards this year. Seriously folks, how can ANYONE be a fan of the NBA right now? What a crock of a league and I will probably the happiest person in the world when the league gets locked out next season.

Lebron James, Camerlo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and all the other prima donna superstars run this league and its pathetic. The sad thing is the Minnesota Timberwolves, Memphis Grizzlies, LA Clippers, and THE WIZARDS, will never win a championship or become competitive because David Stern doesnt see them fit to be "marketable".

Think about these two trades and how they were "Fair"...Boston Celtics getting Kevin Garnett AND Ray Allen and then Gasol going to the Lakers.

Congratulations David Stern, you have lost a LONG TIME basketball fan. And BTW- Im not the only one.

Posted by: dank32 | September 25, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Hey LarryinClinton, I hear we just traded Wall & Arenas for Haywood. Are you happy now, jeez.
Haywood hated Washington, give it a break. I like him enough, he was just fed up here! Money would not have made him a better player or make him forget past problems.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | September 25, 2010 12:54 AM

I admit, I am a bit put off because Blatche settled for a lot less than the could have gotten. Not the Wizards fought.

However, this bargain of a contract by the Wizards could turn out to be a sore point if Blatch turns out to be top notch in his everyday play as indicated in those last 32 games last.

Another note though, Isn't Oberto still under contract?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 25, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

On NBA pre-draft measurements -- from a DraftExpress article after the Portsmouth camp:

"For this year’s Portsmouth Invitational Tournament, the NBA elected to bring a professional company (B.A.M.) specializing in this area to conduct the official measurements. With listed college heights typically being fairly hit or miss in regards to their accuracy, and the NBA combine now including virtually all draft prospects – as opposed to past years where only a handful of first-rounders would be measured –teams wisely realized that their only opportunity to receive accurate measurements of many potential second round picks is at Portsmouth."

-All measurements are listed without shoes. To gauge what a player would be listed at with shoes, add an inch and a quarter. We looked back at our measurement database (which includes every NBA pre-draft camp since 2000) and found that players gain 1.2 inches on average from being measured in shoes, as opposed to without."


Posted by: Samson151 | September 25, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Also from the report on Portsmouth, which was held in April:

"-Hamady N’Diaye’s measurements surely won’t hurt him, coming out 6-10 ½ without shoes with a gigantic 7-6 wingspan (top 25 in our database) and a 9-3 standing reach. That, combined with his excellent motor, strong athletic ability and intriguing shot-blocking instincts should get him plenty of looks from NBA teams throughout the draft process, and could easily help him win an NBA roster spot when it’s all said and done."

Sounds like he may have been a late riser on teams' draft boards. Like Magnum Rolle.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 25, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Possible reasons that Derrick Caracter dropped from early to late 2nd round:

1. Length: Derrick measured 6'8.25" without shoes, which is OK, but his wingspan was only 7'0.25", and his standing reach (important for an inside player) was 8'11.25". Those are very similar to Patrick Patterson, who's considered somewhat undersized for PF. By comparison, Keith 'Tiny' Gallon, another beefy PF who went 11 picks earlier, measured 7'4.5" across and 9'1.5" standing. I don't know if these measurements should carry such weight in draft evals, but often they do. Human nature, I guess.

2. Weight. At a conditioning clinic, he dropped down to 280 from 305 prior to the measurements. That worries teams, because what goes down can go back up. It has in the past. The Lakers are now listing him at 265, so that may be a reason he played so much better in Vegas.

3. History. Apparently he really did have some serious entitlement issues beginning as a 6'8" behemoth in 8th grade, followed by HS as the nation's top-rated prospect.

A team like LA is often more willing to take a risk on a player with issues, figuring if it doesn't work out, it's not going to affect the won-loss record, and if it does, they got lucky.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 25, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

This is the worst group of players i've seen since Wes Unseld was coaching they've got Wall and Arenas and thirteen guy's named Joe they'll be lucky if they win thirty games.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 25, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

My Bad!! I meant twenty games(LMAO!!)

Posted by: dargregmag | September 25, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

So why did Stanley Robinson fall from early to late 2nd round?

1. Size: listed as 6'9", 210lbs, he turned out to be 6'6.5" and 213. That's fine given he's a great leaper, but it means he's a SF instead of the inside player he often was in college.

2. Skills: one Orlando source described in as 'deficient' in every area that didn't involve extraordinary athleticism -- such as shooting & ball-handling. At UConn he got almost all his points in the open court.

Given his current limitations (which were apparent in Summer League), his best chance at making a roster now is as a designated defender. In Orlando, that would mean replacing Matt Barnes, who left.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 25, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse


This is the worst group of players i've seen since Wes Unseld was coaching they've got Wall and Arenas and thirteen guy's named Joe they'll be lucky if they win thirty games.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 25, 2010 10:48 AM

Still making predictions?

Aren't you the guy who predicted that Eddie Jordan would take the Sixers to the playoffs? How'd that work out? The only way Eddie could have taken them to the playoffs was by flying them to somebody's arena to watch other teams play. LMAO!!

Posted by: ahwyatt | September 25, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I share the enthusiasm for the new direction. No, I'm not expecting much this season, but the Wiz will develop into a much better team than the teams we have seen over many seasons. Sure, it will take a few years, but the goal is no longer: "Let's sign some old guys and trade our draft picks to see if we can make first round playoffs." I feel like the Wiz are finally joining the race to the top.

Posted by: EdDC | September 25, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I dont know what you all talkin about! Wizards took it upon themselves to use their available space & give it to Blatche and give him a raise, they didn't have to do that!

They worked it to get him more money now. And if you just look at the 3 yrs added & the money it's close to 9 mil a year!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Wouldnt Wes Unseld Sr as big man coach to work with our young bigs a no brainer!? Why isn't he more involved?? We have this great asset to our team & dont use it!!!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Rebound & outlet pass to start the break was his expertise and it's just what we need from our bigs!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

from the NY Post: apparently NJ is dreaming of two trades. First, a 4 team exchange with Carmelo coming to the Nets for Derrick Favors and Devin Harris, among others. They would hang on to Troy Murphy and trade his big expiring contract et al to New Orleans as part of a deal for Chris Paul.

Sounds like dreaming to me.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 25, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

They worked it to get him more money now. And if you just look at the 3 yrs added & the money it's close to 9 mil a year!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 11:13 AM

No, it's not. Do the math.

Posted by: ahwyatt | September 25, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

LarryInClintonMD,

35 millions over 5 years, with 7 millions raise over next 2 yrs. That is roughly equals to 28 millions for 3 yrs if Wiz let Blatche's current contract run its course. So in essence, Blatche is getting over 9 millions/yr for the next contract, the only difference is that he is getting some of the money sooner (like doubling his current salary for the next 2 yrs).

Posted by: sagaliba | September 25, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I dont know what you all talkin about! Wizards took it upon themselves to use their available space & give it to Blatche and give him a raise, they didn't have to do that!

They worked it to get him more money now. And if you just look at the 3 yrs added & the money it's close to 9 mil a year!

Posted by: Darnell1 | September 25, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

__________________________________

According to the previous post... It's 5 years $35 million... last time I checked it was 7 mil/year.

I don't know what is wrong with all your negativity... Blatche has been getting better every year & stepped up last year except for the issue with Flip near the end of the season. Hell, even Scottie Pippen refused to go into a game when Phil Jackson didn't call his number at the end of a game. This stuff happens.

February 9th of last year til the end of the season... Blatche was in double figures every single game except 1. That shows consistency... Skilled PF are hard to find, he will definitely outplay this contract & will look like a bargain before it's over.

Posted by: tony325 | September 25, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

There are so many reasons to hate the Blatche deal, not the least of which is that it comes from the same GM that gave Tim Thomas $67 million. But it's done and we will all have to hope for the best, where Andray blows up in the next year or two, and decides in his 3rd year that he is once again underpaid and forces a trade to another team under the cap. Denver looks like a likely place.

This is what bugs me, though. Why did the team trade up for Booker? I thought drafting the two bigs in the first round meant that Washington was done with Blatche. But now it looks like Ernie moved up to take a guy that was perceived to be the 4th big when there was an obvious need for a wing. Shouldn't Pondexter of been that pick?

Posted by: djnnnou | September 25, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Some one in this blog touch my heart by commenting how some of us in this blog will remain negative even if wizard win shampionship.
What is the negative to sign AB for 5 years? Remember the team gave this money to ET and BH.This roster is young and not expected but will surprise everybody.we are going to see TNT and NBA TV looking to display more wiz games than they have already planned.
I do not know about morrison,i personally want Hudson to be included in the roster for his intense defense, That man has the heart to do it if he is given the key, he might be needed in some injury situation,plus he will give NY a pressure.

Posted by: gtefferra | September 25, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

'Why did the team trade up for Booker? I thought drafting the two bigs in the first round meant that Washington was done with Blatche.'

Posted by: djnnnou | September 25, 2010 1:46 PM

Yeah, what a shame the plan isnt to go with a 6'7"PF

Posted by: divi3 | September 25, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse


However, this bargain of a contract by the Wizards could turn out to be a sore point if Blatch turns out to be top notch in his everyday play as indicated in those last 32 games last.

Another note though, Isn't Oberto still under contract?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | September 25, 2010 9:31 AM

Are you schizophrenic or bi-polar? You always complain about the Wizards not being proactive and signing their young talent, but as soon as they do, you complain about them not giving Blatche enough money. B!tch, moan, repeat.

Blatche considered his circumstances and signed an extension of his own will. The Wizards essentially gave him a 3-yr, $28 M extension. That's pretty good coin for somebody who dazzled for 32 games (and I'm probably his biggest fan on the board).

Posted by: bobabuie | September 25, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what a shame the plan isnt to go with a 6'7"PF

Posted by: divi3

I don't see how you can come away believing that was the gist of my post. But yeah, that would be a better plan than voluntarily throwing money at a player that has spent years earning a reputation as a slacker because he put in a couple of months of honest labor.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 25, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

This is what bugs me, though. Why did the team trade up for Booker?I thought drafting the two bigs in the first round meant that Washington was done with Blatche. But now it looks like Ernie moved up to take a guy that was perceived to be the 4th big when there was an obvious need for a wing. Shouldn't Pondexter of been that pick?

Posted by: djnnnou | September 25, 2010 1:46 PM
............................................

I don't agree with you about Blatche, it was a solid move locking him up. However, using TWO picks to acquire Booker was troubling. Why use both our late 1st-round pick AND or high 2nd-round picks on Booker, an under-sized PF in college? Booker himself was projected to be a 2nd round pick in every major pre-draft mock.

Posted by: closg | September 25, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Too many holes, not enough plugs. BIGS over WINGS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 25, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

BOOKER is going to be looked at to play the 4-3 and take JAMES SINGLETON's slot.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 25, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Too many holes, not enough plugs. BIGS over WINGS.

BOOKER is going to be looked at to play the 4-3 and take JAMES SINGLETON's slot.

Posted by: glawrence007

But 2 plugs for 1 hole? Not even a hole really, because Singleton could of been re-signed. And I never really bought into Singleton as a 3. Certainly not the kind of rangy, defensive helper that the Wizards need.

Posted by: djnnnou | September 25, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

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