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Gilbert Arenas: "I was on fire a little bit"

By Michael Lee

By Michael Lee  | November 14, 2010; 2:45 PM ET
Categories:  Gilbert Arenas  
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It was good to see him hit shots, but I think it remains to be seen if he can get into a rhythm without dominating the ball.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 14, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

From what I saw, he wasn't trying to dominated the ball. Gil was doing what he is paid to do and that is try to win the game. I, for one, was glad to see him back in rhythm. I can't wait to see how the team is when Josh Howard comes back.

Posted by: ivyleague | November 14, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

But will Flip start him now. There is no question that John and Gill must start together. You would think that the time is now to start Gilbert.

Let's see what our boy Flip does.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 14, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse


Isn't it great that Arenas finally showed up big in a blowout on the road after the Wizards needed an average effort from him at home and he disappointed. He will disappoint and score meaningless buckets until he's traded (2013). How wonderful.

Posted by: ahwyatt | November 14, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

No, it has more to do with the fact that Flip hasn't bought in to Wall and Arenas being the top rated guard tanden in the league and he isn't facilitating that option for this team.

Flip is still in love with Kirk Hinrich.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 14, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Arenas and Wall the "top rated guard tandem in the league. . . " Really? And who, exactly, gave them that rating? Car and Driver? Consumer Reports? Zagats? Because I sure as hell haven't seen any such rating originating from a credible NBA source.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't take a credible source to see that the potential is there for them to be an amazing tandem. With Gil's scoring ability and outside shooting along with Walls ability to facilitate and get to the rim, they could be up there as one of the better backcourts in the Association. If you watch basketball at all you don't need Broussard or Steven A's approval to call them a top rated tandem...when healthy.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | November 14, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

You purposely, I know, left out the most important word, "being" meaning to become, evolving too, not a statement or characterization of now.

Come on Kala_ramo, you are good, but you know, I don't miss much, if not, anything.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 14, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

"You purposely, I know, left out the most important word, "being" meaning to become, evolving too, not a statement or characterization of now."

Wow, that's a rich steaming load, even for you. Hope you didn't tear anything squeezing that baby out.

Of course, anyone who passes grade school English knows every word of that sentence is complete nonsense (not that that's anything new for you). "Being" does not, never has, and never will mean "to become, evolving too (sic)." "Being" means "to be" as in "currently existing."

Here's an example:

"Larry is being such a ridiculous putz these days that he's completely ceased to be even marginally amusing."

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"Come on Kala_ramo, you are good, but you know, I don't miss much, if not, anything."

You clearly missed the week when they covered double negatives and noun/verb agreement in English class.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

@ "Arenas finally showed up big in a blowout on the road"

Blowout? Arenas got them to within 5 with that last 3 pointer with 10 seconds left. That's a two-possession game. The odds weren't on their side with so little time, obviously, but if the Bulls had choked at the line or thrown away an inbounds pass, they might possibly have pulled it out. It's happened plenty of times in the NBA. Arenas scored most of those points against the Bulls' first unit, too.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | November 14, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I sure don't see Gilbert and John as the league's best guard tandem... looks to me like they're still struggling to play together. That shouldn't surprise anybody. You've got two players who are accustomed to having the ball most of the time, and one who hasn't practiced very much to date. I would guess that both would rather play next to Hinrich at present -- he's the complementary type.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 14, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Gilby was on fire last night? Did he have some bad Thai takeout? Oh yeah, the game! Yeah!

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

"It doesn't take a credible source to see that the potential is there for them to be an amazing tandem. With Gil's scoring ability and outside shooting along with Walls ability to facilitate and get to the rim, they could be up there as one of the better backcourts in the Association. If you watch basketball at all you don't need Broussard or Steven A's approval to call them a top rated tandem...when healthy.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | November 14, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse "

Yeah, the CWebb/JHoward/Muresan team had some amazing potential too. How'd that turn out?

The little 3 of Caron/MeTawn/Gilby had some amazing potential too. How'd that turn out?

Lesson: Don't get too giddy on potential.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, just maybe, the more confident Gilby gets, the more he's going to come out of his shell and impose himself. Just maybe, but look for it. I hope he does, and see how that works out.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

The two players ARE already good. Time with each other will allow them to grow. Muresan was whatever and so was Juwan. We def traded the wrong power forward(Webber). Wall is already averaging close to if not a double double. Gils scoring ability should never be questioned. But yeah they def need to start winning some games..wouldn't put the losing on those two though.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | November 14, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Arenas and Wall the "top rated guard tandem in the league. . . " Really? And who, exactly, gave them that rating? Car and Driver? Consumer Reports? Zagats? Because I sure as hell haven't seen any such rating originating from a credible NBA source.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

It is not a stretch to envision this guard tandem as one of the better guard duos as the season evolves. Arenas clearly is not in top condition but you have to be positive about the way he is playing and the fact that he can be a greater offensive factor as he gets his legs. One of the things I am curious about is whether other posters and close up observers have noticed the improvement on the defensive side of the ball for Arenas (even with his decreased athleticism over the first few weeks of the season).

If last season is a comparable, I suspect that Arenas will continue to improve as his rhytym and confidence grows. One other issue that has not been addressed is the weak on ball defense of our guards which is placing even more pressure on our front line. Quite simply, our guards and small forwards have got to do a better job fighting over picks on screen roll. Name one game where we have knocked a picker on his ass or our guards have fought over the top. Either they are going under the pick which gives good 3 point shooters an open look (like New York and last night)or forcing the "hedge and switch" which is leading to layups. It ain't always the Centers fault when someone elses man gets a layup. It seems Javale is the easy target.

Lastly, is it me or are other teams in better physical condition than our players?

Posted by: NewManagement | November 14, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"It ain't always the Centers fault when someone elses man gets a layup."

Yes it is, because with the current rules, it's all but impossible for perimeter defenders to to keep top flight odd the dribble scorers under control in 1-on-1 defense the entire game. Even the best defenders are going to get beaten. The no hand-checking rules made sure of that. And when someone gets beaten on the perimeter, it's the Cs job to rotate in help defense and protect the rim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"It ain't always the Centers fault when someone elses man gets a layup."
Yes it is, because with the current rules, it's all but impossible for perimeter defenders to to keep top flight odd the dribble scorers under control in 1-on-1 defense the entire game. Even the best defenders are going to get beaten. The no hand-checking rules made sure of that. And when someone gets beaten on the perimeter, it's the Cs job to rotate in help defense and protect the rim.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 14, 2010 9:54 PM

Well no, it would not be just the Cs job to rotate in help defense and protect the rim. If that is the philosophy that Flip is working off of, then it is no wonder that McGee/the Wizs can't protect the basket.

Protecting the basket is the job of three men together and not one. The rotation of the C along with his two forwards is paramount in good interior play and protection of the basket. Then you couple that with good coordination of strong guard play.

Any team that believes that the C is only responsible for the basket is doomed to failure, like the Wizards.

Just for the reasons you site Kalo_ramo, it is impossible for the C to only be responsible for the basket, for at any given time and sit' on the floor he will not be in the proper position to protect the rim.

It must be a collective effort of interior big man and the team to protect the basket with todays volatile game.

The days of the C being the last line of D at the hoop is long gone. Post players too include the 2 Fs don't hang out in the paint nowadays. In fact they spread the floor just so in fact the basket is free to allow free reign to it.

McGee just can't hang at the rim and guard his man too. The basket must be protected by positioning on the floor when the basket is attacked it may not be that the C has or is in the most advantageous position in todays game.

It appears from your comment Kalo_rama that you don't understand today's interior play very well and apparently Flip Saunders doesn't either, with his penchant not to shore up his Big Man game on the floor.

Flip likes playing with two forwards and hope they can guard the rim. I like playing with a Center and two forwards that can help each other guard the rim.

Check out LA, Boston, San Antonio, Miami, Detroit, Houston, teams that have won NBA championships with a C and two forwards.

Where in the hell does the Wizards get off using two forwards to protect the rim when it has never been done before, or even only two bigs.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 15, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

Larry,

There seems to be something personal between you and kalo_rama for him to make such an ado over mere semantics -- on a message board no less.

At any rate, I understand what you are saying and agree with your assessment that Wall and Arenas have the potential to be a dynamic and top-flight backcourt duo. Some have used the Piston's backcourt of Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumars as a comparitive model for what Wall and Arenas can evolve into. Those are some legendary sneakers to fill, but the level of productivity and tenacity that Thomas and Dumars represent is an achievable, if not surpassable, goal for guards of their talent and drive. Several variable factors remain, but the potential is definitely there, IMHO.

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | November 15, 2010 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Arenas:Wall tandem is going to make our front ourt better.Defense will be intensified on both,it will be up to the soft front court to take advantage, other wise trade JM and AB.Are the nets willing to give Favours for JM ?

Posted by: gtefferra | November 15, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

It's just so great to see Gilbert smiling again.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | November 15, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that Wall and Arenas could be a top flight tandem.

I also don't think there is much reason to get super pissy about a statement like that.

I do agree with DCMan that potential can be a four letter word, results are of course what we want. But I think everyone on earth would agree that you have to have potential to even get a hair of a chance at results.

This team is young. Flip is probably being reviewed by the new ownership as they start to chart a course. This isn't Ted's first rodeo.

Posted by: gconrads | November 15, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Wall and Arenas can certainly be a great tandem in this leauge.

Gil is looking much better in defense. He started off bad in the New York game giving up the baseline and allowing Wilson Chandler to posterize Javalle with that reverse tomahawk jam. Gil looked like he wanted to bring us back in that game too but we never really recovered after that dunk. That too was his first game this season.

He always starts the grill around game #10 when he's been healthy. We have never started the season good even in our most recent winning seasons with Gilbert. If he can finish one game takeover amidst a big game, there will be danger for opposing teams.

I was very surprised to see Gil push up on Derrick Rose full court at one point in the Bulls game. He has the ability to be an all NBA defensive guard with his speed and quick hands. It looks like he understands that his game needs to change especially on the defensive side of the ball for the Wiz to be successful.

On Gil dominating the ball. He is a closer, period. Yes, he struggled against Charlotte but the Wizards still need Gil getting buckets to be successful. He hasn't has the ball enough in my opinion. Yes, Larry from Clinton is definitely right that Gilbert needs to start at the two. Flips experiment with Kirk Hinrich has gone on too long now. Gil looks healthy again. We need him to put pressure on opposing defenses again. Kirk Hinrich should be the first guard off the bench to spell Gil or JWall.

Posted by: JWADE4 | November 15, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

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