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Posted at 4:35 PM ET, 12/28/2010

Cartier Martin "being patient" with more reduced role

By Michael Lee

The schedule maker provided Cartier Martin with a nice present this holiday season, with a game scheduled in his hometown of Houston two days after Christmas. While the game wasn't exactly on the holiday, Martin shrugged and said it was "close enough. You get the same kind of feel, get to see family, friends. Felt good."


I'll be ready, whenever, wherever you need me. (Photo by Toni L. Sandys/Washington Post)

Martin got tickets for about 20 people to watch the Wizards lose 100-93, and his mother brought him his favorite cornbread dressing. But what Martin didn't receive was playing time, as he got his third consecutive DNP-Coach's Decision. Martin has received sporadic playing time all season, but with Josh Howard returning from his torn ACL injury and Rashard Lewis joining the team in the Gilbert Arenas trade.

Martin has appeared in 21 games, and leads the Wizards (7-22) in three-point field goal percentage (43.8), but someone had to get pushed further on the depth chart with a once weak area on the team now serving as a strength. Even Al Thornton has seen a reduction in playing time, receiving just eight minutes against the Rockets.

"I'm just being patient with whatever the team wants me to do. Whatever my role is, I'm willing to do whatever they ask me to do, whether it's the one or the five," Martin said. "I just want to fit in. I don't really label myself at a certain position, I'll play wherever coach needs me."

Although Lewis's arrival has made it harder for him to get an opportunity to play, Martin said he was pleased to have another Houston native on the roster. "That's big. We got a little H-Town connection going on, me and Rashard. It's good to have a guy on the team that you can relate. We from the same area, so we know some of the same things. That's big more me, I think it's good for the team."

Hilton Armstrong missed the game against Houston with a mild right foot sprain suffered the day before in San Antonio. After Monday's loss, Armstrong sat in the locker room with his right foot resting in a bucket of ice. He still considers his comeback to be a day-to-day situation. "It feels better. I can't say exactly when," Armstrong said, when asked when he would return. "It's just sore. A lot of pain at the top of my foot. Once that calms down, I'll be back."

Armstrong was disappointed that he was unable to play the day after starting against the Spurs in place of the suspended JaVale McGee, helping limit Tim Duncan to just five points and grabbing a career-high 13 rebounds. "I'd like to be able to build on that, see where I can go from that and try to help out the team as much as possible," he said. "I definitely wanted to play" against the Rockets.

By Michael Lee  | December 28, 2010; 4:35 PM ET
Categories:  Cartier Martin, Hilton Armstrong  
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Up 10pts with 8mins left, Flip sits Javale for good and Rockets end game on 25-9 run. Really hope he didnt sit him because of that poor goaltend. Yes, it was a bad play but so what? Javale was changing shots on virtually every possession en route to Wiz building a lead, the moment he came out the Rockets started scoring at will. Puzzles me as to how Flip didnt see Mcgee as key to our defense tonight

Posted by: divi3 | December 27, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Divi3 - My thoughts exactly. This is one more road game Flip has lost because he did not make the right rotation calls. The same thing happened in the Detroit game a month ago.

Flip just seems like he does not have a "feel" for what to do when there are close games. I know it falls on the players, but sometimes you have to put the "right" players in.

I did not mind the three guard line up this time, because NY can also be considered a "3" in some circles. The problem I had was Flip playing R. Lewis without getting McGee in at all.

AB was not playing well and I would have preferred to have J. Howard in for him. Hopefully Flip will finally decide this is not for him and take a buyout. I say let Sam "I am" take the reins and learn on the fly with a new team.

Posted by: BulletsFever | December 28, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Here's a double negative for you all: "Not unpredictable"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Steve-Francis-has-been-cut-from-his-Chinese-team?urn=nba-300842

Once a bum, always a bum.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 28, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Cartier Martin is still on the team?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 28, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Cartier Martin is still on the team?
Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Yep, and I'm afraid his fate might mirror what happened earlier to Lester Hudson.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

It is sad the wiz did not pull a win last night.We can give several reasons but not the benching of JM.He allways jump to block shoots.He need to stay with his man and keep his position.Scola who did not score on Blache was 3 for 3 in the 4th quarter while he was garded by him and RL.Those 3 shoots were part of the 11 to 4 run for houston to get on the lead if you add the mistake it was appropriate to replace him.Not to give too much creadit,as soon as Blache was in the game scola was 0 for 2 but the team lost the game due to conditining problem.I think back to back game is going to be a permanent problem for this team.They could not run for defense , the back to back three pointers and the bad foul by KH put the wiz in the hole.Both of the 3 pointers were following a turnover by blache. Flip need to learn time managment , he should allways plan to keep JH at the end, he is so effective in his defense.

Posted by: gtefferra | December 28, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

The bottom 5 in the NBA, according to SI.com:

"#26 - NJ: Troy Murphy plummeted from double-double machine to trade bargaining chip this season... as the Nets dangle his ample skills and $12 million expiring contract in front of potential suitors. New Jersey parted with solid rotation player Courtney Lee to obtain Murphy in a four-team deal over the summer, and the 6-11 forward has averaged a double-double five of his previous nine years in the league, including the last two with the Pacers. He's also a career 39 percent shooter from three-point range, and the Nets are currently 24th in three-point accuracy."

"# 27 Toronto Raptors (10-20)
The Raptors need more players like Amir Johnson, who leads in blocks (1.1), steals (0.8) and rebounds (5.8)... despite averaging just 23 minutes. Those paltry numbers also reveal how few opportunities Toronto creates on defense -- it's 18th in steals and 29th in blocks."

"# 28 Washington Wizards(7-22)
The silver lining in the Christmas Eve skirmish between Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee is that the two immature youngsters didn't drag anyone else into the morass. At the same time...they welcomed back John Wall from a five-game absence because of a knee injury. Wall shot 2-of-9 off the bench in the defeat, then made 2-of-7 in a reserve role Monday (he also went 9-of-13 at the free-throw line in 27 minutes) as the Wizards lost at Houston..."

"# 29 Cleveland Cavaliers (8-22)
[The] problems are pretty fundamental. Opponents have scored 111 more field goals on 14 fewer shots in 30 games. The Cavs are allowing an NBA-worst 41.1 percent from the three-point line, which is how the lowly Timberwolves have beaten them twice, including on Sunday, when Minnesota made a dozen threes and won by a point in a rare road victory. Coach Byron Scott is playing his veterans...but only Anderson Varejao is shooting better than 44 percent among the starters over the last 10 games, although Mo Williams does have a five-game streak of double-digit assists."

"#30 Sacramento
Yes, the Kings are blowing close games at an alarming rate -- be it the spectacular pratfall that resulted in a blown 16-point lead with nine minutes left against Golden State last Wednesday, or Tyreke Evans' rimmed-out free throw (after he'd made the first two of three) with two seconds remaining that enabled the Clippers to hang on for a one-point win Monday. But an optimist would rebut that at least the Kings are keeping it close, and that Evans, who has been mired in a sophomore slump, had a season-high 32 points Monday. After the game, Evans said he was considering surgery on his ailing left foot, a procedure that would sideline him for three to four months. At that point, the optimist shut up."

Posted by: Samson151 | December 28, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Cartier, why is it that both you and Rashard being from Houston a good thing for the team?

Posted by: Utilityman1 | December 28, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Who is Cartier Martain?When did he join the team?Mascot?Who???

Posted by: joe12341 | December 28, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Its funny-i have never heard flip accept any responsibility for any of these losses. It us what irritated the Pistons players. Starting last night it is time to put up or get outta here. They have their team now. Let's see what he does in the next 20 games.

Posted by: ptp09 | December 28, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

What kind of coach brings in a d league player-Gee- and starts him for 5 straight games and then cuts him a few games later. Ridiculous!

Posted by: ptp09 | December 28, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

It looks like even Melodious lost faith in Ernie.
Now, if we can get Kalo and Samson to do the same, this blog will be much more enjoyable.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | December 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Must be a slow news night....Cartier Martin? c'mon.....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 28, 2010 10:02 PM | Report abuse

"It looks like even Melodious lost faith in Ernie.
Now, if we can get Kalo and Samson to do the same, this blog will be much more enjoyable.

Posted by: Utilityman1 | December 28, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse "

I have been calling for Grunfeld's dismissal for the past 2-3 seasons now, just like I called it that Gilby wasn't going to do anything here. With Grunfeld, he's taking advantage of Leonsis ignorance of the NBA. Who is advising Leonsis? What you see is more of the same...both with the Caps and now with Les BouleS.

Teflon Grunfeld seems to be immune from criticism with all the things going wrong with the franchise during his watch.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 28, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

OK - I guess I will have to address these one at a time:

All from lilhollywood -
1 - No one has ever brought up the possibility that in NY's past stints of playing time, maybe he passed players the ball but the missed their shots, thus accounting for his meager assist avgs over the years.

Actually, the issue was that Nick was not passing the ball. No one contested that in all of my posts questioning Nick. All they did was question whether he should, as a SG, pass the ball. Since Kirk played the vast majority of his minutes last night at SG, then he should get the same "pass" on passing that Nick did.

However...in fairness to, well, me, I submit the following quote from me posted here at 1:15 today:
"Funny thing is, I actually found Nick making some good passes to set up other players. Same with Kirk. But when the guys you are setting up are missing 60% of their shots, it can make it harder to get an assist."

So you see, I actually did exactly what you said no one had done. Oh - and I actually watched the game and not just the stat line, so I know that last night, esp in the 4th quarter, both Nick and Kirk made passes...they were just to guys who missed their shots (Lewis) or got called for a charge (young) or dribbled out of bounds (Blatche)

2) John Wall stepped off the bench and dropped 6 dimes, josh howard even gave us 2 off the bench. Kirk could've been better last night IMHO.

Yes, Kirk could have been better, as could have every player on the team except Booker who made the best of his 2 minutes on the floor.

More to the point, however, is that John Wall played almost 30 minutes at PG as opposed to the 15 ish that Kirk played. I wonder, how many of Walls assists were to Kirk?

3) The only guy who shot more than Kirk last night was Lewis annd he played 5 more mins than Hinrich.

And shot at an amazing 37.5% compared to Kirk's 46.6%. Thank you very much, but I'd like the hot hand to shoot rather than the cold shoulder.

4)Check the stats, Kirk was only looking for Kirk last night.

Watch the game and see how often he actually passed the ball. Also, see how many of his made shots came off a 1-on-1 dribble as opposed to off a pass or a screen.

5)but when a guy is avging 9 assts per game against teams like the Lakers and Heat it kinda sticks out that he didn't log one dime against houston.

Agreed it does stick out...of course it also sticks out that he played up to 42 mpg as the PG in those games as opposed to the 15 ish minutes he played at PG last night. Still, it is weird, just not the reason for our defeat.

6) With the exception of Lewis and McGee, all the starters were close to 50%.

OK, where to start with this one. What you are saying is that with the exception of half of the starters that Kirk could have passed to (he can't pass to himself), the starters shot well. So half the guys shot well and half of them didn't.

It also doesn't address when they made their shots (not in the 4th quarter)


Posted by: Blurred | December 28, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

comment cont'd:

6) With the exception of Lewis and McGee, all the starters were close to 50%.

It also doesn't have anything to do with who was on the court for all of the time Kirk was playing. to wit: Wall shot 28%; Howard shot 38%. Both guys played well over 20 minutes.

And, it says nothing about the 6 TO's Blatche had.

7) Maybe a lil more effort by the pg to get the ball to guys mighta changed their fortunes.

I think the PG did make that effort. Hence, he got 6 asst. Or did you mean Kirk who played almost all of his 4th quarter minutes at SG?

Of course, not passing the ball out of bounds, making stops and actually hitting better than 40% of your shots (or more like 30% in the 4th quarter) could have done wonders, too.


In summation:

Kirk could have played better. It is also strange that he didn't make a single asst.

However, if I were pointing out reasons for the loss, his lack of assists would probably not make the top ten.

And, you can't talk about how he is only an average player and then point to his 9 apg against high quality opponents.

This team is not good. Kirk is a fine player..one of the better players we have.

He is not often ging to be the sole reason we win games nor the sole reason we lose them.

Speaking of reason...I am assuming this is a course you neglected to take or at least study for?

Posted by: Blurred | December 28, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

i think they should keep McGee in the game all the time, even though god knows he sucks. Maybe he'll develop and if he doesn't at least they'll know he's useless and make a new plan. There's no point in playing Armstrong.

Young seems to be fading fast the last few games. I thought he had found himself, but now it seems that it's the same old Young.


Posted by: stevie2 | December 28, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's a look at those coaches most likely to deal with job security issues:

Flip Saunders, Wizards
When he arrived two years ago, the Wizards were built to win. Then, stuff happened, and now the Wiz are in total rebuilding mode. Does that mean Saunders is now a poor fit? Sure looks that way at the moment. This season was supposed to be one where the Wizards would show growth and maybe challenge for one of the final playoff spots in a relatively weak conference. Instead, they're fighting each other outside of nightclubs and sweeping the basement of the East. It hasn't helped that John Wall has missed a handful of games. Saunders, to his credit, is giving Nick Young a chance. But Saunders isn't getting through to oddball Andray Blatche, who signed a long-term deal before the season, while JaVale McGee, Blatche's sparring partner, still looks raw after a promising summer.

Shaun Powell is a veteran NBA writer and columnist.


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 28, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

This season was supposed to be one where the Wizards would show growth and maybe challenge for one of the final playoff spots in a relatively weak conference.

But Saunders isn't getting through to oddball Andray Blatche?

I emailed Shaun,

Dear Mr. Powell,

I know you're a veteran NBA writer and columnist but don't you know it's not the coaches job to teach, motivate and/or get through to the players on his team?

It's the players responsibility to do this on their own and they should have told Ernie they weren't capable of becoming a good player without any help from the organization.

Regards,

bulletsfan78

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 28, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coach

b : one who instructs or trains ; especially : one who instructs players in the fundamentals of a competitive sport and directs team strategy

Really,

one who instructs players in the fundamentals of a competitive sport and directs team strategy

Who would have thought that was the job of being a coach...

I thought from listening to Flip it would be...

b: The person who blames his players for the teams losses

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 28, 2010 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind mind Flip Flop's inability to coach up the players, but he's essentially lost control of the team and based on that, it seems like their respect too. How many hissy fits has Flop thrown already this season and how many times has he got on TV to say the team was not prepared to practice or play? EJ was not Grunfeld's choice as coach, but Flop was.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 28, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

We may see Alonzo Gee again this season.

He has landed on his feet, with the Cavs.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/12/roster_gets_another_leaper_in.html

Best of luck to Alonzo.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 28, 2010 11:20 PM | Report abuse

"With Grunfeld, he's taking advantage of Leonsis ignorance of the NBA. Who is advising Leonsis? What you see is more of the same...both with the Caps and now with Les BouleS." posted by DC_MAN88

LOL either that, or Grunfeld and Leonsis know more about their business than you.

Could that be possible?

Not just possible...

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:07 AM | Report abuse

"Its funny-i have never heard flip accept any responsibility for any of these losses. It us what irritated the Pistons players."
Posted by: ptp09

You realize the Pistons won 64, 53, and 59 games in his 3 years in Detroit, right? Which losses did you want him to take the blame for?

Here's a guy who arrived in Washington with a career NBA record of 587-396. And in the CBA with kids, he went 253-147.

Not exactly a first-year head coach.

And yet we think it's because he's not getting the most out of his players.

Oh well -- that's why we need the LAS.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

"Shaun Powell is a veteran NBA writer and columnist. Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Yes -- in New York, formerly for Long Island's Newsday. You know how closely those NY writers follow DC sports.

Any columnist who thinks the Wiz were supposed to contend for a playoff spot this season was looking at the roster from '05.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:17 AM | Report abuse

BTW just a reminder that Saunders' last season in Detroit, the team won 59 games. He was fired for failing to win the Eastern Conference finals.

Since Saunders left, the Pistons have gone 76 and 119.

They may have done the guy a favor -- if he hadn't walked into the Washington job.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Sort of piggy backing on what Blurred posted, but taking it a step further.

For all but one play of John Wall's 27 minutes, Wall was the primary ball handler. Beyond that, during that time, Kirk rarely touched the ball, except to take a shot set up by Wall.

For the time KH was on the floor, I charted 48 times where he operated as a primary ball handler. Here's how he ended up with 0 assists.

1) The offense. 18 times (including the first three plays of the game), KH brought the ball up and passed off to someone else (mainly Lewis) who held the ball, usually to make an entry pass into the post. 4 of RL's 6 assists came off of these sets.

2) Shots. 10 of KH's shots came off of good P&Rs or broken plays when he drove to the hoop. He also had three instances of creating fouls. One off of a drive, one in the open court pushing the ball on the break and one off of the nice pump fake late in the game on Lowry. (The rest of his shot attempts came off of passes to him, primarily from Wall)

3) Normal flow. The were 9 instances when KH initiated the offense, which either resulted in someone making another pass, working the ball around the floor, or a turnover (like AB dropping the ball out of bounds, twice).

4) So that leaves 8 instances of KH acting as the primary ball handler unaccounted for. What happened on those instances? Those would be the 8 times Kirk passes resulted in direct shots (6 to Young, 2 to AB)....all of which were missed. 5 out of the 8 were good looks in rhythm. Two were point-blank shots at the rim, but contested, and one was an aborted back-door screen for a lob to Young.

So take that for what it's worth. 8 passes for shots may not seem like a lot, but it is worth noting that all 8 were missed. If they had hit on those at the rate that they shot the rest of the game, Kirk would have had three dimes and we wouldn't likely be having this conversation. And it's worth noting again that for the entirety of the time Wall was one the floor, a) Wall was the initiator and b) KH rarely touched the ball, except as a shooter. Meaning the KH was functioning as the PG for only about half of his time on the floor. It's also worth noting that of KH's drives and shots, the overwhelming majority of them were quality shots.

Since another criticism was that KH didn't do much to set up teammates in the 4th when they started to slip, I also mention that of KH's 48 instances of handling the rock, 32 came in the first half. In the 4th quarter (he came back in at @ the 8:21 mark) he handled the ball 4 times. Two were initiating the offense, then Wall came back in @ 7:11. A #3 was bringing the ball up the court and just passing it off to NY to dump the ball into AB in the 'post'. #4 was the pump-fake to draw the foul on Lowry. He also had two shots set-up by Wall (1 for 2). So in 8+ minutes of floor time he handled the ball 6 times. And Kirk was the 'PG' for roughly one minute of the 4th quarter.

Posted by: ts35 | December 29, 2010 12:39 AM | Report abuse

I see the Spurs walloped the Lakers at home tonight. Why don't they fire Phil Jackson? The guy has clearly lost the team.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

"Sort of piggy backing on what Blurred posted, but taking it a step further. posted by ts35"

An extremely detailed analysis, and one that helped me understand an apparent anomaly in a game I didn't get to see. Appreciate it.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Flip

CBA record 253-147
NBA record 587-396
Wiz record 33-78 and that was with AJ,CB,BTH,Gil,NY,JM,AB on the roster last year.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 29, 2010 12:55 AM | Report abuse

People are still arguing about Hinrich? Geez.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 29, 2010 1:02 AM | Report abuse

"Sort of piggy backing on what Blurred posted, but taking it a step further. . . "

Posted by: Sisyphus | December 29, 2010 12:39 AM"

You do realize it's just gonna roll back down, right?

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 29, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Michael Lee,

One story idea that would probably merit 1,500 words: The performance of two former Wizards in the Chinese Basketball Association.

I see that Javaris Crittenton and Peter John Ramos are posting ungodly numbers for Zhejiang Guangsha.

This stat line is hilarious:

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Zhejiang Guangsha 123 – Shanxi 115

Javaris Crittenton had 37 on 11-17 from the floor, P.J. Ramos had 38 and 12 and Zhang Wei, Xue Yuxiang and Lin Zhijie all hit double figures to lead Guangsha over Shanxi in Taiyuan.

Leon Rogers put in 49 points and snatched 11 rebounds for the losers, who have lost three straight.

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From a story about another one of his games:

http://chinarogect.com/2010/12/11/headline-javaris-crittenton-sighting/

"Crittenton, whose Chinese name translates to “Dayton Cretanshad,” led the Lions to a 121-100 victory over Fujian SBS XunXin, or the Sturgeons, in the league opener with 30 points, six assists and seven steals. Yes, the logo is a mean-looking sturgeon controlling a ball with its snout. Crittenton, one of two foreigners allowed per team, made everyone else on the court look silly with his speed and ball fakes, though he also had 10 turnovers. (On the translated Chinese box score, those are listed under the category “errors is guilty of.”)"

Posted by: JPRS | December 29, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

I see the Spurs walloped the Lakers at home tonight. Why don't they fire Phil Jackson? The guy has clearly lost the team.
Posted by: Samson151

And Jackson's been blaming all the recent losses totally on players too. Actually, now that I think about it, doesn't he always?

Posted by: nmik | December 29, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

"One story idea that would probably merit 1,500 words: The performance of two former Wizards in the Chinese Basketball Association."

Truly hilarious. But it does give you some idea of the gap between the two leagues.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 9:03 AM | Report abuse

"CBA record 253-147
NBA record 587-396
Wiz record 33-78 and that was with AJ,CB,BTH,Gil,NY,JM,AB on the roster last year.
Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Suggests the problem isn't the coaching, doesn't it?

Posted by: Samson151 | December 29, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

And Jackson's been blaming all the recent losses totally on players too. Actually, now that I think about it, doesn't he always?

Posted by: nmik | December 29, 2010 8:25 AM | Report abuse

11 NBA titles gives you the credibility to do such things. Rings are all it boils down to when evaluating players, why not coaches? Phil can say "do it this way" and guys will rock with it cuz his way is the way to TitleTown. Flip not so much.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | December 29, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Phil can say "do it this way" and guys will rock with it cuz his way is the way to TitleTown. Flip not so much.
Posted by: lilhollywood10

I don't follow the Lakers closely enough to know what's really happening with them, but I do know that both the coach and Kobe are complaining about what they see as guys "playing like they got two rings" and playing "distracted."

Motivation problems? Attitude problems? Jackson's teams aren't supposed to have those, are they?

Posted by: nmik | December 29, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: nmik | December 29, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

that's the problem when people pump up "rings" as the measure of the quality of an athlete. Guys feel like they're better than they really are. All of the sudden Shannon Brown,Odom,and maybe even Artest are relaxing. They're all champs now. Kobe's telling them that they gotta work harder to get back. he and Fish are the only ones on that team that know what it takes to 3peat. Maybe he's feeling the effects of his injuries, but he seems to really need his team mates to step up more than before.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | December 29, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Truly hilarious. But it does give you some idea of the gap between the two leagues.

Posted by: Samson151

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Gotta figure that the majority of Division I through D. II schools would probably find success in the Chinese Basketball Association these days too. Of course it's only a matter of time before the league is more in line with the top-tier international leagues elsewhere.

As a side note, I see that DraftExpress indicated in 2007 that Crittenton's "best case" scenario was to develop into a player similar to Steve Francis. In a way that's actually panned out, but it sure isn't much of a best case . . .

On the plus side, unlike Francis, Crit still has time to refine and develop his game. He's not even 23 yet.

Posted by: JPRS | December 29, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

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