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John Wall on his first meeting with Derrick Rose

By Michael Lee  | October 11, 2010; 10:17 AM ET
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Anyone else see Hollinger's analysis of the Wizards players?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 11, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse


John Wall has all the critical components to be a leader, winner and franchise cornerstone for our Washington Wizards. This precocious prodigy is poised beyond his years.

Once Seraphin and Booker make the adjustment to the NBA in the coming weeks and impact the win column in their own unique ways, everyone will see that Ernest Grunfeld's unquestioned prowess in building an ultra-competitive roster will result in our Wizards being in the thick of things all year and pulling a playoff rabbit out of their hat, inexperience be damned! Of course, it goes without saying that Ernest should be the early favorite for NBA Executive of the Year notwithstanding Pat Riley's free agent shenanigans.

The other 29 teams in the National Basketball Association appear to be in a state of deep slumber, blissfully unaware of what the Wizards have in store for them THIS SEASON. Are you ready, Wizards Faithful?

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | October 11, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Are you ready, Wizards Faithful?

One definition of faith is a belief not based on proof.

The proof in your pudding, _thunk, that requires faith, a great deal of faith, faith in quantities associated with delusion, is that Booker, Seraphin, Armstrong, Ndiaye are, in a matter of weeks, going to develop into credible NBA players.
Hallelujah brother and pass the kool-aid, I'll take a hit.

Posted by: midlevex_ | October 11, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Yeah, trade our only proven superstar while other teams are stockpiling superstars (see Miami, Celtics)." That does not make much sense."Posted by: SPUD2

It's an interesting point -- is Gil still an NBA superstar? Seems like that would be hard to justify. A big hurdle being that he's only played in something like 47 games over the past three seasons. The 32 games he appeared in last year (which is all we have to judge by) displayed a scorer who approached his career average but fell well short of his career peak, established before the first of his injuries.

Here's a question: if you were putting together an All-Star team -- ten players -- for the Eastern Conference, would Gil be on it?

Posted by: Samson151 | October 11, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Here's a question: if you were putting together an All-Star team -- ten players -- for the Eastern Conference, would Gil be on it?

No, the two shooting guards would probably be D. Wade and Joe Johnson. Even if Arenas returns to pre-injury form when he was sizzling, he might have some trouble cracking that line-up.

Posted by: midlevex_ | October 11, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

No Gil is not an allstar anymore but not far off it. The question is if Wall could be an all star in his rookie year. If he averages close to a double double and the media hype him a litle, maybe he surpasses either rondo or rose!

Posted by: Pindajung | October 11, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see Hollinger's analysis of the Wizards players?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 11, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse


Anything interesting? I refuse to pay money for ESPN Insider so I can read the insight of the Miami Heat/LeBron pep squad, er, "insider experts". I can't even stomach their free crap

Posted by: JS26121820 | October 11, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

@JS26121820, re: Hollinger

About what you'd expect. Pretty fair to AB, Yi, Thorton, Wall, Hinrich and Gil. Probably a little hard on McGee. And of course he clubbed Nick Young like a baby seal. Not sure when these were written.

Hollinger on NY:
+ Slender, one-on-one scorer who can elevate for mid-range J. Good shooter.

+ Can't see floor at all and high handle makes him prone to turnovers.

+ Leaping ability hasn't translated into defense or rebounding. Doesn't play hard.

Young may be the league's blindest dribbler, ranking dead last among shooting guards in assist ratio. He has a knack for scoring -- 18.0 points per 40 minutes -- and he'd be a good 3-point specialist if he'd spot up more often instead of going for 17-foot contested jumpers.

Of greater mystery is his total inability to rebound. Young is 6-6 and can jump, but he ranked second to last among shooting guards in rebound rate. Among those who outrebounded him were Ben Gordon, J.J. Redick, Luke Ridnour, Jason Williams, Aaron Brooks, Mike Bibby and Carlos Arroyo.

Young doesn't seem to have any clue how to play defense either. He was eighth among shooting guards in fouls per minute and in the bottom dozen in both blocks and steals. He can jump and he can shoot, which should be a pretty good foundation, but right now he's not an NBA rotation player.

Posted by: ts35 | October 11, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Saw someone put Joe Johnson ahead of Gil. That's just crazy. You see double J go ghost in the playoffs? His paycheck is probably more ridiculous than Gils. At least Gil deserved it before injury!

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | October 11, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't generally give Hollinger's stuff much attention, but I have to admit he nailed that one.

"He can jump and he can shoot, which should be a pretty good foundation"

Problem is, a foundation is just a big empty hole filled with concrete until someone actually builds something on top of it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 11, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Saw someone put Joe Johnson ahead of Gil. That's just crazy. You see double J go ghost in the playoffs? His paycheck is probably more ridiculous than Gils. At least Gil deserved it before injury!

At least double J got to the playoffs before he went ghost, all Arenas got was suspended. I believe the question posed was, 'Is Arenas today a member of a ten player Eastern Conference all-star squad?' His knee and the rust of two lost seasons, despite some promising moments last season, are still question marks that would keep him off any logical selection of a pre-season all star team.

Posted by: midlevex_ | October 11, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I think he (Hollinger) was 100% accurate with his assessment of NY.

Never heard it put like this,"high handle makes him prone to turnovers" but that is the case. I called it his "herky jerky" style..hahaha

But it is sad because I think NY could be a starting 2 guard. He's another one who doesn't even attempt to play defense..

Posted by: kevenjones | October 11, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Defense is really the least of Young's problems. The fact is he'll likely never be more than an average defender at best, which wouldn't be a huge problem if he came anywhere close to maxing out his potential on the offensive end.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 11, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

thats why its called PRESEASON ALL STAR team not the real one

Posted by: MrNoOne | October 11, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

this kid is fresh ... hope he doesn't get corrupted by the NBA Life ...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | October 12, 2010 4:45 AM | Report abuse

Flip's greatest teams didn't rely on superstars but on chemistry. The old winning Pistons were better than any one of their players, and were exciting to watch as a team. Would love to see the Wiz also drop egos and tighten as a team. May be unrealistic, but not impossible. If they did, they could take it well into June.

Posted by: steveinWashington | October 12, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

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