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Posted at 12:50 AM ET, 11/ 6/2010

John Wall, Wizards have turnover-filled outing in Gilbert Arenas's regular season debut

By Michael Lee

You might want to calm down before you take my team record for turnovers in a game. (AP Photo/Paul J. Bereswill)


After the Wizards' 112-91 loss to the New York Knicks on Friday, Gilbert Arenas sat with a ice pack on his left knee and his right foot in a bucket of ice when he was asked if he had ever seen a player as fast with the ball as John Wall. Arenas smiled and nodded, "Yeah. Me...at 20."

That would have to be proven with some tapes of Arenas's first season in Golden State, but the 10th year veteran guard can relate to some of the struggles that Wall had against the Knicks as they did everything in their power to neutralize that speed. The Knicks ran back on defense to limit his fastbreak options. The big men did a better job of showing in pick-and-roll situations and made him think about other options. And they attacked him with veteran point guard Raymond Felton, whom the Knicks signed as a free agent last summer, and second-year guard Toney Douglas, who used his quick hands to easily pick Wall's pockets twice in the third quarter.

Wall had seven assists in his Madison Square Garden debut to give him 38 through his first four games -- the most for any player not named Oscar Robertson through the first four games, but he missed 11 of his 14 shots and committed a career-high nine turnovers -- three shy of Arenas's franchise record of 12. He made several errors of aggression, and now has 17 turnovers in his past two games after getting just six in his first two.

"He's got to trust his jump shot, trust that midrange," Arenas said about Wall. "Once he gets comfortable shooting it, we shouldn't have games like this, but he's still learning, game by game, he's getting better at something."

Arenas played 26 minutes in his season debut, but he shared the floor with Wall for roughly 15 minutes on Friday night. They never connected on an assist, but they were in constant communication, with Wall telling Arenas to make plays and Arenas urging Wall to provide a spark after Arenas scored 14 fourth-quarter points and got tired. Arenas told Wall not to focus on him and do what he had been doing. But after dishing out five assists -- all to a red-hot Andray Blatche -- in the first quarter, Wall was unable to keep it going, often passing him up his own scoring opportunities to pass to an open, but often unsuspecting, teammate.

"His greatest strength can be his greatest weakness. He's so competitive, and he knows he can make plays when things go bad; he wants to try to make something happen sometimes," Coach Flip Saunders said. "He's got in a situation the last couple of games where he's trying to create something where there's nothing there. It's almost like a young quarterback in football that starts trying to throw into coverage, and that's where he's getting some of his turnovers, and so that's something he's going to have to watch film, he's going to have to look at it, and other guys are going to have to help him out a little bit, get better spacing for him, too."


Aw man, I usually put other people in posters. (AP Photo/Paul J. Bereswill)

Blatche was unstoppable early, as he scored the Wizards' first six points had 16 points in the first quarter. Blatche had his way with Amar'e Stoudemire, as he hit two long jumpers to open the game, then worked his way inside for finger rolls and layups.

He made his first seven field goal attempts before the Knicks decided to move Stoudemire off of him and started pressuring him with Ronny Turiaf and Wilson Chandler. "It wasn't like I was doing nothing spectacular. I was coming off pick and rolls, when I rolled up, I took open shots and took them and I made them," Blatche said. "And throughout the course of the game, they made a adjustments and they stopped that."

Blatche would later miss his next seven shots and let his frustrations show when he lost his cool some in the second period. JaVale McGee swooped in for an offensive rebound putback, but Blatche got tangled with Knicks reserve Ronny Turiaf. As the headed back to the other end of the court, Blatche shoved Turiaf in the back, picking up a technical foul.

"He might have shot his load after that first quarter and not have a lot of juice left," Saunders said about Blatche. "Dray didn't go into the post nearly as much as he was early. I think, whether he tweaked his foot or ankle, he didn't seem to be moving quite as well."

Arenas appeared to be moving fine after being out of action for nearly three weeks. He still had trouble closing out on shooters and didn't do McGee any favors in the second quarter when he let Wilson Chandler blow by him along the baseline and throw down a reverse jam over McGee. But Arenas is still trying to develop his rhythm and comfort zone with the team getting acclimated with him.

"I didn't know what was expected from me," Arenas said. "I didn't want to interfere with what John's been doing, because he's been playing phenomenal basketball. I didn't want him to think that he needs to focus on me. But he knows, when he's going, I'll spot and when he's tired, I'll go."

Arenas decided to go in the fourth quarter, when he started to heat up. He missed four of his first five shots, but had a one-man rally in the first five minutes of the final period. He made five of his first six shots in the period and scored 14 points. "First couple of them I rushed it, just being nervous out there. In the fourth quarter I felt comfortable," Arenas said.

But after Arenas brought the Wizards within 94-88 with a step-back jumper, they missed 5 of 6 shots and committed six turnovers as they got outscored 18-3 down the stretch. "We couldn't get another shot to fall. We couldn't get open," Blatche said. "We couldn't get into our plays, they just outworked us."

The Wizards allowed the Knicks to shoot 50.5 percent from the floor, but Saunders said he was mostly upset that his team committed 25 turnovers, which led to 29 points for the Knicks. "On the road, you turn it over like that, you don't give yourself a chance," he said.

Blatche said that it's too early to overreact over the loss, which dropped the Wizards to 0-3 on the road this season. "We're still learning each other. We're still getting into each other's groove and rhythm. Still going through all of that. If this same situation is going on in Game 50, then it's a problem. We still have a chance to go on a 10-game winning streak, we still have all kind of chances. We can't get upset right now about this loss."

By Michael Lee  | November 6, 2010; 12:50 AM ET
 
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Comments

This team is horrific of course! The lack of defense, alone, will allow for them to lose, at least, 50 games. Throw in their inability to protect the ball, add another 10 losses. Also, enough about the rookie and his assist #'s through the first two games, three games, etc. I think he has set an NBA record for most turnovers through the first 2 games, 3 games, 4 games, etc. Ugly, Ugly.

Posted by: jwing14 | November 6, 2010 2:32 AM | Report abuse

The big difference in this game and most Wiz games is coaching.
Knicks move the balloon offense. Physical in yo face defense.
Wiz with "twitch" at the helm, walk the ball on offense, leading to lost time and panic at the shot clock. Too much one on one.
Defensively JM should never leave the post. Keep switching to keep him near the lane. Double the ball elsewhere and aggressive on the perimeter. No more jump outa by bigs.
Still have not seen Yi, AB, Jm front line. Why not Twitch? Let the other team try matchup?
Kh is a backup point guard at best. Not a 2, definitely not a 3.
Jw needs to take his open shots, make them or not. The defense is forcing him to shoot and he is forcing the pass or drive, while he has open shots. Needs to force the action.
As for Ga, he has his jumper and set 3, too early to write off his lift, with site ankle, knee and groin.

Posted by: mricklen | November 6, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

All I'm sayin' is we should have NEVEr let Roger Mason Jr. leave. The kid lit us up AGAIN last night!

Posted by: Blurred | November 6, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse


hey ted, dump the LOSER arenas

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2010 7:20 AM | Report abuse

Okay, this is totally random, but where the (blank) is kevin seraphin. I've seen highlights and seen him in person, he isn't that bad? Thanks.
Also, does anyone else get the vibe that gilbert isn't trying? He doesn't take the ball to the hole at all anymore. For some reason he is now a pass first guard. COME ON GIL. You know your roll, please fulfill it. Lastly, AB and JM are idiots. They cannot play defense (Especially help D) how hard is it to coach that? Does anyone agree with me?

Posted by: gilmax93 | November 6, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse


nothings changed, it's all about arenas, the thug wannabe

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Gilbert is not a thug wannabe. Half of the nba has at least one gun. Gilbert is more of a dumbA/jokester. He didnt think it was a big deal. The guy is so light hearted and nice he couldn't hurt a fly. He literally was showing them off. He is so dumb for bringing them to the arena. But he is done regardless because of his knee. He needs to train harder and proove everyone wrong.

Posted by: gilmax93 | November 6, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

BTW, I don't worry much about those turnovers from Wall. Deron Williams, who for my money is the best PG in the game, had 8 to go with 6 assists against the Warriors last night. It's just a sign of a team out of sync. Once corrected, the numbers decrease.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

"What, to make blowouts like tonight only by 21 instead of 31?Posted by: DC_MAN88"

This game alone means little to either team. The Knicks won at home, which placates their fans for, oh, half an hour. The Wiz lost on the road, which I anticipate they will be doing a LOT this season (which brings up the question of why fanz seem so surprised). We know Wall is going to swing from good to bad performances for awhile, until he figures out how to play in the NBA. Going into the game, the real question was the first pairing of Arenas and Wall -- how would it go?

I thought it started sloppy and got better. Arenas can hit that long open jumper -- something he didn't do much in that 32 game stint last season. He can still get to the basket, although as others have pointed out, he's not finishing the way he once did. I didn't see anything wrong with his ball-handling. And his effort was there.

So overall, that's a positive. Something to improve on. If Gil can do that in the 4th quarter, he can do it earlier in the game, too.

As for the margin of victory, I quote Yannick Noah's advice to his son Joakim after a bad loss: "Better to lose one game by 50 points than 50 games by one point."

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

IMO Felton and Stoudemire shows signs of making a real difference for the Knicks this season. Teams have to adjust their defenses and that seems to free up the team's many jump shooters, including Gallinari, who D'Antoni claims is the best 3 point shooter he's seen. Having role players like Toney Douglas and Big Tim the Russian doesn't hurt either. That's a better team than last year. No real danger to any of the stronger clubs in the East, but I'm sure the NBA is glad to see some improvement in the NY area.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

The big difference in this game and most Wiz games is coaching.
Knicks move the balloon offense. Physical in yo face defense.
Wiz with "twitch" at the helm, walk the ball on offense, leading to lost time and panic at the shot clock. Too much one on one.
Defensively JM should never leave the post. Keep switching to keep him near the lane. Double the ball elsewhere and aggressive on the perimeter. No more jump outa by bigs.
Still have not seen Yi, AB, Jm front line. Why not Twitch? Let the other team try matchup?
Kh is a backup point guard at best. Not a 2, definitely not a 3.
Jw needs to take his open shots, make them or not. The defense is forcing him to shoot and he is forcing the pass or drive, while he has open shots. Needs to force the action.
As for Ga, he has his jumper and set 3, too early to write off his lift, with site ankle, knee and groin.

Posted by: mricklen | November 6, 2010 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Outstanding assessment of the game!!! DUDE, you need to coach this team! I know we couldn’t do any worse. Flip needs to start coaching or start looking for his next job!

Posted by: bazteal | November 6, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

nothings changed, it's all about arenas, the thug wannabe

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Woo! Where is this coming from? I thought we were past this. Some folk....

Posted by: bazteal | November 6, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

nothings changed, it's all about arenas, the thug wannabe

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Woo, where is this coming from! I thought we were pass this? Some folk...

"Can we all just get along."

Posted by: bazteal | November 6, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Dump Arenas?? How could anyone think that. He played well within the system last night. Him and Wall simply need time to get acclimated. This season is going exactly as I'd hoped. Our young team shows promise but eventually fails to win the games due to lack of talent and size. Allowing us to procure hopefully a top three pick in next years draft. We are not built to win now. Lets just enjoy getting to watch Wall develop this year, hopefully developing some chemistry with Arenas, then get the best big man we can in next years draft.

Though if Arenas proves himself, and we could get some young talent and a pick, we have to make the move. Wall is the future.

Posted by: mike311 | November 6, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Outstanding assessment of the game!!! DUDE, you need to coach this team! I know we couldn’t do any worse. Flip needs to start coaching or start looking for his next job!

Posted by: bazteal | November 6, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Oh, FLIP's on trial here, make no mistake. If you remember, TED said he waited and watched. He'll give FLIP enough rope to hang himself, if that's warranted. Meanwhile, LEONSIS is studying in a crash course on NBA floor management techniques. I don't know what his tolerance limits are, but if FS is not effective he'll be gone soon enough. ERNIE G with him too, most likely. Patience is the order of the day. BTW, thanks to Comcast for giving us the CAPS instead. I didn't have to watch the WIZZIES wet themselves in the GARDEN at least. We don't get CSN plus telecast here in RICHMOND. So I am relieved. Despise hockey, so I was free to watch something else which I did. Ha, ha, cable network. The joke's on you.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 6, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

John Wall looked hurt; at least a lil gimpy, from the opening tip. The team looked unprepared and the rotations on defense were pretty bad. Gil was a bright spot, but Kirk has to give us more. NY needs to be a factor off the bench. I dunno if Gil being the designated scorer for the second unit threw him off, but i didn't see the whole game so i'll defer to you guys. Oh yeah and i think Flip is kinda not a great coach either.The knicks had a dunk contest on us last night, where's the defense

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

YOU should be watching the Capitals every time, all the time this year! The jokes is on people still watching the Wizards this year hoping for miracles to happen. The Capitals are where the Wizards should be 4 years from now, a proven team with true championship aspirations. Definitely watch the Capitals anytime when there is a simulcast of both teams to 1)watch a true winner and 2)lower your blood pressure.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 6, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Dray was basically done after he started limping, looked like a 45yr old man during the 2nd half.

Great to see Gil have his stroke like that, single-handedly kept us in the game.

Wall looked a bit spent from the get-go, we'll see how he reacts to back-to-back...

Yi is terrible. So much for the reclamation project or whatever, he's EXACTLY the player that was given away. Oh well, can't blame him for being what he was when EG decided to sign him.

Hinrich is unfortunately who I said he was all summer. So much for "premier perimeter defender" and all that noise. But again, can't blame a guy for being himself and he's a good player when in the proper situation.

Nick Young. Flip, why not run a few plays for him after the 20pt outburst? Looked like KH found him on a set play when he came in the game, after that...nada. Nick is dialing it in on defense. Get him some looks.

Mcgee- definitely a presence last night. Altering untold shots and battling for boards. The fouls kill him and he needs to learn. Two games now where Flip sits him with 5 and doesnt put him back in. Why? 8pts/8rebs in 24mins, 4-5 FG. Let him play with 5 fouls, if he goes out, so be it. He needs to learn that situation, I really dont get it.

Posted by: divi3 | November 6, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I dunno if Gil being the designated scorer for the second unit threw him off, but i didn't see the whole game so i'll defer to you guys.

Our boy was definitely exerting defensive effort, fighting through screens, not losing his man or looking lost. Not that he was all Bruce Bowen or anything, but he is playing defense this season (so far). Hit his first bucket Rip stylie...I agree with ts35 that Nick and KH could form a nice 2nd unit tandem. The passer and The gunner. But after that he got very few touches considering he is a 'spark' kinda guy

Posted by: divi3 | November 6, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Hard to argue with JohnWWW -- just because the boys wear bullets jerseys and you want them to win, won't make them better. Bullets are the most insignificant team in the NBA the last 30 years and nothing has really changed. So, they got the first pick in the draft...he ain't 7' post player, he's someone that goes 100 mph with no change of pace and no jumper and a turnover machine who plays with a bunch of dleaguers.

Posted by: jwing14 | November 6, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

funny how Caps fans are all insecure, dont worry, John Wall becoming a bigger star than Ovie isnt anyone's fault it's just the nature of the games

Posted by: divi3 | November 6, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

gilmax93,

I don't think it is the case that Gilbert "isn't trying."

I think he is still trying to figure out his "Robin" role, and does not want to take "Batman" role away from Wall. As they play more together, they can get used to each other, and this problem should ease. However, if coach continues to put Gil in the 2nd unit during practice, it may take longer.

Yeah, our #17 pick apparently is not good enough to be activated for the game, and Booker played less than 2 minutes last night, was involved in 2 turnovers, and picked up 1 foul. I would take Singleton over Booker any day.

Posted by: sagaliba | November 6, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Wizards big men are softies. Javale hasn't improved one bit. All he knows is dunk the ball and jump high to block shots. Needs to learn post up moves and also control the baseline and be physical on defense. Blatche doesn't play defense too. Yi is soft. The big men needs some work to free up some load on Wall, Arenas.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | November 6, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Hit his first bucket Rip stylie...I agree with ts35 that Nick and KH could form a nice 2nd unit tandem. The passer and The gunner. But after that he got very few touches considering he is a 'spark' kinda guy

Posted by: divi3 | November 6, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I saw that j off the curl. If they can get that play down I'll be happy, cuz Nicks jumper looks pure when he's squared up to the basket. I kinda like how JWall finds NY on delayed breaks and in the halfcourt vs Kirk, but it's painfully obvious that Cap'n Kirk needs to hit the pine regardless.

Did anyone else think Wall looked hurt last night? Early on he was really trying to loosen his legs up, he had the heating pad on his knee, and he didn't appear to be able to blow by his man at will like he has been in the past few games,preseason and summer league. I know Buck mentioned knee tendonitis. Just wondering if Flip will consider droppin his mins a lil bit.

Speaking of Flip

"He might have shot his load after that first quarter and not have a lot of juice left," Saunders said about Blatche

Really Flipper? You can't get through an interview without ripping the kid. Drat was all we had goin in the first quarter. Without him this game may be over at half time. My thing is Flip knew he was hurt and out of shape. You knew there was a conditioning issue. Dray is working his way back into shape, all the while giving us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy more than flip's personal fluffer KH, whose performances this season have gone unmentioned (he's playing pretty poorly, all things considered)

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Needs to learn post up moves and also control the baseline and be physical on defense.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | November 6, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm convinced this is a coaching problem of miscommunication. i know what you're talking about. When opposing wing players drive the baseline, or penetrate in general, I'm seeing Javale trying to find his man or body up to his man. it looks as if he's trying to "stay home" to protect a drop off pass to his man. If you don't follow i can dig it, but it just seems like he's not attacking guys driving to the basket as much as he's waiting to be sure they'e shooting before he jumps. i've seen something like this happen in each of the games this year. Looka t the way he watches jameer nelson waltz to the rim as he tries to find DH12, or how many times felton turned the corner, but Javale was too busy trying to find Amare. i dunno if that's what it is, but the defensive rotations are abysmal, and Javale doesn't look very aggresive on defense.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"

YOU should be watching the Capitals every time, all the time this year! The jokes is on people still watching the Wizards this year hoping for miracles to happen. The Capitals are where the Wizards should be 4 years from now, a proven team with true championship aspirations. Definitely watch the Capitals anytime when there is a simulcast of both teams to 1)watch a true winner and 2)lower your blood pressure. Posted by: JohnWWW"

Um, no offense, but did you watch that playoff series against Montreal last season? The Habs were the eighth seed. That was probably the worst exhibition of playoff hockey in a decade. With the Wiz, you know they're going to lose a lot. The Caps were almost more painful.

Talk about a selective memory...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Coaching my friends. The Wiz played one game in 6 days, Knicks 2nd game of back to back. Which team showed more energy and discipline?
Which team seemed more prepared?
Amazing how unprepared and undisciplined one franchise can be.
No improvement in any of the youngins.
Still the bigs casually try to set picks. They are sloppy and uncommited. This is coaching. Or lack of it. Twitch is pathetic. Where are the game adjustments, the pregame preparation?
Yes the skill level is wanting. But good coaches maximize the available talent. Does anyone think this is the case with "Twitch"?

Posted by: mricklen | November 6, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Um, no offense, but did you watch that playoff series against Montreal last season? The Habs were the eighth seed. That was probably the worst exhibition of playoff hockey in a decade. With the Wiz, you know they're going to lose a lot. The Caps were almost more painful.

Talk about a selective memory...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

why are people on here trying to get us to watch hockey? you just sound foolish. and i gotta go with Samson on this one about last year. number 1 team in the league got everybody all amped up and a complete Jenna Jamison Choke job in the first round PUHLEAZ

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Did not get to see the game last night, but it appears with the comments here that my penchant to highlight coaching deficiency will not be one of the few on this board.

It seems Kalo_rama that your penchant to always unmask player deficiency will be matched very well this year with plenty of posters unmasking coaching deficiency.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

With respect to turnovers, it isn't the number that is important, it is when they occurr.

It is a fact that it isn't uncommon for good teams and good players to have a high number of turnovers, simply because they try to do more.

It is when the turnovers occurr that makes them an issue. Teams can overcome the numbers, but it is much harder to overcome a turnover when you are 1,2,3, points down in the twilight of a game.

The John Wooden championship teams always had a fairly good number of turnovers, but not in critical points of games.

The Tarheels, a traditional powerhouse also have a fairly high turnover rate.

The fact that Wall is having a high number is testament that he is doing a lot with the ball, but once he minimizes the critical turnover the number by itself will become a non factor.

So John Wall should not worry so much about the number but when he turns ball over.

Once he figures out the when is far more important than the number he will be just fine.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Larry u and Kal are both right. The team is incomplete,and the coach isn't the savior that we thought he'd be. In fact, we're coming to find out that he's not that great if he doesn't have a veteran laden contender, already warmed up for him to drive. The difference here, is great coaches are at times able to get average or even below average players to play above their level. Whether it's the overall,scheme, or pregame preparations, or scouting reports.Great coaches can get the team to be better than the sum of it's parts. It's early with this unit so we should give them time. But right now Flip looks like he can't motivate this team. Remember, it's not just the knuckleheads that bumped with Flip last year. AJ and CB never rally bought into Flip's coaching or system. Now it's more of the same. Flip Saunders just doesn't seem like the type of guy a player would run through a wall for...........unless it was to get away from him.
But it doesn't all fall on flip, just most of it.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"As for the margin of victory, I quote Yannick Noah's advice to his son Joakim after a bad loss: "Better to lose one game by 50 points than 50 games by one point."

Posted by: Samson151 | November 6, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse "

And a homeless man with a partial lobotomy hanging around a metro station was saying the opposite. Same effect from either person.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 6, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Once he figures out the when is far more important than the number he will be just fine.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

a lot of TOs trying to find guys in the lane. He needs to focus on finishing in the lane so he can start getting more calls going to the rim. It's no fun getting knocked down, turning it over, and not getting the call.If he's batman then he's gotta be the one to save the day, not Gil.I think if he's gonna handle as much as he does he's bound to have a buncha TOs this year, but you're absolutley right Larry he's gotta find a way to limit TOs down the stretch and in clutch moments.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, every one noticed that last night, Knicks made a lot of 3 pointers (12 to wiz's 4, all from Gil), and that Wiz committed too many TOs (23 total, 9 from Wall). But has anyone noticed that Knicks had 11 block shots?! That's right, 11, not a typo!

Posted by: sagaliba | November 6, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Anthony Randolph is barely making it off the bench in NY. I wonder if Knick fans scream about how stoopid D'Antoni is for not playing such a sublime talent. Probably.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 6, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Flip has got to get Wall and Arenas on the fast track together, on the first squad, with Hinrich on the bench.

I am starting to think that Flip has that afraid to succeed syndrome. Or, is he really half-witted?

It is apparent from the comments above that both Gill and Wall need to be playing together. The comments indicate that they were like on their first date.

They had all of training camp together and circumstances indicate that they should be rusty together, but the comments allude to more than just rust.

Wall's numbers last night indicate that he was a bit overwhelmed by the presence of Gilbert and Gilberts comments indicate that he is treating Wall with kid gloves so he will not mess up his groove.

Whether this is coaching or two players not kissing on the first date, sotospeak, Wall and Arenas should be further along than last nights game indicates.

How much of this can be attributed to Hinrich being in the way is debatable, the third wheel, and not a good one at that.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

".....YOU should be watching the Capitals every time, all the time this year!....."

Didn't I make myself clear? I don't watch hockey no way, no how. Can't stand the shyt. Nothing but contempt for the game. Watched it here in RICHMOND for several season's with the ROBINS. Ugh. 2,500 people at a hockey game while 85 people were watching the rookie Dr. J and the VIRGINIA SQUIRES lighting up the scoreboard. No thanx to hockey. I'll take b-ball every time. EVERY time, whether you like it or not. And even if you don't. My life, not yours. Lock it up pal. You're way off base here.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 6, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

We don't get CSN plus telecast here in RICHMOND. So I am relieved. Despise hockey, so I was free to watch something else which I did. Ha, ha, cable network. The joke's on you.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 6, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

It was on like channel 893 or something. Hit the search function on your cable box. Then Sports, then Basketball and scroll til you find the wizards game. Comcast has like 50 extra channels so even when the game is not on a regular channel, you can usually find it somewhere.

Posted by: Blurred | November 6, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse


Wall and Arenas should be further along than last nights game indicates.

How much of this can be attributed to Hinrich being in the way is debatable, the third wheel, and not a good one at that.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 6, 2010 12:32 PM

If Arenas suffers no setbacks and Hinrich is still starting a week from now, we'll know that Flop wants to be fired. Hinrich has looked awful and out of sorts all season. This team needs a credible oustide scoring threat to open things up for Wall and Hinrich ain't it. Flip should bring him off the bench to spell Wall and call it a day.

Posted by: tgif11 | November 6, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Teams like the Knicks and Orlando, which have wide & strong PFs/Cs who play big, will continue to give the Wiz fits until we solidify our interior. Blatche intrigues with his scoring, but also disappears for stretches, lacks concentration, mental toughness and never exhibits the nasty, enforcer inside presence a PF should. Mcghee may turn out to be the best shot blocker in the NBA, but he doesn't understand rotations, has no post moves and lacks the girth necessary to anchor the middle. Armstrong is lucky to be in the NBA, while Booker is both undersized and underskilled. The contenders in the league have bigs who can score and battle in the paint, traits which become even more important during the postseason when teams play with full effort. John Wall will never fulfill his championship destiny, nor his potential, until he has legitimate bigs. The only big we have with the right 'body' for the job is Seraphin, who we haven't seen yet. At some point, we will have to make a play for a traditional interior player or three, which may mean having to part with Blatche or Mcghee in a trade.

Posted by: SammyT1 | November 6, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

YOU should be watching the Capitals every time, all the time this year! The jokes is on people still watching the Wizards this year hoping for miracles to happen. The Capitals are where the Wizards should be 4 years from now, a proven team with true championship aspirations. Definitely watch the Capitals anytime when there is a simulcast of both teams to 1)watch a true winner and 2)lower your blood pressure.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 6, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@HOCKEY IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A THIRD TIER SPORT HERE, NO MATTER HOW WELL THE CAPS DO AND HOW MUCH THE WIZARDS STINK. IT WILL ALWAYS BE SKINS 1ST, WIZARDS 2ND AND maybe CAPS 3RD. SO ACTUALLY WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU? TED IS TRYIN TO PUSH HOCKEY HERE (and has done a great job)BUT, HE REALIZES THE WIZARDS WILL BE HIS TICKET. btw- GO CAPS!!!

Posted by: Mikereese23 | November 6, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

As a matter of fact I'd rather watch a D.C DIVAS game than ANY hockey game. So it MAYBE a 4th tier sport here!

Posted by: Mikereese23 | November 6, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

IF Gene Shue were coach, I'd be cool. But Flip . . . and with Ernie G, no frriggggin way!!! Ernie should go back to NY (or to NJ), and kill HOPE elsewhere.

Peace, |MNR

Posted by: MikeNelmsReturns | November 6, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

nothings changed, it's all about arenas, the thug wannabe

Posted by: hessone | November 6, 2010 7:40 AM | Report abuse)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE TIME THAT DUDE COMMENTED. How can you get up on a Saturday morning HATING on somebody you dont even know. You mean to tell me Gil is bothering you in your sleep? Are you kidding me? LOOK IN THE MIRROR BUDDY. CHECK YOURSELF

Posted by: Mikereese23 | November 6, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Mikereese23
they wake up hatin! lls funniest ever. i didn't even notice the early morning hate.Hilarious

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 6, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Actually hockey is a tuff. You have to expand your mind.There are steals, fastbreaks,stifling defense, zone defense, give and go's, passing out of doublteams, setting your man up to score, and the ability to break your man down and score or draw the defense in to dish to the cutter.

Its all in there but my thoghts above have nothing to do with this blog or the WIZARDS.

With that being said, it was Gils's first game back and they have yet to all play together to define their roles. The team stopped going to him when he finally reached his comfort level and went on the one of his offensive explosions. I almost thought he was going to make it happen. That was his first REGULAR season game back. EXPECT GROWING PAINS early.We have seventy something games left.

Flips rotation will be different with more games. We need Gil for the entire year if he's not traded by the deadline. Hate to see him go but the NBA is a business. I think Gil and JWall could be a very difficult backcourt to guard for years. Don't think peopele will be able to continue to deal with his off-the-court personality.

There will ba another adjustment when Josh Howard comes back.WE can do something.Be patient. AB is coming off and injury. We just need to stay healthy.

JWall will find himself and settle. When he gets the midrange game, he wil be untoppable.

AB will settle too and understand when he should score and everyone will figure out that Gil is the closer. The scarier thought is that we start to depend on him again and then he gets hurt.

Roles have yet to be defined but when they do, there is going to be trouble. Gil,JWall,JHoward,JMcGee,ABlatche and solid backup play together can definitley be a 8th seed if we can somehow stay healthy.Also depends on how healthy other teams are.

Posted by: JWADE4 | November 6, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

i hate that people are making john wall the "leader" of this team. how often does a rookie lead a team to greatness like that? the best player on the team is always the leader.

Posted by: ryjufox3 | November 6, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

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