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Open thread: Wizards (3-6) at Celtics (8-2)

By Michael Lee

John Wall and Yi Jianlian will not play against Boston, as both players are still recovering from injuries. Yi took some jumpers on his right knee before the game but Wall was in the locker room receiving treatment on his sprained left foot. He also had a walking boot in front of his stall. "He's moving around," Coach Flip Saunders said of Yi. "John's made progress. Still a little sore, rather than take any chances. He's pretty much day to day. He made a lot of progress and all the swelling went down, so we thought there was a chance yesterday. But flying and everything else, there's still soreness. We'll have to see how it is." Yi said that it "won't be long" before he returns to action. "It feels better. Straight up and down is fine. Not able to go side to side yet." Chat about the game in the comments below, or join the conversation on Twitter with Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 7:30 p.m.; TV: CSN-Plus; Radio: 106.7 FM.


By Michael Lee  | November 17, 2010; 7:21 PM ET
 
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Blathce has been a black hole tonight. His +/- has to be thru the floor.

He makes everyone around him worse.

Posted by: dominic10464 | November 17, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Javale Magee is tremendous and I remember when the Bullets traded another shot-blocking fiend, Ben Wallace, for Ike Austin. Magee is a different type of player but look what a terror he's becoming on the boards and among the leaders in blocked shots with limited minutes.

Posted by: nativedc | November 17, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

As suspected.

Blatche -20 in the first half.

Posted by: dominic10464 | November 17, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards come crashing back down to earth tonight not that i expected anything different the Celtic's may have one last run in them via the big three and i wouldn't hand the Larry O' Brien trophy over to those three guy's in Miami just yet, i remember when our big three use to go up to Beantown and actually beat the Celtic's but that of course was when Eddie Jordan was coaching you recall Eddie don't you the best coach this franchise has had in the last twenty years.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 17, 2010 8:48 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz look terrified of attacking the rim.
Flip must have placed a standing order not to embarrass his favorite player, Garnett..

Posted by: bozomoeman | November 17, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh Yeah and one more thing why is any player in this league allowed to tweet or whatever the hell they do if i'm the coach NO TWEETING DURING THE SEASON, PERIOD you want to tweet then go play for somebody else, this is what our society has turned into, verbal skills have gone out of the window young people can barely speak a cohesive sentence yet they can text and tweet their dumbazz's off, U F B!!

Posted by: dargregmag | November 17, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh Yeah and one more thing why is any player in this league allowed to tweet or whatever the hell they do if i'm the coach NO TWEETING DURING THE SEASON, PERIOD you want to tweet then go play for somebody else, this is what our society has turned into, verbal skills have gone out of the window young people can barely speak a cohesive sentence yet they can text and tweet their dumbazz's off, U F B!!

Posted by: dargregmag | November 17, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Sorry about the double post!!.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 17, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The way Boston is shooting (66%) tonight, there'd be something wrong if the Wiz were within 10 points. Nobody's parading to the FT line, although that might start soon. Thing that catches my attention at the moment is that the Wiz actually have more offensive rebounds than defensive -- can't recall seeing that before. McGee for instance has twice as many offensive boards as on the other end...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 17, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS THE MOST DEFENSIVE CHALLENGED TEAM IN THE NBA....I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY ALLY-OOPS AND BACK DOOR CUTS IN ONE DARN GAME!!!!!...BLATCHE IS A JOKE....KEVIN GARNETT IS BEATING HIM LIKE A RENTED MULE!!!!!

Posted by: redskinsfaninnc | November 17, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

BEANTOWN BEATDOWN!!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | November 17, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Blatche have to be more decisive with the basketball. Way too much dribbling allowing the defense to set and getting double teamed. Also not getting back on the defensive end to help out on the boards.

Posted by: spades72 | November 17, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Raise your hand if you expected much better when the third youngest team in the league is playing a team with 4 HOF players and, perhaps, the best PG in the league. Raise it. Ok...then the fact that they played them close and fairly well for large chunks of the game should be a decent consolation.

Posted by: rphilli721 | November 17, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Blatche is soft. He wanted no part of Garnett tonight.

Posted by: Skinz4Lyfe | November 17, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

McGee, Blatche, Armstrong and Seraphin went a combined 0-0 from the FT line. OUTSTANDING!

Posted by: Skinz4Lyfe | November 17, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame if Yi were healthy the Wizards would have won that game with his toughness!

Isn't that what Ernie told us...he was adding some toughness to the front line?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 17, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Phil Chenier said what I have been saying all along. When McGee goes to contest shots somebody have to be there to get the rebound. It's hard to commit yourself to go after the block shot and be able to be in a position to get the defensive rebound. The power forward have to give more help.

Posted by: spades72 | November 17, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame Yi didn't play tonight the Wizards really needed his toughness on the front line.

Is there still anyone who thinks Ernie knows how to put together a winning team?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 17, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

"Phil Chenier said what I have been saying all along. When McGee goes to contest shots somebody have to be there to get the rebound. It's hard to commit yourself to go after the block shot and be able to be in a position to get the defensive rebound. The power forward have to give more help.

Posted by: spades72 | November 17, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse "

You mean what I've been saying.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 17, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

So, is anybody going to post today saying Gilby looked really good tonight, played tough D, looked quick, looked strong, facilitated really well, etc.? I don't think so.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | November 17, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I've said it from day 1...

The Wizards would rue the day they fired Eddie Jordan.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 18, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Great to see the reincarnation of EJordan love.
I am also so nostalgic for that oh so impressive faux Princeton weave.
Also that totally dysfunctional treatment of favorites and the largest doghouse since M Vicks arraignment.
Being the alleged best Wiz coach is not exactly worth enshrinement into the HOF.
The problems with this franchise supersede EJ
Obviously to most, Twitch is no more the answer than was EJ.
A young, bright and heady coach is a necessity. Especially one with the full backing of management, in order to
be able to make the tough calla re court time, based on performance and talent, and not prejudices and totally invested in only saving their own hide.

Posted by: mricklen | November 18, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

if Arenas can pull off what Vick is doing right now ... am i only dreaming? it is a long season ... and a long night ...

Posted by: BulletsForEva | November 18, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

THIS IS THE MOST DEFENSIVE CHALLENGED TEAM IN THE NBA....I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY ALLY-OOPS AND BACK DOOR CUTS IN ONE DARN GAME!!!!!...

Posted by: redskinsfaninnc

Obviously they did not play great D tonight, but three things I will say about it. First, for most of the relevant parts of the game, I think they gave good effort, they were just outclassed and outsized by Shaq. Second, while the Wiz did give up a lot of open shots, the Celts were also unusually dialed in. Third, about the back door cuts....they were still great set-ups and passes from Rondo, but if Hilton Armstrong's pick was a moving pick (as was called), KG set moving picks on every one of those back door cuts to Pierce.

I thought McGee had perhaps his best game that I've seen. I could have done without the wild shots after his great rebounds. But even that he seemed to tone down after a bit. I appreciated his hustle, even if it some times got him out of position. And he did about as well with Shaq as you can expect him to do.

I also thought Thornton and Young played solid games. Pretty much everyone else struggled, though they mostly gave good effort, and I appreciated how long they tried to hang in. KH did not play well tonight, but he lived up to his gritty rep. I thought he did his best to battle in the third, but the game was mostly gone by that point. Arenas played hard, but his shot was not falling tonight, partly on his own, partly because of Boston's D.

I was a bit disappointed by Blatche tonight. KG looked more live tonight. AB struggled a bit, and they also ran a few double teams at him, but I felt like he pretty much shut it down early. He started fading out to the 3, instead of working inside.

Posted by: ts35 | November 18, 2010 2:16 AM | Report abuse

First Question:
Is Flip Saunders the right coach for this young Wizards team?

Has he utilized the time wisely to develop ALL the players on this team?

Does he know the potential/weaknesses of the players he is coaching?

Is Flip Saunders executing the best rotation possible with the game situations that occur during crucial moments in the game?

How many losses will the Wizards have before Ted realizes that hmmm maybe it's not the players...?

Last Question:
How many losses/excuses (this year) are you as a fan of the Wizards willing to accept/support?

Posted by: ronniecope106 | November 18, 2010 3:25 AM | Report abuse

"How many losses will the Wizards have before Ted realizes that hmmm maybe it's not the players...? Last Question: How many losses/excuses (this year) are you as a fan of the Wizards willing to accept/support? Posted by: ronniecope106"

Hmmm... and maybe it is the players?

Things always look darkest to fanz after a loss like that. Couple other things to consider:

The Wiz' 3 victories were all at home against opponents -- Philly, Houston, and Toronto -- that have been struggling, too.

In three of the Wiz losses -- Orlando, Chicago, and last night in Boston -- they've been out of it early against what appear to be vastly superior teams.

In two other losses -- Atlanta and Charlotte -- they played competitively against more experienced clubs.

I've said before that the real question about John Wall will be how he adjusts to the losing, because there's likely to be a lot of it before this season is done. I think the same is true for us fans.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 18, 2010 4:50 AM | Report abuse

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