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Posted at 2:59 PM ET, 01/12/2011

Andray Blatche doubtful against Minnesota with right shoulder sprain

By Michael Lee

Andray Blatche was voted best-dressed Wizard on Tuesday by the fans in attendance at Verizon Center, as he walked into the arena before the Sacramento Kings game wearing a red sweater, with a black skull cap, scarf and tie. He won over the crowd when he lifted his pant leg and revealed his coordinating skills, with a pair of red and black striped socks.


First I lose my headband, now this. (REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst)

Blatche is hoping that he won't have wear similar attire during games over the next few days after suffering a mild right shoulder sprain in the fourth quarter of the Wizards' bizarre 136-133 overtime victory. Blatche didn't participate in Wednesday's brief practice, as the team prepared for Minnesota. He is listed as day-to-day and Rashard Lewis would likely get the start at power forward, with Al Thornton at small forward..

After the game, Blatche said he was hoping that he would wake up and feel better. But as he headed out of the arena, Blatche said, "It was worse. I couldn't sleep at night. I couldn't lay comfortably. A lot of pain."

He will receive some treatment later in the evening, but was optimistic that he wouldn't be out long, if at all. "If I'm able to get some rotation in it, I'm going to try to play," he said, "but if not, then I'll sit out and, hopefully, the younger guys step up and get us a road win."

Blatche had his first double-double of the calendar year, with 16 points and 13 rebounds, against the Kings. He fought on the floor in the closing seconds for a loose ball with Kings guard Jermaine Taylor -- a former Wizards second-round pick traded to Houston for cash in 2009. Taylor yanked the ball and brought Blatche over him in the process. "I had the ball. I wouldn't let go. That was a key rebound for us," Blatche said. "I felt a pop. I just couldn't move it."

Blatche went to the bench to get checked by head athletic trainer Eric Waters, but returned to participate in the jump ball, feeling that he could easily win the tip against the 6-foot-4 Taylor. He won the tip, but paid the price as he immediately grabbed his shoulder after knocking the ball to a teammate. "Sharp pain. It was the worst pain I felt all season. Even with my knee," said Blatche, who missed two games with a sore left knee last month.

Lewis understood the challenge that comes if Blatche is unable to play, since he would have to defend Kevin Love, the league's leading rebounder at 15.8 per game who has recorded 25 consecutive double-doubles. "He's going to be a handful," Lewis said. "He has a knack for the ball. He's not an athletic guy or can jump high, but he knows how to use his body very well. He knows how to maneuver around the basket and get to the ball. He's just a guy that knows how to use his lower body."

By Michael Lee  | January 12, 2011; 2:59 PM ET
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still hoping that we dont see much of yi, and we see more of booker. yi is complete garbage, not really good at anything and hes softer than a pillow.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | January 12, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

This sadly reminds me a lot of Jamison's preseason injury last year. When does the MRI occur? I certainly don't want AB to pull a Mike Miller and try to play in the game if he's got a sprain.

Remember Miami last year?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/05/AR2009110504529.html

Posted by: audacitea | January 12, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

im sure the wizards medical staff will make him return too soon. wiz have one of the worst medical staffs imo.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | January 12, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

You have to love that Saunders made AB go back out and do the jump ball. AB won the tip but then The Stooges act started.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | January 12, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"You have to love that Saunders made AB go back out and do the jump ball. "

If he hadn't gone out for the jump, he wouldn't have been allowed back into the game later and, at that point, they didn't know if he was hurt badly enough that they had to pull him because they didn't have time to look him over. If his arm was in too much pain for him go back out, then he should have said something to the trainer. Beyond that, if his arm was in that much pain, then maybe he shouldn't have reached for the the jump ball with his injured arm.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 12, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I do not mind if he is out for a week or two as long us he is not coming back with 10 more punds.

Posted by: gtefferra | January 12, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Pvt. Pyle could use a couple of days off.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 12, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Doesn't matter much with Blatche having to miss a game or 2. Every time I see that Harlem Globetrotters promo, I wonder if the'll be playing against the Wizards. I think they could win that one!

Posted by: zack9633 | January 12, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

still hoping that we dont see much of yi, and we see more of booker. yi is complete garbage, not really good at anything and hes softer than a pillow.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | January 12, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I think Books and Seraphin might be able to scrap with Love, their lack of "skills" and surplus of toughness and shoulders,elbows and butt should give Lover a workout.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 12, 2011 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Last season Blatche went for 33/13 (63%FG) against AlJeff(18/7) and KLove (13/13). What a difference a year makes.

Posted by: divi3 | January 12, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Blatche went to the bench to get checked by head athletic trainer Eric Waters, but returned to participate in the jump ball, feeling that he could easily win the tip against the 6-foot-4 Taylor. He won the tip, but paid the price as he immediately grabbed his shoulder after knocking the ball to a teammate.

I know some of you believe that if a person doesn't watch the games, they don't have a clue and shouldn't have an opinion?

A person doesn't have to watch the game when he reads the above statement to form an opinion about the Wizards medical staff considering all of the other misdiagnosed injuries like Wall and Howard to understand the Wizards have an awful medical staff.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Spoelstra adjustments; An extra emphasis on defense, a switch of starting point guards and tweaking the rotation helped put the Heat on pace for a big if not epic season.

but a coach really doesn't matter if a team wins or losses?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Dont you have to have a muscle to have a sprain???? Its not adding up :)

Posted by: cm88 | January 12, 2011 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I guess I would have had to watch the
LA 112-Clev 57 game and not just look at the score or the stats to understand Clev sucked last night?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

funny how everyone wants to hate lebron now. i hated him since wiz vs cavs playoffs and how the nba cheated for cavs over and over to make their poster child lebron james advance in the playoffs. also hated the fact lebron flopped, double drippled, cryed and whined, and cheated his way past the wizards. oh yea, and disrespecing arenas on the foul line (even though he shoulda made it). just saying

Posted by: skinsfan09 | January 12, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Skinsfan08:
Echoing your sentiment, one of my favorite signs at the Wizards-Heat game here was "D.C. hated Lebron before it was cool"

Posted by: audacitea | January 12, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Skinsfan08:
Echoing your sentiment, one of my favorite signs at the Wizards-Heat game here was "D.C. hated Lebron before it was cool"

Posted by: audacitea | January 12, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

@audacitea

EXACTLY. its not because im a "hater", hes a great player, he just is self absorbed and has no respect for the game. but hes david sterns cash cow. so at least stern likes him and protects him.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | January 12, 2011 5:24 PM | Report abuse

@Kalo_ama: You have a point, but I think for Blatche to use his left hand on the jump probably would have been difficult, because then he would have had to jump off the right leg. Most right-handed players can jump significantly higher with the right arm-left leg combination, because they practice that over and over those muscles become stronger than the opposite side. (For lefties, the reverse is true--how many times have you ever seen Lamar Odom dunk right-handed?)

I give Blatche credit for going out there at all. Shoulder sprains are really, really painful. People continually trash him for supposed lack of effort, but I think it's really unfair.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | January 12, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The curse is in full effect. Dray finally has a good game and now hurts his shoulder, right when we have to go up against Minny's good frontcourt aiming for our 1st road win.

If Dray is out then I wouldnt start Thorton. I would like to keep Shard at the 3. I dont think we should not only have 1 different guy out of the lineup but 2 by not having our starting 3 in Shard. I think we should keep Shard at the 3 and start Booker for this game

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 12, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

How is it that the Wiz could have another "Heat" meltdown at the end of another game? Is it that hard to practice inbounds plays and to not foul at the end of a game when up by 5 or 6 points, especially at the 3 point line?

While I'm at it, if Walton can help Hibbert and Ewing can help Howard why can't we get Hakeem to help McGee (and Blache), with similar styles but a huge gap in fundamentals and court smarts. We need someone legit to coach up the bigs.

Posted by: kikowashington | January 12, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

kikowashington

The Wizards organization under Ernie believes you draft big man without any experience (AB and JM) and let them learn on their own...if they really want to get better then it's on them...just like a player should evaluate his own injury and figure out when he is ready to come back?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Dag..really Jamison?

"It can't be any worse than this. If it is, someone will have to help me because I don't know how much of this I can take," said Antawn Jamison, who had six points. "This by far is rock-bottom. It's definitely by far one of the most embarrassing moments that I've been a part of as far as basketball."

Posted by: ptp09 | January 12, 2011 6:45 PM | Report abuse

kikowashington, I'm pretty sure that I saw some footage of Hakeem working with Howard this summer, as well. There are a ton of vets who McGee could work with during the offseason, but question is whether or not McGee wants to be great.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | January 12, 2011 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"While I'm at it, if Walton can help Hibbert and Ewing can help Howard why can't we get Hakeem to help McGee (and Blache), with similar styles but a huge gap in fundamentals and court smarts. We need someone legit to coach up the bigs.Posted by: kikowashington"

I just want to point something out that has been pointed out before. Walton worked with Hibbert for only a short period this summer, and it was mainly about being aggressive. Hibbert also lost a bunch of weight and got his exercise-induced asthma under control (probably bigger factors in his improvement). Another factor in Hibbert's productivity is his central role as a passer in Indy's offense. In other words, he has a skill that is particularly useful to his team.

About Howard: have you seen him develop a 'go to' move yet? Like those used by Ewing and Olajuwon to remain productive as their athletic ability waned? I haven't either. Since he's had all this coaching from HoF centers, is he impervious to it? Or is he waiting for the playoffs to reveal it to an anxious public?

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

About basketball smarts -- can you really teach that? Certainly coaching and experience play a role, but haven't you noticed that some players just seem to play a headier game than others? Not mistake-free, because basketball involves a certain amount of risk, and you don't want players to stop taking chances (you just want them to take better chances, with a higher rate of success). Do you think some players just have a superior foundational education in fundamentals, and that's the difference? Is it a question of attitude? Willingness to accept coaching?

I honestly don't know. But you can sure see the difference between Player X and Player Y on an NBA court any evening. And so can their coaches.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

But you can sure see the difference between Player X and Player Y on an NBA court any evening.

I'm not sure what you see if you don't think NY would start ahead of Keith Bogans and Kyle Korver.

Posted by: divi3 | January 12, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

About basketball smarts -- can you really teach that?

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

Could Dean Smith teach that?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Can you teach smarts? Some would say that it starts with fundamentals and talent - and you onnly draft or trade for smart players. Combine the 3 with the right coach and GM who can put the right players together (chemistry) with the right system for success and you have a chance...

Do we have fundamentally sound, smart and talented players who have team chemistry for our "system." True, they need time but I question whether they "get it" based on comments read about stats, playing style preference,, etc. The desire to do what is necessary to achieve - really achive - doesn't appear to be there.

Losing becomes a slippery slope for an organization (as us DC fans know). I hope Ted nips it by instilling leadership - getting the right teachers who command respect per their experience and talent.

Posted by: kikowashington | January 12, 2011 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"About Howard: have you seen him develop a 'go to' move yet? Like those used by Ewing and Olajuwon to remain productive as their athletic ability waned? I haven't either. Since he's had all this coaching from HoF centers, is he impervious to it? Or is he waiting for the playoffs to reveal it to an anxious public?"

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 7:10 PM

Not really a valid example, I don't think. First of all, both Ewing and Dream had go-to moves well before their athleticism waned. And even with go-to moves, their play fell off as their bodies broke down. As for Howard, he may not have a specific "go-to" move, but there's no question that he does, in fact, have moves now, something he didn't have when he first came into the NBA. He's a much better offensive player now than he was as recently as 2 years ago. It's not even debatable.

Now, all that being said . . . You can teach skills and knowledge, but in order to do so the student has to be both willing and able to learn, and not everyone is. If the player isn't willing to put in the time, energy, and attention to learn and get better then the best teacher in the world isn't likely to get anywhere with them. When talking about players who play a "headier game" (Battier, Grant Hill, Ginobili, etc.)you're still talking about learned, reinforced behavior. The difference is, they learned most of that stuff decades ago, probably starting when they were barely into their teens, and have spent the intervening years expanding and perfecting that knowledge until it becomes second nature. It's foundational learning. You can't really teach those kind of bball smarts to players in the NBA because by the time they get into the league it's too late. There's not enough time for them to absorb all those lessons at the fundamental level that a guy like Ginobili has been doing since he was a kid. Moreover, before you could even start teaching them, you'd first have to undo all the years of bad (or no) teaching to even create a foundation to build on.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 12, 2011 8:23 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not sure what you see if you don't think NY would start ahead of Keith Bogans and Kyle Korver.Posted by: divi3"

Well, Tom Thibodeau doesn't always start the best athlete. Don't forget he has 3 SGs, including Ronnie Brewer, and plays them all (some at the SF position part of the time). With Derrick Rose carrying the bulk of the scoring burden, he can afford to play someone like Bogans for superior defense and outside shooting. But the other two bring something different to the table and he uses them too.

So far this season:
Bogans: 37 games, 37 starts, 17.7 minutes
Korver: 37 games, 0 starts, 21.1 minutes
Ron Brewer: 37 games, 1 start, 23 minutes

So if Nick were as good as you think he is (which is questionable), he might start, or he might not. They have a real coach in Chicago, so fan input is not primary.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 8:28 PM | Report abuse

i hope he recovers......................................................................................................................................so we can trade him for a large pizza and ginger ale.

Posted by: mrhney03 | January 12, 2011 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, BF78, you always post the most insightful commentary based on your ability to decifer box scores without watching games.

Maybe you should read the quotes and articles that state we are a rebuilding team that will require patience and time. This after the former core put together made the playoffs 4 seasons in a row. You are just a negative ignoranous.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 12, 2011 9:05 PM | Report abuse

he can afford to play someone like Bogans for superior defense and outside shooting

Bogans is averaging 3pts/game. 30%3PT

But the other two bring something different to the table and he uses them too.

Indeed they do, the reason NY would start is because he's shooting/scoring much better than Korver (who cant defend) and he can light it up from beyond the arc whereas Brewer(who can defend) has taken 9 three's all season.

The Bulls SG minutes are divided up like they are exactly because they dont have a guy who can defend, score, and hit 3s. Young is doing all three, and could make the Bulls better for sure

Posted by: divi3 | January 12, 2011 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Another outing by H for the Dakota Wizards.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20110112/TULDAK/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp2021000155

Played 27 minutes, 7 rebounds, 6 points, 1 block. A plus 6 rating.

Posted by: PostSubscriber | January 12, 2011 9:16 PM | Report abuse

"The Bulls SG minutes are divided up like they are exactly because they dont have a guy who can defend, score, and hit 3s. Young is doing all three, and could make the Bulls better for sure.Posted by: divi3"

We know Nick is an improved defender, but as good as Bogans? We know he is an improved 3 point shooter, but as good as Korver? We know he is an improved scorer, but is he the open-court force that Brewer is?

I'd answer no to all the above. I think Bogans starts at present for the same reason that Hinrich started alongside Rose last season -- journeyman or no, he brings maturity and consistency to the offense. Rose needs less of it than he did last year. But maturity and consistency aren't what we think of when we thing of the wonderfully talented Nick Young.

So I think you overrate Nick the same way you overrate Javale.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Turns out that Thibodeau thinks neither Brewer nor Bogans are giving them enough scoring. So they're reportedly in the market for a scoring 2 guard. Nick Young?

Wonder what they'd be willing to give up...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

So they're reportedly in the market for a scoring 2 guard. Nick Young?

Wonder what they'd be willing to give up...

Posted by: Samson151


The only consistant scoring this team has is NY, why in the H would you trade him to Chicago? At some point you have to pay your players rather than having a payroll compared to the Clippers.

Posted by: zack9633 | January 12, 2011 10:23 PM | Report abuse

About basketball smarts -- can you really teach that?

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Larry,

Could Dean Smith teach that?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 12, 2011 7:22 PM

BF78,

I don't know what these boys are thinking sometimes.

You know John Wooden left no stones unturned. His coaching and teachings went all the way to the way his players wore ther socks, for LOL.

And my boy Kal, Kal, Kal, Kal, you say them boys stop learning BBall smarts by the time they make it to the Pros. FOR REAL????

BF78, what is up with these smart fellows?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 12, 2011 11:51 PM | Report abuse

"The only consistant scoring this team has is NY, why in the H would you trade him to Chicago? Posted by: zack9633"

Depends on what's offered. Draft choices count, too. Season to date, Nick's averaging 15.9 points over 28 minutes, 46.2% FG, 41% 3's, 2.4 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.3 TOs, 2.2 fouls... good numbers but far from untradeable, wouldn't you agree?

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 11:55 PM | Report abuse

"Larry,Could Dean Smith teach that?
Posted by: bulletsfan78
"BF78,I don't know what these boys are thinking sometimes.You know John Wooden left no stones unturned. His coaching and teachings went all the way to the way his players wore ther socks, for LOL.And my boy Kal, Kal, Kal, Kal, you say them boys stop learning BBall smarts by the time they make it to the Pros. FOR REAL????
BF78, what is up with these smart fellows?
LarryInClintonMD."

I think Larry and bf78 are genuine soulmates.

Wouldn't dream of interrupting their reverie.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and by the way, RP mentioned he had to jet for his poker game. Somebody must have bluffed the smarts off that boy. Wow!

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 13, 2011 12:01 AM | Report abuse

"Not really a valid example, I don't think. First of all, both Ewing and Dream had go-to moves well before their athleticism waned. And even with go-to moves, their play fell off as their bodies broke down. As for Howard, he may not have a specific "go-to" move, but there's no question that he does, in fact, have moves now, something he didn't have when he first came into the NBA. He's a much better offensive player now than he was as recently as 2 years ago. It's not even debatable. posted by kalorama"

Which leaves me wondering why, after 7 NBA seasons, 524 games, and all that coaching, he's still an unfinished product offensively -- compared to Ewing and Olajuwon, for instance.

Not that he hasn't improved -- he's averaging 21 points a game, so obviously he's doing something right -- but I'm wondering why he isn't better.

And as always with big men, I wonder why he's shooting 57% at the FT line.

It's an academic exercise, of course, with a player as dominant as Howard.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Not that he hasn't improved -- he's averaging 21 points a game, so obviously he's doing something right -- but I'm wondering why he isn't better.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

How know without Ewing being there he could be worse...

All I know is the Wizards have never had a big man on the bench since Ernie fired Patrick Ewing 2 months into the job and replaced him with 6-8 Phil Hubbard...

and everyone complains that the Wizards big men don't play their positions the right way?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 13, 2011 1:06 AM | Report abuse

You know John Wooden left no stones unturned. His coaching and teachings went all the way to the way his players wore ther socks, for LOL.

And my boy Kal, Kal, Kal, Kal, you say them boys stop learning BBall smarts by the time they make it to the Pros. FOR REAL????

BF78, what is up with these smart fellows?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 12, 2011 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure if you asked Bill Walton and Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr they would tell you John just stood there and told them if they wanted to get better they better do it on their own and I'm sure he pulled them as soon as either of them made a mistake and ran right to the press to complain why he could win more games?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 13, 2011 1:10 AM | Report abuse

You know John Wooden left no stones unturned. His coaching and teachings went all the way to the way his players wore ther socks, for LOL.

And my boy Kal, Kal, Kal, Kal, you say them boys stop learning BBall smarts by the time they make it to the Pros. FOR REAL????

BF78, what is up with these smart fellows?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 12, 2011 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure if you asked Bill Walton and Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr they would tell you John just stood there and told them if they wanted to get better they better do it on their own and I'm sure he pulled them as soon as either of them made a mistake and ran right to the press to complain why he could win more games?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 13, 2011 1:12 AM | Report abuse

I think Larry and bf78 are genuine soulmates.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 12, 2011 11:58 PM | Report abuse

I respect Larry since when we disagree he will let me know why without calling me names.

I know since Larry is a TarHell he would understand the importance of coaching and realizes that a coach has as much to do with the outcome of the game as the players do.

I understand that you and a few others don't want Flip to take any blame for the Wizards losses...it's the players but when I post Ernie picked these players I read...well they were all late 1st round picks?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 13, 2011 1:23 AM | Report abuse

"Not that he hasn't improved -- he's averaging 21 points a game, so obviously he's doing something right -- but I'm wondering why he isn't better."

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 12:07 AM

Better than what? He's better than he used to be, without question. And you just admitted he's improved. Where I come from, "improved" means "better." Really not sure what your argument here is. If your complaint is that he's not as good as Hakeem or Patrick well . . . I think I already covered that. Because he started too late, insofar as learning the fundamentals of offensive post play. He's trying to learn stuff now in his 20s that most great players start learning in their early teens. That alone puts a cap on his ceiling for improvement. Someone can pick up a violin for the first time at 25 and learn to play, but he's never going to become a concertmaster because that takes decades of fundamental study, and by the time he picks up it up, he's already about a decade and a half behind the pace. Same logic applies here.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 13, 2011 3:06 AM | Report abuse

Yep, pointing out that there is a lot of teaching going on from coaches in college is a real revelation. I mean, who knew? Has nothing to do with the topic of coaching fundamentals in the pros and the many dynamics that are clearly different.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 13, 2011 3:44 AM | Report abuse

Yep, pointing out that there is a lot of teaching going on from coaches in college is a real revelation. I mean, who knew? Has nothing to do with the topic of coaching fundamentals in the pros and the many dynamics that are clearly different.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 13, 2011 3:45 AM | Report abuse

Depends on what's offered. Draft choices count, too. Season to date, Nick's averaging 15.9 points over 28 minutes, 46.2% FG, 41% 3's, 2.4 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.7 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.3 TOs, 2.2 fouls... good numbers but far from untradeable, wouldn't you agree?

Posted by: Samson151

Stocking up on draft picks is one thing but trading players that show promise in contract year says you're trying to be a farm team for the league. Besides, don't we already have multiple draft pick from previous fire sale?

Posted by: zack9633 | January 13, 2011 6:39 AM | Report abuse

"If your complaint is that he's not as good as Hakeem or Patrick well . . . I think I already covered that. Because he started too late, insofar as learning the fundamentals of offensive post play. He's trying to learn stuff now in his 20s that most great players start learning in their early teens. That alone puts a cap on his ceiling for improvement. Someone can pick up a violin for the first time at 25 and learn to play, but he's never going to become a concertmaster because that takes decades of fundamental study, and by the time he picks up it up, he's already about a decade and a half behind the pace." posted by kalo_rama"

Not really a complaint or an argument. Just thinking out loud about how players become what they are. And how much we can expect that to change over progressive seasons of NBA play.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Draft I'd like Terrence Jones & Jordan Williams. That would be a good draft.

Posted by: Darnell1 | January 13, 2011 7:01 AM | Report abuse

"Stocking up on draft picks is one thing but trading players that show promise in contract year says you're trying to be a farm team for the league. posted by zack9633"

I don't think any owner sets out to become a farm team for the rest of the NBA. Nothing in Leonsis' history would suggest that, anyway. He wants a winner.

So presumably if the Wiz traded a player like Nick, who they drafted and helped develop into the player he is today, what would they need to get in return? He'll be 26 in the spring, will have completed his 4th full season. For the sake of discussion, exclude salary and contract dumps like we saw last year --

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 7:07 AM | Report abuse

"I respect Larry since when we disagree he will let me know why without calling me names.posted by bulletsfan78"

Whereas you on the other hand...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 7:09 AM | Report abuse

"I'm sure if you asked Bill Walton and Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor Jr they would tell you John just stood there and told them if they wanted to get better they better do it on their own and I'm sure he pulled them as soon as either of them made a mistake and ran right to the press to complain why he could win more games?Posted by: bulletsfan78"

I'd say we're firmly in Straw Man Heaven with the above. This sort of post is just sophisticated bait to get a response.

The work of a master baiter...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 13, 2011 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Can we trade Blatche? No, for real, can we trade Blatche?!?!?

Posted by: carterm1 | January 13, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Blatche's fall was a nasty one. Let's hope he heals quickly. Wizards need to win some on the road!!

Posted by: VerizonCenterResident | January 13, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

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