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Open thread: Wizards (2-5) at Bulls (4-3)

By Michael Lee

John Wall's first regular season game against Derrick Rose is justifiably the most intriguing storyline as the Wizards face the Chicago Bulls. But another angle that may play a huge role in the outcome is the Wizards' rebounding against the Bulls. Led by the energetic Joakim Noah, the Bulls rank fourth in the league in rebounds (45.1), while the Wizards rank last in the league (36.7) and are coming off a game when they got fewer rebounds than one individual.

"It's a little bit discouraging," Coach Flip Saunders said about Minnesota forward Kevin Love grabbing 31 rebounds against New York on the same night his team had 30 against Charlotte. "It's not like he's the greatest athlete in the world, but he's got a great nose for the ball. Some of those were probably his own offensive rebounds, he had a little Moses Malone thing going. It just shows you, if you make a conscious effort, rebounding is hard work. You've got to be willing to pay the price and get dirty."

Love's astounding night helped him pass Noah (13.9) for the league lead in rebounding. JaVale McGee said he watched film of Love on Saturday morning.

"I was looking at all the rebounds. It was impressive. Real impressive," McGee said. "Me, I'm more of a helpside defender, so I'm out of position a lot. I feel like if I get a lot of rebounds, I'm not going to get a lot of blocks. I feel like I'm going to have to sacrifice blocks for rebounds if I want to get some rebounds. And I feel I have to stand my position and not try to help as much."

Saunders said it is important for the Wizards to get rebounds since it helps John Wall be more effective. "Our strength is our ability in the open floor. That's what makes Rose so good. Noah's ability to rebound so well and Derrick to get out and rebound and push and make plays for himself and make plays for other people. That's where John's at his best."

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Tipoff: 7 p.m.; TV: CSN+; Radio: 106.7 FM.


By Michael Lee  | November 13, 2010; 7:55 PM ET
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Comments

Well Al is a go so there goes my plan. Dont get it twisted, I wanted Al to play but I wanted Gil to start. However, Ill give Kirk his homecoming. We dont play again until Tuesday and Gil better be starting in that game or this will be a joke. Right now its fine but by then it wont be. I also hope Al isnt playing tonight even though he's hurt or really sick just because he's scared that Gil & Kirk may start and then he wont be a starter anymore.

Looking forward to seeing Wall vs Rose. Rose killed him in the Preseason and Wall has some trouble against the top D's but he never really shoots poorly 2 games in a row so I think he could rise to the challange tonight against Rose

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 13, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

"Looking forward to seeing Wall vs Rose. Rose killed him in the Preseason and Wall has some trouble against the top D's but he never really shoots poorly 2 games in a row so I think he could rise to the challange tonight against Rose.Posted by: dlts2041"

I didn't think Rose killed Wall. I think he outplayed him, but you're talking about the starting PG on the title-winning US squad against a 20 year old. The whole idea that these two could be evenly matched at this point is extraordinary.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 13, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

If Wall & Gil could make some layups then we could be ok. I think Gil at the rim is more mental than physical. He's definitely lost a step but he can still get up some. He's just not trying hard. He's hesitant. We hear all the Offseason stories about him dunking. You also heard him before the start of last season talking about how all he's going to do this year is drive. He said that because he had did it all Offseason with All Stars and no one could stop him. Then in the 1st game against the Mavs he made a million high flying layups. He did that for like the first 3 games.

Then after that his game struggled, he lost confidence, and mentally he didnt go as hard to the rim or jump as high when he got there. Thats why in the offseason I said Wall would be the best thing for Gil because Gil would see Wall driving hard like crazy and it would expire him to do the same. Thats why I want us to start Gil because I think it could make him start going harder to the rack, jumping higher, and getting that confidence back. Its more of a mental thing and once he has succes with it then he will be great at it.

PS- our bigs suck at finishing passes from our guards. the only one you can count on is Javalle. Everyone else is 50/50 at best. They go up soft and either miss it, get stripped, or get blocked. These are bunnies that change games. Then the other team always runs off it and gets an easy layup or a wide open 3

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 13, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Keeping track of the ebb and flow of the Wizards gameplay and how it turns has much to do with player rotations affecting good play as well as bad.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse


Wizards offense is pitiful. Only four FTs attempted by our starters, with three of those coming from McGee. Meanwhile, the Bulls' starters are taking it to the Wiz with 13 attempts. The Wizards will not win many games if they don't learn how to force the action inside.

Posted by: artiesliver | November 13, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I think it is clearly obvious so far that we don't have a scoring option on the floor. Hinrich's savy doesn't add up. We have got to start playing Gilbert more.

This is phoney baloney with Hinrich. You folks that think that he is somehow adding a valid role for his mpg really need to think again.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, Flip starts Hinrich in the second half despite the fact that he has ZERO points while playing 20 minutes. Ridiculous.

Posted by: artiesliver | November 13, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

If somebody had told me that the Wizards would spend great energy playing two forwards and three guards for a great part of the early season, I would have asked why and what for.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

This team is a hot mess.

It's a wonder Wall has any assists tonight with his starting shooting guard attempting one field goal.

What the hell is Flip trying to prove by giving Hinrich all these minutes and playing a 3-guard offense against a tough, rebounding team like Chicago? I swear the man is trying to get fired.

Posted by: 2020doc | November 13, 2010 9:52 PM | Report abuse

A team not used to playing traditional positions and traditional roles. Flip has been with this hodge podge lineup too long and it's when the players look in the mirror they don't know who they are looking at.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Rebounding is all about POSITION AND DESIRE you've got have the desire and the tenacity and you also have to establish position, Wes Unseld was one of the greatest rebounders in the history of the NBA and he was only 6/5 although he was listed at 6/7 but that was pure PR Wes wanted the ball and he often got the ball, Flip need's to ask Wes to come in and maybe tutor the front line especially Javale McGee who is absolutely terrible and has atrocious timing when it comes to blocking shot's yeah, yeah, i know he can block shots but no one in the league fears him because i see too many players from opposing teams attack the rim, this coaching staff is terrible from Flip right on down the line, Grunfeld has ruined this franchise.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 13, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

And the funny thing about it, is this, for all the Hinrich supporters. The way Flip is using Hinrich makes Hinrich ineffective.

I swear if I was Hinrich, I would be mixed up in the head. Am I a shooting guard, a point guard, or a small forward? I swear, running up and down the court for damn near 40 mpg would have anybody wondering what position or role they should really be performing.

You know the old saying 'jack of all trades master of none', that's Kirk Hinrich on this Team.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Les BouleS need not just to be done with Grunfeld, but also done with "player's coaches." It's clear that unless your "player's coach" comes with a championship ring to back up his methodology/approach to coaching, then he's just slightly better than a bum off the street.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 13, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

@dargregmag,

You know I am a huge McGee supporter. But I agree with you that he does not know how to rebound. Using Unseld as an example of someone knowing how and wanting to rebound is excellent.

Dennis Rodman would teach McGee a few lessons if the money is right.

But you are correct. There isn't any reason why McGee should not be easily a double digit rebounder. He doesn't know how. Somebody needs to teach him and if the Wizards don't wise he will learn how on another NBA Team. It is way past leaving it all on McGee.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Anybody know who the top NCAA B-ball prospect is for next years draft? Looks likes we'll have the most ping pong balls!

Posted by: zack5 | November 13, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

When the game was clearly in doubt in the third and you had to throw out the gameplan and just ball, the Wizards start to play a bit better.

I wonder why is that?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Memo to Flip: KH sucks! Please put his @$$ on the beach!. BTW-You suck as well, please feel free to sit beside him at the end of the bench!

Again, game would e a blow out if Gil wasn't in the line up!

Posted by: zack5 | November 13, 2010 10:33 PM | Report abuse

McGee is an idiot! Zero basketball IQ. Therefore, no rebounds. His mom is one of the better female players of all-time. If he doesn't have a better feel for the game by now, it is unlikely he ever will.

Hilton Armstrong is a complete idiot as well!

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 13, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Nice defense the Bulls have. Too bad the idiot Eddie Jordan ran Thibadeau out of town or we would probably have some semblance of a defense.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 13, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse


Nick Young provided a nice spark to bring the Wizards back in the game. As soon as Nick Young gave the team a huge spark in the 4th, what does Flip do? He puts Hinrich back in the game. Un-F-Believable.


Posted by: 2020doc | November 13, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Andre Blatche? Dude refuse to mix it up in the paint. 6'11 and insistent on shooting jump shots. Bad jump shots at that. Whenever he was out on the floor he played the Wizards out of the game. Dude need some tough juice.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

I agreed with the decision to bench McGee at the moment when Chicago kept getting the offensive rebound after 4 tries. McGee was playing volleyball. But let's look at the facts here. You can have the highest IQ in basketball and still get out rebounded with McGee's body. Those leg aren't thick enough to box out anybody. At one point against the Bobcat, one guy held onto McGee's chest with one hand and McGee couldn't move. Instead, he was shouting hoping the ref would call holding foul. Also, I am wondering if McGee have limitation on how much he can play due to his asthma? Allowing Derrick Rose to drive for an easy bucket was shameful.

Start Gil and let H come off the bench.

Posted by: demonj21 | November 13, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards front court is a poor rebounding front because they are soft, but to make matters worse, Flip sits in zone defense for most of the game. Defensive rebounding is very difficult out of a zone look.

And since most teams, like the Bulls did tonight, are going to shoot over the top of your zone. When they miss, those long caroms are going to turn into offensive rebounds.

One of two things is the problem.
Either Grunfeld can't find teachable players or Flip can't teach worth squat.


Posted by: bozomoeman | November 13, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

McGee is an idiot! Zero basketball IQ. Therefore, no rebounds. His mom is one of the better female players of all-time. If he doesn't have a better feel for the game by now, it is unlikely he ever will.

Hilton Armstrong is a complete idiot as well!

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 13, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

How in the world are you saying he has no feel for the game....??? I am totally lost on that statement...!!!! The last 4 games McGee has been focusing on getting rebounds and you can clearly see the effort.

For some odd reason, Flip is decreasing his minutes and always takes him out the last 5 to 6 mins of the 2nd and 4th quarters. I don't get it.

It almost looks like that movie I saw a couple of years ago with Eddie Jordan and Brenden Haywood. Same storyline, just different actors.........

***Flip is going to "kill" McGee's energy if he is not careful. I don't know what more he wants the young dude to do. If he thinks Armstrong is a better option, then oh boy we are in trouble......

Posted by: BulletsFever | November 13, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Yi hurt his knee and it did not look good. Hopefully, it's not too serious. I agree that if Hinrich is going to play so much minutes he's going to have to be more effective one way or the other.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Tom T. can just flat coach as well. I think that is what Jordan was afraid of. But from Jordan's perspective, he did the right thing. It shows the incompetence of the Wizard front office.

Jordan caused Tom T. to exit becuase he knew that Grunfields brought him in as the next coach, but Grunfield did not have the guts to seal the deal, so Tom T. walked.

Just think the stir that Grunfield would have caused to fire Eddie then, but eating Eddie's contract then probably would have changed this whole franchise for the better.

We would never have had to go through Tapps, Saunders, and probably the gunfight might never have occurred.

Hindsight is a beach.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 13, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

What's up with Andre Blatche? Dude refuse to mix it up in the paint. 6'11 and insistent on shooting jump shots. Bad jump shots at that. Whenever he was out on the floor he played the Wizards out of the game. Dude need some tough juice.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse


Was thinking the same thing. Michael Wilbon may have a point on Blatche when he said he's a guy that care about clubbing than basketball. Look at Blatche's body! He's not fit and please dont tell me that lame excuse "he had a broken foot and couldn't workout". He could had eaten vegetables and Blatche admitted this. If you really want to be a great player then you'll do whatever you can to get to that level. Heck, Blatche went ahead and sign an cheap extension. What does that tell you? Still, would keep him as a backup.

Posted by: demonj21 | November 13, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Detroit fans before last season said that any time they played a team with good defense they got shutdown and thats why they never won in the playoffs. They said a good Defensive team exposes Flip's offensive system. They said its based off of all jumpers. Thats what it looked like so far this season.

Im not going to fully blame him because we have some top guys who are injuried or just coming back and we always have the worst IQ basketball team in the league but he has to make some adjustments. Us running that same double curl play is so redundant. Its all pick & roll or double curl.

Also, Ive said this since the 1st day Gil came back. He should start and I think he should be the PG in the halfcourt. Its not so much about being the PG as it is positioning. The PG is pretty much always at the top & the SG is on the wing. When we throw it into the post, they double down & leave Wall open up top, which is not his game because he cant shoot. It would be so much better to have a shooter like Gil there. They cant double our bigs then or Gil will kill them. Not only that but if they run out on Gil, he can then swing it to Wall who can slash. Its hard for Wall to do that at the top because the D is sagging off so far but on the wing he could do it all day with Gil at the top.

Gil is also a great passer/playmaker now while Wall still struggles in the halfcourt at times. This would also take pressure off the kid and make it easier for him to go through the whole season. I would love for us to be healthy and have Gil at the top with Wall & Howard on the wings. Dont get it twisted though. Wall is great and he could easily learn it soon enough & be good at the top. Either way its time for them to start playing together more, which means we have to start Gil

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 13, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Gilby had a good game, but this game was lost early on....it was just a matter of how much they would lose by. I'm more surprised that Gilby seems to be avoiding contact. He didn't get on the FT line until about 2 min left in the 4th quarter. One play he drove against that white rookie, and his shot was eaten up. No elevation. Gilby took 22 shots, but had 2 shots from the FT line.

Lookit....Les BouleS shot 8 FT's....Bulls shot 34!!!!!

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=301113004

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 13, 2010 11:17 PM | Report abuse

I understand that this is John Wall's team and that he is the face of the franchise but enough with Gilbert deferring to him. When Gilbert is healthy he is still the best player on this team and tonight we saw some of that. Once Arenas is a 100% he should be the first option.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse


By my math, the Wizards starters scored a combined 40 points tonight. 40 points!

Wizards need more lottery luck in 2011 and 2012 to get John Wall two more starters and then the Wizards have a fighting chance. The guys we currently have (that includes Blatche and McGee) are backups on a good team.

Posted by: ahwyatt | November 13, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Well I didn't expect them to win this game, against a very good team on the road on a back to back... they played well & aggresive and in the game to have a chance.

It was good to see Arenas playing well. I know he's not in top shape yet, but it concerns me a bit his lack of explosiveness. He used to burst through the lane before defenses could react to him and finish strong. That was his game! Now he just kinda weaves through the lane and has no speed or lift. He was droppin shots though tonight, heatin up the hibachi!

I thought Yi played good tonight til he got hurt. Also good to see Booker get some run.

One thing about McGee (oh by the way you trade blocks for rebounds son, rebound you got 50% chance of possession IF it stays in bounds a rebound IS possession)... but when he's in there he's got to be more of a primary option offensively. His size and skill gotta be taken advantage of and he hits a high % of his shots. It will open up things for our perimeter scorers if the D has to be concerned with him, and helps pick up fouls on the D's bigs. But he is difficult to match up with and stop when he gets the ball inside. If we can utilize more of his advantages it will help alleviate the presence of his deficiencies.

I liked how we were goin with the unit of Hinrich, Arenas, Young, Thornton, Blatche. Arenas & Young were the hot shooters. Hinrich was steady, and Blatche & Thornton were playin hard. I wish we woulda stayed with them or gone back to that group down the stretch.

Flip is annoying with his seeming random substitutions and over subbing. Sometimes I wonder if he's been watching the game.

He needs to get off his Hinrich obsession no offense to Kirk. But we gotta get the Wall/Arenas backcourt kickin on all cylinders asap, it's the only chance this team has at respectability.

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 13, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

"I understand that this is John Wall's team and that he is the face of the franchise but enough with Gilbert deferring to him. When Gilbert is healthy he is still the best player on this team and tonight we saw some of that. Once Arenas is a 100% he should be the first option.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:18 PM | Report abuse "

Sorry, being the best player on the team means nothing if the team doesn't win.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 13, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I meant...

"block shot you got 50% chance of possession IF it stays in bounds a rebound IS possession"

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 13, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

If Grunfeld plans to trade Gilby by the deadline, then that may also mean JaTravel goes too.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 13, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Hilton Armstrong is better than he gets credit for. He gave us 8 and 10 tonight and even when he doesn't have a big box score kind of game, he's hands down the best big we have when it comes to setting screens, positioning, and mobility.

Posted by: kbronson1 | November 13, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, being the best player on the team means nothing if the team doesn't win.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 13, 2010 11:26 PM |

Arenas scored 30pts, 6 rebs, 4 asst and 2 stls in 32 minutes and like always you had to find fault. Your bias against Arenas is so over the top its shameful.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

DC_Man88, trading Javale would mean Useld is the GM. Javale is what, 22 and 7'1" and can move like a point guard? That is rare in the NBA. So trading McGee is a no no... But on the other hand trading Blacthe for a number one pick in 2011 wouldn't be a bad deal.

Posted by: demonj21 | November 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Would anyone here pull McGee & Young for Marc Gasol deal?

Posted by: Darnell1 | November 13, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

The lack of rebounding should not be solely blamed on McGee. Where is our power forward? Dennis Rodman, Jason Williams and Charles Barley were top rebounders who were PFs. Mcgee is going to be out of position as he goes to contest shots. Blatche needs to toughen up and be consistent with it. Mcgee would be much more effective with a PF who is a strong rebounder.

Posted by: spades72 | November 14, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

"Sometimes I wonder if [Flip has] been watching the game.Posted by: Darnell1"

I don't see how he can avoid it. Even if he wanted to.

The Wiz sent Bulls to the FT line all night -- 34 times, vs 8 for Washington. You don't need to look much beyond that simple statistic to know what happened in this game.

Still weird to hear people talk about Rose outplaying Wall -- a star playing in his 180th NBA game versus a kid playing in his 8th -- if he didn't outplay John, something would be very wrong. But once again, check the numbers: Wall had one fewer FG, one more 3, and one less TO than his adversary.

This was Gilbert's night, but that rookie is something.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 14, 2010 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, Wall had one more TO than Rose.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 14, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

"Arenas scored 30pts, 6 rebs, 4 asst and 2 stls in 32 minutes and like always you had to find fault. Your bias against Arenas is so over the top its shameful.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse "

Did the team win or lose? Was it even close until the end? Out of 22 shots, how many did he take from the FT line? I rest my case.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

"DC_Man88, trading Javale would mean Useld is the GM. Javale is what, 22 and 7'1" and can move like a point guard? That is rare in the NBA. So trading McGee is a no no... But on the other hand trading Blacthe for a number one pick in 2011 wouldn't be a bad deal.

Posted by: demonj21 | November 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse "

JaTravel moves like a PG? Why don't you play him as a 1 or 2 guard then. If you want to get rid of Gilby, you'll have to give up something to get something...and that may mean JaTravel.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

"Arenas scored 30pts, 6 rebs, 4 asst and 2 stls in 32 minutes and like always you had to find fault. Your bias against Arenas is so over the top its shameful.

Posted by: spades72 | November 13, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse "

Did the team win or lose? Was it even close until the end? Out of 22 shots, how many did he take from the FT line? I rest my case.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Knucklehead he was 11 for 22 (50 %) but with an effective percentage of 68% considering the value of the 3 point shot. More importantly, his defense was solid as I have ever seen him which is extremely positive. Arenas had a +1 with the difference in the game being when Arenas was on the bench. This was a 20 point loss without Arenas.

This game bodes well for our squad as Aenas rounds into basketball shape. Rather than harping on Arenas' shortcomings, Flip Saunders clearly is not the right coach for this team. He is terrible in player development, in game rotations and strategy.

Posted by: NewManagement | November 14, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

"Knucklehead he was 11 for 22 (50 %) but with an effective percentage of 68% considering the value of the 3 point shot. More importantly, his defense was solid as I have ever seen him which is extremely positive. Arenas had a +1 with the difference in the game being when Arenas was on the bench. This was a 20 point loss without Arenas.

This game bodes well for our squad as Aenas rounds into basketball shape. Rather than harping on Arenas' shortcomings, Flip Saunders clearly is not the right coach for this team. He is terrible in player development, in game rotations and strategy.

Posted by: NewManagement | November 14, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse "

Get over your obsession with individual performances and maybe you'll notice that Les BouleS lost again. Gilby took 22 shots but didn't make it to the FT line until 2 min were left in the 4th quarter. And, you wonder why the Bulls shot 34 FT's and Les BouleS shot 8, and the Bulls won. Gilby was hot from the field, but if you can't get draw fouls and get to the FT line, you're not going to win.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Gilby had a good game, but this game was lost early on....it was just a matter of how much they would lose by. I'm more surprised that Gilby seems to be avoiding contact. He didn't get on the FT line until about 2 min left in the 4th quarter. One play he drove against that white rookie, and his shot was eaten up. No elevation. Gilby took 22 shots, but had 2 shots from the FT line.

Lookit....Les BouleS shot 8 FT's....Bulls shot 34!!!!!

You're a bias negative @$$h*le. There should be a "mute" button on your posting as you continue to lack attention a home! Anyone can see that this game was not lost early KH played far too much with almost no productivity. This team is not a real go mix of players but the coaching is just as bad. Gil is the best player on this team and should be starting as our starting 5 provide very little offense and we're often out of game early.

Posted by: zack5 | November 14, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse

"Did the team win or lose? Was it even close until the end? Out of 22 shots, how many did he take from the FT line? I rest my case."
Posted by: DC_MAN88

Rest your case? You shouldn't. Arenas played as well tonight as he played poorly against Charlotte. He's not going to the basket much, true, but then, I suspect the coaches are keeping him outside to insure the lane is clear for Wall. That's how the DDM is supposed to work, anyway. He connected on 7 of 10 3-pointers. Of course, nobody averages 70% from outside, but that's got to help his confidence.

I'm wondering why Wall isn't going to the line more often. Might be the refs not giving calls to a rookie. The way he penetrates, he should have been on the line more (Derrick got 7 FT attempts, vs 1 for Wall).

Wiz took 13 more shots than Chicago, hit 6 more of them. Team's jacking up enough shots -- that's not a problem.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 14, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

"You're a bias negative @$$h*le. There should be a "mute" button on your posting as you continue to lack attention a home! Anyone can see that this game was not lost early KH played far too much with almost no productivity. This team is not a real go mix of players but the coaching is just as bad. Gil is the best player on this team and should be starting as our starting 5 provide very little offense and we're often out of game early.

Posted by: zack5 | November 14, 2010 6:16 AM | Report abuse "

Sorry idiot, but Gilby WOULD be starting and continuing to be the face of the franchise had he not deep sixed his career and future here. Tell me when did Les BouleS actually lead in the game during the 2nd half? Never. There should be a mute button for idiots like you, or even better, a trash button so that any input from you goes straight to the trash where it belongs.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 14, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

"Rest your case? You shouldn't. Arenas played as well tonight as he played poorly against Charlotte. He's not going to the basket much, true, but then, I suspect the coaches are keeping him outside to insure the lane is clear for Wall. That's how the DDM is supposed to work, anyway. He connected on 7 of 10 3-pointers. Of course, nobody averages 70% from outside, but that's got to help his confidence.

I'm wondering why Wall isn't going to the line more often. Might be the refs not giving calls to a rookie. The way he penetrates, he should have been on the line more (Derrick got 7 FT attempts, vs 1 for Wall).

Wiz took 13 more shots than Chicago, hit 6 more of them. Team's jacking up enough shots -- that's not a problem.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 14, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse "

Are you not paying attention? I said Gilby had a good game. I also said not only he, but the entire team only shot 8 FT's, while the Bulls shot 34. I don't care how many 3's Gilby connects on. The team cannot win if they don't cause the defense to give up fouls and go to the FT line.

Don't say you "suspect" anything from the coaches. That's just pure conjecture. What we see is that he does not go hard to the basket anymore, and when he does, he can't finish strong with the bucket, or the foul.

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