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Posted at 12:37 PM ET, 11/29/2010

Wizards could be without JaVale McGee, John Wall against Miami

By Michael Lee

JaVale McGee may have been able to mockingly wave goodbye to Philadelphia 76ers forward Elton Brand after Brand shoved him from midair last week, but McGee apparently continues to feel the reverberations from that hard fall.


Goodbye. I hope this doesn't cost me any games. (Photo by Harry E. Walker/ McClatchy Tribune)

McGee didn't participate in the Wizards morning walkthrough and remains questionable for the game against the Miami Heat on Monday after waking up with unbearable pain in his back and head. While the Wizards were preparing for the Heat, McGee and assistant athletic trainer Corey Bennett were visiting with a doctor.

"It's from the fall from Brand," Coach Flip Saunders said about McGee's injuries. "His back's been bothering him. Every now and then, it kind of kicks up. It was sore here the last few days and this morning, when he got in, he was in excruciating pain, with back and his head and he sort of had the sweats. We kept him back."

McGee grabbed a career-high 18 rebounds in the Wizards' 116-114 overtime win against the 76ers. With 3 minutes, 32 seconds left in regulation, Brand attempted to prevent McGee's dunk attempt by pushing McGee with both hands. Brand was later suspended for one game.

McGee has had a total of 17 in the past two loss against Atlanta and Orlando, but his string of five consecutive games with at least 10 rebounds ended against the Magic, who limited him to just seven.

Hilton Armstrong would start if McGee is unable play, but the Wizards are also uncertain about John Wall, who showed up but didn't participate in the morning walkthrough because of a right knee bruise. Wall missed the WIzards' previous game against Orlando, and previously missed four games with a sprained left foot.

With the Wizards set to face some quality opponents in the next few games, Saunders was disappointed that the team is dealing with so many injuries. Al Thornton (sprained left ankle) and Yi Jianlian (right knee tendinitis) are also sidelined.

"Being as young as we are and undermanned...going into the game against Orlando, we had three guys from our top six that didn't play. John was a starter, Al was a starter, Yi was our first guy off the bench. None of those three played. Could be in the same situation tonight and maybe even JaVale," Saunders. "We've just got to play hard. We played really hard and Orlando and we should've won. We've got a tough schedule. We've got good teams. Five of our next six games are on the road. And a lot of playoff teams. We've got a rough part of our schedule. We'd like to be healthier but we're not."

By Michael Lee  | November 29, 2010; 12:37 PM ET
Categories:  JaVale McGee, John Wall  
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i wonder why gil went to chicago..it was to get away from the medical staff..why are all our players stay hurt..from jarvis hayes to the new people...whats really going on..they couldnt get gil right and wall is still down over a foot bruise?whats up with YI..

Posted by: MrNoOne | November 29, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Tough it out and get out there BIg Fella!

"Dan Le Batard of the Miami Herald writes that Wade isn't holding up his end of the bargain, comparing his poor shooting performances in Heat losses to ... Ricky Davis."

That's because D Wade is an overrated volumn shooter who will have more difficulty adjusting to playing with Lebron than Gil will have adjusting to playing with J Wall.

Posted by: gmac78

Posted by: gmac78 | November 29, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

There is always something negative going on with this bullsh-- team. Only 15 games in and one excuse after another. Young guys like this should not be injured and so slow to recover as this team is. And you can't believe hardly anything that the official Wizard press releases put out. Stop all this pretentious nonsense and get some real players who aren't sissies and can win some games. Where is their pride? If this team can't at least play .500 ball, then what good are they?

Posted by: dandyhuffman | November 29, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

There is always something negative going on with this bullsh-- team. Only 15 games in and one excuse after another. Young guys like this should not be injured and so slow to recover as this team is. And you can't believe hardly anything that the official Wizard press releases put out. Stop all this pretentious nonsense and get some real players who aren't sissies and can win some games. Where is their pride? If this team can't at least play .500 ball, then what good are they?

Posted by: dandyhuffman

Seriously! Why don't they start signing some good players already like Kobe or Rondo or Dwight Howard? I mean, how long is a rebuild of a franchise supposed to take???

And why can't the young guys just heal right up after their knee is turned inside out, like Yi's was? And don't tell me that John Wall is hurt because he keeps getting slammed to the ground and is still getting used to the NBA. I don't believe that crap for a second! I know for a fact that the Wizards medical staff is responsible for all our problems, and they do it on purpose.

And why can't they trade Gilbert for someone like Kevin Durant? I mean, come on!! Get rid of Ernie and Flip and Gil and everyone and lets start over (again), but this time with proven all-stars at every position who never get hurt and lets get Phil Jackson to coach. Is it really so hard? Why is it taking so long??? It's been 15 whole games already!!!

Posted by: japhy_ryder | November 29, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Dan Le Batard of the Miami Herald writes that Wade isn't holding up his end of the bargain, comparing his poor shooting performances in Heat losses to ... Ricky Davis.

That's because D Wade is an overrated volumn shooter who will have more difficulty adjusting to playing with Lebron than Gil will have adjusting to playing with J Wall.

Posted by: gmac78
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Here's another gem you might enjoy from the same idiot:

Q: What can Heat do in next 5 weeks to get back on track and head into 2011 "fixed"?
Answered 11/29/10 13:26:10 by Dan Le Batard
A: get healthy? install offense that has lebron and wade working together on pick and roll on same side of court? play a lot of bad teams?......that's rule one of the players-only meeting: have it before a wizards game at home.....that way it looks like it worked


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/qna/forum/live_qa_with_dan_le_batard/index.html#ixzz16hKVF2B3

Posted by: Miks | November 29, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

. Is it really so hard? Why is it taking so long??? It's been 15 whole games already!!!

Posted by: japhy_ryder | November 29, 2010 1:46 PM |

Right on!
Flip should also check here on this blog and get some ideas how to play his guys.

And Ernie could also use the expertise here to make a trade for a superstar.

Simple ain't it?

Posted by: samhri | November 29, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

if there is 1 guy that has owned us over the years, its Wade but if there is one guy who has guarded him better then anyone in the league, its Hinrich. Thats why I dont see Flip benching him in this game. I dont see us going small because he wont want any of them on Lebron. Therfore Wall sits or comes off the bench is my guess.

I also see Gil getting to guard the 1 alot this game which he doesnt get to do that much of while also being guarded by Wade so Im very interested in seeing how Gil performs in this one. They start a good but soft Bosh and an old slow Big Z. That means Gil should attack off the pick & roll like he did alot last game. If Gil did that 2 games in a row, made some layups, and got to the line, then that would bode very well for our future. It would be like the final step in his confidence, besides hitting a game winner again.

McGee would be great going against big slow Z but greater in this game is Gil. Last year I wouldnt think Gil would do anything hardly in a game like this in Flip’s system but I think Flip has changed that pick & roll Offense. Its much easier to attack off it then it was last year and I think if Gil is mentally right and attacks then he will own Z or any of there bigs off of it and pick that defense apart on scores, FT’s, or assist. NY also guarded Wade well last year so maybe he can do it when Kirk isnt

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 29, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear about JaVale. I hope its nothing serious. I guess we'll get to see more of Seraphin.

Posted by: bozomoeman | November 29, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Washington and miami are one similarity but washington does not have any pressure since the decleration is rebuilding.
Washington start the season with 4 bench players and a damaged /suspended old star.They collect several young players with the 1st all over pick.Miami start with 4 old members and collected several talents including the two time MVP.too much pressure on miami.From the way i see it now miami will win all sub 500 teams and some home games until the end of december.They need a PG that could balance the game among the 3 stars and help them in taking the pressure.LJ is a dude that has a hard time to handle pressure and ball together, that is why he lost to boston and orlando.wade's talent is
a suspect now.The soft big will shoot aganst weak team but not against boston or orlando. In 2010-11 miami will be in playoff with 48 wins and probably kicked out in the second round.
2011-12 will be in the eastern confrence final to loss to orlando.
2012-13 they will loss to john wall and complete the 7 shampionship they promised.

Posted by: gtefferra | November 29, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I fear that John Wall will need to bear the nickname "Oden," because he seems to be as injury-prone as the big fella in Portland. He's already missed 1/3 of the games and is likely out for tonight because of a "bruised" knee. At this rate, he'll challenge Oden for games missed. Toughen up. This is the NBA, not college.

Posted by: posterwatch | November 29, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

posterwatch;

thats probably a little pre-mature. With the Wizards most likely not going to make any noise in the conference, there is no since in driving such an investment as John Wall into the ground. The great part about it is that in the games he has played, he has performed pretty well and has had to have gained learning experience from playing. Not like many of our other "youngs" that if they play at all, do not benefit much from.
IMO, you have to keep in mind this is a 20yo ( I think) one year removed from high school. He has a slender build. He's obviously going to have to grow into his adult body. For injuries to the joints such as knees and ankles, no need to force him to play.

Javale on the other hand I made a joke earlier suggesting he man up and go out there. He fell on his backside and is probably just sore on top of beeing a pretty big fella. Of course if the guy seriously cant go, don't force him.

Posted by: gmac78 | November 29, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Look out japhy_ryder.

You post like a man with strong convictions and know a thing a two about what you post.

But beware, you might get called some names when you post that way. Some here don't like fine soliloguy and unorthodox comparisons that make great sense.

You might get called a drunk at your own family reunion, irregardless if your reunions are no alcohol allowed like my reunions are.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 29, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The brain trust of this team is terrified of the "Arenas Effect" where Wall is concerned, a bruised knee? is there any swelling? did anyone bother to check the flexibilty of the knee,kneecap,ligament,tendon. Javale should have had his back checked the very next day after the Brand incident. The severity of Javale's injury will detirmine the rehab, a back injury can be very tricky especially with 7 footers.Whirlpool or heat depending on what Javale is complaining about should have been administered along with a mild pain killer if needed.

Posted by: dargregmag | November 29, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I fear that John Wall will need to bear the nickname "Oden," because he seems to be as injury-prone as the big fella in Portland. He's already missed 1/3 of the games and is likely out for tonight because of a "bruised" knee. At this rate, he'll challenge Oden for games missed. Toughen up. This is the NBA, not college.

Posted by: posterwatch | November 29, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Yep... A guy who missed 100% of his first season and is out for all of his 2nd is comparable to a guy who has missed 5 games.

Seriously, i like to dabble in hyperbole myself, but this is too much.

Posted by: Blurred | November 29, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: japhy_ryder

Nailed it.

Posted by: Miks | November 29, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Seriously! Why don't they start signing some good players already like Kobe or Rondo or Dwight Howard? I mean, how long is a rebuild of a franchise supposed to take???"

LOL thanks for the laugh. I'm guessing some folks took it seriously...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 29, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Re post by japhy_ryder

"LOL thanks for the laugh. I'm guessing some folks took it seriously..."

Posted by: Samson151

Oh come on, nobody's that dumb (I hope)! It was a great post though . . .

Posted by: Miks | November 29, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Look out japhy_ryder.

You post like a man with strong convictions and know a thing a two about what you post.

But beware, you might get called some names when you post that way. Some here don't like fine soliloguy and unorthodox comparisons that make great sense.

You might get called a drunk at your own family reunion, irregardless if your reunions are no alcohol allowed like my reunions are.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 29, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

First off, there is no word "irregardless" and if there were, it would mean the opposite of what you want it to mean here.

More importantly, though, is that you seem to know a little about what you are talking about; ie: making long ramling, inane remarks - nay, rants - about stuff that is just not even remotely grounded in reality.

Go Nick! 31 pts, 2 steals, 3 rebounds a block and yes, Nick will even have an assist tonigh! 12 more games like this and I will be a complete Nick Young believer and fan.

Posted by: Blurred | November 29, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

First off, there is no word "irregardless" and if there were, it would mean the opposite of what you want it to mean here.

More importantly, though, is that you seem to know a little about what you are talking about; ie: making long ramling, inane remarks - nay, rants - about stuff that is just not even remotely grounded in reality.
Posted by: Blurred | November 29, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse
Since you found the need to correct Larry in Clinton for his grammar, suppose you should look at your spelling of the word rambling. Cheap shot!!
Is it any wonder the article today is about the Heat not appreciating their coach. The patients are running the asylum.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | November 29, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

@Blurred,

There you go assuming. I know very well that the word is reguardless. You knitalls on this blog are somethingelse at times.

And knitalls is my own word for know it alls. And secondly irreguardless is used by many people depending on where you are from though it isn't in the dictionary.

Some stuffit blurred and that is probably not a word either.

Geez.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 29, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

And the most appalling thing of all Blurred about what you posted, since you are so smart, the word "rant" is slang for the word soliloguy.

Look up what soliloguy really means and you might realize that ranting is a time tested tradition to acheive a point.

What you thought was ramblings of an old fool may not be atall, but a way to get your and others attention.

Try it, you might like it.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 29, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Look up what soliloguy really means and you might realize that ranting is a time tested tradition to acheive a point.

soliloguy: a guy who makes long, rambling confused speeches to himself.

Posted by: midlevex_ | November 29, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Im guessing McGee is probably out also unless he's really needed. I wouldnt be shocked if Gil goes off but dont just assume it because of Arroyo. Remember that we will start Kirk beside Gil which means that I could see Arroyo guarding him alot while Wade guards Gil, espically if Gil starts to get hot. Thats why it would probably be great to actually start NY at the 2 tonight with Kirk off the bench but Flip will never do that. With Arroyo having to guard either NY or Gil, it would be great for us

Posted by: dlts2041 | November 29, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Look up what soliloguy really means and you might realize that ranting is a time tested tradition to acheive a point.

soliloguy: a guy who makes long, rambling confused speeches to himself.

Posted by: midlevex_ | November 29, 2010 5:53 PM

Yup, thats about what a blog site is. But lets trot out what soliloguy really means and not what you have just made up.

A soliloquy is a device often used in drama where by a character relates his or her thoughts and feelings to him/herself and to the audience without addressing any of the other characters.[1] Soliloquy is distinct from monologue and aside.

Soliloquies are similar yet distinct to a monologue; an exclusive view of a character's dramatized action within a play-world, typically addressing another character or group of characters.

Soliloquies were frequently used in poetic dramas; dramas in prose tend to use a more realistic speaking style and rarely if ever feature them. The plays of William Shakespeare feature many soliloquies. The "To be or not to be" speech in Hamlet is perhaps the most famous one in the English language. Macbeth's "Tomorrow and tomorrow" speech and Juliet's "O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" are other famous examples of Shakespearean soliloquies (although Juliet's speech is overheard by Romeo).

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | November 29, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Have to wonder about quality of medical and training staff and rushing unhealed players back? Wiz should consider a martial arts regimen in the off season for proper stretching, breathing and self defense techniques. Also a bunch of players need to "pump-up" and get thicker. This is one of the most fragile teams in the NBA.

Posted by: trnasell | November 29, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Larry,
Nice work but I was defining soliloguy not soliloquy.

Posted by: midlevex_ | November 29, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

lol man yall bickering like females on here. this is a Wizards page...
anyway, i agree with the guy earlier, this team does seem to be pretty frail. not that my opinion will matter lol but maybe those dudes should try yoga, i hear a lot of teams are starting to use it

On another note, i can't wait to see what move Grunfield pulls off to give this team some kind of direction. Right now this team just kind of feels like a bunch of players playing pick-up. So i can live through these pitiful losses hoping Grunfield has something up his sleeves...

Posted by: tsbarbee2005 | November 30, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

lol man yall bickering like females on here. this is a Wizards page...
Well then, Leary and I will tell old tales about the Wizards
...and hear poor rogues
Talk of court news; and we'll talk with them too,
Who loses and who wins; who's in, who's out;
And take upon 's the mystery of things,

Posted by: midlevex_ | November 30, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

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