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Open thread: Wizards at Magic

The Washington Wizards open the regular season against the Orlando Magic tonight at the brand new Amway Center. Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter with beat writer Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 8 p.m.; TV: TNT; Radio: 106.7 FM.


By Alexa Steele  | October 28, 2010; 7:55 PM ET
 
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Comments


Starting Hinrich at shooting guard is just another way of saying "I give up". And tonight he's looking extra slow trying to guard Nelson or Carter.

Posted by: bobabuie | October 28, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

glad gil aint playin tonight so the haters realize how bad we need him to at least compete against quality teams.

Posted by: anamarialiliana1 | October 28, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Already looking at 2011 mock drafts

Posted by: Kev29 | October 28, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Starting Hinrich at shooting guard is just another way of saying "I give up". And tonight he's looking extra slow trying to guard Nelson or Carter.Posted by: bobabuie"

Sounds like you've already picked your scapegoat.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 28, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The game was over the first two minutes. Now it's just embarrassing. Blatche is shooting errant jumpers pretending he's JJ Redick, while JJ Redick is driving the middle for layups. There is no passing, no ball movement, no mental or defensive toughness, just a bunch of skinny, immature dudes shooting jump shots at the neighborhood Y. Wall is game, though. Get him a real power forward and/or a scoring center and he'll lead the league in assists.

Posted by: SammyT1 | October 28, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I have said this repeatedly; the Wizards need Arenas. Wall needs him badly. Wall plus Arenas will be pure magic. Wall alone will be a long season. Those who insist of getting rid of Arenas need to know Wall is not built to carry a team alone. He needs a superstar sidekick. That person is Arenas.

Posted by: RickJohnson621 | October 28, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I think that half shows how badly we need Arenas. A player that can create his own shots and subsequently make them. Please please please let this be the only injury time Gil misses this season.

Posted by: AskReeves22 | October 28, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Looks like there's nothing but music on those ipods.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse


glad gil aint playin tonight so the haters realize how bad we need him to at least compete against quality teams.

Posted by: anamarialiliana1 | October 28, 2010 8:58 PM

That's so funny. Arenas wouldn't make one difference whatsoever on this game. The bigs are playing small, everybody seems to blowing defensive assignments and the Wizards lack toughness overall. Obviously, the Wiz will have better days but they look like this is the first time they've seen each other on the basketball court.

Posted by: ahwyatt | October 28, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

I was wrong. I thought Blatche would shy away from the paint and start settling for jumpers after taking a few hard hits. But he didn't even wait for the hits, he started settling right off the bat. And McGee might want to get his eyes checked. I can only assume he has advanced glaucoma, because there's no other explanation for him standing less than a foot away from Gortat yet, apparently, not seeing him as he rumbled down the lane untouched for dunks.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Arenas would make a difference in this game must have broke out the good stuff to celebrate opening night.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Arenas would make a difference in this game must have broke out the good stuff to celebrate opening night.

34pts at half, of course Gil would have made a difference. Not to win the game obviously, but at least put some points on the board.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Wiz, they just called you the Washington Generals. I'd think that was funny if I wasn't from Washington and a season ticket holder. Stop embarrassing me and show up.

Posted by: ragtop4spd | October 28, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Stop embarrassing me and show up.

seriously. Looks like this is the first time they've played together.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Half-time Facts:

Hinrich has played the most minutes of any player on either team & his numbers are putrid: 3 points, 0 rebounds and 1 assist
Hinrich is sucking a**, but so is everyone else on our team save Martin who's numbers are good....so of-course he has to come out.

Posted by: closg | October 28, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Arenas would make a difference in this game must have broke out the good stuff to celebrate opening night.

34pts at half, of course Gil would have made a difference. Not to win the game obviously, but at least put some points on the board.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Well, the point is mute isn't it, because he isn't playing.

Being compared to the WASHINGTON GENERALS is pretty high praise for what I've seen out of this bunch so far. Where's JAMES STAPLETON when you need him. McGEE, BLATCHE and YI playing soft in the paint. Maybe pay should bwe based upon results. This half they are docked a game's worth of pay.

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 28, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I told people about Wall vs Nelson. I said that he can be better than Nelson all day but that doesnt mean that he will dominate the matchup because if he blows by Nelson then he still has to deal with Howard. Teams dont have that worry against us.

This game also shows Wiz fans that Gil is still our best player and people who think that Kirk should start over him are stupid.....lol

Dont panic though. We look worst tonight than we really are and we will look like a totally different team if you throw in a Gil & Howard. Thats 45 combined points and it also means more freedom for Wall & no double teams for Dray. It changes everything

Posted by: dlts2041 | October 28, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Like I said they are going to lose fifty plus games again,Grunfeld has ruined this team and this franchise for the near future and if you think this is bad wait until the Hawks get a hold of their azz this saturday, the I T people at my job here in the A-T-L got opening night tickets and are trying to talk me into going, i said no thanks if i want to torture myself i'll go home and try to have sex with my wife, ah just kidding honey.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 28, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

SINGLETON I meant to say. BOOKER, go in there and muscle up on HOWARD will ya'?

Posted by: glawrence007 | October 28, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This game is just another Blatche on our record. (sorry, just trying to entertain myself)

Posted by: talby1027 | October 28, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

"34pts at half, of course Gil would have made a difference. Not to win the game obviously, but at least put some points on the board."

If he's not making a difference between wins and losses, then he's not actually making a difference.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Gulp!! I'm hoping this is just some nervousness on everyone's part.

Posted by: LaureninGlenBurnie | October 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

All respect I have for Blatche was lost today. He played soft and scared. Not one big man was up for the challenge.

Posted by: lemekdivine | October 28, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

We look worst tonight than we really are and we will look like a totally different team if you throw in a Gil & Howard. Thats 45 combined points and it also means more freedom for Wall & no double teams for Dray. It changes everything

Posted by: dlts2041 | October 28, 2010 9:44 PM

45 points? You're clearly insane.

Posted by: ahwyatt | October 28, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't honestly know what people are expecting from this team. They're young. They are going to make a ton of mistakes. A ton. There are going to be many more nights like this throughout the year. You don't just purge your entire roster, get about six years younger, and contend right away. It's going to take time. Keep in mind that the Wizards were going against the deepest team in the league tonight.

I, like any Wizards fan, would love to see this team contend right away, and I'll still root for them all year, as always. But this is what we signed up for when we purged the roster. Seattle/OKC was like this when they first drafted Durant. Look at them now. It's going to take a couple years, folks.

In the meantime, enjoy having a team that doesn't take a half hour to dribble the ball down court.

Posted by: NWDC3 | October 28, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear, Mr. Leonsis, Please end the Ernie Grunfeld Experiment

Thanks

Posted by: popejustin | October 28, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

With 1:30 left in the 1st qtr I stopped watching the game. Hilton Armstrong sucks. I thought he got cut in the preseason. He played terrible then and he played atrocious tonight.

Wiz down by 31 and there's still 1 qtr of basketball left.

On the bright side Wall has 9 assists and there's plenty of time to trade Gil if he continues to act like a loof.

Posted by: wizfan81 | October 28, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

All respect I have for Blatche was lost today. He played soft and scared. Not one big man was up for the challenge.

try and relax...the whole team sucked tonight, aside from maybe CMartin. The coaching didnt look so great either, that 'transitional defense' strategy was pretty dumb.

team has barely played together and they faced a legit contender, gotta expect nights like this

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Why Arenas? You are looking at a young and confused team with no leader on the court to control the game. Arenas has been there, done that. Wall cannot be the leader yet. He needs Arenas to get him the ball to do his thing, and needs Arenas to light it up as well to force the other teams to stop focusing on him. Right now with the Wizards, stop Wall and you win. The difference will be clear when Arenas returns.

Posted by: RickJohnson621 | October 28, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

OMG! They are terrible! It is like boys amongst men out there! I do not see one easy win on the schedule, they could be worse than New Jersey last year! Btw, wasn't Yi on that team? Coincidence, I think not! Soft and scared comes to mind in describing this team. Until Wall learns how to make a jump shot, he is just a glorified dribbler wasting 20 out of 24 seconds every time.

Posted by: JohnWWW | October 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"All respect I have for Blatche was lost today."

You should have done like me and not had much for him to start with. Saves a lot of time on the back end that way.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I love how all of a sudden on this board, "trade-him-away-or-bench-him-for-three-years" Gilbert Arenas has suddenly become "he-will-come-to-rescue-us" Gilbert Arenas.

Posted by: NWDC3 | October 28, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

You do have to wonder what the schedulemakers were thinking when they made this a nationally televised game. Let's see: Horrible team on the road against a championship-quality team opening up a brand new arena. Guaranteed to be a real barnburner.

Posted by: ahwyatt | October 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche better known as the "serial skirt chaser" is a chump and the classic underachiver didn't like him when they drafted him and i like him even less now but some of you blamed Eddie Jordan and his staff for not coaching him up even though his teamates at that time knew he was a slacker and had more excuses than Eddie Haskell ( Leave it to Beaver). The Wizards are gonna be the laughing stock of the NBA and John Wall is gonna wish he stayed at Kentucky.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 28, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

This team's just not ready to play a good club.

Understatement of the year and we're only in the first week of the season.

The problem with this team - and it's the sign of a bad team - is they have too many players who if they're not scoring are useless. They just disappear. Don't give you anything defensively, can't help out any other way.

It's going to be interesting seeing how they respond to this.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 28, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Man, this team stinks to the high heavens!
The Wizards have no big men with toughness. Booker should easily get minutes with this bunch playing in front of him. At least he'll stick his nose in there and rebound and put somebody on the floor.

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 28, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

All respect I have for Blatche was lost today. He played soft and scared. Not one big man was up for the challenge.

try and relax...the whole team sucked tonight, aside from maybe CMartin. The coaching didnt look so great either, that 'transitional defense' strategy was pretty dumb.

team has barely played together and they faced a legit contender, gotta expect nights like this


Still Blatche is suppose to be the next thing and total played like a punk. He was scared and slowly got further and further away from the basket. I bet Blair would have battled.

Posted by: lemekdivine | October 28, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone seen enough yet for the season?

GM sucks, team is disjointed,, AB nowhere to be found, no inside game, too many outside shots, no defense, no improvement from any of the players, no bench, no hope....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 28, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Current +/-:

Wall: -31
Thornton: -26
Hinrich: -25
Blatche: -25

I think I've ever seen starters with such low numbers. Ironically, McGee is our bright light with a -14.

Gonna be a long season.

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 28, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Still Blatche is suppose to be the next thing and total played like a punk. He was scared and slowly got further and further away from the basket.

He missed the whole summer with a broken foot, first game back is against a top3 defense that treated him like the only legit threat on the team. Doubled every possession, completely out of sorts. Horrific performance, but really the whole team was lousy. I dont know how anyone can point a finger at any one player after this debacle, was a team effort in sucktitude.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

So did H pass Seraphin on the depth chart? Dont think I saw KS on the floor

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

This has to be the worst team for us to play on opening night. Having said that pathetic..

Blatche,McGee, Young..

Just like I have been saying all summer. Blatche shoots entirely too many jump shots and plays no D.

McGee nowhere near ready..

Young plays no D. Doesn't even try.

And if Gil played tonight we may have lost by 40. This was as much a defensive loss as it was a bad shooting night.

JW and Kirk played pretty good all things considering..

Wow

Posted by: kevenjones | October 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Arenas should have been traded years ago when we could have gotten two or three good players which we certainly wish we had now. He's not going to come back and save us as he has become injury prone. No leadership here!

Posted by: lk11 | October 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse


Seraphin is inactive for this game so I guess you can say that Ndiaye put Seraphin in his rearview mirror as he passed him by.

Ernie Grunfeld will sleep fitfully tonight.

Posted by: roscoepcalhounbrownjriii | October 28, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

JW and Kirk played pretty good all things considering

If that was those two playing "pretty good" then we are really in trouble.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Martin looked ready to play. Is it too soon for a lineup change?

Posted by: djnnnou | October 28, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"I dont know how anyone can point a finger at any one player after this debacle, was a team effort in sucktitude."

So Blatche gets a pass on sucking because everyone else sucks too? Pretty sure, that's not how it works, esp. for a go who, coming in, was being touted as the go-to guy, an All-Star in waiting. Once a player accepts that tag, then he can't be held to the same standards as rookies, journeymen, and role players. The expectations change and so do the responsibilities.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Im with everyone who lost respect for Blatche. Also no one played with toughness. No one. The highlights of the game were Cartier Martin showing off his talents and Trevor Booker getting some nice open dunks at the end. Other than that I am using Rohto's not Visine to clean my eyes after this game. Burns alot more and keep me thinking less of the atrocious game I just witnessed.

Posted by: masonkyle | October 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Oy!

Saturday's game is the Hawks' home opener so the final result might be just as bad as this one...so the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: gimmedat | October 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

"So Blatche gets a pass on sucking because everyone else sucks too? Pretty sure, that's not how it works, esp. for a go who, coming in, was being touted as the go-to guy, an All-Star in waiting. Once a player accepts that tag, then he can't be held to the same standards as rookies, journeymen, and role players. The expectations change and so do the responsibilities."

Very well spoken.

Posted by: masonkyle | October 28, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

So Blatche gets a pass on sucking because everyone else sucks too? Pretty sure, that's not how it works, esp. for a go who, coming in, was being touted as the go-to guy, an All-Star in waiting. Once a player accepts that tag, then he can't be held to the same standards as rookies, journeymen, and role players. The expectations change and so do the responsibilities.

First game back off a broken foot and you expect what exactly? How about the "tag" of franchise player and team capt for Wall? How about KH's supposed floor generalship at $9mill? What about Flip's upper echelon coaching? Didnt see any of those things, did you?

Obviously you have a thing against AB/JM/NY, but come on, nobody looked good tonight

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Eddie Jordan tried to make the guys play defense but they resisted...Flip is not the man for this team...

People keep harping on trading Gilbert...No one is going to assume his contract..no one....Gilbert might have been trying to protect Nick Young but Young can't protect himself...no defense...just a shooter...

Nothing new here...defense is the name of the game...McGee, Blatche equals 0 defense..

Posted by: pentagon40 | October 28, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

"First game back off a broken foot and you expect what exactly?"

Effort, focus, and toughness would have been a nice place to start. But then I've been expecting those things from him for 5 years without delivery, so I'm well past being surprised.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Gilby's stupid contract is just 1/2 of the reason why he can't be traded. The other half is his self destructive nature.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

"Obviously you have a thing against AB/JM/NY, but come on, nobody looked good tonight"

It's not about looking good. Until Blatche (and McGee) figure that out, this team will never get what they need from them.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse


How can a 6'11" Blatch play 24 minutes and get only two rebounds. I can understand a poor night on offense but there's no excuse for being lazy on the boards.

Posted by: gimmedat | October 28, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

@DIVI3 STATES...No one looked good tonite...may be true but that doesn't prevent each individual player from giving his maximum effort...and no one gave it tonite except maybe WALL......

You get paid after each game so why not give your all each game????????

Posted by: pentagon40 | October 28, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

It's not about looking good. Until Blatche (and McGee) figure that out, this team will never get what they need from them.

This team didnt get what they needed from anybody but CMartin tonight, and that includes Flip and his retarded defensive scheme.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

@pentagon40: maybe WALL?

Helloo Cartier Martin...

Posted by: masonkyle | October 28, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

"This team didnt get what they needed from anybody but CMartin tonight, and that includes Flip and his retarded defensive scheme."

I highly doubt his "scheme" called for McGee to stand flat footed while Gortat drove by him multiple times for flushes, or for Blatche to stand flat-footed while Magic players went over, under, around, and through him for rebounds at both ends.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:19 PM | Report abuse

eight days of practice and here we are.

down 34 points at the start of the 4th quarter and here comes john wall.

am i really hoping the wizards continue to lose so flip will be fired?

did i just witness the team quit on flip in the first game of the season?

yes.

thank you cartier. the highlight of the night was the weakside help block on dwight howard.

the horror...the horror

Posted by: spoooooooon | October 28, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I dont know how anyone can point a finger at any one player after this debacle, was a team effort in sucktitude."
So Blatche gets a pass on sucking because everyone else sucks too? Pretty sure, that's not how it works, esp. for a go who, coming in, was being touted as the go-to guy, an All-Star in waiting. Once a player accepts that tag, then he can't be held to the same standards as rookies, journeymen, and role players. The expectations change and so do the responsibilities.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

What about the coach. In summary the team was terribly pepared and ultimately it rests on the coach. Blatche is clearly not in regular season basketball game shape. He looks overweight and slow. Coming off a 4 month layoff and ankle surgery, I will give him a pass. The irony of this whole debacle is that Arenas (if healthy) may be worth every dime he is being paid. Otherwise, the season may be over by Christmas.

Posted by: NewManagement | October 28, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

"Blatche is clearly not in regular season basketball game shape. He looks overweight and slow."

He looked overweight and slow at the beginning of last season. And the one before that. See a pattern there?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

And if Gil played tonight we may have lost by 40. This was as much a defensive loss as it was a bad shooting night.

JW and Kirk played pretty good all things considering..

Wow

Posted by: kevenjones | October 28, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

What are you smoking?

Posted by: NewManagement | October 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

I highly doubt his "scheme" called for McGee to stand flat footed while Gortat drove by him multiple times for flushes, or for Blatche to stand flat-footed while Magic players went over, under, around, and through him for rebounds at both ends.

Are those the only 2 players you watch, or just the only two you like to hate? Hinrich sucked, Wall was lost, Yi was weak, Armstrong was atrocious, the list goes on....and Flip was intentionally creating bad matchups to try and "wreak havoc" in transitional defense. Focus on AB/JM all you want, team was lousy from top-to-bottom and looked poorly coached.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Grunfeld can assemble, blow up and reassemble this team as many times as he likes, but he'll still sculpt a team with the same flaws. Skinny bigs with no physicality or interior presence (Blatche, Mcgee, Armstrong, Yi), hard-working tweeners short on skills (Booker this year, D-Mac last), and zero-d shoot-first offensive players with no concept of team or ball movement (Arenas, Young, Blatche). Young, Arenas and Blatche and - I am beginning to fear - Mcghee, will forever lack the maturity, toughness and dedication to fill out a championship squad. Dwight Howard, already a bona-fide established All-World first team player, spent the summer hitting the court with The Dream, while the nearing 30 Arenas goes John Walker Lindh and fakes injuries, six-year vet Blatche regresses and Young, now 26 in the 'prime' of his pro career btw, continues to look as lost as a High School senior making a premature jump to the NBA. Mcghee has promise, but entering his third year should have developed more fundamentals by now. With the exception of Wall and Hinrich, our players have have flaws... physically, mentally and in terms of maturity. Only one man is responsible for assembling the team: Grunfeld. Leonsis needs to divert his attention from putting cupholders in the Phone Booth and focus on assembling a proper GM and scouting department. Flip, meanwhile, clearly lacks the shock and awe needed to whip young'uns and vets alike into shape. That game was awful, maybe the worst I've seen 30+ years of watching an awful team.

Posted by: SammyT1 | October 28, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

"Hinrich sucked, Wall was lost, Yi was weak, Armstrong was atrocious, the list goes on....a"

True. But irrelevant, nonetheless. None of them is the guy who proclaimed himself the go-to guy during his stretch of putting up inflated numbers in losing games last season. None of them is the guy who complained about being underpaid. None of them is the guy who got the big contract extension a few weeks ago, despite still having several years guaranteed on his deal. None of them (other than Wall) carries the level of expectation that Blatche does. He can't be judged by the same standard as Yi or Hinrich (neither of whom will likely be on this team in 2 years regardless of how well poorly they play).

It's not about numbers or looks. It's about effort, attitude, and leadership. He's never shown any before, but made a big deal about this being the year. So far, not so good.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Even with the Arenas of old this team will be the worse Bullets/Wizards Team in club history! The young players will learn to have a losing attitude and learn not to care.

Posted by: moralcompass1 | October 28, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

To be clear: I don't have a problem with anything that is or isn't in his statline. The Magic are leagues better than the Wizards and showed it. I said days ago I expected the Wiz to get rolled by Orlando. The problem isn't that he missed shots, it's the shots he took. The problem wasn't that he got beatten on the boards, it's that he didn't compete/put up a fight on the boards. He played lazy. He settled. He barely even tried.

As I recall, you were the one who said that you wanted to see effort and hard play, even if they got blown out. You also said you'd be "100% okay" with jumpshots from Blatche as long as they were within 15 feet.


How'd that work out for ya?

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

None of them is the guy who proclaimed himself the go-to guy during his stretch of putting up inflated numbers in losing games last season. None of them is the guy who complained about being underpaid. None of them is the guy who got the big contract extension a few weeks ago, despite still having several years guaranteed on his deal.

None of them spent the past 3 months with a cast on their foot either, what's their excuse?

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:37 PM | Report abuse

You also said you'd be "100% okay" with jumpshots from Blatche as long as they were within 15 feet.


How'd that work out for ya?

Better than your boy Greg Monroe's game looked last night.

I said earlier AB might come out and be terrible after months off, unfortunately that what happened. Not that big a deal imo

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

@SammyT1

How are you gonna already call Trevor Booker - Dominic Mcguire. He's played one game and he was a way better college player then Dominic could ever dream of being. Don't speak so much hate it's one game. "Better check yourself before you wreck yourself"

Posted by: masonkyle | October 28, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

@NewManagement,

See you don't know what you were looking @ if you don't think it COULD'VE been worse if Gil played.

I say that because the defensive end is where we really got crushed. Yes our shot selection stunk and yes we shot a poor percentage because of that.

But we all know Gil will not and does not play defense. And in a game like this, unless he shot 65% then it could've been worse.

So what you think if Gil scored 25 we would have been in this game.

The question is what the hell are you smoking??

Posted by: kevenjones | October 28, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

"Better than your boy Greg Monroe's game looked last night."

Only barely, which is quite a feat for Blatche, since Monroe didn't even play. Your boy Blatche had marginally more impact than a rookie who didn't log a single minute of PT. Well done. sir! Well done, indeed!

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

He can't be judged by the same standard as Yi or Hinrich (neither of whom will likely be on this team in 2 years regardless of how well poorly they play).

Why not? I thought KH is Mr.Everything and Yi is being given a shot to finally stick somewhere. Why wouldnt KH be here if he's as good as EG thinks? If Yi plays well, why not sign him?

Flip named KH and Wall the captains right? But they shouldnt be held to same standard as AB/JM? I dont see that. Everybody needs a look in mirror after tonight.

Posted by: divi3 | October 28, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

"I have said this repeatedly; the Wizards need Arenas. Wall needs him badly. Wall plus Arenas will be pure magic. Wall alone will be a long season. Those who insist of getting rid of Arenas need to know Wall is not built to carry a team alone. He needs a superstar sidekick. That person is Arenas.
Posted by: RickJohnson621"

Well, you've repeated it again, and it doesn't make any more sense than the first time.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 28, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone who thinks Arenas would make a difference in this game must have broke out the good stuff to celebrate opening night.
Posted by: kalo_rama"

Crack, most likely.

maybe if Gilbert had spiked the Magic's Gatorade supply with benzos...

Posted by: Samson151 | October 28, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

"I dont see that."

Add it to the list then, I guess.

Posted by: kalo_rama | October 28, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Lack of defence and poor outside shooting lost this game against 1 of the league's best. If I was the coach, I would sit AB for playing out of position. I would tell all the 7-footers to dunk the ball whenever you can. I would expect the shooting guard to be a top-scorer, and the starting center to lead in rebounding.
That's just me.

Posted by: SM33 | October 29, 2010 12:08 AM | Report abuse

This effort was positively Grunfeldian.

I would say they mailed it in but I don't think they could have hit the mailbox.

I see more ping pong balls in our future.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | October 29, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Superior opponent and inability to put our best player on the court aside, the team looked listless. McGee showed zero smarts or "presence" again. I'll give Blatche a pass cuz we know he's "not yet in shape." That aside, there was no offensive or defensive continuity other than, apparently, putting the ball in Wall's hands. Surely EVERYONE knew in advance that teams are gonna slack off him until he unequivocally PROVES he can hit a jump shot. So, did Saunders tell him and the team to continue taking the first open shot rather than moving the ball two or three passes away to someone more wide open (or to at least force Magic players to have to move their feet and THINK??? Dayum!

Posted by: dcjazzman | October 29, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Whew, that was damn near unwatchable, but I didn't expect great things this season. It's called REBUILDING. We are stocking up on salary cap space and young potential. This team will have many more nights like this. However, I expect them to be much more competitive later in the season bc John Wall is not even acclimated yet and we get JH back for some leadership. JM is embarrassing. I knew he would be the key to any success they may have and if tonight is the indicator we are in serious trouble.

Divi, didn't you have JM making the all-star team this season or next? LMAO What a joke! I've never seen a lower basketball IQ vs athletic prowess. How hard is it to read plays in basketball??? No sense or court awareness...nothing. NY is the same way. Just complete morons in that department. NY has got to go...tired of his act. JM has more time.

And, AT is a crappier taller version of Ledell Eackles, which is to say not very good.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 29, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Somebody wrote that if the Wiz had had Gilbert tonight, they might well have cut the margin to 28 points.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 29, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Mr Flip Saunders,
you had all off season sir
you got the number 1 pick in the draft sir
you had the summer league sir
you had preseason sir
Mr. Saunders you had over six months prep time before facing the orlando magic on national television sir
and this is what you come up with? this is all the effort your team could muster after 6+ months of prep time?
Mr. Flip Saunders after watching your team play tonight all I could come up with is three words: THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!

Posted by: ronniecope106 | October 29, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Somebody, probably Grunfeld, will probably remind everyone here that they are rebuilding from scratch, per Mr. Leonsis, and games like these are expected. That's why they didn't spend big money on big time free agents, but instead, signed and acquired a lot of has-beens for the reason of.....uhhh.....yeah, collecting more lottery picks going forward.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 29, 2010 12:52 AM | Report abuse

"How are you gonna already call Trevor Booker - Dominic Mcguire. He's played one game and he was a way better college player then Dominic could ever dream of being. Don't speak so much hate it's one game. "Better check yourself before you wreck yourself""

I saw him in preseason and summer league as well. Tough as nails and good attitude, but it is already obvious that he lacks the skill set to play SF, and is too small to play PF. Might he play on the team for a couple years? Sure. But when you are trying to assemble a 'contender', these are the sorts of deficiencies you have to compensate for that separate the poor and mediocre from the good and elite. Your bigs need to be big, period, and skilled, preferably very skilled. No good upbringing and work ethic can erase that. And that's what Grunfeld doesn't get. Etan Thomas: undersized center with no ball skills. Blatche: skinny power forward whose idea of working out is pounding the Xbox. Mcghee, skinny center who hasn't packed on size nor shown an inclination to expand his game: Pecherov: rail thin big who likes to shoot threes. Yi: athletic but skinny PF with slow reaction time and no flow. Hilton Armstrong: skinny unskilled big. That is what you call a pattern. That game was boys against men, not just in terms of professionalism, but in size, athleticism, muscle, talent. It is Grunfeld's job to bring those guys here, and that of Leonsis to bring someone in who can.

Posted by: SammyT1 | October 29, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm at least glad that Grunfeld traveled to O-Town to witness this debacle that he created first hand. It's not the first time he's built something that collapsed.

Also, another positive was that this game was broadcast on TNT, so you got some good analysis and commentary vice homer style chit chat from Bucky and Phil.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | October 29, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

i'm laughing at all the suckers that dropped $ on season tickets this year drinking the koolaid thinking they were going to be good...they won't win 30 games this year.

Posted by: wizinsider | October 29, 2010 12:57 AM | Report abuse

Dwight Howard is a physical specimen who has Patrick Ewing as a big man coach and he now has Hakeem Olajuwan (did I spell that right) as a special big man coach. This may be the difference between a team that wants to win a championship and the Wizards. Gortat, Howard, Lewis, and Pietrus each looked far superior to our bigs. Orlando is deep at every position, they beat everyone in preseason by 25 points or more. We are not in their league yet, and I dont think any other team is either. When they dominated the middle they left us shooting and missing jump shots. We looked like a totally different team, nothing going good. Arenas may have opened some things up for our bigs, but this game was over after 3 minutes with the lineup choices we used. I do not know what we could have done with this team tonight without our having a young Wilt Chamberlain.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | October 29, 2010 1:11 AM | Report abuse

People! We all know that this team is no match for Orlando! Not in the same league. The bad thing aobut it outside of Cartier Martin, nobody played with any guts or heart. We have NO SHOOTERS that can spot up and make shots but Gil. Andrey, NY missed wide open looks constantly. Yi's playing the same way he played in NJ. When the real hormn sounded, no one showed up. I am very disappointed in Javale, starting to wonder if he'll ever get any better. I thought we could win 30-35, the way they played tonight, hope they'll win one!

Posted by: zack5 | October 29, 2010 1:19 AM | Report abuse

I see things have not changed much on the blog...

Grasp reality people yes Ted bought the team but he left the same people in charge and what good does that do?

It's like buying a restaurant that has bad food and service and keeping the GM and Chef hoping they might change?

It's going to be another long season and the only thing I can hope for is Ted gets tired of losing a lot faster then Abe did.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | October 29, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

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