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Posted at 10:02 AM ET, 12/18/2010

Wizards, Magic discussing trade; Arenas expected to play for Washington tonight

By Michael Lee

A league source with knowledge of the situation has confirmed that the Wizards and the Orlando Magic are discussing a potential trade with former all-star guard Gllbert Arenas but said that Arenas is expected to be in the lineup tonight for Washington when the Wizards play the Miami Heat tonight at Verizon Center.

"If it happens," the source said, "I don't think it's going to be today."

The reported discussions involving Arenas were confirmed by two sources on Saturday.

The Wizards' match-up against the Heat will be already be drawing extra attention because Verizon Center is making preparations for President Obama to attend his second Wizards game since taking office.

Obama attended a game against his hometown Chicago Bulls in February 2009, and he is expected tonight to see Miami's all-star lineup of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

By Michael Lee  | December 18, 2010; 10:02 AM ET
 
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Comments

One source says Gilbert Arenas to Orlando is done with an announcement expected tomorrow and debut on Monday. Still no word who Wizards get.

Posted by: suliman215 | December 18, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

I wrote this before seeing this but Ill put it here anyways:

IDK, Im still not sold that this just isnt a rumor. I mean there is obviously something but it may just be normal talk since some say nothing is imminent and in that case I would want him to play. I actually think we could shock the Heat. Its a back to back and theyve had some big games latley. They could easily fall asleep. Meanwhile Flip could wakeup and start a Gil-NY backcourt with Howard back. McGee is then motivated from the talk of being benched and dominates that slow Z. NY can again hold his own with Wade.

Still, it all comes back to Gil. It probably is something to this since I think he's been coasting but with the help of Kirk, he showed up in the 2nd half last game. Maybe that will carry over. We could make it interesting with Dray & Howard in and Gil playing with tempo. Again, he should kill there PG's and should destroy there bigs on the pick & roll but you just never know with Gil right now. You just dont know. If its imminent then it doesnt matter anyways. Just sit himand lets get the ball rolling.

However, he's been telling people about this since the Lakers game if the rumors are true and he's still played so he'll probably play again tonight if he's not gone. The question is will he play hard? If so then we could pull an upset. If not then we may still make it interesting with NY, Howard, Dray, & McGee playing well but its probably not enough if Gil doesnt show up and I dont mean that literally......lol

Posted by: dlts2041 | December 18, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

we do matchup well with them actually & played them tough last time while we won our other game where Obama attended. The Miami streak ends tonight, Gil plays well, Wall comes back next game to make us fully healthy, we start looking like a great team with huge upside, which then makes us decide to keep Gil.

I know, I know. Just wishful thinking from a Gil homer

Posted by: dlts2041 | December 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Got a chance to watch the Wiz after being in the South: Booker and Young are keepers; McGee may need to be DL'd (back); would not miss Arenas or Blatche; Wiz need to draft physical/athletic center with lottery pick next year.

Posted by: trnasell | December 18, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

However, if we did win tonight with him playing well and won another game with Wall then maybe you do start thinking about it because maybe Gil's trade value goes up with more success since its probably low right now but then you risk the Magic going a different route and they may be the only real suitor out there in the long run

Posted by: dlts2041 | December 18, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I hope this is just a rumor and never comes to pass. Miami isn't going to trade us Dwyane Wade, who is the only player they've got who could fill Gilbert's shoes on the Wizards. I certainly don't want Ilgauskas.

With John Wall appearing to be so injury-prone, we need Gil now. Hinrich just doesn't cut it.

Perhaps the strategy is to go for another high lottery pick next year.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | December 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Saunders has ruined any chance of winning. Also we will not get through the sweason with wall being healthy.

Posted by: bobilly1 | December 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

NO LEWIS PLEASE!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

If the Wiz take on Rashard Lewis' deal just to move Arenas, wow they truly consider Gil toxic waste.

And if Rashard suits up for us this season, I dont want to hear another word outta Flip about defense or post play.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

...i don't think any deal gets done for GA, JH, or KH without 1st round draft picks coming to the Wiz. I just hope at the end of the year, Ernie is not the one to use them...and the new GM's first move is to can Flop.

Posted by: oddjob1 | December 18, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

It can't be Lewis.

That goes against everything Ted said before the season started.

AND the Wiz are going to lose badly tonight.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

For the Wiz, Gortat and the #1 is the ticket. That does not match up salary wise, so there may be another player such as VC, at which point we have to send them either Blatche, Yi, Young, Thornton,or Howard, to make the salaries equitable. They could send a lesser salary player than Carter then they would have to add another player/players besides Gortat who makes about 10-11 million dollars, total. I am wondering why Barney Rubble has been talking so badly about McGee lately, will he be in the trade. Thats ludicrous, FLIP NEEDS TO GO WHEN THE TRADE GOES DOWN SO THIS TEAM CAN GET A NEW START.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 18, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"And if Rashard suits up for us this season, I dont want to hear another word outta Flip about defense or post play."

And I don't want to hear about it for the next 3 years (the duration of Lewis' contract)!

If we get Lewis, we would be stuck with the most over-paid player for 3 years!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Gortat would be a terrific acquisition...but I'm not sure why the Magic would part with him or who they would want from us in return.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse


There is another consideration: Howard is not expected to exercise his $19.5 million player option for the 2012-2013 season and instead test free agency. While the suitors for Howard will line up there is one that stands out: the Knicks. New York has turned the corner under Mike D'Antoni and has a standout power forward already in place in Amar'e Stoudemire. Winning a championship in the next two seasons might be the only way to keep Howard in Orlando for the long term.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/12/18/orlando.gilbert.arenas/index.html#ixzz18TrIw5xi

Posted by: nmik | December 18, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I love Gilbert, no matter what he did in the locker roon, no matter if he is on the downside of his career. He plays with personality, and makes the game fun to watch. He is fearless, creative, and does have a lot to offer Wall. If he is traded, I may be taking my ticket-buying talents to South Beach.

Posted by: DLKPhD | December 18, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Lewis would be a terrible acquisition. Four years with Gil is far better than 3 of lewis

Posted by: crs-one | December 18, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Gilbert plays with personality and creativity. He makes the game fun to watch. If he gets traded, I am taking my ticket-buying talents to South Beach.

Posted by: DLKPhD | December 18, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

"Gortat would be a terrific acquisition...but I'm not sure why the Magic would part with him or who they would want from us in return."

Seems to me Orlando is panicing a little bit, which bodes well for the Wiz.

They can have anybody other then McGee, Wall, and Young. Honestly, the Wiz aren't going to miss anybody at this point. The Wiz don't really have anybody beyond those three players.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

They can have anybody other then McGee, Wall, and Young. Honestly, the Wiz aren't going to miss anybody at this point. The Wiz don't really have anybody beyond those three players.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

No one on the roster is untouchable. For Dwight Howard, I'd give the Magic the entire roster, including the coaching staff, GM and cheerleaders.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

They can have anybody other then McGee, Wall, and Young. Honestly, the Wiz aren't going to miss anybody at this point

Obviously Wall isnt going anywhere. But Mcgee and Young don't make much $$$, not sure how they could fit in.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Obviously Wall isnt going anywhere. But Mcgee and Young don't make much $$$, not sure how they could fit in."

Well if it's multiple players, then not making much $$ would be good since Gil makes a ton.

Again, I am not expecting much. This is all about getting rid of Gil and I'm ok with that personally. They just can't take Lewis in a trade or that would be just plain stupid.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

After this year, Lewis is owed half as much money as Gil. That's a big plus, but the deal would have to be considerably sweetened by Orlando, and Gortat's deal doesn't look so good if Lewis is on the payroll.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Getting Gortat is the #1 thing for the wiz. If they can somehow get Gortat, then its a great trade.

Posted by: mrhney03 | December 18, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Suns & Turkoglu are involved.
Gil & Hedo to Magic. Gortat for sure & Lewis or VC for sure & maybe Bass.
Could end up a multiteam transaction with Portland involved too.

Posted by: VBFan | December 18, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Hedo Turkoglu Could Join Gilbert Arenas On Orlando Magic In Three-Team Deal, According To Report
Dec

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11:23a
by Tom Ziller

Read More: Rashard Lewis (F - ORL), Hedo Turkoglu (F - PHO), Gilbert Arenas (G - WAS), Marcin Gortat (C - ORL), Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards, Phoenix Suns

Hedo Turkoglu could return to the Orlando Magic as a part of a massive three-team trade that would also send Gilbert Arenas to Orlando and Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis or both out of town, according to Ken Berger of CBS Sports. It is unclear what the Washington Wizards or Phoenix Suns would receive in the trade, though Berger reports that Magic center Marcin Gortat would definitely change addresses. Due to the huge salaries of Arenas and Turkoglu, it would appear likely that the Magic would need to lose both Lewis and Carter.

SB Nation blog Orlando Pinstriped Post first reported that the Magic were interested in a Gilbert Arenas trade back on Dec. 1. The rumor cooled down until Friday, when OPP and other outlets began to report that a Magic and Wizards trade was imminent.

Turkoglu, who helped lead the Magic to the 2009 NBA Finals before signing a five-year, $52.8 million contract with the Raptors, was traded to the Suns this offseason as Toronto tried to escape from a mistake. Apparently and not surprisingly, the Suns are now in the same position of wanting to excise Turkoglu from the payroll. Hedo was successful in Orlando and played the best basketball of his career in a Magic jersey. But his performance had fallen off by 2009 (despite the deep playoff run), and Orlando demurred on a big long-term contract for a reason.

What the Suns would receive in such a trade remains unclear, though Gortat, perhaps the best back-up center in the NBA, would make perfect sense given Phoenix's defensive void at the position. A report from OPP late Friday has Rashard Lewis traded in a potential Arenas deal; the Magic have a few players with smaller contracts that could allow a deal to go through involving just Turkoglu, Arenas, Lewis and Gortat as the principal talents of note.

Posted by: suliman215 | December 18, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Grunfield=dodo

The only person i like to watch on the team there going to trade.

I swear this area sports teams STINK owners and all.

If they all leave i would not be mad,just another place to waste money.

Posted by: SOLVBACK | December 18, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

All

The best thing the wizards can do is ship Gilbert and Andray Blatche out of DC. We keep prasing Gilbert for the 17 points and 5 assist per game, but the numbers are inflated. He gets paid to be a difference maker like Kobe, Lebron and Dwade. When I look at Blatche, He plays to soft to be a featured player. He always gets dominated by smaller players and the big guys like Amare simply take him to school. If I see another one of those tired spin moves or fade away jumpers I will scream. If we can get Gortat and Bass for Gilbert and Blatche I would call it a win. The wizards are a bad rebounding team , because the following player are play on the wing. (GA,KH,AB,JI,JM,CM,AT,JY,JW,HA) . The only bangers TB and KS are deep on the bench.

Posted by: specialg7master | December 18, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Ernie is willing to sweeten the deal with the Magics by throwing in Gil's guns. Bullets are not included. Just messing around folks, just meesiing around. Arenas, is really not a bad person and it would be good for him be on a competitive team. I think, he is still a quality basketball player.

Posted by: spades72 | December 18, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

As much as I wanted Gil to resurrect his career here, I'm not blind. The guy doesn't have it any more. He's got no legs, meaning his best asset - quickness - is gone. The result: he can't get beat defenders off the dribble, can't finish, therefore, defenders are able to get in his face to contest jumpers without fear of getting beaten.

That being said, I would not pull off the trade unless Gortat is included. He instantly upgrades the starting lineup by putting McGee on the bench. I would then have Wall and Young or Carter backcourt with Heinrich coming off the bench.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | December 18, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse


When obama said this year that he would work "day and night" to fix the economy, I didn't realize that meant "except for when there is a basketball game to watch!"

Posted by: familynet | December 18, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

When obama said this year that he would work "day and night" to fix the economy, I didn't realize that meant "except for when there is a basketball game to watch!"
Posted by: familynet

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good news, familynet!

he read your really wise post and decided not to go to the game!

Posted by: MinuMang | December 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

@familynet My guess is that Obama puts in a lot more hours on the job than you ever have.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | December 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

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