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Nick Young on a roll, with or without Gilbert Arenas's help


I appreciate the opportunity, but I did produce. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)


The fact that Nick Young actually produced in his first start of the preseason has been overshadowed by how Gilbert Arenas created the opportunity for his friend and teammate. That doesn't diminish what Young accomplished on the floor on Tuesday night, when he led the Wizards with 24 points on 10-for-14 shooting, including four three-pointers.

In his fourth year in the league, Young remains a player whose confidence is in direct correlation to his ability to make shots. When he's off, Young can lose focus. But when he's on, Young can be a lethal scorer. As Coach Flip Saunders said, "All of our guys know that when Nick does get on a roll, he can score as well as anybody in bunches."

Young was on one of those rolls against the Hawks, as his teammates repeatedly passed up their own shots to look for the man with the hot hand. On one sequence, John Wall brought the ball up the floor and found Andray Blatche open for a mid-range jumper. Blatche turned down his shot and flipped it back to a trailing Young for a three-pointer.

Near the end of the first period, newcomer Kirk Hinrich had already recognized that Young was heating up, so he pulled him aside and told him to set up in the left corner. Hinrich drew in the defense, kicked the ball out to Young and Young hit another three. "Kirk's been having a lot of confidence in me. That's my guy. Told me to get in that spot," Young said. "It's great, because you know the ball is going to get swung your way sooner or later. Sitting in the corner, you've got a great point guard that's going to find you."

But what followed after that three-pointer kind of summed up one of Young's problems, which have contributed to Saunders and former coaches Eddie Jordan and Ed Tapscott being reluctant to rely on him. So thrilled watching his shot fall, Young had a brief lapse and jogged back on defense as Atlanta's Jordan Crawford darted up the floor and buried a three-pointer to end the period. He had his defensive struggles early trying to guard Joe Johnson -- as most players do -- and Saunders is still waiting for Young to show a more well-rounded game. Although Young led the team in scoring, Saunders mentioned that he didn't have any rebounds or assists in 31 minutes.


I'm feeling pretty good right now. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

Saunders is also looking for Young to have a huge performance in a game of consequence. Young has led the team in scoring the past two games, including dropping 18 points in a loss in Chicago, but neither game was in doubt after the third quarter (the Bulls were up 20, and the Wizards were up 16). "Nick has a tendency, in blowout games, he shoots well when he doesn't seem to be pressed or when someone isn't behind who might take his minutes, he might play looser," Saunders said. "We've got to get him to play like that in pressure situations."

Young is grateful to be on the floor in any situation, after an up-and-down run in his first three seasons with the Wizards. "It's been tough for me," Young said. "I haven't really had a chance to just get thrown out there. I'm trying to find my way. I'm just going out there to play basketball, playing carefree and trying to enjoy myself."

After the Hawks game, Young said he had no idea that he would start until just before the game. "Gil came in and told me: 'You got it today. Go out there and play like you've been playing, how I know you can play.' He said he sacrificed today."

Arenas has served as almost a big brother for Young since the Wizards selected him with the 16th pick in 2007. He understands Young's game better than most and explained on Tuesday night that Young is a player who thrives in a free-flowing game. "His basketball skill is straight raw," Arenas said. "He's a great one-on-one player. And I think, when you put him in offense, put him in corners and stuff, that's where you lose him. He's one of those guys, you've got to keep talking to, so he can stay in the game."

Arenas also mentioned how confidence is the key with every NBA player, and Young was certainly feeling good about himself at practice on Wednesday. Each player had to make 20 of 25 free throws before leaving the court, or risk running eight baseline-to-baseline sprints. Young made all 25 of his attempts, then just for the heck of it, made 17 of 20 three-pointers from the left corner.

"That's me. I'm a shooter," Young said.

Young has always had Arenas's support through some of his most difficult times. Arenas has often used humor and brutal honesty to get his point across. But Young said on Wednesday that he was unaware of the extent that Arenas would go -- faking an injury -- to open up a shot for him. "I didn't know nothing about it. I heard it this morning. I seen it on TV so I guess it's just Gil being Gil."

Saunders said he may go with the same starting lineup against Milwaukee on Thursday. "That's how Lou Gehrig, that's how he got his job one time. So, those are things you always have to watch out for, the Wally Pipp situation. "

Young will be a restricted free agent and said that he is trying to prove that there is more to his game, but he knows what he does best. "I've done enough where some people know what I can do. I'm a scorer in this league," he said. "I really never had a chance to just play carefree and play a lot of minutes. I always had to fight my way in and find my way on my team. I'm going to try to continue to play. This is my fourth year; it can make you or break you this year. I was going to come in ready and no matter what, come in on top of my game."

"I love this game of basketball," Young said, "and I want to keep doing it."

By Michael Lee  | October 14, 2010; 8:18 AM ET
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Young's line from 10-12:

30 minutes

24 points

0 free throws

0 rebounds

0 assists

2 steals

1 turnover

======================

That trip-zip on free throws, rebounds, and assists is pathetic for a guy who played 30 minutes and put up a big scoring number.

Maybe Gilbert should have actually whacked McGee in the knee so NY had more space to clear the boards.

Posted by: farstriker | October 14, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"That trip-zip on free throws, rebounds, and assists is pathetic for a guy who played 30 minutes and put up a big scoring number."

KH had 1reb and 0 free throws is he pathetic too? JW had 2 rebs and 2 free throws in 35mins...guess he sucks?

Or could it be the lineup worked, with KH/JW finding NY for good looks which he buried? Both team shot well, nobody had a big rebounding number on either team ('cept JMs 11)

Posted by: divi3 | October 14, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Flip should be thanking his lucky stars!

Now he can "punish" Gil by bringing him off the bench next game. Flip can then have an "aha" moment and come up with reasons to keep bringing him off the bench all season (chemistry, spark off the bench, second unit scoring, etc.).

It would be ironic if Arenas' move to get Nick some playing time results in his permanent removal from the starting line-up. It would also be appropriate.

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 13, 2010 4:24 PM

Sounds good in theory, but it would open a whole new can of worms because Gil is still the best shooting guard the Wizards have and I get the feeling that starting matters to him. If people think he's a cancer now, just start playing mind games with him and watch the team implode.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | October 13, 2010 4:56 PM |

Looks like Flip agrees with me, based on his Wally Pipp/Lou Gehrig analogy quoted by Mike Lee.

Arenas should be coming off the bench. I hope Flip has the stones to DO IT AND STICK WITH IT!

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 14, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Are we nitpicking a guy who shot 10-14 and had 24 points? So what he didn't have an assist. If you watched the game, the team was feeding HIM! passing up open shots just to get it to the hot hand. And he was on! When Nick pulls a Larry Hughes (that means 2-18 with 1 reb and 1 ast and 4 to's), then come holla at me!

Posted by: CBell29 | October 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"Saunders said he may go with the same starting lineup against Milwaukee on Thursday. "That's how Lou Gehrig, that's how he got his job one time. So, those are things you always have to watch out for, the Wally Pipp situation. ""

It's on, baby!

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 14, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Arenas should be coming off the bench. !

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii

Why? As punishment? Based on basketball? Based on what?

Start who at 2-guard? Who was defending Jordan Crawford Tuesday night? His line was 30pts, 13 for 20, 5 rebs, 5 dimes, 2 steals, 2 fouls.

And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway? He sure didn't have to defend nobody on the other end.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 14, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

"When Nick pulls a Larry Hughes (that means 2-18 with 1 reb and 1 ast and 4 to's), then come holla at me!

Posted by: CBell29 | October 14, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse"

You say this as if he's never done that before.

Posted by: psps23 | October 14, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I am a Gil supporter, but now I think he just doesn't get it. While it is true that if he didn't mention it, nobody would know, but since he could not keep his mouth shut in the first place, he should at least keep his mouth shut when his earlier comment blew up in his face. What's the point of apologizing and then made a comment which made the apology seemed insincere?

Posted by: sagaliba | October 14, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

"And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway? "

The guy who dunked on lebron while he was only in college.

Posted by: jefferu | October 14, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Corey Maggette is a good scorer, wonder if Flip goes with Thornton at 3 tonight.

Posted by: divi3 | October 14, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

More than 75% of the players in this league, probably 90%, can help you when they're shooting well or scoring. Lots of guys can score.

The question is what are they doing for your team when their shot isn't dropping? Are they contributing?

As others have noted again and again, Young's history for the past three years is he'll have a couple of good games - all scoring ones - and then disappear for three weeks. He doesn't rebound, play defense, pickup loose balls, make passes, penetrate, et cetera. He shoots.

Guys with that inconsistency simply can't start.

Maybe this is the year he steps up. If so, he'll show it. If not, he'll show that too.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 14, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

i don't know the kid, but nick young's conversation in this article explains why he doesn't get on the court as much as he'd like. his measure of success is points. he doesn't GAS about any other facet of the game. stupid LA state of mind. stupid hiphop state of mind. send him to the end of the bench until he repents and starts playing THE GAME and not just one end of the court,

Posted by: dcjazzman | October 14, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway? "

The guy who dunked on lebron while he was only in college.

Posted by: jefferu

Was he even drafted?

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 14, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I dont agree with the idea that scorers are common and it's all the other things that are really important. There are no players in the league who could score 20/night but choose to focus on something else and only contribute 10pt/night or whatever. Most of the guys who are known for their hustle etc CAN'T score that well in the nba. It aint easy, and that's why guys who can earn $100mill contracts.

None of that excuses NY, nor suggests that he could score 20/night, just saying that a natural scorer is definitely an asset that teams need. So Flip should be able to find use for NY this season, maybe Vinny Microwave style. What keeps him off the floor is inattention to defense

Posted by: divi3 | October 14, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

So thrilled watching his shot fall, Young had a brief lapse and jogged back on defense as Atlanta's Jordan Crawford darted up the floor and buried a three-pointer

That pretty much sums up NY's problem, even when he's on he's a one dimensional player with the attention span of a fruit fly. Arenas' evaluation, oddly enough, confirms it. He's one of those guys, you've got to keep talking to, so he can stay in the game."

Posted by: midlevex_ | October 14, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Hinrich had already recognized that Young was heating up, so he pulled him aside and told him to set up in the left corner. Hinrich drew in the defense, kicked the ball out to Young and Young hit another three...."That's my guy. Told me to get in that spot," Young said. "It's great, because you know the ball is going to get swung your way sooner or later. Sitting in the corner, you've got a great point guard that's going to find you."

Arenas' take on Young's strength is slightly different, "His basketball skill is straight raw," Arenas said. "He's a great one-on-one player. And I think, when you put him in offense, put him in corners and stuff, that's where you lose him."


Posted by: midlevex_ | October 14, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Was he even drafted?

Posted by: G-Man11

uhh, yeah, 1st round #27. granted, he's no john wall, but let's not pretend he's a nobody....

Posted by: bigolebelly | October 14, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

The 3 guard lineup is just plain idiotic. How many rebounds did Heinrich and Young get?

Posted by: bobilly2 | October 14, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

"And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway?"

LOL a very talented guard with a history of yo-yo performances. Catch-and-shoot specialist who's just learning PG skills. Remarkable in college because he hardly ever gets fouled -- in other words, likes to stay outside and chuck. Has a little Nick Young in him.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 14, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"Corey Maggette is a good scorer, wonder if Flip goes with Thornton at 3 tonight.Posted by: divi3"

I don't think he's played yet, has he?

Posted by: Samson151 | October 14, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: G-Man11

uhh, yeah, 1st round #27. granted, he's no john wall, but let's not pretend he's a nobody....

Posted by: bigolebelly

Thanks for the info. I remember hearing during the game that he was an undrafted rookie. Might have heard wrong.

But my reason for bringing him up was: Who was defending him? I thought Nick was on Joe Johnson. Suffice to say, whoever was defending Joe Johnson did a better job on Joe than whoever was defending Crawford.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 14, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse

"That trip-zip on free throws, rebounds, and assists is pathetic for a guy who played 30 minutes and put up a big scoring number."

KH had 1reb and 0 free throws is he pathetic too? JW had 2 rebs and 2 free throws in 35mins...guess he sucks?

Or could it be the lineup worked, with KH/JW finding NY for good looks which he buried? Both team shot well, nobody had a big rebounding number on either team ('cept JMs 11)
Posted by: divi3

Just to be fair, I think the point is that with Nick, that's every night (with the exception of free throws, some times he does get to the line), whether he's shooting 10-14 or 5-14. And you sort of conveniently left out that KH had 8 assists and Wall 7. I don't really have a problem with Nick not getting an assist on Tuesday, because he was hot and got open looks. But it's not always the case.

But let's not lose the overall point. If Nick can consistently shoot well -- not expecting 10-14 every night, but a FG% in the high .400s, low .500s -- he'll have a role on the team. A role that will be dependent on his shooting on any given night. If he wants a greater, more consistent role than that, the coach has laid out pretty clearly what Nick needs to do. It's the same thing that has been made clear to NY repeatedly.

He's taken a step forward in that it seemed like he got his shots on Tuesday within the context of Flip's offense. Personally, I would like to see him take it to the rack more, but tough to say whether that was Nick feelin' his J, or more of a requirement of where he gets shots in Flip's O. A bit of both I think. I don't think Flip would have a problem with Nick attacking the basket if there's a play to be made, but he has taken pains to have Young add shots off of screens to his game.

Now (again) Nick needs to try to take the next step forward, and maintain his focus on both ends, and maybe grab a board or three.

Also, hope this wasn't lost on all of the KH detractors, but while a lot of fans are caught up on the Kirk vs NY vs whoever debate, it doesn't seem like it's an issue for the two of them. Kirk recognizing that NY was hot early on, telling him where to set up, and feeding him the ball...definitely a vet move, and...perhaps....captain-like.

Posted by: ts35 | October 14, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"And you sort of conveniently left out that KH had 8 assists and Wall 7."

No moreso than not mentioning KH only scored 8pts and Wall had 5 TOs!

Posted by: divi3 | October 14, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

speaking of captains, perhaps Flip will have his take Gil aside and lecture him on how they expect him to behave should he want to be part of this team?

Obviously I'm joking, those guys have been in town 5mins and don't have that kind of role no matter how much Flip would like it to be so.

So unless Flip is ready to man up....is there anything that can check Gil's behavior?

Posted by: divi3 | October 14, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"And you sort of conveniently left out that KH had 8 assists and Wall 7."

No moreso than not mentioning KH only scored 8pts and Wall had 5 TOs!

Posted by: divi3

Except that, again, for Young it's not a one-night thing, it's an every night thing. Racking up 8 assists, to me, is an accomplishment roughly equivalent to scoring 20 in a game. So in that sense, Hinrich's assists are roughly equivalent to Young's points. But KH also added 8 points on efficient shooting. What else did NY add? And are you really trying to equate what NY is bringing to the table to what Wall is bringing to the table?

Again, it's not so much of an issue for Tuesday night, because obviously the whole team was on a roll. Where it becomes an issue is for the nights when Nick doesn't shoot well (which happens to all players).

There will come games at some point where Kirk will have the opportunity to score, or maybe teams will leave him open and say "You beat us." If that time comes and he fails to do it, I'll listen to that criticism.

Posted by: ts35 | October 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Listen. Nick isn't gonna shoot 10/14 all the time.

He's the 2nd worst rebounding SG.

The worst at assist to turnover ratio
And the worst.

He was eighth among shooting guards in fouls per minute.

And he's in the bottom dozen in both blocks and steals.

With the tools Nick has...it's unacceptable. No one says he should be John Wall getting to the line or Kirk with assists to turnovers....but almost worst in the entire league? He brings no value in a game where he isn't shooting like that. That's why he needs to be more well rounded. He has leaping ability and long arms. GET A REBOUND, GET A DAMN STEAL. It's not like he's John Paxson or physically limited.

Especially since he's the only SG with prototypical size.

It's no reason J.J. Reddick should be able to accidentally find more rebounds than Nick.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | October 14, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

So unless Flip is ready to man up....is there anything that can check Gil's behavior?

Posted by: divi3

I don't really have that kind of faith in Flip, or in EG for that matter. Plus Gil has shown repeatedly that ultimately he doesn't respect the authority of the coach or GM. Not saying he flouts it, for the most part he seems to be doing what they ask of him. Just that at the end of the day he feels no compunction against going around them.

I think the only one who may have a shot is Ted. I don't know if he's up for it, Abe wasn't, but Ted is really the one ultimately who could set the tone that Gil may respond to.

Posted by: ts35 | October 14, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

So unless Flip is ready to man up....is there anything that can check Gil's behavior?Posted by: divi3

The fine is about the most the Wizards can do if they want to maintain any hope of moving Gil this year.

Trading Nick is another option. Hard to see Gil pulling a stunt like this for another teammate.

Posted by: djnnnou | October 14, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Zero coming off the bench would be a great idea-- not for any punishment reasons but because can you imagine how Arenas would school the 2nd string guys on opposing teams. It would make for a great lineup and sub pattern. Would really strengthen the Wiz.

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | October 14, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

First of all Nick is a scorer. Let's focus on that positive. Ben Gordon has parlayed that ability into a multi-million dollar contract. J.R. Smith is a starter. Neither has been noted as strong rebounders or defensive specialist. Every player to ever play in this league was not/is not an all around player. Some do things better than others. It is the coach's responsibility to use that player to his strength to better the team. How many teams cannot use a good shooter off the bench? I can name many players over the years in the NBA who were/are specialist, either offensive or defensive. Let's urge Nick on instead of nitpicking his supposed shortcomings and hope the coach can use him efficiently for the team.

Posted by: garrybrown | October 14, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

N.Young the streaky shooter = 2010 version of Calbert Cheaney


DUMP HIM !!!

Posted by: OG_Barno | October 14, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I have been done with NY since last year... Get on a roll or "you gots to roll" Javale has bout himself a little more time. He'll do much better in the "team" style of defense the Wizards are deploying

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | October 14, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Javale has bought himself sometime LOL

Posted by: SkinzNWiz | October 14, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Typically, I read more than a few nick-picking "buts" after writing something positive about this plain and simple "BALL-PLAYER". Even I knew from day-one this is a deadly confident basketball player, but I know my town and figured young-man its unfortunate for you to be drafted by this franchise. This article is perfect of what I knew back then. The few years he's been here the writing about him has been just like this. I know the Wizards opponents is glad he's on the bench instead of killing them. On most teams they would have put him out there, let him grow and be a young all-star. We sit him and justify flaw looking instead of seeing the obvious.

Posted by: CTaylor42 | October 14, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Except that, again, for Young it's not a one-night thing, it's an every night thing. Racking up 8 assists, to me, is an accomplishment roughly equivalent to scoring 20 in a game. So in that sense, Hinrich's assists are roughly equivalent to Young's points. But KH also added 8 points on efficient shooting. What else did NY add? And are you really trying to equate what NY is bringing to the table to what Wall is bringing to the table?

Posted by: ts35 | October 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Put the crack pipe down and give the young fellow his due for a great game. The asisst argument is so idiotic when the ball is principally in the hands of Wall and Heinrich and the offense was designed for him to catch and shoot. Any team will win a lot of ballgames when their 3 shoots 71% overall with an effective shooting percentage of 85 percent.

With respect to rebounds, both teams shot in the high 50 percentile and there were few long rebounds to be had. Further, he was guarding a perimeter player (Joe Johnson) so on most defensive possessions he was 15-20 feet away from the basket.

Lastly, Nick's defense was not the problem Jordan Crawfords was being guarded by Wall and Heinrich.

Get real Heinrich is viewed around the league as a solid 6th man type player; only the Wizards (and you) would try to
elevate him to superstar status.

Gil is absolutely right basketball is about confidence and this kid has not been given a requisite opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder. Blatche epitomized this fact in his seemingly overnight transformation.

As stupid as Gil was to faking and fessing up about his non-injury, this kid would have never got this type of opportunity if he had not did that.

Posted by: NewManagement | October 14, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Except that, again, for Young it's not a one-night thing, it's an every night thing. Racking up 8 assists, to me, is an accomplishment roughly equivalent to scoring 20 in a game. So in that sense, Hinrich's assists are roughly equivalent to Young's points. But KH also added 8 points on efficient shooting. What else did NY add? And are you really trying to equate what NY is bringing to the table to what Wall is bringing to the table?

Posted by: ts35 | October 14, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Put the crack pipe down and give the young fellow his due for a great game. The asisst argument is so idiotic when the ball is principally in the hands of Wall and Heinrich and the offense was designed for him to catch and shoot. Any team will win a lot of ballgames when their 3 shoots 71% overall with an effective shooting percentage of 85 percent.

With respect to rebounds, both teams shot in the high 50 percentile and there were few long rebounds to be had. Further, he was guarding a perimeter player (Joe Johnson) so on most defensive possessions he was 15-20 feet away from the basket.

Lastly, Nick's defense was not the problem Jordan Crawfords was being guarded by Wall and Heinrich.

Get real Heinrich is viewed around the league as a solid 6th man type player; only the Wizards (and you) would try to
elevate him to superstar status.

Gil is absolutely right basketball is about confidence and this kid has not been given a requisite opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder. Blatche epitomized this fact in his seemingly overnight transformation.

As stupid as Gil was to faking and fessing up about his non-injury, this kid would have never got this type of opportunity if he had not did that.

Posted by: NewManagement | October 14, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway? "

The guy who dunked on lebron while he was only in college.

Posted by: jefferu | October 14, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Jordan Crawford and Nick Young have something in common; both have dunked on Lebron.

Posted by: Theone9 | October 14, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The only rebounds Young will get are his OWN. Since he was ON the other night, no rebounds. He needs to "play freely" and pass the damn ball. He can create his own shot on anybody but cant create for ANYBODY other than himself? Nick is that dude you know at the gym who gets buckets but always seems to have "NEXT".

Posted by: Mikereese23 | October 14, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

And who and the hell is Jordan Crawford anyway? He sure didn't have to defend nobody on the other end.

Posted by: G-Man11 | October 14, 2010 9:44 AM |
###############################################Jordan Crawford is a better version of Nick Young. He ran the point last night. He played the 2 at xavier. Pull up some tournament highlights on youtube (dude was a beast last year). Was hoping the Wiz would snag him but....

Posted by: Mikereese23 | October 14, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

i don't know the kid, but nick young's conversation in this article explains why he doesn't get on the court as much as he'd like. his measure of success is points. he doesn't GAS about any other facet of the game. stupid LA state of mind. stupid hiphop state of mind.

Posted by: dcjazzman | October 14, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Is that really the problem??? Hip Hop nor LA have a thing to do with why NY doesn't play defense. NY is a PAC-10 player...all finesse, not toughness. Show me one PAC-10 player not named Kevin Love who really gets after it. Show me one...

Posted by: hakim74 | October 14, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say this, but Nick Young is another player on this roster that needs to be moved, and moved quickly.

Nick's problem is a serious problem. Nick's problem is his approach to the game. He is a silly dude. I mean a silly dude.

I sit behind the visitors bench and have for years. And I swear I have never seen the horesplay that goes on with the Wizards bench on ANY OTHER team in the entire NBA...

And Nick is a major culprit in this. Last game at the end of the game he ran over and knuckle bunched Blatche in the head and ran off.. Just silly horseplay..

It's sad because I thought Nick would be an All-Star. But he does not have the structure around him that will allow him to approach the game seriously.

Grunfield should do him a favor and trade him to Charlotte or Utah and see if they tolerate that horseshi*t.

We got some major issues and I don't think Flip can help us out here.

Sad state of affairs

Posted by: kevenjones | October 14, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Aright, this thread is capped. I start it, I end it.

Move along now.

Posted by: farstriker | October 14, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

How is NY on a roll when, according to Flip Flop, he didn't get an assist or rebound in 31 minutes. Nobody doubts that NY can score, but just being able to score, albeit inconsistently, is not going to guarantee him PT.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 14, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I love Nick Young, I love him.

Posted by: maejude | October 15, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

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