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Posted at 10:51 AM ET, 11/28/2010

Nick Young: 'I was in the zone'

By Gene Wang

The Washington Wizards came within a hair of staging a dramatic victory over Orlando last night thanks to Gilbert Arenas down the stretch, but the team would not have been in position to do so had it not been for Nick Young, who came off the bench to score a season-high 21 points, including 14 in the final period.

"I felt like I was in the zone and that I could hit every shot," Young said.

It was the fifth game of at least 20 points for Young, extending his NBA lead in that category among reserves. He finished 8 of 15 from the field, including 3 of 4 from three-point range, and put on a show for the 16,435 at Verizon Center beginning with nine minutes to play. That's when he began to reel off four consecutive baskets, his first giving Washington an 81-80 lead and his last making it 87-82 with 7:40 to play.

Young opened the fourth quarter with a three-point basket to draw the Wizards within two, and another three-pointer moments later gave Washington the lead, 79-77. The Wizards had a chance to win in the closing seconds after Dwight Howard rebounded Jameer Nelson's miss and put it back for a 100-99 lead, but Arenas was unable to get a running one-hander to fall as the buzzer sounded.

"I'm just going out there with confidence," Young said. "My teammates believe in me. Coach believes in me, and I believe in myself more than anything. I was just blessed, going out there tonight and playing my game."

This season, Young's role has been that of instant offense off the bench, and his contributions became all the more important last night considering the Wizards were without leading scorer John Wall, who sat out because of bruised right knee. It was the fifth game Wall missed this season, but the first with his latest ailment. He had missed four games with a sprained left foot.

Young, who had his second straight game of 20 points or more, is averaging career highs in points per game (11.8) and field goal percentage (.500). All of Young's 20-point efforts this season have come this month, and with Wall's status uncertain for tomorrow night's game in Miami, all indications are the Wizards will need continued strong production from their top bench player to be competitive during this next stretch of five of six on the road.

"You lose one like that, it's worse than getting embarrassed because it's right there," Young said. "We felt we had the game. We needed a big win like that to into Miami. We've got some tough games coming up."

By Gene Wang  | November 28, 2010; 10:51 AM ET
Categories:  Nick Young  
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The Evolution Of Nick Young


18 or more points in 6 of the last 7 games, are you kidding me? Thats awesome to do off the bench. Even in the 2 games before that he played well with 9 & 11 points respectively on great shooting percentages. If we were good, he would look like a leading 6th man canidate right now.

He just looks totally different. He seems way more poised now. He gets hyped but never has that silly expression. His expression is now one of confidence and that no one can stop him. On D he isnt a dummy anymore. He's our best perimiter defender right now. He stay's glued to his man and hardly ever goes for pump fakes anymore.

His game is still fast but he's now under control at all times. Its like the game has slowed down for him. He use to look like a one trick pony chucker who was dumb. Now he's playing both ends, never looks lost on either side, and knows where he's going at all times. He's playing guys right now.

I remember seeing JJ Reddick kill NY in the past. I remember it clear as day. He was doing it the last few times weve played but he was also doing it before he even became a solid player. Even when JJ was a scrub, he was running NY off of screens, pump faking, and just torching him. On the other end NY would do all one on one moves, lose the ball, and just look stupid. Now he's playing JJ like a kid. This is the elite version of JJ and they look like they are 3 classes apart. Its like dinner when NY has the ball now. No one is stopping him. Even elite cats and he's owning guys like Reddick.

Watch his D though. He was all on Reddick & Pietrus while also playing great D against the Hawks & other teams. Even when guys score on him, its off of tough shots now. Thats really impressive. You can also tell that he has no fear of getting pulled right now. He's coming in and he's the go to guy when he's on the floor. He use to look like a poor man's JR Smith. Now I would take him over Smith any day of the week. He's looking like one of the best 6th men in the leauge.

Now the problem is will he continue to get minutes from Flip when we get healthy or will he be outed by guys like Hinrich. NY may not look the same if he starts coming into games way late or getting minimum scattered minutes here & there. He's earned his role and deserves to keep it until he plays like crap

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 28, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Nothing has changed with this team, guys.

Flip's still the coach, so I wouldn't expect any carryover from last night's game moving forward. Miami will give the Wiz a nice thumping and Flip will tinker with the lineup a little more, while making sure to reserve 40 minutes for the 'Kissed One', Kirk Hinrich. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: ahwyatt | November 28, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Nick's in his 4th year and is 25yrs old on a rebuilding team, exactly the situation where he should be fed more and more minutes as long as he continues to produce and play in the same fashion he has been. Nick playing so well that he knocks Gil or Kirk out of the starting lineup is what the organization should hope happens. If he keeps this up, eventually the excuses about needing Hinrich on the floor will ring very hollow and Gil's inconsistent shooting will look more and more suspect.

What if Nick had that outburst in the 1st quarter and the Wiz were up by 10 instead of trailing? Different game? Could Nick have scored 35pts efficiently last night as the go-to guy? 40? Have to find out, and the only way to do that is get him the consistent PT.

I dont see Nick ever starting, Flip just won't do it. But what I do expect is that KH and Gil will get quicker hooks when they are en route to 3-12 nights.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I think Nick could def start but at the same time I don't know if i want him to. I like having energy and scoring off the bench. Lamar Odom could easily start for the Lakers but they like what he brings off the bench. Same thing the Spurs did with Manu a couple years ago. I know we're not even close to those teams but i like the strategy.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | November 28, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Saunders likely put it best: Javale isn't really a 'matchup' for Dwight Howard at all. With some notable exceptions, Howard can pretty impose his will whenever he wants. When he fails, it's usually because of his own flaws, not McGee.

Javale was a +15 last night, that's just not going to happen if Howard was straight dominating him the way you're suggesting.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank Gil for standing by NY. He saw the ability and paid $50,000 to help give him a chance. Most people crucified him, but, it was a great benefit for NY. He was on the cusp of getting cut at that moment. Concentration seems to be the issue with NY, ADD can cause many strange issues with the way a person learns and retains information. He has one of the most beautiful shots in BB, and the way he separates is a thing of art. Still a shooter can go hot or cold. As long as Flip understands that McGee can not guard 5 players at once and gives him some help on defense and when rebounding, we have a chance. Our team has the players, except maybe a strong big big man in the middle with some mediocre skills, perhaps Seraphin can grow in this role. Seraphin was banging and making an occassional play.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | November 28, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"Javale was a +15 last night, that's just not going to happen if Howard was straight dominating him the way you're suggesting.
Posted by: divi3"

You know those +/- numbers aren't a good measure of individual play, right? Maybe you don't.

I'm not suggesting Howard 'straight dominated' him last night -- just that Howard can pretty much do what he wants against the Wiz when he needs to, and Javale is unlikely to stop him. I went on to remark that when Howard fails, it's more because of his own flaws than anything McGee is able to do to him.

Fortunately Howard has plenty of flaws.

Don't be so defensive about McGee. He's been playing very well, doing things the coaches want him to do, and reaping praise for it. For a few games there it looked like we were seeing the birth of a great offensive rebounder.

let's watch and see what happens next.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 28, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

now u guys are riding nick...i guess gil knew something the coaches staff wasnt looking at...but the team fined him 50gs because they cant see talent...go ernie..is blatche getting fatter or is just me..but i guess all the clubing is paying off again good job ernie..

Posted by: MrNoOne | November 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see NY prove himself a keeper. But remember: he'll have cold nights. So don't jump all over him when he does.

This team is better than its 5-10 record. Barring unusually damaging injuries, it will have a substantially better winning percentage than .333 by year's end.

Posted by: 7snider7 | November 28, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Is NY in the last year of his contract?

Posted by: zack5 | November 28, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

You know those +/- numbers aren't a good measure of individual play, right? Maybe you don't.

+15 over the course of 26mins indicates Mcgee was fairly effective during his time on the court. The issue was he couldnt stay on the court due to Howard drawing fouls on him. I thought 1-2 of the fouls was star treatment for Howard, a problem that may never go away for Mcgee.

Don't be so defensive about McGee.

Not being defensive at all, just pointing out Javale did ok for himself.

let's watch and see what happens next.

Hopefully last night means we don't have to watch Wall/Gil/Kirk on the floor together again.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

For those of you determined to perpetuate the myth of Gilbert as the savior of Nick(the following is from Nov. 14th):

Last Thursday, after practice in Washington, Arenas told SPORTS ILLUSTRATED that the real reason he sat out wasn't, as he originally told reporters, to rest his thrice-surgically-repaired knee, nor was it the excuse he gave the next day, that he wanted to give backup point guard Nick Young the chance to play. "I was really scared of getting booed," says Arenas. "I was scared to go out there."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1177199/index.htm#ixzz16c3RxTU3

Posted by: Miks | November 28, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

For those of you determined to perpetuate the myth of Gilbert as the savior of Nick(the following is from Nov. 14th):

Last Thursday, after practice in Washington, Arenas told SPORTS ILLUSTRATED that the real reason he sat out wasn't, as he originally told reporters, to rest his thrice-surgically-repaired knee, nor was it the excuse he gave the next day, that he wanted to give backup point guard Nick Young the chance to play. "I was really scared of getting booed," says Arenas. "I was scared to go out there."

So we know Gil was lying before because we believe him now?

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"+15 over the course of 26mins indicates Mcgee was fairly effective during his time on the court. "

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 4:00 PM

No, it indicates that the team was effective during his time on the floor (and/or, conversely, that the Magic were ineffective during that time). While it's reasonable to conclude that he contributed to that effectiveness in some ways, +/-, in and of itself, tells us nothing about what he actually did or how well he did it.

A guy can spend 20 minutes on the floor, not take a shot, not grab a rebound, not force a turnover, not dish out an assist, not get to the line, all while guarding the other team's 4th or 5th option, who only takes two shots. But if his team goes on a 20-to-2 run during those 20 minutes, then he'll have a positive +/-. Was he really "effective"? Or was he just in the right place at the right time?

(And just the head of the inevitable indignant rant . . . no, I'm not suggesting that McGee didn't do anything positive during his court time. Simply illustrating how and why a +/- rating provides little to no insight as to the substance and quality of individual performances.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 28, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

+15 over the course of 26mins indicates Mcgee was fairly effective during his time on the court. The issue was he couldnt stay on the court due to Howard drawing fouls on him. I thought 1-2 of the fouls was star treatment for Howard, a problem that may never go away for Mcgee.

Posted by: divi3

It actually doesn't necessarily indicate that. He didn't play a lot in the first half when the Magic built their lead. And he was on the court in the 3rd when the Wiz came back and in the 4th when Nick went off. You can argue that maybe his presence allowed them to come back, but it's just as easy to argue that he was just on the floor when Gil and Nick finally started hitting shots.

The fact that he was only able to be on the court for 26 minutes (much less than his recent games) indicates that he might not have been as effective, as Howard was able to get him into foul trouble pretty quickly.

Aside from the fouls, which we all knew were coming, I thought JaVale played ok. But Howard definitely dominated. He's already among the toughest match ups in the league for anyone. If he continues to develop his post game, it's only going to get worse. But even though Dwight dominated, I did think this was McGee's best outing against him, and I do think he has closed the gap a bit.

To me, it looks like guys like Howard, and to a lesser extent Horford, still present the greatest challenge to McGee. He still has the height/length advantage, but those guys have the strength advantage, and enough agility and leaping ability to mitigate JaVale's advantage there. But if BDW continues working, he'll get there.

I'm very curious to see how 2010/11 McGee fares against his nemesis (at least on these boards) Brook Lopez (Dec 16th). Lopez remains more fundamentally sound, but McGee obviously far more athletic. Where the rubber meets the road for me on this one will be Lopez's ability to draw fouls. If McGee can resist picking up bad fouls against Lopez and stay on the court, he should be able to outplay him. It will be a good test. But still quite a few games to go before we get there.

Next up will be the Heat. The Wiz will really need McGee, AB and the rest of the bigs to play big inside.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

So we know Gil was lying before because we believe him now?

Posted by: divi3

I sort of don't care anymore why he lied to Flip, because who really knows, and what difference does it make? At the same time, why change his story now, and what benefit does he derive from it?

Much like his many changing stories from the gun situation, all it does it cast everything he says in doubt. As entertaining as he can be, he really is better served by not saying anything about anything whenever possible.

Even his relatively innocuous comment about being fine going back to the bench when Wall comes back has grown legs beyond what I think he actually meant.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

A guy can spend 20 minutes on the floor, not take a shot, not grab a rebound, not force a turnover, not dish out an assist, not get to the line, all while guarding the other team's 4th or 5th option, who only takes two shots. But if his team goes on a 20-to-2 run during those 20 minutes, then he'll have a positive +/-

Obviously. But that's not what happened last night. In 26mins, Mcgee went 4-6 9pts, 7rebs, 2blks, 1asst, 1stl, all while guarding DHoward. That's effective play no matter how you want to slice it, which is all I said of JM's performance last night.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

ts35,

Only got in from the last 5 minutes of the 3rd on. But, if you will double check, I wasn't really calling out Hinrich as I was the theory of help/switch defense and how it undermines man responsibility for all. Hinrich was more of an example of that than any indictment on whether his defense was the fault at all.

LarryInClintonMD.

With respect Larry, that's not how it read to me, but I'll take your word for it.

WRT the calling out help/switch defense, I don't really agree with that either, in this specific case, or in general. Especially since so much of today's NBA offense starts with a two-man game.

Using the play last night as an example, if Hinrich does as you seem to prefer, he would have maintained good one-on-one position against Nelson. He then would have gotten screened by Howard. At which point, he has two options: fight over the top or fight underneath (past a very large man). Either way, Nelson has the advantage. If KH goes over, Nelson has an angle to the hoop and McGee has to respond anyway. If KH goes under, Nelson has an open look right as he gets past Howard.

So the Wiz decided to play two-man defense on the two man game and force Nelson to do something else. Hinrich probably overplayed it too high and McGee probably underplayed it trying to not let Howard roll to the hoop. They let Nelson do the one thing you can't in that situation, which is let the ball handler split them. So, right idea, wrong execution.

But either way, I don't agree that Hinrich (or anyone) playing better 'man' defense against the P&R produces an inherently better result, because at that point he's playing one-on-two.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm very curious to see how 2010/11 McGee fares against his nemesis (at least on these boards) Brook Lopez (Dec 16th). Lopez remains more fundamentally sound, but McGee obviously far more athletic.

Lopez' numbers (18/6 44%FG 35mins) don't look like a winning formula from your C imo.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

But either way, I don't agree that Hinrich (or anyone) playing better 'man' defense against the P&R produces an inherently better result, because at that point he's playing one-on-two.

Nelson beat KH without the pick on that play. Howard had just set a pick for JJ and was coming over to set up Nelson, but Jameer made his move as soon as he caught KH looking away. By the time Howard set his pick, Jameer was already clear.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to note Gil was not in on the final defensive sequence where Howard put back Nelson's miss. Was it foul trouble or did Flip think Gil was not the best matchup defensively?
That would be an interesting question for M. Lee to ask Flip tomorrow.

I would have rather seen Gil pull up for a classic j than force a runner in the lane for the final shot. Obviously the guy makes all types of FG attempts but Nelson and Duhon can't bother his shot.

Posted by: elfreako | November 28, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Nelson beat KH without the pick on that play. Howard had just set a pick for JJ and was coming over to set up Nelson, but Jameer made his move as soon as he caught KH looking away. By the time Howard set his pick, Jameer was already clear.

Posted by: divi3

Nope. Howard was on his way over, and KH jumped out to his left to overplay the coming pick as the Wiz some times do. As I said before, you'll often see them do it with P&R at the top of the key, and you'll often see KH look back to the big and point to his right indicating where the big needs to be. KH overplayed his part, McGee underplayed his, allowing Nelson to split them.

But whatever it was, it wasn't a case of Nelson just beating Hinrich off the bounce.

If Hinrich had played it straight up, Howard would have screened him off. It's pick your poison.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Nope. Howard was on his way over, and KH jumped out to his left to overplay the coming pick as the Wiz some times do. As I said before, you'll often see them do it with P&R at the top of the key, and you'll often see KH look back to the big and point to his right indicating where the big needs to be. KH overplayed his part, McGee underplayed his, allowing Nelson to split them.

But whatever it was, it wasn't a case of Nelson just beating Hinrich off the bounce.

If Hinrich had played it straight up, Howard would have screened him off. It's pick your poison.

Watched the replay and we'll just have to disagree on this one. KH had his eyes off Jameer way too long and got beaten badly regardless of what he may have been trying accomplish.

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Lopez' numbers (18/6 44%FG 35mins) don't look like a winning formula from your C imo.

Posted by: divi3

Neither do 9/8.

If your counter-argument is going to be that those numbers don't completely reflect McGee's contributions at this point in the season, I would argue the same for Lopez. Last year, his numbers were 18.8/8.7 on 50% FG. Now he's got a new coach and a bunch of new players he's working with. We'll have to see if Lopez's numbers bounce back, but much as with McGee, it's safe to say that his to-date season stats may not indicate the whole picture.

Imo, if McGee continues to play the way he has been, he should play better overall than Lopez. My only point is that if early foul trouble remains McGee's Kryptonite (a reasonable 'if', but not a guarantee, McGee is doing much better with it of late), Lopez has a knack for drawing fouls.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

btw, checkout Nick going under Howard's pick and sticking with JJ in the corner...it seems to be clicking for him finally

Posted by: divi3 | November 28, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Watched the replay and we'll just have to disagree on this one. KH had his eyes off Jameer way too long and got beaten badly regardless of what he may have been trying accomplish.

Posted by: divi3

Do you agree that KH jumped way out to his left to prevent Nelson from using the pick? It shouldn't really be a question, because he obviously did. The question, which we won't know the answer to, is whether that was the defensive call or something KH did on this own. Since I have seen them do it before, my guess is that it was the defensive call.

Regardless, being that far to Nelson's right, he's in no position to prevent Nelson from doing anything to Nelson's left.

The problem was that McGee and Hinrich left too much space between them. If you watch, as Nelson starts left, McGee takes a half-step too far out, and Nelson crosses over between them. Hinrich is partly late recovering and partly blocked by Howard.

But whatever it is, it's not strictly a case of Hinrich getting beaten off the bounce.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Btw, not saying Kirk played great D on that play, just saying that it's not as clear cut as 'Nelson abused Hinrich'. It was two-man D against two-man O and the O executed it better.

Posted by: ts35 | November 28, 2010 7:41 PM | Report abuse

ts35,

Nelson got into the lane so easily and he did not have to spend anytime doing it. Nelson could not have drawn up a play any better than the way he penetrated to paint.

What Hinrich should have did was guard Nelson as his life depended on it and if Howard had actually set a P on him, he should have been crashing through it and I guarantee Howard would have gotten whistled for an illegal pick.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I would have rather seen Gil pull up for a classic j than force a runner in the lane for the final shot. Obviously the guy makes all types of FG attempts but Nelson and Duhon can't bother his shot. Posted by: elfreako

I'm surprised that more hasn't been said about this and AB getting beat by Q (twice?) for rebounds off of missed FTs. People sure do like talking about Kirk. You all know he wasn't the one on Growing Pains, right?

The Wizards with the last shot and a chance to win is the most one could of hoped for, but I didn't really care for Gil's shot. I believe he was being guarded by Pietrus, so getting a contact call was very unlikely, and he's not a great finisher. At this point in his career he's better at shooting a jumpshot or finding the open man. 82games.com has a feature called Game Winning Shots. Turns out Gil was never that clutch, so this is an area where Wall should be an upgrade.

It seems to me like AB got beat by Q twice, but I can't recall the second time. I've noticed all season that he will make Javale line up with the bigger guy during FTs, and he did it again last night. This looks like AB being lazy to me.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 28, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

I was reading back through the last thread and I must have woke up SDMDTSU. Had seen him post in awhile.

He called me a drunk uncle at the family reunion. LOL. His reunions must be wild.

He bought up the tri-captainship title from last year, that became a duel, then a single, then none.

SDMDTSU, would you care to splain upon how Arenas was the captain last year?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I did not like Gills last shot either. But, I think offensively they kind of dropped the ball in not coming immediately back to Young after he missed two shots in a row down the stretch.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

So I caught some of the Clippers-Utah game (109-98 Jazz) and Blake Griffin had 35 points and 14 boards to go with 7 assists. An amazing performance on a team that's won what, 3 games?

Posted by: Samson151 | November 28, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Yup. Wall is going to have to go some to get ROY away from him.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

gilbert arenas was responsible for the orlando loss. nick young hit 14 points in the 4th quarter, and did not touch the ball after arenas came in with 7 or 8 minutes left in the game. young was shooting 8 of 14, and had shot the wizards into the lead--orlando had no answer for young, --who do you think stopped him? Arenas! By not getting nick the ball. arenas took 23 shots--the whole team only took 80. 30% of the shots. Worse, he only had 5 assists. 5 assists for the point guard? and no steals. mcgee was completely out of the game--only 6 shots, and that was not all dwight howard--arenas was not getting megee the ball. or to blatch. the last 5 seconds of the second and fourth quarter were a disgrace--wizards holding for the last shot, arenas dribble dribble dribble looking for HIS shot--not looking for young, or andre, but His shot, and failing both times--hey, easy to defense that, you know he is going to dribble fake and take his shot. arenas takes the wizards out of team ball. they stand around, because mostly he is going to dribble until he gets his shot. 31 points is not impressive when 1`) 14 are on free throws, and 2) he takes the ball out of his team mates hands, especially the guy who is shooting 55%.

Posted by: Frederic20009 | November 28, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Young did not seem to get the ball down the stretch and as I was watching I kept hoping he would finally get it kicked to him, but it didn't happen.

Arenas may share some blame for that, but I not would blame it all on Arenas Frederic2009. Other players could have kicked the ball to Young as well.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that more hasn't been said about this and AB getting beat by Q (twice?) for rebounds off of missed FTs. People sure do like talking about Kirk. You all know he wasn't the one on Growing Pains, right?

Posted by: djnnnou | November 28, 2010 9:16 PM

On the Magics last possession where Howard tipped in Nelson's missed shot Quentin Richardson had position on Blatche and kept him off the boards. Blatche is a big liability on defense and should have been taken out of the game when Arenas was pulled out. A power forward is suppose to manned the boards when the center goes to contest shots but as we have been seeing all season Blatche is nowhere to be found. He got out hustled by the 6-6 Quentin Richardson.

Posted by: spades72 | November 29, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

ts35,

Nelson got into the lane so easily and he did not have to spend anytime doing it. Nelson could not have drawn up a play any better than the way he penetrated to paint.

What Hinrich should have did was guard Nelson as his life depended on it and if Howard had actually set a P on him, he should have been crashing through it and I guarantee Howard would have gotten whistled for an illegal pick.

And you'd be more than likely be wrong. If Howard sets a pick and doesn't move and Hinrich goes 'crashing' into him trying to go through it, it's either a no-call or a foul on Hinrich. Even if Howard is moving, it's 50-50 at best that Howard gets called on it. Are we taking bets on the likelihood of the Wizards getting that call?

If a foul is called on Hinrich at that point, I believe they were over the limit, so Howard is shooting. Ultimately that might not have been a bad thing given Howard's FT%, but it's certainly not conventional strategy.

No question Nelson got to his spot too easily, but Nelson being able to get into the lane has less to do with the strategy and more to do with the execution. You can pick any strategy you like, but at some point defending the P&R requires more than just one guy digging in on man-to-man.


Posted by: ts35 | November 29, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that more hasn't been said about this and AB getting beat by Q (twice?) for rebounds off of missed FTs. People sure do like talking about Kirk. You all know he wasn't the one on Growing Pains, right?

Posted by: djnnnou

Even though Howard had 32, I thought Q was the difference maker for them last night. Aside from the FT rebounds he was hustling and making plays all night. But yes, it was pretty bad that AB got out-hustled on the FT boards. McGee actually almost did too, as Q put a great move on him to get position, but the FT went in.

On the Magics last possession where Howard tipped in Nelson's missed shot Quentin Richardson had position on Blatche and kept him off the boards.
Posted by: spades72

As I've said before, I think AB was damned either way on this one. As Jameer was getting the ball out top, Rashard was setting a baseline screen for Q. Q starts out to the 3 pt line, then doubles back, setting a screen for Rashard, who then fades to the 3 pt line. If AB doesn't go out there and stays closer to the lane, he leaves Rashard with a wide open look, which we know he can hit, and maybe risks an illegal D call (I'm a little hazy on the rules there). If he does goes out there, there's no big help near the lane. As AB gets over the top of the screen to get back to Rashard (which he's theoretically supposed to), Jameer makes his move. Because AB is trying to get out to guard Rashard, Q already is between him and the basket. AB was a touch slow in reacting, but Q didn't keep AB off the glass, he was busy shoving Gee underneath the hoop.

Young did not seem to get the ball down the stretch and as I was watching I kept hoping he would finally get it kicked to him, but it didn't happen.
LarryInClintonMD.

Imo, Young not getting the ball down the stretch was less about Gil or any other Wizard as it was about Orlando getting serious about denying him the ball.

The last play for the Wiz was a classic example. The Wiz had AB and Nick stacked on the right side of the lane, AB high, Nick low. The design was to have AB drop down and set a pick for Nick, allowing him to pop out to the perimeter. At the start of the play, Lewis is basically hugging AB, and Duhon hugging Young. As AB goes to set the pick, Lewis basically hugs his way around AB and Young (who is more or less still being held by Duhon), preventing Young from moving until it was too late. It was bit of bad pick by AB, but also just great off-the-ball D from a championship caliber team.

Posted by: ts35 | November 29, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Young said. "My teammates believe in me. Coach believes in me

NY...too bad once Wall comes back Flip is going to play Gil, Wall and Kirk which means you'll be back on the bench watching Kirk shot 2-8 while his man does what ever he wants?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 29, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

djnnnou:

I don't understand your "Gil is not clutch" argument. some of those stats from the site you linked are going to be skewed (particularly fg%) because he hasn't exactly had his best years recently, but I would still take Gil over several of the players ranked higher than him off of that list: ricky davis, steve francis, antawn jamison, ben gordon, and jamal crawford (good as he is, very streaky his entire career). the rest of the guys on that list are true, bona fide stars. that's a really great group to be included with if you're Gil. On the "playoff game-winners" list, Gil is also tied for #4 behind kobe, lebron, dirk and dwade. how is he not clutch? ask anyone who's watched the wiz since '05, what the phrase "dagger" means and who it usually pertains to. they're not all going to fall and he's coming back from multiple injuries, but i still trust him to take the last one. Go Wiz

Posted by: LoveTheWiz | November 29, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

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