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Open thread: Wizards (2-4) vs. Bobcats (2-6)

By Michael Lee

The Wizards have been bringing along slowly Gilbert Arenas since he returned to action in New York last week. Since scoring 18 points in 26 minutes in his debut, Arenas has seen his scoring and minutes decline. He scored just five points -- and missed six of his seven field goal attempts -- in 23 minutes in the Wizards' 98-91 win over Houston. When asked if Arenas would see his minutes increased anytime soon, Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said, "Probably not." Saunders then provided a lengthy explanation. "I think the thing with Gil, and I've talked to him. He's got to get right," he said. "You are talking about a guy who over the last four and a half years has sat out three and a half with injuries. Right now we're a month into our season basically and through the preseason he's had a bad ankle, a bad knee and a bad groin. Outside of that he's been okay. Based on that he needs to get his body right or else if we start playing him to many minutes, he's going to get hurt again. All of sudden we've got to put him on the shelf, and that's not what we want to do so right now it's going to be where he's taking baby steps. Hopefully what we'll do with the minutes is anywhere between 24 and 30 in that range. He'll continue to get stronger. His endurance will get better. He'll get his legs under him, and then he just starts doing that, he'll be able to start playing more. I deal with guys that are coming back from injuries the same way I deal with young guys. You give them as much responsibility as they can accept and keep on improving, and then you give them more. A guy like him, you give him minutes, and as he starts showing he can handle them, his body, then you give him more." Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter with writers Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee) and Gene Wang (@gene_wang). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 7 p.m.; TV: CSN; Radio: 106.7 FM.


By Michael Lee  | November 12, 2010; 6:37 PM ET
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Comments

How can you be in the best shape that Mr. Leonsis has seen Gilbert in this summer and miss two weeks and then Gilbert can't get playing time because his body will not hold up?

Is this a medical conclusion that Flip has been given or is that just his opinion?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

McGee just now breaks a sweat and Yi comes in to sub for him. This is crazy.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

That clown Consore trashes McGhee all the time.

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

This team could be so much better if we had better in game coaching. This traditional coaching styles sucks to high heaven.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Question.

Does McGee get credit for a blocked shot on a foul that clearly would have been an and-1. Mind you McGee isn't the fouler.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Getting killed on the glass.

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Bring Yi or Young in for Thornton and Arenas in for Hinrich and lets get this thing arollin'. Geez.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Yi in for McGee again very quickly. Boy, I don't think McGee's asthma problem is that bad.

Also, does Flip and all the defense guru's realize that when McGee goes out of the game that our defense proficiency drops measurably.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Larry, I hate to mention it (and certainly they have a ways to go) but the 3-guard lineup is getting them back in this game......

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

But he plays the 3 guard too long. They gave back the dame vs Cleveland.

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding is skewed because wizards shot 14 more times in the first half. Stat is skewed.

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

bring AT back in for the 4th, or keep going with the 3-guard look?

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

A lineup feat. Gil, KH and Nick....this should be interesting....

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Interior defense comes back with McGee in the game. Man it would be great if Yi and McGee and Blatche could get SOME run together.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Blache McGhee and Yi too

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Did we not just see our interior defense just pick up with McGee in the game and now he is back on the bench? WTF?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Not a good lineup now down by 5

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

What I saw was energy when McGee came back into the game and not so much the energy being from the 3-guard. Remember, it all starts inside, not outside.

I like Yi, but he would be so much more effective if they play him with McGee, Blatche, and Wall and Arenas.

We need to stop the bull and and put the best players playing when crunchtime and moneytime counts.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

This one is on Saunders.

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

The 3-guard lineup isn't going to win anything or take us anywhere. Doesn't matter whether it appears to look good at times.

The level of play that we need to win games won't ever come from the 3-guard, but it will come from a run and gun traditional lineup, with Wall and Arenas running it and Arenas need to start and we need to stop taking McGee out of the game for Yi AS SOON AS MCGEE BREAKS A SWEAT.

THIS COACHES RIVALS THAT OF ED TAPPSCOTT.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

THIS COACHING RIVALS THAT OF ED TAPPSCOTT.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

McGhee - 21 mins
Young - 12 mins
Thornton - 21 mins

Criminal negligence.

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse


Wizards frontcourt got dominated tonight. Charlotte's starting bigs shot 20-30 from the field, 67% and almost doubled our bigs in rebounds. Awful performance.

This was probably the worst shooting night I've ever seen Arenas have. He helped in other areas, but the Wizards simply will not win with him having such a bad night.

Posted by: Firuz1 | November 12, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Eddie Jordan

Posted by: bobilly1 | November 12, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody please tell me why McGee's minutes are starting to DECREASE with every game they are playing.....???? The dude is in there hustling and snatching rebounds.

His interior defense has also gotten alot better. Flip seems like he is starting to kill the dude's energy by keep yanking him.

Nothing against Yi, but he is a 4 and not 5. What is McGee doing, or better yet not doing that Flip keeps him out of closing games in favor of Yi or Armstrong...???

I thought Flip just keep Yi in the final minutes of the Houston game because of the celebration they were having for Yi and Yao. Looks like I was wrong......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 12, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Even though Yi had an impressive 6 blocks, McGee should have been in there more.

Thornton didn't get back in because apparently there was something wrong with him, he was back in the locker room.

So, again, issues with Flip's rotation, but you can't lay it all on Flip. Flip didn't get outmuscled and outhustled on the glass. Flip didn't miss open jumpers.

Early in the 4th, they took a few too many jumpers. They should have worked it inside a bit more. Late in the 4th, if Gil and Wall hit some of those jumpers, they're in it to the end. Some times the shots just don't fall.

Still a lot of work to do on the defensive end. Too many missed rotations and too much giving up the baseline. I thought their effort was solid though.

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

They gave back the dame vs Cleveland.Posted by: bobilly1"

Which dame? I missed her.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 12, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse


On a night when we badly need scoring, Flip plays a cold Arenas to death and cools off a hot Nick Young. Nick Young was ready to play tonight but only got 12 minutes.

Posted by: bobabuie | November 12, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

WIZARDS RIPOFF!!!

Anybody hear the music from the latest Wizards commercials. Well, it's a rip off from the best commercial using this song made by Nike. Enjoy it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlXRengzZoc

extended version here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pckz7q02xxY&feature=related

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 12, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse


Just looked at the box score, Thornton and Arenas were a combined 3-22. Tomorrow in Chicago could be ugly.

Posted by: bobabuie | November 12, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Disappointing that Flip wont roll with Nick even when his shot appears to be falling. IMHO, it seemed pretty clear we needed offense...why not let Nick do his thing? Tonight it appeared everyone was looking to set up everybody else, not a bad thing per se, but somebody has to pull the trigger and you know Nick will never hesitate. Personally I thought he earned more PT.

Also, I am all for Flip benhcing Mcgee when he doesnt show proper effort like at one point in the 1st....but there comes a time you put him back in and let him play.

Winnable game lost, several players and the coach need to look in mirror

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes the numbers DO tell the story. The Wiz were in trouble when they had something like one FT attempt midway through the second quarter. They finished 8 of 10, which sounds fine until you realize Charlotte hit 18 of 24.

Somebody mentioned rebounding: the Cats had 15 more on the defensive boards alone. Washington won the TO battle by 10, helped greatly by those 13 steals. But this game wasn't about the backcourt.

That Kirk Hinrich: you'd think for $9 mil the guy would at least be willing to play center.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 12, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Disappointing that Flip wont roll with Nick even when his shot appears to be falling. IMHO, it seemed pretty clear we needed offense...why not let Nick do his thing? Tonight it appeared everyone was looking to set up everybody else, not a bad thing per se, but somebody has to pull the trigger and you know Nick will never hesitate. Personally I thought he earned more PT.

Whose minutes should he have gotten?

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

TS35, I really don't get you sometimes. This game was all on Flip. In the first Q when McGee got going, Flip sends him to the bench.

Yi brings some interior defense, but his effectiveness is minimized because the other team doesn't respect his inside play. He gets blocks because he is a 7-footer. On the other hand McGee changes the way teams approach the basket and they respect his inside play. Yi has the opportunity to get more blocks because the other team has no fear of driving the basket when he plays center.

However, bring him in as the third big and the whole dynamics change.

When the team isn't being coached properly it throws everything off. Only superior play is going to overcome mediocre coaching. You aren't going to get superior play every night. Flip has to let these players play.

Arenas needs to start. McGee needs major minutes. Hinrich should only be getting about 13-18 mpg. Hinrich played 38 minutes tonight. Trust me TS35, Hinrich isn't going to take this team anywhere.

The prevailing philosophy that continues to give Hinrich major mpg and Yi major mpg at the expense of McGee is a losing one.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Whose minutes should he have gotten?

Gil, KH, Wall combined for 2 FGs in 4th quarter, so take your pick

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

But this game wasn't about the backcourt.

Of course it was about the backcourt (and frontcourt).

Anytime you get 5pts from your back-court in the 4th quarter, something is wrong

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse


Gil, KH, Wall combined for 2 FGs in 4th quarter, so take your pick

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:04 PM

There you go with facts again!

Posted by: bobabuie | November 12, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

re: rebounding...at one point we were being outrebounded 24-7 but had a 5pt(or something) lead. It's not so much a cut-n-dry stat as it would appear

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

and this was yet another game where AB was flat out dominant in the 1stQ and then faded until later in the 4th. Whether that is conditioning or offensive sets or a combo of both- it's gotta improve.

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Whose minutes should he have gotten?

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:00 PM

Are you serious? Hinrich played 38 minutes. Let's make this simple. KISS as we say in the military. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Start Wall and Arenas. Hinrich subs for Wall and Young subs for Arenas.

Lets try running with that for a bit.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Larry, what's up with Jack and his wife?

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 12, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody please tell me why McGee's minutes are starting to DECREASE with every game they are playing

About 7mins into the game Javale was LAZY and didnt run back on D, Flip immediately subbed him for Yi. And being that it's Javale, that mistake meant he was in doghouse rest of the game.

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Who would have thunk that Yi would get more blocks than JaTravel?

Thornton left early b/c he was sick....AB ran out of gas at the end b/c he was getting the crap beat out of him although he's hot from the FT line....Gilby couldn't hit the side of a barn, but had a few good hustle moments....JWow's trying to do too much and needs to let the game come to him....Kirk was essentially the floor general out there, trying to keep the team in the game....NY was hot, but didn't get enough PT.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 12, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Andray Blatche had 22 pts and 9 rebs. Starting slow isn't something he needs to be criticized for.

Not starting Gilbert Arenas is something to criticize.

Gilbert Arenas isn't going to get in the swing of things until he starts. The coach and those of you that think you can just keep bringing Gill of the bench and majically one game everything is gonna be honkey dory have a few wires burnt.

You must start Gilbert and let him get warmed to the flow the game and stop bringing in Yi for McGee the moment he breaks a sweat.

Playing Hinrich over 30 something minutes a game gives this team no value. Anybody playing that many mpg should be a major player in winning the game. The last I checked we got two wins.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Larry, inferior coaching. Flip should have coached AT not to go 1-8 and your boy Gil 2-14 / 1-9. If you'd read, you would have seen that I said Flip should have played McGee more. Do I need to DC-MAN88 bold face that for you?

"Arenas needs to start", sure that would have made the difference tonight. He might have gone 3-16 instead. Meanwhile, one of the guys you're picking on went 5-7 / 2-3, 14pts with 8 assists and 0 turnovers. Maybe the truth is that Gil needed to play LESS. But that can't be, right? Larry, he's 3-21 from the field in the last two games. 3-21, and you're saying he needs to start. But I wasn't really going to bag on Gil because I thought he gave good effort in other areas tonight.

So, again if you read, I said Flip gets his share of this one, as does everyone. But I'm sorry, Flip can't 'coach' them to hit wide open shots. And the truth of it is that the 3-guard lineup got them back in the game tonight. They were down by 10 I believe when Arenas was inserted. That lineup got them back in the game. They ran that lineup and threw the zone out there and for once it actually worked. In the 4th, do I think Flip should have brought McGee back? Yeah I do. Do I have any idea why he wasn't? Nope. Maybe play McGee with Yi since Dray was having problems after Nazr landed on him. Maybe he should have lifted Gil for Young when it was clear Gil was having a tough shooting night. Everyone is all about how Flip should stick with the hot hand, until it's Hinrich, and then he has no business being in there. Maybe Flip should have lifted Gil to put your Too Tall lineup in there. But that can't be right, right?

While you were watching the game, you may have noticed that, especially in the fourth, the Cats were using a lot of great back and forth, side to side ball movement to get open looks. The problem with your Too Tall lineup is that while McGee and Yi are mobile for big men, they are not mobile enough to consistently chase the ball like that. When they try (as Yi did), they leave gaps that the offense exploits (which the Cats did). I know you don't believe me, so we'll have to hope Flip goes to it at some point to prove one of us wrong.

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

It's easy to see from the stats why they lost. Too many J's, not enough tough shots inside resulting in 17 more shots, but 14 fewer attempts at the line. Also, outrebounded by 18 boards although 10 fewer TO's.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=301112027

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 12, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse


If Thornton and Arenas had had even slightly sub-par games, the Wizards win tonight. Flip's problem is he can't get consistent scoring from main offensive threats, especially down the stretch.

On a positive note, in his last two games Wall has a 12:1 assist-to-turnover ratio. Just imagine what this kid could do with some good players around him!

Posted by: gimmedat | November 12, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Nick Young is not a part of Flip Out program. And Nick is going to another team in matter of day's I read that his agent is very unhappy about Nick playing time. And their are at least 8 other team that want Young.

Posted by: maejude | November 12, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Whose minutes should he have gotten?

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:00 PM

Are you serious? Hinrich played 38 minutes. Let's make this simple. KISS as we say in the military. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Start Wall and Arenas. Hinrich subs for Wall and Young subs for Arenas.

Lets try running with that for a bit.

LarryInClintonMD.

Yes, let's keep it simple.

38mins 14pts 5-7FGs, 2-3 3s, 1rb, 8asts, 1stl, 0 turnovers.
32mins 5pts, 2-14FGs, 1-9 3s, 6rbs, 4asts, 2sts, 1blk, 4 turnovers.

If those stat lines were reversed, you'd be calling for Hinrich to be cut...before the game was even over. KH earned his money tonight. Don't break your back getting it so twisted to make whatever point you're trying to make. If Gil wants to start, perhaps Gil should not gain 10-15lbs in two to three weeks.

I thought Gil gave good effort tonight, working for rbs and playing solid D. Hinrich played well tonight. He too was solid on D, and there is no place in the universe where 14pts and 8 assists with 0 turnovers and 5-7 shooting is not a good night.

Keep it real.

I had no problem with Hinrich getting lifted in the Houston game, because he was playing like crap. I also agreed that I didn't understand why he came in for Gil with a minute and change left. That being said, Gil didn't have the stroke tonight. Excuse it however you like with silliness about not starting / flow / getting warm. He played 32 minutes. More than enough for all of the above. He just didn't have it. Nothing wrong with it, it happens, but let's get off the train of somehow if he had started it would fix everything.

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

And their are at least 8 other team that want Young.

Posted by: maejude

Awesome! Any of them in the NBA?

(relax, it's a joke).

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Hinrich played a solid game tonight. He doesn't scare anybody's defense, but he definitely played well enough to help the team.

Posted by: gimmedat | November 12, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

re: rebounding...at one point we were being outrebounded 24-7 but had a 5pt(or something) lead. It's not so much a cut-n-dry stat as it would appear

Posted by: divi3

Going to go out on a limb and say that if you get out-rebounded 48-30, you lose far more than you win. Especially if the opponent's # of offensive boards (16) pretty much equals your defensive boards (17). It's a limb, but it's a limb I feel pretty safe on. The Wiz managed to compensate with turnovers / blocks / steals but it's a hard, hard way to go.

Posted by: ts35 | November 12, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Well daggummit TS35, goodness gracious, I seriously don't know where to start.

You do realize that you are stating the results and I am talking about the philosophy and the decision making that produces the results.

That being the case we aren't going to see eye to eye on this one.

This reminds me of when I first learned how to drive. Could I drive, yes I could, but when my Father set next to me to give me a test run to see if he approved, he found fault before I could put the car in drive. Needless to say, I was so discombobulated with him in the passenger seat, I couldn't do anything right.

However, I knew I could drive so I promptly called one of my aunts and got my drivers license the next day. Never even bothered with my father and when I told him I had my license he just laughed.

Flip is like my Father in a sense, in that, make a mistake, or don't do it quite right, you will not get the chance or the encouragement to get it right.

That comes from huge pride and when it comes to my Father you better be right from the get go when dealing with him.

Unfortunately, that prideful attitude about things makes terrible coaches.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 12, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is all about how Flip should stick with the hot hand, until it's Hinrich, and then he has no business being in there.

Well, if you're the hot hand you need to take more than 1 FGA in the 4th quarter. Hinrich cant play 35-40 mins every night but only take 5 or so shots. Especially when so much of that PT is at SG, it just doesnt work.

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Hinrich played a solid game tonight. He doesn't scare anybody's defense, but he definitely played well enough to help the team.

The problem with KH is not KH. It's that Flip insists on running him 35-40mins every night. He took 7 shots in 38mins tonight (1 in 4th), that is patently absurd for a SG. He's a guy who can be a valuable cog on any team, but Flip uses him as if he's a primary or secondary threat. It really doesnt work, and we've seen the evidence all season.

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse


Flip uses [KH] as if he's a primary or secondary threat. It really doesnt work, and we've seen the evidence all season.

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 11:31 PM

Agreed. That said, if Arenas or Thornton had showed up offensively or if Flip plays Young more, the Wiz get a 'W', imho. I've been critical of Young in the past, but he actually looks like he's ready to contribute on more than an occasional basis, offensively and defensively, and I'd like to see Flip stop handcuffing the team by playing KH so many minutes.

Posted by: gimmedat | November 12, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't even matter who plays. Its clear the coaching has been hard to watch. The play of the players has been hard to watch. Although it's hard to say,This team is just young and not as good as most of the teams in this league. Damn, being a DC sports fan has sucked for the majority of my life. Sometimes i hate pulling for these guys so hard...

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | November 13, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

"The problem with KH is not KH. It's that Flip insists on running him 35-40mins every night. He took 7 shots in 38mins tonight (1 in 4th), that is patently absurd for a SG. He's a guy who can be a valuable cog on any team, but Flip uses him as if he's a primary or secondary threat. It really doesnt work, and we've seen the evidence all season.
Posted by: divi3"

Hmmm... let's check the numbers.

The Wiz took 86 shots tonight. That's 17 more than Charlotte took. Here's how they break down in the backcourt:

Wall: 16 shots, or 18.6%
Arenas: 14, or 16.7%
Nick and Kirk: 7 each (8.2%)
Total: 51.2% of shots taken

The Wiz connected on 38 of those FGs, or 2 more than Charlotte. The breakdown:

Wall: 6 FGs, or 15.8%
Arenas: 2 FGs for 5.3%
Nick: 4, or 10.5%
Hinrich: 5 FGs, for 13.2%

I think you'd have to be delusional to assert that Hinrich's shooting was the reason that Washington lost tonight.

On the other hand, Gilbert's shooting -- that 2 of 14, including 1 of 9 from the arc, and no FT attempts in 32 minutes --- is something we probably should be discussing.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 13, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Gilbert's struggling, guys, and so is the frontcourt, with a few notable exceptions.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 13, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

It's funny the observations some of you come up with after watching a game. McGee is pathetic and should probably not be starting period. Statements like our interior defense being better with him in the game are flat out ignorant. I was at the game 3 rows from the action and he is terrible. I told him to get his head in the game more than once and he heard me, but obviously meant nothing. Arenas, ironically, played one of the better games I've ever seen him play in all things other than shooting. Where was that defense and rebounding during the Hibatchi days??? Which only proves my long running theory, that a large portion of NBA players could be much better defenders than they are, but they just don't give the effort. For this night, Arenas certainly did.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 13, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Tonight Kevin Love had more rebounds(31) than the Wizards(30). How crazy is that? McGee and Yi have to do a better job. The whole team needs to do a better job, but it's mostly on the bigs. Other than rebounding, Yi is looking great at C. He plays really good positional D. With some more muscle he becomes an Okur clone.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 13, 2010 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Blatche was "flat out dominant"? Jesus, someone really needs their meds refilled.

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 13, 2010 2:42 AM | Report abuse

"The problem with KH is not KH. It's that Flip insists on running him 35-40mins every night. He took 7 shots in 38mins tonight (1 in 4th), that is patently absurd for a SG."

Posted by: divi3 | November 12, 2010 11:31 PM

(A) That's nonsense. Different players at the same position have different roles on different teams. Not every SG is in the game to jack up 20 shots. Aaron Afflalo played 34 minutes against the Lakers and took 7 shots. Thabo Sefalosha played 34 minutes against Portland and took 1 shot. No one's complaining about them nor should they be. Their playing well within their defined roles, which is what Hinrich did last night. Hinrich isn't Kobe Bryant or Joe Johnson, so complaining that he doesn't let it fly with wild abandon is silly.

(B) He wasn't playing SG for that entire 38 minutes. He also played PG for a good part of that time and dished out 8 assists against 0 turnovers.

You think the team needed more offense? Then how about the bigs grabbing some offensive rebounds (the Wiz only shot 42% from the floor) and converting some putbacks and/or getting to the line (as a team they only shot 10 FTs)?

Posted by: kalo_rama | November 13, 2010 3:02 AM | Report abuse

If I remember correctly, one of the big questions coming into the season was Gil's adjustment playing next to Wall, who would have the ball in his hands most of the time. Gil was supposed to take advantage of the shot opportunities, particularly the 3 pointers. He seems to be having a problem converting those. It's way early yet, but that's probably worth noting for future reference.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 13, 2010 7:08 AM | Report abuse

"I was at the game 3 rows from the action and he is terrible. I told him to get his head in the game more than once and he heard me, but obviously meant nothing." hahahahahaha slightly srelf-important huh?

Posted by: bford1kb | November 13, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

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