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Posted at 3:50 PM ET, 12/18/2010

Wizards deal Gilbert Arenas for Rashard Lewis

By Michael Lee

The Washington Wizards have completed a deal that would send former all-star guard Gilbert Arenas to the Orlando Magic in exchange for Rashard Lewis, the Wizards confirmed, and a news conference is scheduled for 5:15 p.m. today at Verizon Center. The deal ends a more than seven-year relationship between Arenas and the Wizards, who are rebuilding around No. 1 overall pick John Wall.

Lewis confirmed the trade on his Twitter account, "Yo boy off to DC it was fun playing in Orlando had a great time trying to win it all got close but not close enough but it's been real."

Arenas had long been considered untradeable with a contract worth around $62 million over the next three seasons after this one, but his close ties with Magic general manager Otis Smith helped push this deal along. Talks between both sides intensified in recent days, with Arenas telling those close to him that something could soon happen. He told some people at Verizon Center on Tuesday that it was his last game in a Wizards uniform.

The Magic made a flurry of trades to become more competitive in the Eastern Conference, dealing Vince Carter, Mickael Pietrus and Marcin Gortat to Phoenix in exchange for Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson. The Suns will also receive a 2011 first-round pick and $3 million, according to several published reports.

Arenas made three all-star teams in his time with the Wizards, leading the franchise to only its second playoff appearance since 1982. He was averaging 17.4 points and 5.6 assists in his return after serving a 50-game suspension for bringing guns to the locker room. The anniversary of that incident is approaching.

Lewis, 31, is having one of the worst seasons of his career, averaging just 12.2 points and 4.2 rebounds, but his arrival will come at a cost savings for the Wizards. Lewis is set to earn $43 million in the next two seasons after this one, but the final season is not fully guaranteed.

Update: "This was a way to possibly free up cap room for us down the road and also get some front-court help," Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld said in a telephone interview. "Rashard can shoot, rebound, play some defense and it never hurts when you have a player like John Wall to have another perimeter shooter."

Grunfeld said he had a phone conversation with Arenas around 4 p.m. He said Arenas told him "thanks for everything."

"We had a good run," Arenas told Grunfeld. To which Grunfeld said he replied, "It was."

Grunfeld recalled that when the Wizards (re-signed) Arenas "he was one of the top-10 players in the NBA.

"With the injuries and everything that happened, things just got stale with that group," Grunfeld said, referring to Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler. "Now we're moving in a different direction."



By Michael Lee  | December 18, 2010; 3:50 PM ET
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Comments

Nice deal!

This is a business deal that nets extra funds the Wiz can use to build a winner. From SBNation:

Lewis has two years left after this year on a maximum contract signed in the summer of 2007. He is scheduled to make $21.1 million in 2011/12 and $22.7 million in 2012/13. However, Lewis' salary is only initially for $10 million in that final year and only escalates if he meets performance incentives, according to Sham Sports. Arenas has three years and $62 million left on his deal after this year. At best, the Wizards will save about $31 million over the course of the contract. At worst, they will save around $18 million.

Posted by: EdDC | December 18, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

farewell hibachi, its been a good ride

Posted by: JO2013 | December 18, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Ewww, yuck.

This doesn't help them at all.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

The future is starting much sooner now.

Posted by: EdDC | December 18, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

It's gonna be a long season

Posted by: jtrob_1 | December 18, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Arenas began with so much promise and hope. The ending is sad. I wish him well. The curse of Les Boulez strikes again. Maybe John Wall can break the curse. We can only hope.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | December 18, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This helps alot because John Wall and Gilbert Arenas play the same position. Now it is truly John Wall's team and he can develope and learn without the impedence of the "former face of the francise" using up his minutes or being a distraction.

Posted by: MeviousMan | December 18, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

What is a lewis? is that like an english leau? Sounds like money down a toilet to me. but then, maybe the bullets traded less for more. good for you Abe.

Posted by: g0tcha | December 18, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Good luck Gil!

Good trade all around. Good job eg

Posted by: DMoney28 | December 18, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Peace out Gil, I enjoyed your time here, but you needed a fresh start. I guess a nice house with a pool and grotto goes up for sale?

Posted by: jbworldwide | December 18, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Oy, gonna' be a long, long season. If they win 20 games, I'll be surprised.

If Arenas can resurrect his career, adding him and Richardson and Turkoglu puts Orlando up there with Miami. Some big time shooters there to help Howard.

If it all comes together.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Poor Wall, he is stuck with bad front court players.

I think Ernie is ready to leave the team and tries to stick one to the team as parting gift!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

So what young player loses 35mins/night so that lame ass Rashard Lewis can miss 3s? Booker?

Is tonight KH/NY vs the Heat? Should be a good one.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah i'm sure all you Grunfeld fan's(all two of you)love this but does it help the Wizards? NO and that is because as long as Dumb and Dumber are in place this franchise goes nowhere.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 18, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Another nothing trade for this team; it's always a given. They need a dominant rebounder above all else. So they go for another 4 boards a game guy in return for "the burner." Bob Ferry lives!

Posted by: wp318676 | December 18, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

If we wanted non defense playing PF, Jamison was cheaper and at least rebounded.

Lewis is a jump shooting super soft front court player. His contract, though a year shorter than Gil's is a worse deal. He's softer than Jamison
Tougher more physical just became:
Yi, Lewis, Blatche, McGee and Armstrong.
No wonder Booker and Seraphin are getting minutes.

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 18, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Poor Wall, he is stuck with bad front court players.

I think Ernie is ready to leave the team and tries to stick one to the team as parting gift!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

So what young player loses 35mins/night so that lame ass Rashard Lewis can miss 3s? Booker?

Is tonight KH/NY vs the Heat? Should be a good one.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Yeah i'm sure all you Grunfeld fan's(all two of you)love this but does it help the Wizards? NO and that is because as long as Dumb and Dumber(Flip&Ernie) are in place this franchise goes nowhere.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 18, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I dont think EG is finished yet. This deal does not make a lot of sense, since we could have probably gotten VC and gained more salary cap space next year. Maybe not? Its funny that Gilbert gave Nick his playing time when Nick was in trouble and Nick came through and is now taking his J.O.B.. Good Luck Gilbert, We appreciate your time here. It would have been nice to have acquired Gortat in some way. I think Orlando just bit the big one with these two trades. Unless Gilbert is allowed to be himself and if he still has the ability, this is a bad deal all around. I dont think Gil was dogging it, a new atmosphere may be good for him. If Gil becomes his old self, EG may have to fall on the sword. He needs to do something that guarantees he looks good with this move.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | December 18, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

So what young player loses 35mins/night so that lame ass Rashard Lewis can miss 3s? Booker?

I guess he'll take Arenas' minutes? No more 3-guard offense.

Wall and Hinrich in the backcourt, Lewis at SF, McGee/Blatche at 1/2.

So, that might take away from Thornton and/or Howard.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I dont think EG is finished yet.

I'm sure he tried for weeks to get Gortat or Bass in a possible Gil deal, but the Suns came in and got something done with a quickness.....Ernie was reduced to moving Gil for the sake of it and gaining nothing in return.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Ok,

After comtemplating this and reading some other "info" it really appears that Gil just didn't want to be here, I guess I support it(or have no other choice, lol!).

It can't get any worse, right?

Someone please tell me that....

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

More minutes for Nick!

Yes, it will be a long, discouraging season, but it was going to be that anyway. It was tough to watch Gil struggle for his shot (compared to past years, when he could beat anyone to an open spot). He is injury prone, and really has not had a great season in, what, five years? His shooting percent and defense were poor.

No, Lewis isn't a great player either at this point. He is an older guy than Gil, but he is a liability for a shorter time. He always was a terrific 3 point shooter, by the way. Maybe his game will revive a little. Maybe Gil's will too. I hope so in both cases.

Posted by: EdDC | December 18, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you idiots don't know too much...Rashard Lewis is better than any player on the wizards right now...This is not the final product for the wizards, A move had to be made, and it was a very good one by Grunfield

Posted by: babycas2000 | December 18, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

thank you Arenas wish you well please pray for the wizards

Posted by: jcrfinancial | December 18, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

thank you Arenas wish you well please pray for the wizards

Posted by: jcrfinancial | December 18, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"Ernie was reduced to moving Gil for the sake of it and gaining nothing in return."

That was my impression also.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Rashard Lewis is better than any player on the wizards right now.

He;s having the worst season of his career and hasnt been any good since he got busted for roids.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you idiots don't know too much...Rashard Lewis is better than any player on the wizards right now...

He's 31 - and an old 31 since he didn't go to college.

He's on the downside of his career and by the time the Wizards are competitive, he'll be 34 or 35.

Hell, 44 or 45.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Sad day in DC. First McNabb, then Friedgen, now Arenas.

I've been shaking my head at the Arenas haters over the last couple years. My guess is most of them became fans in recent years and have no perspective on what it was like rooting for this team in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. This is typical of frontrunning fans, they jump on the bandwagon when times are good and when times aren't as good they jump off and start attacking the team, its players, its coaches, its GM...etc.

I will always be grateful to Gilbert Arenas. Not just for what he did for this franchise but for what he did for the community. I've followed DC sports closely my entire life and there has never been a kinder, more generous human being than Gilbert. His charitable work is what this community will miss the most.

Viva Agent Zero.

Posted by: Barno1 | December 18, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope Otis gave Earnie a big jar of vaseline to go w/ the deal. Earnie can get less for something better than any other gm in the NBA.

Posted by: mikee1940 | December 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

This was NOT a good deal! We got 2 yrs older and the fact that "he's having the worst year of his career" doesn't make me any more excited! So much for going to the game tonight!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

They made the move because Gil was untouchable. You think spineless Saunders could tell him anything? 20yr old John Wall? Mr.Captain Hinrich? Gil was the Man here whether he wanted to be or not. History and contract dictated it so, they had to move him to move on....but getting Lewis is an absolute stinker of a move, fully indicative of just how badly they wanted Gil gone no matter what leonsis may have claimed

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"...but getting Lewis is an absolute stinker of a move, fully indicative of just how badly they wanted Gil gone no matter what leonsis may have claimed."

100% accurate.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"Lewis is making 3 millions more than Arenas, so how can that be a "less expensive headache?" Shorter maybe, but not by much (3 yrs vs. 4 yrs)."
Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 2:53 PM


Arenas is owed $80 mil over the next 4 years. Lewis is owed $66.5 mil over the next three years. By definition, that means Lewis's contract is $13.5 mil dollars less expensive than Arenas.

I know, I know . . . math is so hard.

Posted by: kalo_rama
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Yeah, I know you have passed elementary school math, but seems that semantics is not in your field of study, yes?

Next time, if your doctor asked you "rate it from 1 to 10, how bad is your headache?" You can show off your math skill by replying, "12," because it was 6 and it lasted for 2 hours! LOL!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

GOOD LUCK GIL! Gonna miss ya bro!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Lewis, 31, is having one of the worst seasons of his career...

Sounds like the type of player Ernie likes...maybe Ernie will give him a 3 year extension?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 18, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I hadn't realized the final year of Lewis's deal wasn't fully guaranteed. So that's an additional savings over the $14 mil (+/-) the Wiz save for ditching the final year of Arenas's contract.

Okay deal. Not terrible, not great.

Obviously the primary benefits are financial and psychological/emotional. From a bball standpoint, it's a null deal. The Wiz get another soft, jumpshooting, no defense playing "power" forward to add to their already extensive collection. Big whoop. (Andray Blatche should probably start looking over his shoulder a bit more now, however.) Lewis does little to improve the team's options on offense or defense, in and of himself.

I just wonder how much of a potential for being a locker room headache Lewis has. He can't be happy about this move, and if he starts to act out, the Wiz are in almost the same position they were in with Arenas, where their biggest paid, highest profile veteran is disgruntled and malcontent. The obvious difference is that the Wiz would be paying a smaller price for it and not have to put up with it for as long.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Apparently you idiots don't know too much...Rashard Lewis is better than any player on the wizards right now...This is not the final product for the wizards, A move had to be made, and it was a very good one by Grunfield

Posted by: babycas2000 | December 18, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

EG's son quoted to defend his dad's stupid move! Why do I feel like were starting to look like the "pre I Thomas NY Knicks"?

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

WOW...Dunn,McNabb, now Arenas. Alex Ovechkin better watch his back!

Posted by: EmmPee | December 18, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I hope John is ready to go 38 mins a night now?

Ernie see if Juan Dixon is around and sign him again.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 18, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Getting rid of Arenas is a blessing. He's continued to be a horror on defense, and now his offense has grown woefully inefficient: more fg attempts than points, night after night.
The painful part of this is all the salary space that Lewis ties up next year and to some extent the year after. A good team needs a lot of pieces. We have one in Wall, and possibly two others in Blatche and Nick. It would have been nice to be able to hope that after losing 55-60 games this season we'd be poised to add a couple of pieces next year. We'll get a high pick this summer, but we won't be in a position to sign a meaningful FA for along time.
Being a Bullets fan is a great test of patience.

Posted by: jmuravchik1 | December 18, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 4:31 PM"

Nice try. Complete and utter nonsense of course, but a nice try nonetheless. You were wrong. I know it. You know it. Everyone knows it. Accept it and move on, man.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

@ kalo

He's already posting on his twitter account about being happy to be going to DC. Where does he fit with this team? 2 or backup to Hinrich?

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

How the hell is everyone in here so dense?

Virtually every NBA pundit, Micheal Wilbon, Jon Barry, Charles Barkley, etc., have stated that the Wiz and GA need to part. For the sake of both the team and the player, let alone the development of their new face of the franchise. Wall is not learning any leadership skills from GA and they both, at their best, dominate the ball. Only Wall is better at it in the context of setting up teammates and running an offense. And, that's not getting into age, injuries, bad behavior etc...

Finding a trade partner is great news and if it's just to shed up to $31M in salary so be it. That's $31M to spend elsewhere. Again, it's not about improving the team for the short term. Another NEWSFLASH: We are rebuilding and have been told this repeatedly.

Dense!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Where does this,anyway you look at it hepls the Wizards? Why other teams with same restrictions (luxary tax, cap etc.) are so creative, but not the Bullets/Wizards ? Majic makes it to finals a yr. ago, loses one it's most imprtant players because of salary he was asking,then reaquires not only him,but JR,& GA, to not only better themselves but also to challenge the Heat & Celtics to come out of the East and possibly win it all. What do do ? Go backwards ! Nothing in this deal does anything the way it is right now gets us anywhere? It's sad , sad, sad. And to think I got suckered again into buying tickets for this trash, The saddest part is JW will be gone before we see anything that looks remotely like a turn around. Ted said we will build through draft ! OK how does this do that?

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | December 18, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

would have been nice to have gotten gortat in this deal. The center position for the wizards at this point is very troubling.

Posted by: dcfan55 | December 18, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Where does this,anyway you look at it hepls the Wizards? Why other teams with same restrictions (luxary tax, cap etc.) are so creative, but not the Bullets/Wizards ? Majic makes it to finals a yr. ago, loses one it's most imprtant players because of salary he was asking,then reaquires not only him,but JR,& GA, to not only better themselves but also to challenge the Heat & Celtics to come out of the East and possibly win it all. What do do ? Go backwards ! Nothing in this deal does anything the way it is right now gets us anywhere? It's sad , sad, sad. And to think I got suckered again into buying tickets for this trash, The saddest part is JW will be gone before we see anything that looks remotely like a turn around. Ted said we will build through draft ! OK how does this do that?

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | December 18, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Ernie was reduced to moving Gil for the sake of it and gaining nothing in return.
Posted by: divi3

I'm not enamored of the trade but what the organization gained is a savings in salary. We as fans may not care about that but I think we can understand that the owner clearly does.

Posted by: nmik | December 18, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Well, maybe the Wiz can showcase Lewis, prove that he can still knock down the 3's, and do another deal to get a young player and a draft pick.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 18, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

So happy for Gil, but not happy with the trade. How can the wiz not get a first rounder along with Lewis? Time for eg to go!

Posted by: demonj21 | December 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse


LMAO at all the Wiz fans (G-Man11, Ivyleague, etc.) who said Leonsis wouldn't trade Gil (because, after all, Leonsis said he wouldn't). Apparently, you believe in the Easter Bunny too.

To those shedding crocodile tears over Gil, remember that he has shown this season that he is what we thought he was - WASHED UP.

Good riddance, Gil, and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Posted by: bobabuie | December 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Next time, if your doctor asked you "rate it from 1 to 10, how bad is your headache?" You can show off your math skill by replying, "12," because it was 6 and it lasted for 2 hours! LOL!


Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

LMFMO!!!!!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"Where does this,anyway you look at it hepls the Wizards?"

It rids them of a player whose presence was a distraction out of proportion with the benefits of having him on the court and creates several million dollars in cap space.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm not enamored of the trade but what the organization gained is a savings in salary. We as fans may not care about that but I think we can understand that the owner clearly does.

I guess hoopshype is incorrect about lewis' salary, because it shows guaranteed money through '12-'13

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz get another soft, jumpshooting, no defense playing "power" forward to add to their already extensive collection. Big whoop. (Andray Blatche should probably start looking over his shoulder a bit more now, however.)

Isn't Lewis a "big" small forward?

He doesn't play inside. Not going to take away minutes from AB. From Thornton, Howard (what are they going to do with him?), yeah; but not a 1 or a 2.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Take VC, rid him at end of season would have been the deal

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | December 18, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

If the information on the first post in this thread is correct, the fact that Lewis is not playing particularly well will, in fact, save us $31M since a large portion of his final year is not fully guaranteed.

EG pulls another coup off in the trade game. Don't agree with some of his contract amounts on some deals, but the man can make prudent trades time and time again even when just unloading a player looks to be nearly impossible.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz will not be competitive in the east for another 7-10 years. There's really no argument against that. It also hurts that right now (and seemingly for at least the next couple of years) 3 of the NBA's top 7 or 8 teams are in our division :-/

Posted by: bowie2000 | December 18, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

save us $31M since a large portion of his final year is not fully guaranteed.

Okay, it frees up $31 M to do what with it?

No big name FA is going to come to this reconstruction project.

They need to win the lottery a couple more times.

This is a lost year for the most part.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

He doesn't play inside. Not going to take away minutes from AB. From Thornton, Howard (what are they going to do with him?), yeah; but not a 1 or a 2.

Wall
KH
RL
AB
JM

That's a turd lineup right there. You can just see Blatche drifting farther and farther outside...."No fair Flip, Rashard's out there!"

Meanwhile Flip will drill JM for not covering the entire painted area alone.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Everyone that thinks we could have got a better deal is crazy.

No other team in the league wants Gil. He's signed to one of the worst deals and who knows if that knee will hold up. We were lucky to move him.

Keep this in mind about Lewis, he was the 3rd or 4th option in Orlando. He will be the 1st or 2nd option here. His numbers will go up here.

Potential depth chart...

1- Wall, Hinrich
2- Young, Gee, Martin
3- Howard, Thornton
4- Lewis, Blatche, Yi
5- McGee, Armstrong, Seraphin

Posted by: DMoney28 | December 18, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"This is a lost year for the most part."

Next year also.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | December 18, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"He (Lewis) doesn't play inside."

Which distinguishes him from the other Wizards "bigs" how, exactly? Lewis has played the vast, vast majority of his games in Orlando as the starting PF. He played some SF early in his career at Seattle, but age and injury have robbed him of what little lateral quickness he had to guard out on the perimeter.

And the truth is, Lewis does have a post up game. He was primarily a post up guy during his first few years in Seattle. It's only been since the move to Orlando that 3's started making up almost half of his shot attempts. In terms of skill, he's a better post up player than anyone currently on the Wizards' roster. For however little that's worth.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Finally, the Wiz are looking beyond one season. This makes all the sense in the world if you look two or three years down the road. If you want to build a winner, you have to look ahead.

As in all NBA deals, you have to consider length of contract and salary cap. If you think through those two things, you have to be thrilled about this deal.

EG is being criticized because he did not pull the trigger sooner, and had to settle for Lewis. I'll bet EG held out because he was asked to take Gortat's very long term contract in exchange for Blatche. Say what you want about Andray, too soft, not in shape, whatever--but his upside is still being explored. Gortat's upside is more or less known, and his contract runs thorough 2014. Blatche is marketable (although I like him here for awhile), while Orlando has been trying to unload Gortat. Contrats to EG for holding out.

Posted by: EdDC | December 18, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

If the information on the first post in this thread is correct, the fact that Lewis is not playing particularly well will, in fact, save us $31M since a large portion of his final year is not fully guaranteed.

From another site:

The sixth year is worth $22.7 million, if paid in full. While only $10 million of it is currently guaranteed, a league source revealed that the remainder will be guaranteed if certain performance incentives are met. According to this source, it boils down to this: If Lewis remains healthy, he’ll get the money.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Ted said we will build through draft ! OK how does this do that?
Posted by: bossclifnpooh2

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unless lewis by himself accounts for 30 wins, it doesn't change any chance we had of building through the draft. the draft will still be there. we will still be there.

Posted by: MinuMang | December 18, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Very Sad.

Posted by: lrr45@yahoo.com | December 18, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Okay, it frees up $31 M to do what with it?

SteveMG

Will someone puhleeeeeze let the two of us know ?

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | December 18, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a terrible deal that makes the Wizards weaker and our division rival Orlando much stronger.

Terrible. I thought it was a terrible deal when it was Lewis plus someone else. Assuming Arenas stays healthy, this deal will haunt us for four or five years.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | December 18, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

This makes all the sense in the world if you look two or three years down the road.

That's about when Wall becomes a free agent and joins his "big bro" Lebron somewhere if we're still a dogsh!t team sporting 34yr old Rashard Lewis at PF.

This team needs to be noticeably better NEXT year, and in the playoffs for sure by the following season

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Great move for DC, Maryland, and Virginia sports fans! Thanks Ted for making the right decision to move this idiot out of the mid-atlantic region and beginning the process of regaining respect for the Wizards.

Posted by: calabash2 | December 18, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

It's only been since the move to Orlando that 3's started making up almost half of his shot attempts. In terms of skill, he's a better post up player than anyone currently on the Wizards' roster

Okay, maybe he'll make the adjustment back to being more of an inside player (his career best rebound average with Seattle was 6.6).

As you noted, with Orlando he's been mostly a perimeter player.

I just see him mostly playing SF alongside McGee and Blatche.

Rearranging deck chairs on a senior citizen luxury cruise. I.e., nobody will notice.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"The sixth year is worth $22.7 million, if paid in full. While only $10 million of it is currently guaranteed, a league source revealed that the remainder will be guaranteed if certain performance incentives are met. According to this source, it boils down to this: If Lewis remains healthy, he’ll get the money."

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 4:55 PM

I doubt it's that simple. If the performance incentives involve things like games played, minutes played, and scoring average, those things can be affected to a large degree by how the coach uses him, so there is some organization control over his fate. And even if he does meet the incentives, that just means the Wizards "only" save about $14 mill rather than $30. Boo hoo.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

That's about when Wall becomes a free agent and joins his "big bro" Lebron somewhere if we're still a dogsh!t team sporting 34yr old Rashard Lewis at PF.

True That! I guess J Wall will have his "Takin' my game to South beach" ESPN Special!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Sad end for Arenas, who has been one of the best and most entertaining players in Washington in years.

If Lewis can rediscover his eye from the three-point line, this trade could really help the Wiz.

Best part of the trade is that Vince Carter is nowhere in sight.

Posted by: DC2Dallas | December 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

"Meanwhile Flip will drill JM for not covering the entire painted area alone."

Posted by: divi3

LOL. Ole JaVale's gonna to catch all kinds of hell from Flip as defenders breeze to the rim with the vaulted forward combination of Blatche and Lewis.

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

save us $31M since a large portion of his final year is not fully guaranteed.

"Okay, it frees up $31 M to do what with it?

No big name FA is going to come to this reconstruction project.

They need to win the lottery a couple more times.

This is a lost year for the most part.

Posted by: SteveMG"

First, you make a very bad assumption. Players do go to places you would not expect if the money is right. But, that is not even the point. Perhaps, it's a contract extension for Wall. It could be a lot of things. And, we get rid of GA who since the knee injuries has been nothing but a distraction and albatross around the franchises' neck.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

EG pulls another coup off in the trade game.

Lewis is often considered to have the worst contract in the nba, if not pro sports. Certainly amongst the worst. Trading him straight up for Gil is hardly a coup, outside Melodious' mind anyway.

A coup would have been getting something of value in return, not just potential CAP space years down the line that may or may not be usable given a new CBA

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

1. You guys are such haters. It's almost comical.

2. I love Gil, but it was time. Waiting for the post-Gil era would have taken too long and been too distracting. He's my boy but he was undeniably acting crazy.

3. Saving one year and $33M is pretty important.

4. This probably greases the wheels for Dray's exit. He's good, but he's a total slacker and I'm sure the team wants to change the atmosphere. Lewis can keep the 4-spot warm until Seraphin or Booker are ready. And now they can trade Dray for someone with more competitive fire and bball IQ who plays the 2 or 3.

5. I'm not sure what happened behind the scenes, but clearly they were CONVINCED thoroughly that Wall-Arenas did not work as the starting backcourt. They tried it, what, once?? Yes, injuries, but they still could have tried it an additional 10 or so times when Gil or Wall was on the bench. It's weird how much Flip and staff are convinced that Kirk-Wall works, but likewise convinced that Wall-Arenas does not. It has to be something they discovered in practice.

Peace out, Gil. I feel like I just broke up with a crazy girlfriend. It ended horribly and you're glad it's over, but you're still sentimental for the good times (no matter how long ago they occurred).

Posted by: Urnesto | December 18, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Arenas and Haynesworth gone in the same month.

Can anyone say Merry Christmas?

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | December 18, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Good Riddance. What a waste of space, air,and basic humanity. Blank you and the horse you rode in on. May you just plain rot.

No effort to play, no effort to care, nothing. Blank you.

Posted by: misfit614 | December 18, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Mission accomplished. This franchise wanted and needed to move Arenas ever since Gun-gate. Forget about the relative values of the players. They've cleared some of Arenas' salary. A positive move, but Lewis isn't going to have a major impact on the quality of the team's performance.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"As you noted, with Orlando he's been mostly a perimeter player."

Yes, but he was a perimeter PF. That's the point. He can't play SF for extended periods any more than Yi or Blatche can, for basically the same reasons. Also, he played mostly on the perimeter because that's where SVG wanted him to play. He wanted the 3 pt shooting at the PF slot to open up the interior for Howard. Clearly, that's not going to be an issue for Washington. In fact, the Magic experimented with starting him at SF a bit this season to get more rebounding on the floor to help Howard. The experiment was quickly abandoned when opposing SFs started blowing by Lewis like a winter gale on their way to the hoop.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

It's weird how much Flip and staff are convinced that Kirk-Wall works, but likewise convinced that Wall-Arenas does not. It has to be something they discovered in practice.

I dont think they're convinced about anything other than that Gil had to be traded under any circumstance, which of course was the biggest reason to bring Hinrich in though they never said it.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Another (!) sad day for the Wizards, but a good day for Gil. Obviously, this a very poor basketball move for the Wizards, simply a move to get rid of Gilbert, still the most talented play on the team (apologies to John Wall). To anyone who has posted comments noting how the move saves "us" money, please remember that the team's moves do not save US money. They save ownership money as they continue to keep the team under the salary cap. The team's plan is to be as terrible as possible and hope for another great draft pick. I give up- my last year as a season ticket holder.

Posted by: larryrob | December 18, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I really really wish they had gotten Gortat in the deal. As it is, the Wizards didn't get better on the court. Just in the pocketbook (which isn't totally bad).

Posted by: tundey | December 18, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Another (!) sad day for the Wizards, but a good day for Gil. Obviously, this a very poor basketball move for the Wizards, simply a move to get rid of Gilbert, still the most talented play on the team (apologies to John Wall). To anyone who has posted comments noting how the move saves "us" money, please remember that the team's moves do not save US money. They save ownership money as they continue to keep the team under the salary cap. The team's plan is to be as terrible as possible and hope for another great draft pick. I give up- my last year as a season ticket holder.

Posted by: larryrob | December 18, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

@Divi,

Yes, getting rid of GA and saving money in the process is a coup. I know you operate with a limited mental capacity, but that's ok. You seem to have some companions, at least, on this particular subject.

Last time I checked, RL was not bringing guns to work and ruining seasons for his team. Not to mention, crapping in shoes, being a goofball, playing how he wants to play and not listening to coaches. The list just goes on with GA.

By the way, when the NBA pundits (guys that know the NBA and work in the NBA) come out in support of this move and they will, I'll enjoy you eating crow once again.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Lewis had an excellent post-up game years ago. At this point with 150,000 miles on his legs and no incentive to work hard, I will be shocked if we see anything other than the same jumpshooter who the Magic couldnt wait to get rid of.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

At the end of the day, I think Gil wanted to be gone and I guess we're still under that "Curse"! Wanna see those attendance numbers because I don't know who would pay anything to see this team with Comcast showing the game for FREE! Still can't say they got much better but I think we got older, worse of a draw for players, and less of an attraction for fans (unless they bring in Chuck for a halftime show). I'll reserve my judgement for now! GO WIZ!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse


I am going to burn my Arenas jersey tonight. Somebody else said better in an earlier post. Nobody knows what it was like to root for the Wizards in the 1980s and 1990s. The only time this franchise had any hope was in 1997 when Howard and Webber were here and made a run to the playoffs and than when Arenas came here.

Now the hope is gone again. I am not sure which franchise is more poorly managed, the Wizards or the Redskins.

Hope deferred makes the heart sick.

Good Luck Gilbert. I hope you win a championship with Howard.

Posted by: noups | December 18, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The other potential result of the Lewis deal is that it may set up a deal for Blatche. It's become more and more apparent (at least for those who hadn't seen it ages ago) that Blatche is not a future franchise/all-star/cornerstone PF. At best he's a decent role player on a good team. But decent role players have value to good teams. If Lewis becomes the starting PF of the moment, it may allow them to trade Blatche for other assets that can be of more long-term value. (Of course, that plan would have had a much better chance of success if they'd thought of it before giving him that ridiculous extension.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse


Not sure why people are acting like we lost a great player in Gilbert Arenas. If we had traded him in 2006, then yeah, I guess I can see that. But the Wizards traded him in 2010, when he is just a shell of his former self. Arenas is badly damaged goods and I think Grunfeld did the right thing in unloading him for a healthy small forward (which, btw, is just what we need).

Unlike Wall and Arenas, Wall and Lewis can peacefully coexist, and dare I say it, thrive.

Posted by: bobabuie | December 18, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I really really wish they had gotten Gortat in the deal.

That would have been an actual coup, rather than EG sycophant coup.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Real sad to see 'em go. But I guess it had to happen and it was just a matter of time...

BEST OF LUCK, GIL! LIGHT IT UP DOWN THERE!

Posted by: moment_i | December 18, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

See ya 00

Posted by: Brue | December 18, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Its funny how so many still have Hinrich starting. Isn't Nick Young the only real shooting guard we have left.

Why would he not be the automatic two guard to start with Arenas outahere.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Arenas didn't want to be here this season and the team didn't want him here. Sounds like a win-win if you only look at it from the Wizards point of view.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse


"[Getting Gortat in a deal] would have been an actual coup, rather than EG sycophant coup."

Posted by: div

Gortat wouldn't be a good fit here AND he's grossly overpaid with too many years on his contract. No thanks.

Posted by: bobabuie | December 18, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

"Rashard can shoot, rebound, play some defense..." Ernie Grunfeld.

Rashard Lewis career rebounding average: 5.6 per game.
Lewis' scouting report according to Hoopshype.com "...Doesn't play much defense...". According to draftexpress.com "Not going to wow anyone with his defensive production..."

Ernie, yes we know Lewis can shoot, but seriously dude...

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 18, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Where are the real Wizards and Gilbert Arenas fan club at? I feel like we've been portrayed by both Ernie and Ted!

Lewis? really? I'm still a die-hard Wizard fan but damm...2010-2011 NBA champs= Orlando Magic. Its going to be a blast watching Gil play in the playoffs once again. Hopefully he wears #0 again. I cant wait til he shits all over the court vs the Wizards and the fake as* fans around this area. Real talk.

Posted by: crisco00786 | December 18, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

"Unlike Wall and Arenas, Wall and Lewis can peacefully coexist, and dare I say it, thrive."

Posted by: bobabuie | December 18, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Who give's a damn if they can "thrive"! Want to know how they can when games with the quote "Lewis is having one of the worst years of his career!" Have you noticed that Lewis has done NOTHING since he got busted for 'roids? I guess he's queaky clean huh!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

"Lewis had an excellent post-up game years ago. At this point with 150,000 miles on his legs and no incentive to work hard, I will be shocked if we see anything other than the same jumpshooter who the Magic couldnt wait to get rid of."

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:13 PM

That's certainly possible. But if true, it's still a net plus for the Wiz because they traded a jumpshooter who's shooting 32% from 3 for a jumpshooter who's shooting 37% from three and is, at least, $13+ mill less expensive. Fail to see how that's a bad thing, really.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Who give a rats azz what RL does on the court?

He could rot on the bench for all I care.

I've been to a few games this season and I watched GA look like an old man on the court up close. No burst anymore, sloppy passes, can't finish around the rim, and a poor shooting percentage. The only thing I liked about his game this season is he improved his effort on defense compared to years past.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I imagine the Miami Heat aren't too thrilled about this trade.

Posted by: eric22 | December 18, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Call me stupid (or worse) but I haven't given up on Blatche.

There's a player there. Whether it comes out - and the record so far says it won't - remains the question.

I'd give him the rest of the year at least. Maybe a lightbulb will go off.

If there's even a bulb there that is.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Gortat wouldn't be a good fit here AND he's grossly overpaid with too many years on his contract.

He's 26yrs old, 6'11" and seems to like rebounding and defending. Dedicated to fitness and the weight room. Tough guy whose Dad was a boxer. The type of player we pretend to want.

But anyways, there was probably little incentive for any team to give us much when unloading Gil...other than a similar POS contract

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I know, I'm a hater & EG is much smarter than me, but this looks like the worst possible trade the Wiz could have made. No pick, no Gortat, no nothing except another lousy contract & another has-been player.

Lewis adds nothing. This team will be very lucky to get to 23 wins, both this year & next.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 18, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Unlike Wall and Arenas, Wall and Lewis can peacefully coexist, and dare I say it, thrive.

Posted by: bobabuie | December 18, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Forget them "thriving" together! I wanna see them win games with "Lewis is having one of the worst seasons of his career". BTW- Lewis hasn't done much since he got suspended for steriod use! In your mind, does that make him squeaky clean or just a shell of himself?

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Does the deal do much (if anything) to significantly improve the Wizards on the floor this season? Probably not. But there are more considerations than that. If they'd done nothing, the Wiz would have continued to stink. The level of Arenas's play and behavior so far made it unlikely that any better (or even other) deals would be forthcoming anytime soon, and there was little reason to think that would change the longer they waited. So their choices were to hold onto Arenas and hope he'd make a miraculous turnaround or, barring that, just wait until he reached expiring contract status in 3 more years. Neither were attractive options.

This is most likely the best deal they could make. And given that, it's certainly better than the alternative, which was doing nothing.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse


Sadly, Gilbert Arenas is many years removed from his best playing days. In fact, I doubt if Arenas can jump over my niece's coloring book in his present physical state. His explosion is gone, his ability to handle the ball is greatly diminished and he can't absorb contact and finish the way he used to. In short, Arenas has lost "it". We've all seen it this year so that's that.

This is an unequivocable coup for the Wizards and Ernest Grunfeld. Otis Smith will likely lose his job over such a tremendous blunder.

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | December 18, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

That's certainly possible. But if true, it's still a net plus for the Wiz because they traded a jumpshooter who's shooting 32% from 3 for a jumpshooter who's shooting 37% from three and is, at least, $13+ mill less expensive. Fail to see how that's a bad thing, really.

I understand why they made the trade. But with all the players that have been talked about, kind of disappointing that EG wasnt able to do anything of note- just traded our bag of poo for someone else's. Gil for Rashard straight up is nothing other than moving Gil, which had to be done.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz were operating from a position of weakness w/ Arenas. I thought that they'd never be able to trade him w/ that albatross contract. Figured it could only happen w/ a team that had a player w/ another bloated contract. Both Arenas and Lewis are grossly overpaid, but Lewis has the more attractive contract from a salary cap perspective.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Don't let the (cell)door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: TommyMcGuire | December 18, 2010 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"Ernie was reduced to moving Gil for the sake of it and gaining nothing in return."

What do you expect to get for someone who has missed most of the last three years with injuries; had severe emotional, legal, and psychological problems; and an albatross of a contract. It was a miracle to be able to get rid of him at all, Lewis' contract was just as bad but a year (and a half?) shorter (plus no bringing guns to work, plus plays a different position than Wall)so about this is about the best we can do. EG deserves to be blamed for signing GA to the contract in the first place, but people complaining that we should have got more in terms of players that can help us now are living in a fantasyland, GA's value is null, if not negative...

Kinda reminds me of a couple of year ago when people were saying we could trade Kwame for Tim Duncan or some such, no clue at all about reality.

Posted by: junkiwonteverread | December 18, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Yo boy off to DC it was fun playing in Orlando had a great time trying to win it all got close but not close enough but it's been real." Lewis.

Great. A reprobate wannabe gangbangin' criminal for a retarded non-English speaking basketball player. Wonderful. Glad I moved to Boston. The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams are completely incompetent and retarded.

Posted by: JamesChristian | December 18, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The other potential result of the Lewis deal is that it may set up a deal for Blatche. It's become more and more apparent (at least for those who hadn't seen it ages ago) that Blatche is not a future franchise/all-star/cornerstone PF. At best he's a decent role player on a good team. But decent role players have value to good teams. If Lewis becomes the starting PF of the moment, it may allow them to trade Blatche for other assets that can be of more long-term value. (Of course, that plan would have had a much better chance of success if they'd thought of it before giving him that ridiculous extension.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:16 PM

Even if you disallow that ridiculous extension as you call it, the problem with this scenario is that Lewis has been determined to really be a small forward and not the power forward to move Blatche.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

"[Getting Gortat in a deal] would have been an actual coup, rather than EG sycophant coup."

Posted by: div

Gortat wouldn't be a good fit here AND he's grossly overpaid with too many years on his contract. No thanks.

lol...divi the abysmal GM. Would love to have heard the comments 2 years from now if that trade were made. Gortat is not even in the BH league of centers and has a $34M dollar contract. As he said, no thanks. Actually, the savings would have been even more, but, that is why that trade would never happen.

You can also wish for a lot of things. You could wish for a first round pick and on and on and on. The problem is you are not going to receive it when you have no leverage in a trade. The only way we got a deal this nice was Orlando's panicking during their current losing streak so they were willing to take a money disparity in the trade.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

"Another nothing trade for this team; it's always a given. They need a dominant rebounder above all else. So they go for another 4 boards a game guy in return for "the burner." Bob Ferry lives!"

Apparently Orlando offered Dwight Howard straight up for Gil, but that fool Ernie turned it down!

Oh wait, they didn't. Seriously, who in their right mind would trade a dominant rebounder for GA?

Posted by: junkiwonteverread | December 18, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"[Getting Gortat in a deal] would have been an actual coup, rather than EG sycophant coup."

Posted by: div

Gortat wouldn't be a good fit here AND he's grossly overpaid with too many years on his contract. No thanks.

lol...divi the abysmal GM. Would love to have heard the comments 2 years from now if that trade were made. Gortat is not even in the BH league of centers and has a $34M dollar contract. As he said, no thanks. Actually, the savings would have been even more, but, that is why that trade would never happen.

You can also wish for a lot of things. You could wish for a first round pick and on and on and on. The problem is you are not going to receive it when you have no leverage in a trade. The only way we got a deal this nice was Orlando's panicking during their current losing streak so they were willing to take a money disparity in the trade.

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I think it will take some time for the Magic to gel with the new faces (although Turkoglu is going back to the team that made him a prize free agent).

Very glad to see Gil go, given his attitude and price tag. Even if Lewis is a head case, he can't be any more of a distraction than Arenas. ... plus we got help at the 3, which is really what Lewis plays. He may be a 7-footer but his game is better on the perimeter.

No matter, he's not here for the long haul. I'm looking forward to watching the Wizards grow up and grow better. It's going to take time, more than just this year.

Posted by: zinger1 | December 18, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"I understand why they made the trade. But with all the players that have been talked about, kind of disappointing that EG wasnt able to do anything of note- just traded our bag of poo for someone else's. Gil for Rashard straight up is nothing other than moving Gil, which had to be done."

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:33 PM

No. it's moving Arenas and creating at least $13 mill in cap flexibility. And as much as you want to pretend that doesn't matter or has no effect on the team's ability to improve its fortunes on court, the fact is that it does.

"Great. A reprobate wannabe gangbangin' criminal for a retarded non-English speaking basketball player."

You might wanna check the language settings on your browser, because it looked to me like Lewis's tweet was written in clear and plain English.

"Wonderful. Glad I moved to Boston. The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams are completely incompetent and retarded."

Posted by: JamesChristian | December 18, 2010 5:34 PM

An irrationally angry rant shot through with thinly-veiled racial intolerance from someone who lives in Boston? Gee, what are the odds?

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams are completely incompetent and retarded.

I'm glad you moved to Bawwwwwwwston also !

Posted by: bossclifnpooh2 | December 18, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Gil gets to move on to warmer weather and contend for a championship, which he never had a realistic change of doing here. For him, that's pretty good Karma. For the Wizards....not so much. Good luck Gil. The Wiz, they need help more than luck.

Posted by: mackmor | December 18, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse


The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams are completely incompetent and retarded.

Posted by: JamesChristian

Yo, JC. This Washingtonian thinks that you should know that you have serious problem with subject-verb agreement in the above sentence. It should read "The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams is completely incompetent and retarded". The subject is the establishment. Don't allow yourself to be thrown off by the prepositional phrase "from the White House down to the sports teams".

I'm just sayin', Yo.

Posted by: ahwyatt | December 18, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Gortat is not even in the BH league of centers and has a $34M dollar contract.

We're going to see in Phoenix. They gave up a lot for him.

I think he can play.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Arenas made three all-star teams in his time with the Wizards, leading the franchise to only its second playoff appearance since 1982.

UM... 83-84 84-85 85-86 86-87 87-88 96-97 c'mon man

Posted by: realwizfan | December 18, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Great. A reprobate wannabe gangbangin' criminal for a retarded non-English speaking basketball player. Wonderful. Glad I moved to Boston. The entire Washington establishment from the White House down to the sports teams are completely incompetent and retarded.

Posted by: JamesChristian

And the fact that all of them have managed to make millions of dollars makes you what exactly?

Posted by: bozomoeman | December 18, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

In a year and a half the Wizards can buy out Lewis for 10 mil, instead of still owing 40 mil to Gil. Would of been nice to get something more, but I'm just happy it's done.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"Even if you disallow that ridiculous extension as you call it, the problem with this scenario is that Lewis has been determined to really be a small forward and not the power forward to move Blatche."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 5:37 PM

Determined by who? You? Well, you'll excuse me if I take the opinions of Stan Van Gundy and Nate McMillan--both of whom played him primarily (and, in the case of the former, almost exclusively) at PF the last several year, over yours.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Flip will go with a 4 forward offense?

PG Kirk
SG Lewis
SF Thorton
PF AB
C JM

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | December 18, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

These deal is just another reason why the NBA should go to a NFL contract type system. Both these guys stunk up their teams. Instead of getting cut b/c they're over-paid and bringing down their teams, they get to suck the life out of more fans in a different city.

Posted by: sparagi | December 18, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

now changed the name Ted. The wizards is a horrible name. Go back to the bullets.

Posted by: tony28 | December 18, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Another note of interest is that folks keep pointing to the abaltross of a contract that Gilbert has. Take note, if Gilbert knew he was really biding time here then he really played it cool and may not be washed up atall.

What if he is really in form and not really pushing it because he knew his time here was short.

If Gilbert is really at the doorsteps of his former efficiency the his contract is merited and Orlando might have just become one of the Big Three Again, as in Orlando Boston and the New Myauami'.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

No. it's moving Arenas and creating at least $13 mill in cap flexibility. And as much as you want to pretend that doesn't matter or has no effect on the team's ability to improve its fortunes on court, the fact is that it does.

$13mill 3yrs from now? Who's to say what the CAP will be anyway, or what the CBA will look like? Decent GMs can shave $13mill in their sleep when they need to, managing to do it years down the line is basically nothing. The move wasnt made for CAP reasons, it was made because Gil had to go. So in return we got a guy for 3yrs who we would have no interest in whatsoever at any price under any other circumstance. Yippee!

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Looks to me like the Wizards are going to need to make room on the roster for another pg. Tough break for Gee or Martin, I guess. I wonder if Lester Hudson will be back.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 18, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to Gilbert. In a button-down world, he's a unique personality and a true character.

It would have been nice to get VC and his expiring contract in return, but I seriously doubt that this was ever offered by Orlando. EG did himself in with the horrible contract he gave Gilbert, as we all know.

So now there's no Butler, no MeTawn, no MeShawn, no Woodman, no Agent Zero, and what does EG have to show in return? Not much, if you ask me.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | December 18, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

As Gilby gets shipped out, so does Leonsis's credibility.

So the Suns get a 2011 first round pick and we get a guy who has an unorthodox jump shot? Another SF who did nothing during the playoffs last season?

And the Magic get Hedo T. who left out on Orlando to go to another team?

This closes the chapter on Gilby's career here, but I don't see how Les BouleS become a better team with the trade.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 18, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Gortat is not even in the BH league of centers and has a $34M dollar contract.

We're going to see in Phoenix. They gave up a lot for him.

I think he can play.

Posted by: SteveMG | December 18, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

I think you're mistaking! Gortat looks good against the Wizards. Period! But, every post player looks good against the Wizards.

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

We should have gotten Gortat. Lewis is a waste of $43 million. At least get a big, strong and skilled center out of the deal. Now trade Lewis to Phoenix for Gortat before he moves out there.

Posted by: Airborne82 | December 18, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Why are all of you worrying about this trade or this team, nothing is going to change until Sundry and Gumtry are gone, they have done nothing to help the younger players out to understand or improve their game. Not until they are gone will this team start to improve with a proven coach that know how to coach younger players.

Posted by: getagripped | December 18, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I guess now we will see how bad Wall's foot really is.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"Arenas had long been considered untradeable with a contract worth around $62 million over the next three seasons after this one, but his close ties with Magic general manager Otis Smith helped push this deal along."

Soon to be "former GM Otis Smith"!

I hope he has Isaiah Thomas phone number.

Posted by: 54465446 | December 18, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"Grunfeld recalled that when the Wizards (re-signed) Arenas "he was one of the top-10 players in the NBA.

"With the injuries and everything that happened, things just got stale with that group," Grunfeld said, referring to Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler. "Now we're moving in a different direction.""

Sorry Ernie, what's stale is you. Time for you to leave also.

And BTW, when you resigned Gilby, yes, he "WAS," as in used to be, one of the top 10 players in the NBA. He wasn't when he signed though.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | December 18, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

"$13mill 3yrs from now? Who's to say what the CAP will be anyway, or what the CBA will look like? Decent GMs can shave $13mill in their sleep when they need to, managing to do it years down the line is basically nothing. The move wasnt made for CAP reasons, it was made because Gil had to go. So in return we got a guy for 3yrs who we would have no interest in whatsoever at any price under any other circumstance. Yippee!"

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:52 PM

Please be so kind as to provide some examples of other NBA GMs' moving $80 mill contracts attached to players nearing 30 coming off multiple knee surgeries, several seasons worth of missed games, a near season long extension for bad conduct, mired in the midst of a career worst year on the court while shaving $13 mill off the cap "in their sleep."

Three to 5 examples should be fine.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I guess now we will see how bad Wall's foot really is.

I was thinking the same thing, frickin Days of Our Lives at vc...at least that's done

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

What if he is really in form and not really pushing it because he knew his time here was short.
LarryInClintonMD.

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you're suggesting he was deliberately tanking? deliberately throwing games? I'd like to think he wouldn't have been that tacky.

Posted by: MinuMang | December 18, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Wizards will have a 22.7 mil expiring contract in 2012-13. Other than Gil leaving, that is what this deal tells me. They have substantial expiring contracts in 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 along with a young base of players. They didn't need a large expiring contract next year, as the team will not be good enough to attract key FAs. Patience.

Posted by: dabwilldo40 | December 18, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow...another 6'10" jump shooting front court player. Pathetic, soft frontcourt just got more pathetic and softer.

Posted by: el11 | December 18, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Actually, this move helps keep Wall in DC.

You get to replace the big salary (Arenas' salary and now Lewis') a year earlier than before, giving you a chance to let Wall see that you are building a team he can work with by the time his contract is close to ending. Besides, Ted Leonsis' MO is always to ink young superstars long term as soon as he can.

With Gill here, Ted would have to promise Wall he would have good players around him. With a shorter contract for Lewis, Ted can actually deliver key pieces for Wall to enjoy playing with. Ted is thinking years ahead.

Posted by: EdDC | December 18, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

As a Magic fan, I have real concerns whether Arenas and Jameer Nelson can co-exist.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Just outta curiosity, when does anyone see this team having a winning record again?
2 years? 3 years? 5 years?

And this trade helps on the court how?

To be honest & ignorant, I really don't care about saving Teddy-boy money, nor do I care if the Wiz go over the cap & have to pay some of Teddy's money as a fine. He'rich as hell, he can afford it. As a fan, saving Teddy money matters not a whit to me.

What does matter is being able to watch an entertaining team that looks competent, competes, & actually wins at least half their games. This is not that team, & looks nowhere near being that team for years to come.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 18, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 5:57 PM

He didnt move $80mill, he moved $13mill by taking the worst (or 2nd worst) contract in the nba in return for Gil. One team's woes for anothers, really not that impressive nor special given the entire league was calling Lewis untradeable as well.

It's boiled down to EG trading the old team for Al Thornton and Rashard Lewis. And maybe a leg and arm of trevor booker, unless you think he would have been available with our original pick as many seem to believe.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Personally I think that Gilbert was awesome. I truly enjoyed watching him and will miss him. His unselfishness when he signed less than a max contract so the Bullets could sign Antwon hould be noted as well. In the end his best position was with the ball in his hands, and with John Wall this would be more difficult so it was best to move him. I feel that he will have about 5 more great years in him. In the end John Wall needed the ball and this would never work with both him and Gilbert in the same line up. So a good move for the Bullets, but I am more than a little sad.

Posted by: sjd237 | December 18, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"At least get a big, strong and skilled center out of the deal."

I thought you were talking about Gortat, not Dwight Howard.

The Magic overpaid for Gortat. Badly. That's a big part of why he's going elsewhere.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 18, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Wow...another 6'10" jump shooting front court player. Pathetic, soft frontcourt just got more pathetic and softer.

The amusing thing about Yi and Lewis is they make Blatche look like a low-post banger and defender. So as soft as he gets, there are always two EVEN SOFTER guys right behind him. Dray probably opened a bag of twinkies when he heard the news.

Posted by: divi3 | December 18, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

ahwyatt, well said with respect to JC.

As far as the Arenas deal goes, sad to see him go, and it's too bad that Grunfeld wasn't able to swing a pick as part of the deal, but the move gives the team a little flexibility down the road. It probably needed to be done.

Posted by: JPRS | December 18, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Good for us and good for Gil! I like this move, and he's traded in the division so we'll see him a lot. Not only that, but every decent player the Wizards let go of goes on to find huge success as Rip n Ben n Sheed n C Webb n others can attest. So congratulations on your nba championship this year Gil, we should be getting ours in about 2-3 years. Facts.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | December 18, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Good news, for a backup pg, Cedrick Jackson is available in the D League! Also Curtis Stinson.

Lester H., if you read this, please have your agent call Ernie in the morning.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 18, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert was a liability in so many ways before the devastating last 3 years.
He now has no lateral movement at all, which is crucial to a point guard, and to one dedicated to playing defense.
With the accumulated, speedy and talented point guards now saturating the league, Gil was and will be non combative.
I was one that enjoyed him as a player and personality. But he is a whisper of what he was in all aspects.
I feel he will be out of the league before his contract expires.
RL is at least healthy, talented and willing. He does bring skills and athleticism that are have been wanting on this roster. And even if he fails, we have money available and players that are marketable in future trades.
A win/win for the wiz, though not earth shaking.

Posted by: mricklen | December 18, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Not the only one that is saying that he is really a three, Lewis that is, check the board, I not just making this up.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

it's an ok trade. Really good for arenas. Now he can play with a potential winner.

It's ok for the Wiz because it was very clear that Wall and Arenas couldn't play together. Arenas was a specator when Wall was on the court. Young is playing exceptionally well now, which also make the trade reasonable.

they didn't hold many cards.

Posted by: stevie2 | December 18, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

As a Magic fan, I have real concerns whether Arenas and Jameer Nelson can co-exist.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Seriously. I was thinking earlier Jameer is a huge ball hog and doesn't like to pass to Rashard much this season for some reason. It serves him right that now someone will be hogging the ball from him. I seriously think this makes Orlando a lot better overall though if J Rich and Gil stay healthy and Turkoglu tries. I think this will be good for the Wizards long term. And if Rashard can get his A game back with a better PG setting him up and more responsibility to be our leading scorer, this could work out great for everybody. I think we need to trade one of our forwards for a draft pick now though because we have so many similar ones.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | December 18, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Well, this swap is about those big contracts, and about two players who'd worn out their welcome with their respective franchises.

Anything else is probably gravy.

I'm wondering if we'll see Blatche play some at center.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 18, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

"Not the only one that is saying that he is really a three, Lewis that is, check the board, I not just making this up."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 6:12 PM

Ah, I see. So because a couple of other fans on the internet said the same factually inaccurate thing as you, that counts as "determination" in your mind?

Sorry, not so much.

He's started the vast majority of the games he's appeared in over the past several years at PF. That's simply the fact of the matter. A PF who shoots 3s? Yep. But a PF nonetheless.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

In a year and a half the Wizards can buy out Lewis for 10 mil, instead of still owing 40 mil to Gil. Would of been nice to get something more, but I'm just happy it's done.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Get real no one of merit is coming here, especially with the current GM and coach in place. Rather than focusing on stupid crap like name changes its time to really signal a new direction by getting rid of the coach and GM. It may very well be John Wall's team but until he gets a jump shot, all you have is a right handed Brandon Jennings.

Posted by: NewManagement | December 18, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Not a fan of this deal. It feels more like a save-the-owner-money deal more than an advance-the-franchise deal. Why no picks? No significant benefits to the deal imo for two+ years.

The team lacks interior presence, is too perimeter oriented, and needs defensive help and leadership. Not seeing where Lewis helps with any of that.

Meanwhile, some of the young bigs on the team are going to lose playing time to a guy who represents no part of the future except by his absence.

One guy who may benefit (as someone else pointed out) would be Nick Young. I doubt Flip stops playing KH heavy minutes, but at least in theory NY can spend more of his time at SG.

The team will probably have to make another move though. If Wall continues to be injured, they only have KH as a PG right now. I read the blurb about maybe using Howard as a point-forward type, but it would probably behoove them to bring in someone who can defend the quicker PGs who have been giving them fits.

Posted by: ts35 | December 18, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

We needed a draft pick not Lewis! EG is a fool!

Posted by: nadeemsx | December 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Gonna miss Gilbert.
Hope he does well in Fla.
I guess it was all about the $$$'s getting Lewis.
Ted is just looking to the future.
Just like Shanahan.

Posted by: VBFan | December 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

About Lewis: his last 3 seasons (the only ones to pay attention to), he's close to 40% from the arc. If you have a healthy John Wall, that's a useful player. Doesn't matter whether you call him a 3 or a 4, long as you recognize he's going to stay outside and launch 3 pointers.

Does nothing for the team's main problem, which is in the post. Doesn't make it better, doesn't make it worse.

Posted by: Samson151 | December 18, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse


Bring Donovan McNabb on board too. I understand he has some time on his hands.

Seriously, at least the Bullets are doing something positive to move on without Arenas. He may be moving to a winning team but, in the long run, the Bullets are the real winners.


Posted by: mortified469 | December 18, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

and don't let the door hit you on you way out!!

Posted by: ksowa | December 18, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Wow...another 6'10" jump shooting front court player. Pathetic, soft frontcourt just got more pathetic and softer.

The amusing thing about Yi and Lewis is they make Blatche look like a low-post banger and defender. So as soft as he gets, there are always two EVEN SOFTER guys right behind him. Dray probably opened a bag of twinkies when he heard the news.

Now that is a pretty funny post!

Posted by: rphilli721 | December 18, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

"Doesn't matter whether you call him a 3 or a 4, long as you recognize he's going to stay outside and launch 3 pointers. "

Well, it matters to the extent that it help determines what other players are out on the floor with him. And I do think we'll see more of him in the post (or off the dribble) than in Orlando. His being primarily a spot up shooter in Orlando was by design on the part of Van Gundy. Not saying he's going to be a go-to interior scorer every play, but I think he'll be less 3-centric.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Good luck, Gilbert! We'll miss you and your generosity to the fans in D.C. But ever since you spent a million dollars to celebrate your 25th b-day at Club Love in '07, it's been bad news for you. I hope you find happiness in Orlando.

Posted by: HonestBroker1 | December 18, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

"The team will probably have to make another move though. If Wall continues to be injured, they only have KH as a PG right now."

Posted by: ts35 | December 18, 2010 6:21 PM

What's Earl Boykins up to these days?

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 6:31 PM | Report abuse

No matter what else happened, Gil, I want to thank you for the night you sunk the Bulls at United Center. That is a moment I will never forget throughout my life. I've never seen DC so excited about basketball than in that series.

Posted by: NWDC3 | December 18, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert is a unique talent. I will miss him. The team is bad with or without him. Let's be grateful that we had Gilbert, donating money to good causes, playing with flair, knowing how to laugh, and bringing people joy.

Posted by: DLKPhD | December 18, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

The thing is...i can't argue with the "he had to go people" though the salary cap relief feels like the enjoyment you get from the "player to be named later" trades....

when it comes down to it though....i loved watching arenas play ball (at least offense). My 11 year old loved watching him too...did some boneheaded things but was great to the kids and an unbelievable talent.

arenas, mcnabb, friedgen...and its only 7pm...what else can happen today?!?!

Posted by: IZZY3 | December 18, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

kalo,

Lewis is a more expensive headache but shorter "duration." You realized you misspoke but just try to cover it up by be little others, it is so typical of you, I would not expect anything different.

Back to the topic, Ernie Grunfeld, "Rashard can shoot, rebound." Rashard is averaging only 4.2 rebounds (0.9 more than Gil) as a PF in 32 minutes. I guess Grunfeld probably took his rebounding number and multiply it by the number of years in his contract as well! LOL!

Posted by: sagaliba | December 18, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Boykins is playing for the Bucks. Can Nick Young play some pg?

Posted by: PostSubscriber | December 18, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Does the fact that Wall can't stay healthy & on the court bother anybody? This is the guy to build the team around? So far he's been a disappointment. Not quite Kwame, but less than advertised.

I'm a pessimist, I admit, but I don't see anything positive going on with the Wiz this year. At all. These young guys don't know how to be pros & bring it every night, & there's nobody on the team to show them.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 18, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Not really a great trade...at least try to get JJ or a second round pick with the deal. This deal doesn't make the Wiz better any quicker, but at least they brought in a player that will actually play unlike Gilbert who decided not to play anymore. Watch how all of a sudden his jumper is back.

Posted by: lemekdivine | December 18, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Being that he was rescued from that crack house in Orlando by his dad and move him with really no place to live. The same place where this drug addicted woman came to the team bus while they where there for a game against the Magic claiming to be his mom and the same place where this woman had died before he really got a chance to know her. Hopefully he'll make the the best of his time to go HOME AGAIN! Good Luck Gil! I really wish him the best from a REAL Gilbert Arenas fan!

Posted by: zack9633 | December 18, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Rashard is averaging only 4.2 rebounds (0.9 more than Gil) as a PF in 32 minutes. Posted by: sagaliba

Rashard's rebounding numbers are do in part to playing with Howard. As a player he isn't that much different than Blatche. Both have the ability, but lack the will to play closer to the basket. At home, Andray probably sucks in his gut and pretends he's Rashard draining threes.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

good luck gil. go win something for us in orlando

Posted by: bullets8890 | December 18, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

sagaliba,

Arenas has $80 mil remaining on his contract (including this season). Lewis has $67 mil (including this season). By any definition that exists in the English language (or, for that matter, any other language), that makes Lewis's contract less expensive than Arenas's. To continue to argue otherwise is silly and infantile. You were wrong. Deal with it. Or don't deal with it and shut up about. Either one works for me.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"Rashard's rebounding numbers are do in part to playing with Howard. "

Not really. He's always been a weak rebounder. He's only averaged as many as 7 rpg in 35+ mpg twice in his career. His rebounding totals are lower in Orlando because he spends most of the time on offense 23 feet from the basket (which, I guess, you could claim is Howard's fault if you really wanted to, but it doesn't change the truth about Lewis bing a subpar rebounder).

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Happy for Gil to get away and to a better situation. Unfortunately we trade him for the 2nd highest paid player in the league who is not any better than any of the 3/4's on the team already.

In fact, I know its not my money, but can they just buy out Lewis?

Posted by: jeburton | December 18, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

He's started the vast majority of the games he's appeared in over the past several years at PF. That's simply the fact of the matter. A PF who shoots 3s? Yep. But a PF nonetheless.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 6:18 PM

So I guess based on this analogy you have no problem with me saying that McGee is a center v. the posters that say he is a forward?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to see the Wizards taking a step in the right direction. Setting aside the Caps current losing streak, they're built to be successful for 5 to 7 years. And the Nationals are in the middle of their re-building program. The 'Skins (my all time favorite team) and stuck in neutral - if not reverse. Go Wiz, Caps and Nats. Please, please, please teach the Danny boy a lesson!

Posted by: dcnationals1 | December 18, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Extra Funds the Wiz can use??? Lewis' contract is the second highest in NBA. Wizards got a worse player for more money. But Washington sports leadership always do this. Bench McNabb (best player), trade Arenas (best player). I'm sure the Caps will trade Alex the Great and the Nats will get rid of their best players for a lesser player earning more money too. They have to. Anyway, Magic will now certainly contend with Celts and Heat for East title. Great job Magic, don't know how you pulled it off, but you did.

Posted by: madstamina | December 18, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"So I guess based on this analogy you have no problem with me saying that McGee is a center v. the posters that say he is a forward?"

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | December 18, 2010 7:12 PM

You have no idea how analogies actually work do you?

I have no problem with you saying McGee is C because, based on the fact that he's played C in pretty much every NBA game he's played, he is a C. What that has to do with Rashard Lewis escapes me, but much of what you say escapes me (largely because I have no real incentive to chase after it).

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth Yahoo Sports lists Rashad at small forward. Seraphin and Booker are more important than Lewis at PF, he's not part of Wiz long range plans or even the mid range plans. He's here until he's gone. This deal is the last major phase of the tear down. Blatche may still go but as Kal mentioned that extension was not EG's shining moment, no GM points there.

Posted by: midlevex_ | December 18, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

And if you read the boards on the orlando sentinel's website, the fans are happier to see Lewis go than the majority of people here are happy to see gil go. Not a good sign...

Posted by: jeburton | December 18, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I'll say one thing for Grunfeld, he's consistent. He loves flashy, zero-defense-playing gunners. Wouldn't surprise me to see him go after Jamison again. The good news is Leonsis is smarter, more savvy and more willing to spend money than the infamous cheapskate Pollin. If he doesn't like the direction of the team, EG will be long gone before next season.

Posted by: NYPDee | December 18, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

And if you read the boards on the orlando sentinel's website, the fans are happier to see Lewis go than the majority of people here are happy to see gil go. Not a good sign...

Posted by: jeburton | December 18, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

"For what it's worth Yahoo Sports lists Rashad at small forward."

It's not worth much at all, but if you wanna go down that road: ESPN.com lists him as PF, SI.com and NBA.com list him as just F. Of course none of that matters because the issue isn't what people label him, it's what position he actually plays most often on the court. And that's PF.

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

NY is having a helluva game right now as a starter. Could the exit of GA be the start of something special?

Posted by: bullets8890 | December 18, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

ESPN.com lists him as PF, ESPN, under the depth chart for the Magic have Lewis at SF.

Posted by: midlevex_ | December 18, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

So we went from a possibly overpaid player depending on output to the most overpaid player in the league. The trade for Gil needed to net a first round draft pick or solid couple of players. I love the storyline of building around the "crumbling" Wall. How many games has he played in so far this season?

http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/2010/06/15/most-overpaid-nba-players-for-20102011/

The Magic come out of this smelling like roses since they were able to land all the pieces they were looking for and the only real "loss" was their 2011 first round pick to the Suns.

This deal has the capability of being worse than the Redskins deal for McNabb. I cant believe that Leonsis signed off on this one. Ted, you let us down!

Posted by: ltrepeter2000 | December 18, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

"ESPN, under the depth chart for the Magic have Lewis at SF."

On his player profile they have him listed as PF. And, again, it doesn't really matter what he's listed as on the internet because that has no bearing on what position he actually plays on the court. And that is primarily PF.

Are we done now?

Posted by: kalo_rama | December 18, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

has no bearing on what position he actually plays on the court
He actually plays like a small forward, what position he supposedly plays has no bearing etc, etc. I do know the depth chart on him at ESPN and Yahoo lists him at SF. He plays like a small forward and his stats suggest SF. A rose by any other name. I'm done, you no doubt are not.

Posted by: midlevex_ | December 18, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Gil can still be pretty explosive at times and throw in 30 points. With him and Wall both healthy, if that ever happened, they could have been a huge headache to opponents.

Posted by: browneri | December 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

OK 1 down and 3 to go. Young and Blatche should be next and then a very Merry Christmas by telling Flip to hit the road and then we will be rid of all of the garbage that was on this team. I think the Clippers could use a couple of bums like Blatche and Young, it fits their style like it has fit Clippers East for the last couple of years!

Posted by: Aivdivad | December 18, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"Grunfeld recalled that when the Wizards (re-signed) Arenas 'he was one of the top-10 players in the NBA.'"

Baloney!!

He was one of the top phonies in the league, which is quite a distinction given the lack of character in the NBA. But, he was never one of the top 10 talents. If he was, then there was one heck of a dropoff from in the last half of the top 10. A stupid signing of a stupid person and good they couldn't move him far enough away.

Posted by: familynet | December 18, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

“This trade allows us to continue to rebuild around our core group of young players and provides financial flexibility as we move forward,” said Grunfeld. “We’re thrilled to have been able to accomplish those goals while also getting back a two-time All-Star in Rashard Lewis, who brings us versatility, three-point shooting and a veteran presence.”
Talk about double talk!
TLG

Posted by: fakedude2 | December 18, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

And the last of the so-called Big 3 is gone. 4 years ago this franchise looked to have a promising future. How things have changed. They're one of the worst teams in the league and the fans have been reduced to getting excited about clearing cap space.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Good bye Gilbert and thank you. He came here when was a basketball wasteland and brought electricity to the areana. Unfortunately that was 3 years, one major injury (not his fault) and one unbeliveale locker room incident (was his fault)ago... time to move on. He needed a change of scenery and so did the Wizzards.

I also hoped we would have gotten more but with the performance, injury and baggage, we were hardly dealing from a position of strength.

Posted by: junkmail0153 | December 18, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Rashard's rebounding numbers are due in part to playing with Howard.

Not really. He's always been a weak rebounder. He's only averaged as many as 7 rpg in 35+ mpg twice in his career.
Posted by: kalo_rama

His career high was as a SF. Most of his time in Seattle was at SF.

Posted by: djnnnou | December 18, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

“This trade allows us to continue to rebuild around our core group of young players and provides financial flexibility as we move forward,” said Grunfeld. “We’re thrilled to have been able to accomplish those goals while also getting back a two-time All-Star in Rashard Lewis, who brings us versatility, three-point shooting and a veteran presence.”

Talk about double talk!
TLG

Posted by: fakedude2 | December 18, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, not liking this deal at all. I guess your saving some money in the long haul, but dammit your not getting decent players in this deal, your taking a step back with Lewis. I would have preferred the original deal where we got VC and Gortat and a first, Phoenix got the better deal. Way to go Washington.

Looking at 2013 when Lewis is a free agent, heres some notable names in that class:

Gerald Wallace
Josh Smith
Stephen Curry
Blake Griffin
Andrew Bynum
Lamar Odom
James Harden
Serge Ibaka
Dwight Howard
Elton Brand
Jrue Holiday
Tyreke Evans
DeJuan Blair
Manu Ginobili
Al Jefferson
Paul Millsap


There are some names but I'm skeptical that some of these players would make it to free agency. But at least they aren't waiting for the 2014 FA list ( http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2014/)which is even worse so maybe this is an ok move for us. Still dont like it but whatever..

Posted by: armst012 | December 18, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Arenas is just another wannabe rapper criminal that played with guns he has no business playing with. Best friend to Wilbon. Arenas is a punk, Wilbon's a punk and anyone that has even ONE good thing to say about this punk criminal is a punk. Punk-bee-otches like Arenas, Sean Taylor from the Redskins, Tiger Woods, any of them that took one of the best positions in life anyone on planet Earth can have and turned it into criminal/punk activity is a moron and certainly they are all people that no one should have any respect or notions of redemption for. Vick, Dexter Manley, Vince Young, there are literally hundreds of them. Common theme to all this? Mike Wilbon calls Michael Phelpps, the skinny white-kid 7-gold medal winner in the Olympics out for being a bad example for smoking pot.

But Arenas, Taylor, Vick and company are WILBON'S heros, the sappy racist that Wilbon is. The sympathetic tilt toward criminals that are black is breathtaking. Farewell, Arenas. May you one day rest in pieces.

Posted by: JamesChristian | December 18, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

It sure looks like Wizards' owners and management are down-right stupid when it comes to dealing with player contracts.

Even with the absolutely unbelievable contracts given to Juwan Howard and Gilbert Arenas, the team has been a total failure.
The Wiz are the laughing stock of the league.

The fans sure look stupid paying a premium to see a bunch of street players lose as if they like it.

Posted by: numbersch13 | December 18, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Gilbert, thanks for the memories. I have frequently traveled throughout this country. Whenever I mentioned Washington, DC, people would go on and on about Gilbert Arenas. He was "the face of the franchise." Gilbert drew fans to the Verizon Center and ratings to Comcast. He was OUR LeBron.

Outside of his stupid locker room incident he was genuinely a good [though misdirected] guy.

This is the time to praise the man. We won't see another like him anytime soon.

Posted by: musicmanjr | December 18, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Big cancer out, little cancer in. For tghose thinking it couldn't get worse than GILBERT, it didn't, but not by much. At least we're out of that obscene contract.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Best luck to Gil. He made a few dumb mistakes, but he's still a good guy, and he was headed for greatness until he hurt his knee. He gave us a lot of thrills over the years.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | December 18, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Best of luck to Gil for the memories, but the Wiz needed to part ways and this gives him a fresh start on a contender where he isn't expected to carry the team. The salary cap savings and years is huge for a rebuilding team. Lewis will be easier to move in 2012 when teams have an expiring contract. The Arenas contract was always going to hold back the franchise from rebuilding and he was not going to ever regain his preinjury form. This was addition by subtraction and there will no longer be any lingering memories in the locker room.

Even if the Wiz get worse this year and only win 20 games, it gives them a better chance of hitting it big in the lottery and getting a top young player like in the draft to add to Wall.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 18, 2010 11:23 PM | Report abuse

And the last of the so-called Big 3 is gone. 4 years ago this franchise looked to have a promising future. How things have changed. They're one of the worst teams in the league and the fans have been reduced to getting excited about clearing cap space.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 18, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

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Good line there about clearing cap space.

Speaking of which, before the season started I said they should trade Gilbert for a bag of chips. Now I wish they had.

Posted by: shovetheplanet | December 18, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to Gil.

Maybe it was time, maybe it wasn't.

But, it's clear that Gil brought this franchise back.

The Wiz were popular with Jordan, but not that good. Nothing was more exciting than the couple of seasons that Gil led the Wiz to the playoffs. For anybody in the building when the Wiz closed out the Bulls in Round 1, that place was beyond electric. Would've never happened without Arenas.

Stay healthy, Gil, and good luck. You'll always have fans in DC.

Posted by: machooz | December 19, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

bad trade bad gm. grunfeld giving syderatto a run for their money. the bald faced lies from leonsis and grunfeld make things worse.

Posted by: PindarPushkin | December 19, 2010 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dlts2041 | December 19, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

The only deal that would be good for the Wizards, and its duped fans, is the disestablishment of the whole team.

Remember ... never an NBA title with that sissy name.

Posted by: slipuvalad | December 19, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Lewis was probably the best the Wizards could do considering the Arenas contract. Lewis is a short-term patch. Maybe the Wiz will get lucky in the draft lottery again and be able to really rebuild.

Posted by: pjohn2 | December 19, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Good luck Gil!!! You're leaving DC an amazing legacy. Hope you'll be happy in Orlando, playing the otherworldly basketball you were put in this world to play.
Peace

Posted by: TheStones1968 | December 20, 2010 1:20 AM | Report abuse

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