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Posted at 8:02 AM ET, 11/30/2010

On to Toronto, probably without Hilton Armstrong

By Michael Lee
Morning brew

The Wizards left Miami after their 105-94 loss to the Heat on Monday night and immediately headed to Toronto, where they will likely play the Raptors on Wednesday without reserve center Hilton Armstrong. Armstrong was ejected in the third quarter when he pushed Heat reserve Joel Anthony from the air as he attempted an uncontested layup on a broken defensive play.

The push was identical to the shove Elton Brand gave JaVale McGee in Washington last week, when the Wizards defeated Philadelphia 116-114 in overtime. McGee said he thought about that play when he saw Anthony dropping to the ground at American Airlines Arena. He even joked with Armstrong after the game. "I called him Elton Brand when we got back here," McGee said with a laugh.

Brand received a one-game suspension for shoving McGee and the Wizards are expecting a similar punishment for Armstrong. "It hurts just because he is a big man," Coach Flip Saunders said. "The thing that helps a little bit is Toronto doesn't play big. They play pretty small, so that will be one advantage."

Armstrong said he wasn't trying to harm Anthony -- although knocking a defenseless airborne player is incredibly dangerous -- and he attempted to help Anthony back up from the ground before Juwan Howard came from behind to push him. I did try to help him up afterwards, but I didn't get to him," said Armstrong, adding that he understood Howard's reaction. "[I]f it happened to any of our teammates and we was on the court, I'm sure we would've done the same thing. If I was in the vicinity, I'm running over to their aide also."

No player was near McGee or Brand last week, but when Armstrong got pushed in the back, Nick Young quickly showed up to confront Howard. Armstrong was still hopeful that he wouldn't get a suspension. "I can't control that," he said. "I would hope not, because my intentions was not to hurt anyone."

FROM THE POST
The game story from today's newspaper, and the postgame wrap-up.

Heat players are reportedly frustrated with Coach Erik Spoelstra (The Early Lead).

AROUND THE WEB
On the lighter side, Truth About It shares a pre-game jig by Hamady N'Diaye and Kevin Seraphin.

Miami Herald columnist Israel Gutierrez says last night's "laugher" -- and a sense of humor -- are the best medicine for everything that ails the Miami Heat.

Sun Sentinel columnist Ira Winderman asks: Who's really in charge in Miami?

Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski says King James wants Spoelstra to bow to him.

And ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst believes the Heat can't afford to coddle James.

By Michael Lee  | November 30, 2010; 8:02 AM ET
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I was watching the game last night and at one point my wife, Mrs. Balz, stepped into the family room, watched the game for a few minutes and said, "The Wizards still just long shoot jumpers and the other team makes layups. That's why they never win."

I thought that summed things up nicely.

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

"The Wizards still just shoot long jumpers and the other team makes layups. That's why they never win."

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

"The Wizards still just shoot long jumpers and the other team makes layups. That's why they never win."

Point in the paint last night:

wiz- 40
heat- 38

Last night was one of the FT games that infuriates many fans and has people cursing David Stern. There was a critical stretch where Gil and Nick couldn't buy a call while Miami was at the line every other possession.

But that's what happens to bad teams, especially on the roads, the Wiz will have to get better before they can expect different.

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

some positives last night:

Javale's rebounding efforts seems to be who he has become as a player. 10 last night including 5off boards to go with 10pts on 5-7 shooting in just 26mins. He's establishing himself as our starting Center, not quite there yet, but even his biggest detractors are mute at this point. Definitely a brightspot on the season.

Nick played with energy and purpose despite his shot not falling. Love to see him taking it to the rack and he will get those calls eventually. The sequence where he took Lebron one-on-one then checked him on the other end had to warm Flip's heart. He's been easily better than Kirk and is now pushing on Gil....great problem for Flip to have.

Wall, Nick, AB, JM...avg age 22. Silver linings as the losses mount

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Point in the paint last night:

wiz- 40
heat- 38

Eight of those points for the Wizards came in about the final two minutes of the game, with scrubs in and the outcome of the game determined.

Mrs. Balz is rarely wrong about these things. :-)

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

On to Toronto, probably without Hilton Armstrong

How can the Wizards expect to win without Hilton Armstrong in the lineup. He is just one of about 5 players on this team who would be playing in the Euroleague if it weren't for Ernie's incompetency.

For anyone who hopes Gil can get traded please think twice before you get what you wish for...why would you want Ernie to be the guy who makes that deal considering what he didn't get for CB, BTH and AJ?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 30, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it. Teams are who they are. The Wizards (without John Wall) are a jump shooting team. Arenas and Young CAN drive to the hoop. But both of them have been relying on their jumpshots. Andray Blatche (who I usually criticize) has been very effective lately, mixing an assortment of short-range jumpers with baseline drives to the hoop.

Right now, the Wizards are banged up. But they don't give up. They showed a lot of energy in the last three or four games. John Wall, Al Thornton, Yi Jianlian and Josh Howard will return soon. When those four guys return, this team will be competitive. The Wizards will be fun to watch January through April.

In the meantime, Alonzo Gee, Trevor Booker and Seraphim will get an extended opportunity to showcase their talents.

Posted by: musicmanjr | November 30, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree with something else someone else said.

I like Seraphin too. Sometimes he does look lost...but when he does it's like..we'll let me put a body on somebody at least.

Instead of Blatche watching. He is TERRIBLE on the pick and roll. It almost takes effort to be as BAD as he is.

I can deal with that kind of effort while he learns.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

The energy was better for an away game, but only 14 assists with 5 of them coming in the final 2:20. Lots of bad basketball there.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 30, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

For anyone who hopes Gil can get traded please think twice before you get what you wish for...why would you want Ernie to be the guy who makes that deal considering what he didn't get for CB, BTH and AJ?

Good point. While I hoping we're trade Gil, we're better off keeping him until we get a new GM and a coach. Speaking of coach, it would be nice if the Wiz hire Alonzo Mourning to coach our big men.

Posted by: demonj21 | November 30, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I thought Blatche played a terrible game. Sure, his point productoin was solid, but his lack of effort on the defensive end is appalling. He's a turnstile. Also, he appears averse to blocking out when rebouding, and he floats passes across the floor. And what's going on with his jumper. Why is he putting so much air under it these days? I don't remember it being that pronounced last year. Any good shooting coach knows that a ball approaching the hoop at that angle has is less likely to go in than one at a sharper angle. Flip is frustrated, but he doesn't have a lot of options.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | November 30, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

musicmanjr,

John Wall, Al Thornton, Yi Jianlian and Josh Howard will return soon...didn't we hear the same thing about Gil for years and Critt last year?

In the meantime, Alonzo Gee, Trevor Booker and Seraphim will get an extended opportunity to showcase their talents...yea 3 guys who would be playing in the D league if they were on a good team.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | November 30, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

It was interesting to watch the young guys to see how they performed. I thought I could see the effects of Javale's back injury (bruise?). Wondered if he'd received a Toradol injection before the game, like the NFL players do. He got his 5 o-boards in 26 minutes, which is very good, but only 5 on defense, which is ordinary -- by comparison, Ilgauskas took down 5 d-boards in 13 minutes, and Dampier snatched 4 in 12. Javale got his 2 blocks but but fouled out in 26 --bad ref, no doubt.

On Nick: always interesting to see how he does when his shot doesn't fall (4 of 15, 26.6%, 0 for 4 from outside the arc). I liked that he hit 5 of 6 FTs. Otherwise, he had 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 blocks, 1 TO in 33 minutes -- stat-wise, at least, an unproductive night.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

you can criticize the lack of points in the paint if you want but i did see arenas drive to the basket and get contact at least 5 times and arenas only got to the line once. After multiple attempts it gets to your mind that these officials hate me and won't give me the call so why put my body in harms way for contact. If wall was there he would get the calls because he is a more marketable player and brings money to the nba.

Posted by: jefferu | November 30, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

"In the meantime, Alonzo Gee, Trevor Booker and Seraphim will get an extended opportunity to showcase their talents...yea 3 guys who would be playing in the D league if they were on a good team.Posted by: bulletsfan78"

That could very well be true. Gee doesn't need more D-league time, but the others might benefit, particularly Seraphin.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

ZardsFan1 wrote:
I thought Blatche played a terrible game. Sure, his point production was solid, but his lack of effort on the defensive end is appalling. He's a turnstile.

Andray Blatche is a potential 20/10 guy. Remember, Antawn Jamison put up those kind of numbers and was a terrible defender as well. If Blatche is a turnstile, Jamison was a matador. Antawn also had an array of unorthodox jumpshots. But, 'Twan was considered a go-to guy.

Give Andray his props. He's no all-star, but since the 2009-2010 season he's progressed tremendously as a forward.

Posted by: musicmanjr | November 30, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

you can criticize the lack of points in the paint if you want but i did see arenas drive to the basket and get contact at least 5 times and arenas only got to the line once.

Hoopdata has Arenas 1-2 at the rim,and 1-2 at less than 10 feet. That's out of 21 FGA.

Posted by: djnnnou | November 30, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

you can criticize the lack of points in the paint if you want but i did see arenas drive to the basket and get contact at least 5 times and arenas only got to the line once.

Blatche went to the line 14x while Gil and Nick were definitely trying to initiate contact while driving to the hoop. Good signs, but the Heat are notoriously soft inside. We need to see them continue to do this against stouter squads

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Dray Talk & Im Encouraged

Dray's still not shooting that great but I thought in the last 2 games, he physically moved as well as Ive seen him all year. He's looking quick again and not like a slug like he was prior to that. I think he's knocking off the rust and his conditioning is coming back, hence the 22 boards in the last 2 games. Ill take that any day. I think his shooting & shot selection will start to get better now due to him regaining the conditiong & timing.

We have a bad record right now and some tough games coming up but I actually think we will start to play well & win. We play at Toronto next game and if Dray keeps the energy up, along with Gil getting his timing back, I think we win. We then have some hard games after that but pretty much all those teams have trouble with the quicker athletic teams. I think these last 2 games showed Flip that Hinrich shouldnt start. Hopefully next game will be the 1st where we have the Wall-Gil backcourt with no Hinrich in the starting group. Thats when you can really judge how well Wall & Gil play together and I think they will look fine.

We will probably also get Al back in the next game or 2 and Yi will probably be back within the next 3 games. We then can start Wall-Gil-Al-Dray-McGee while coming off the bench with Hinrich-NY-Gee-Yi-HA. I like that mix of guys. We should be pretty athletic at all times while having a nice mix of youth & vetrans on both units. McGee will continue to improve and I see Dray & Gil only getting better. Get Wall back to get us some easy transistion baskets and another guy to put pressure on the D & keep teams in foul trouble, and I think you will see a different team from here on out. Then we will be saying how much it sucks that we lost early against all those bad teams that we shouldve beaten

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 30, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

@bulletsfan78:
Unfortunately, Gee, Booker and Seraphim are NOT on a good team.

The Spurs didn't have room for Alonzo Gee and basically tried to hide him with the Austin Toros. Trevor Booker has mad hops and WILL find a place on any roster. I agree that Kevin Seraphim would probably be better off starting in the EuroLeague.

But the point I'm making is that the Wizards are blessed to have athletic guys on the end of their bench. It wasn't that long ago that we had slugs like DeShawn Stevenson eating up minutes.

Posted by: musicmanjr | November 30, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Musicman, I'm not a Blatche hater by any means. I just want to see better effort from him. He's got so much skill, but his effort is inconsistent. It may be that he is still out of shape, which results in physical and mental lapses.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | November 30, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

It wasn't that long ago that we had slugs like DeShawn Stevenson eating up minutes.
Posted by: musicmanjr

The same DeShawn Stevenson that starts for the 13-4 Dallas Mavericks?

Posted by: djnnnou | November 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Neither team played well. How many point-blank shots did wade miss? Too bad Wizards could not take advantage of that because they shot poorly themselves. Yang shot 4 for 15 and Hinrcih 2 for , 27% combined.

I guess this team with Wall, Thornton, and Yi out is a godsend confidence building opponent for the Miami that comes at the right time! As Miami Herald beat writer wrote, "so they can claim the players only meeting works!"

Posted by: sagaliba | November 30, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Reading up on the struggles of DeMarcus Cousins in Sacramento: he made the news for getting tossed out of practice yesterday for unspecified reasons -- probably frustration as he's connecting on only 38% of his FGs (the Kings' lowest) and leading the league in fouls with 4.2 in a bit more than 23 minutes... maybe he misses John Wall. A talented guy but he really does need someone to draw the defense away from him, and Evans is having a poor start to the year.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"Yang shot 4 for 15 and Hinrcih 2 for , 27% combined."

Good thing the Wiz don't have a Yang or Hinrcih on their rosters, huh?

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who felt some type of way when Hilton was shoved by Juwan and Gilbert did NOTHING even though he was the closest Wizard at the time? I mean, Nick Young of all people was over there standing up for his teammate! Gil is not apart of this team. He's just on it. He needs to go. For the better of both him and this franchise.

Posted by: CBell29 | November 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

"The same DeShawn Stevenson that starts for the 13-4 Dallas Mavericks?Posted by: djnnnou"

The very same. You realize he's shooting 50% from 3? Only averaging 12 minutes a game for the year, however. The guy plays good perimeter defense, something that apparently isn't valued that much by fanz here.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I think these last 2 games showed Flip that Hinrich shouldnt start. Hopefully next game will be the 1st where we have the Wall-Gil backcourt with no Hinrich in the starting group. Thats when you can really judge how well Wall & Gil play together and I think they will look fine.

Hinrich is been terrible over the last 4 games, he's looking more and more like a backup that should be playing 25mins or so. Bet he'd thrive in that role, but EG/Flip have set him up from the day he signed as clearly one of the top guys on the team. Will be interesting to see how Flip proceeds once Wall is healthy. I think Hinrich will have a very strong "bounce back" game Wednesday.

We then can start Wall-Gil-Al-Dray-McGee while coming off the bench with Hinrich-NY-Gee-Yi-HA. I like that mix of guys.

The KH/NY 2nd unit would hopefully be able to torch opposing 2nd units, would be great to see that tandem. But as far as Yi/HA....I'd rather see TB/KS bringing physical play off the bench

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 11:01 AM | Report abuse


The guy plays good perimeter defense, something that apparently isn't valued that much by fanz here.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:48 AM

How do you quantify "good perimeter defense", Sampson?

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

On Nick: always interesting to see how he does when his shot doesn't fall (4 of 15, 26.6%, 0 for 4 from outside the arc). I liked that he hit 5 of 6 FTs. Otherwise, he had 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 blocks, 1 TO in 33 minutes -- stat-wise, at least, an unproductive night.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

He produced 13 pts on a night when his shot wasn't falling. I know we've come to expect a certain level of consistency from NY but i dunno how many games he can come of the bench and chuck up 20. Maybe the guys Flip chooses to start should pull THEIR own weight. Gee and Hinrich might as well have stayed on the team bus. Gee's not an NBA starter, you might as well see if NY can handle the starter's duties. I guess Kirk has to handle the guard spot opposite Gil, but i'd like to see a lil more consistency from the Coach's Kid. Recently Kirk has been no style and no substance.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

The guy plays good perimeter defense, something that apparently isn't valued that much by fanz here.

Does Flip? Seems like he goes to that perimeter zone much of the time, which imo doesnt show much faith in his perimeter defenders ability to play man. Wall (you would hope), KH, NY, Martin, Gee....all guys that I wouldnt mind seeing locked in on man D a little more

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who felt some type of way when Hilton was shoved by Juwan and Gilbert did NOTHING even though he was the closest Wizard at the time? I mean, Nick Young of all people was over there standing up for his teammate! Gil is not apart of this team. He's just on it. He needs to go. For the better of both him and this franchise.

Posted by: CBell29 | November 30, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

I'd luv to read the headlines about "gun toting wizards guard involved in Melee in Miami, Arenas suspended indefinitely." Gil did the right thing, NY did the right thing. Howard and Armstrong were the bammas in this situation. Hilton, for the foul and Juwan for the shove from behind. BTW Lebron,Wade,nor Bosh kicked up any dust either. Scrubs like Anthony, Howard and Armstrong can fight. NBA superstars gotta protect their hands and fingers.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 30, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Yang shot 4 for 15 and Hinrcih 2 for , 27% combined."

Good thing the Wiz don't have a Yang or Hinrcih on their rosters, huh?

Posted by: Samson151 | November 30, 2010 10:46 AM


You sure do have a nose for detail. Don't you. Just messing with you.

Posted by: spades72 | November 30, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Gee shows way too much ball when he goes up for dunks. He has to learn how to move the ball around and when to bring it down.

Posted by: spades72 | November 30, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

How can anyone justify Hinrich getting so much playing time? 36 minutes, 2 of 7 shooting and 3 asists. I don't know his average but it seems to be his line almost every game. Whatever it is, dude is totally ineffective and its time Flip sees this.

Posted by: spades72 | November 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse


Gee shows way too much ball when he goes up for dunks. He has to learn how to move the ball around and when to bring it down.

Posted by: spades72 | November 30, 2010 11:30 AM

He also has to learn he's no longer in the D-League. Maybe he was a special athlete there, but he's nothing to write home about in the NBA. He's getting STUFFED on his dunk attempts.

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"I thought Blatche played a terrible game. Sure, his point productoin was solid, but his lack of effort on the defensive end is appalling. He's a turnstile. Also, he appears averse to blocking out when rebouding,"

There seems to be a biased slant against one player or another in our criticisms of the lack of defense on this team.

Be advised, that our, the Wizards poor lack of defense as a group is a systemic problem and not an individual one.

A good team defensive approach and philosophy is sorely lacking on this Team.

If we had good individual defensive players then Flip's coaching of defense might be just fine.

But Flip doesn't have those type of players and as a result he has no clue how to mesh a good defensive strategy with these players.

It can be done, but by no one currently is doing it.

It is the same phenomenon as many calling for big man coaching.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

some positives last night:

Javale's rebounding efforts seems to be who he has become as a player. 10 last night including 5off boards to go with 10pts on 5-7 shooting in just 26mins. He's establishing himself as our starting Center, not quite there yet, but even his biggest detractors are mute at this point. Definitely a brightspot on the season.
Posted by: divi3

Yes, but he was -11. So clearly he was not effective (just messing with you based on Sunday's discussion).

Posted by: ts35 | November 30, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Gee will be just fine. I like him at the SF even moreso that Thornton. He is still a bit antsy now to show that the Team was justified in bringing him back.

Once he relaxes and settles down, I think he will be just fine.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse


to paraphrase Lamar Odom all slim can do is run and jump. He's a cool guy to have on the team, but not a starter.........in fact he should, like, never start again.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | November 30, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

There seems to be a biased slant against one player or another in our criticisms of the lack of defense on this team.

Be advised, that our, the Wizards poor lack of defense as a group is a systemic problem and not an individual one.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Didn't you spend your time on a soapbox after the Orlando game for saying that it was Kirk's fault for his defense on the last play?

Now it's a team issue when it's someone else?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"Good thing the Wiz don't have a Yang or Hinrcih on their rosters, huh?"

No they don't but someone with similar names had exactly the same stats last night. :)

Posted by: sagaliba | November 30, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

to paraphrase Lamar Odom all slim can do is run and jump. He's a cool guy to have on the team, but not a starter.........in fact he should, like, never start again.

I'm not getting why he's immediately ahead of CMartin. Cartier plays solid D and is a better shooter, plus he's been here scrapping the whole time

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Someone stated earlier about the inside playcalling for our big men. In that, they should call some plays for McGee on the inside. I think they should too.

But other than alley oops and finding him down low when his man has lost him, I don't see any evidence that they pratice anything that incorporates McGee into the set offense.

Often times the big man is an afterthought when teams run their offensive sets. Shaq and Howard, elite big men have had to complian about being left out of the offense. As Shaq usta' say "you got to feed the big dog".

Having a play or two for McGee under the basket and doing it isn't a hard thing to achieve.

But Flip would rather leave McGee's offensive game to spontaneity. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. P&Ring your Bigs doesn't appear to be in Flips repertoire to free them to the basket, though.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Didn't you spend your time on a soapbox after the Orlando game for saying that it was Kirk's fault for his defense on the last play?

Now it's a team issue when it's someone else?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 12:06 PM

The answer would be no. I did not. TS35 thought the same thing and if you had read all the posts re: this particular subject you would have seen that I was calling out the strategy of help/switch defense in which Hinrich was clearly playing to his dettriment and the teams. I stated clearly that the help/switch defense was the culprit here and not Hinrich.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm not convinced any of our guards this season have consistently looked for our bigs when they do roll. Dray was missed a few times last night, and though it's certainly no excuse, you know once that happens he'll be quick to "get his" outside of 10ft

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

to paraphrase Lamar Odom all slim can do is run and jump. He's a cool guy to have on the team, but not a starter.........in fact he should, like, never start again.

I'm not getting why he's immediately ahead of CMartin. Cartier plays solid D and is a better shooter, plus he's been here scrapping the whole time

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 12:10 PM

Good question divi3. It seems that Martin hasn't really gotten much of a chance. But, I get the impression from watching Martin that he plays more like a guard, or plays small, rather than like a forward.

Alonzo Gee plays like he has a hammer in his pocket and Martin not so much.

I could be wrong. Martin I see is listed at 6'7 and Gee 6'6, but I get the impression that Gee is bigger and tougher.

???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

You cannot allow yourself to be juked that easily, Nelson bakes Hinrich advantage Majic.

LarryInClintonMD.

That put back by Howard started with the defense of guard play on Jameer Nelson. It just happened that Kirk Hinrich was guarding Nelson, but on a last play like that, you cannot let a guard shake you as easily as Nelson did to Hinrich and now Nelson is in the paint free to do whatever he chooses.

McGee did a good jog of causing Nelson to alter his shot but it is all over then, because now your defense is out of sync. We discussed this here on the blog two nights ago.

Hinrich, everyone needed to stay with their man as long as doggedly possible. Hinrich was looking backward while trying to guard Nelson and a simple juke threw him out of the entire play now throwing the whole team into switch/help mode.

Can't play good defense that way.

LarryInClintonMD.

Nelson was Hinrich's man, not McGee, not Blatche, but Hinrich. Hinrich wasn't even screened or picked off of Nelson. But because, Nelson so easily got rid of Hinrich and he shouldn't have, Nelson's play accounted for both our biggest men on the floor to be out of position in the last few seconds of the game because of help/switch defense.

LarryInClintonMD.

Doesn't make much since, but considering how easily Nelson got past Hinrich you might be right, though that is wacky strategy.

Just all the players play some damn D' on your man. Goodness.

LarryInClintonMD.

Sure sounds like it's on Hinrich to me.

Then you come with:

I wasn't really calling out Hinrich as I was the theory of help/switch defense and how it undermines man responsibility for all. Hinrich was more of an example of that than any indictment on whether his defense was the fault at all.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 28, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Kinda doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Blatche doesn't have an excuse not to be in shape anymore. He was ready before training camp and has been going since then. I don't wanna hear the he broke his foot he missed three months anymore.

That was in June. July, August, September...he's been going since before October.

Shooting 42% as a PF isn't gonna cut it.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Shooting 42% as a PF isn't gonna cut it.

Notice Flip isnt really that critical of him anymore? AB is a made man this season, management has invested in him and the options behind him are untenable. We'd better hope he starts shooting better, because he's locked into 15+ FGAs per night.

Posted by: divi3 | November 30, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Kinda doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | November 30, 2010 12:42 PM

It makes very clear sense to me that I am saying that the Wiz was playing help/switch defense from the outset. They were not playing a man defense and that is why Hinrich played the way he did. Any other Wizard would have done the same thing that Hinrich on their man. Look for help.

It's a sorry way to play defense and Hinrich just happen to be the example that time. But, if you have been paying attention that is the way the whole team plays defense.

That is my whole point. Man up.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 30, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

I'm confused. You seem to be saying that everyone should man up and defend their own man.....and simultaneously that the team lacks team defensive principles.

Please clarify.

Posted by: ts35 | November 30, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm not getting why he's immediately ahead of CMartin. Cartier plays solid D and is a better shooter, plus he's been here scrapping the whole time

Posted by: divi3

From what I've seen of both. C-Mart is a better shooter, but Gee is a more explosive athlete. Gee is a better rebounder, and a more physical player. He's also a bit more dynamic in terms of attacking the rim, playing passing lanes etc. In each of the past two games, he's had some nice steals. Whether that translates into being a 'better' player or not remains to be seen. With Hinrich, Gee and McGee in the starting lineup, they definitely lack a bit of scoring punch from the starters. When AT and or Howard comes back, maybe Gee settles into a better role as an energy player coming off the bench until he can develop a better offensive game. That being said, I like watching the kid play.

Posted by: ts35 | November 30, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Mcgee needs build up some basketball IQ.

Posted by: bdunkadunk | November 30, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"The Wizards still just long shoot jumpers and the other team makes layups. That's why they never win."

I thought that summed things up nicely.

Posted by: harrybalz | November 30, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Sums it up. The players change but Ernie only acquires jump shooters. He acquired Yi and look at Hinrich, Arenas, and Young and Blatche they are primarily jump shooters with lo b-ball iq just like Caron and Jamison. Quentin Ross and Singelton didn't need to score points to be effective.

Posted by: bonggong | November 30, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The difference between Blatche and Jamison is that Blatche can actually be effective playing defense, he just sometimes does not do it. Each of our players has a wart somewhere. Good abilities and a wart. For most it is defense. Any playoff team needs to have defensive stops in order to enter the transition phase. Saunders should inform the team that there will be 4 game tryouts. If you are not putting in EFFORT, you will sit. That means defense, rebounding, working to get open, taking realistic shots, working the shot clock. We can not get down on a guy for missing a shot, we can get on him if he is heaving up 3's with 18 seconds on the clock, unless that is the strategy. McGee needs more help around the basket whether from Blatche or elsewhere.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | November 30, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

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