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Posted at 10:51 AM ET, 01/ 5/2011

JaVale McGee excited about dunk contest

By Gene Wang

Even though reports began surfacing last night that JaVale McGee was among those scheduled to participate in the NBA dunk contest, the Wizards center confirmed it himself this morning with a Tweet that read: "3 big men in the dunk contest... #Priceless... really excited !!!!"

McGee will be one of four players to take part in the event as part of All-Star Weekend. His competitors are the Clippers' Blake Griffin, Milwaukee's Brandon Jennings and the Thunder's Serge Ibaka.

McGee will have his hands full contending with Griffin, who has become an Internet sensation with his high-flying dunks. Griffin also has to be considered a heavy favorite in light of the contest taking place at Staples Center, his home court, on Feb. 19.

McGee, however, has had his share of highlight reel dunks that have underscored uncommon athletic ability for a 7-footer. He is averaging 9.2 points and 8.3 rebounds per game this season.

By Gene Wang  | January 5, 2011; 10:51 AM ET
Categories:  JaVale McGee  
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Comments

Can't say I'm filled with anticipation to watch a guy with a 7' 6" wingspan dunk.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

McGee's stat's, 9.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg, and 27.2 mpg. With a little more faith by Flip especially down the stretches in games, Javale McGee could easily be averaging a double double, I think.

Just a bit more faith and consistency in playing time and you have a double double center.

You see guys what a little more good coaching can achieve.

My father always said to me, "Son, you can get a lot more with honey than you can with vinegar." But Flip likes the vineger approach with McGee.

However, I would not be surprised to see some say that Flip is right to use that approach with young players. Some are already giving him credit for Young's improved play with that approach.

All in all though with McGee, would you think that Odom might agree that McGee's play so far this season is pretty impressive for him just being a Run and Jump guy???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 5, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

On the last thread Gilbert said that he had to change his defensive approach from here in that here they emphasized keeping people from driving the lane.

What??? I see no evidence that they keep people from driving the lane here.

That said though I do notice that they give room out on the perimeter to cut off the driving option, but it did not work when he was here.

In Orlando he was being rewarded for his defense because there he says they emphasize actually getting up on your man and defending him. No scheisse.

They do that because they have Howard, but invariably it leads to good defense on both accounts.

At 6'3", it might be relevant to note that with that approach he takes playing time away from Nelson from a defensive perspective right now. If he starts scoring again on top of it, all I can say is wow. Wow!

A Gilbert who can play D' and score. Wow!

Unimaginable here by many. An impossibility some might say. Go figure that. Or as my father says, "Now run and tell that."

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 5, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

A Gilbert who can play D' and score. Wow!

Unimaginable here by many. An impossibility some might say. Go figure that. Or as my father says, "Now run and tell that."

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 5, 2011 11:34 AM | Report abuse

seems like they have a solid defensive philosophy and an "eraser" in the paint to clean up defensive mistakes. two of many things the wizards lack.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Apparently Kalorama only wants to watch short people dunk at the dunk contest. Having centers in the contest is an old tradition and has made for some of the best dunk contests in history. Dwight Howard has almost the same wingspan as McGee but I don't recall ever seeing Kalorama whine about him competing.

Some people are just miserable and try to find things to complain about all day long on a message board.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 5, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Some people are just miserable and try to find things to complain about all day long on a message board."

Out of the mouths of babes. Hey, why don't you tell us some more about how Etan Thomas is an evil racist hate-monger? That's always good for a laugh.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I honestly didn't enjoy Dwight Howard being in the dunk contest very much either.

He's 7'0" damn near...he can almost dunk on his toes probably.

Dunk contests are more exciting with Guards/Fowards.

Just my opinion though.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

McGee's stat's, 9.2 ppg, 8.3 rpg, and 27.2 mpg. With a little more faith by Flip especially down the stretches in games, Javale McGee could easily be averaging a double double, I think.

Just a bit more faith and consistency in playing time and you have a double double center.

You see guys what a little more good coaching can achieve.

My father always said to me, "Son, you can get a lot more with honey than you can with vinegar." But Flip likes the vineger approach with McGee.

However, I would not be surprised to see some say that Flip is right to use that approach with young players. Some are already giving him credit for Young's improved play with that approach.

All in all though with McGee, would you think that Odom might agree that McGee's play so far this season is pretty impressive for him just being a Run and Jump guy???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 5, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

So...Nick credits Flip for his improved play. Obviously you aren't buying that. Nick gets better under Flip and his terrible coaching staff that can't develop players...so what does that mean...did he improve HIMSELF?

I can't wait to see you try to write one of those paragraphed novels to pull yourself out of this one...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

But to claim that Leonsis ever said this year was going to be "tough times" when talking about selling tickets in the preseason, well you are out of your damn mind. Ted never said anything like that.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 5, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

figured I'd offer some material for you to spin doctor

http://www.tedstake.com/2010/10/28/why-are-people-afraid-to-say-the-term-rebuilding/

http://www.tedstake.com/2010/06/22/not-loathe-to-do-anything-an-open-note-to-wizards-fans/

Posted by: crs-one | January 5, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Seems like all over the web reporters are commenting on the "bad habits from the tenure in Washington"...seems like Eddie Jordan and possibly Flip have little respect around the league. But, if Gil is playing "solid" defense now and Flip is known as a defensive coach...you make the call.

Blake is a GREAT in game dunker...I don't see much creativity there. I'd like to see Nick Young & Brandon Jennings.

Posted by: Gooddad | January 5, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I honestly didn't enjoy Dwight Howard being in the dunk contest very much either.

He's 7'0" damn near...he can almost dunk on his toes probably.

Dunk contests are more exciting with Guards/Fowards.

Just my opinion though.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

height has something to do with it but it's all about the hops. VC pulled off some of the most amazing dunks known to man back when he beat Stevie Franchise in the dunk off. The Franchise is 4 - 5 inches shorter than VC and threw down some ridiculous dunks
and had a 44 inch vert measured on one dunk. VC one because he still was out jumping steve and doing more in the air with his dunks. I think Javale will be able to do things that jennings couldn't dream of. he's on a higher level than DH12 when it comes to flexibility and "acrobatics" he should be exponentially more entertaining than DH12 in the dunk contest. He's got in-game dunks better than dwight's dunk contest dunks.

BTW those of yall that love the shorter guys take a look back a coupla yrs at Nate Dog winning the contest after 20 odd missed dunks.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

height has something to do with it but it's all about the hops. VC pulled off some of the most amazing dunks known to man back when he beat Stevie Franchise in the dunk off. The Franchise is 4 - 5 inches shorter than VC and threw down some ridiculous dunks
and had a 44 inch vert measured on one dunk. VC one because he still was out jumping steve and doing more in the air with his dunks. I think Javale will be able to do things that jennings couldn't dream of. he's on a higher level than DH12 when it comes to flexibility and "acrobatics" he should be exponentially more entertaining than DH12 in the dunk contest. He's got in-game dunks better than dwight's dunk contest dunks.

BTW those of yall that love the shorter guys take a look back a coupla yrs at Nate Dog winning the contest after 20 odd missed dunks.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh I agree completely...I'm curious to see what JaVale can do...but Ibaka? Not so much...almost not as much with Blake...he's more of a rim attacker...don't see to much creativity in him...I might be wrong though.

Yeah Nate is an EXTREME exception. But Stevie keeping up with VC was a lot more fun that D12 doing a basic two hand dunk on a 12 foot court.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I honestly didn't enjoy Dwight Howard being in the dunk contest very much either.

Better Dwight than Nate. I'll take anyone that doesn't need a dozen attempts to make a dunk.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 5, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

He has to be the biggest ever to be in the dunk contest. Sad that he's excited about this, but his team sucks.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | January 5, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

He has to be the biggest ever to be in the dunk contest. Sad that he's excited about this, but his team sucks.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1

I know, these guys have the nerve to feel good about something??? What a jerk!!

Posted by: gmac78 | January 5, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

So...Nick credits Flip for his improved play. Obviously you aren't buying that. Nick gets better under Flip and his terrible coaching staff that can't develop players...so what does that mean...did he improve HIMSELF?

I can't wait to see you try to write one of those paragraphed novels to pull yourself out of this one...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

you and me are cool. all is well. But NY didn't "credit" anyone for anything. He said Flip was tough luv and that he struggled initially, but he didn't attribute anything to one person or method. While one could say that NY has done what he's done BECAUSE of Flip Saunders since it happened under Flip's watch. Others might say that there isn't much difference between the NY of today and the NY of last yr except for extended minutes due mostly to injury and trades.
I personally think that it's 50/50 NY had a lot of the game he shows now, last yr. I remember some of us clamoring for Flip to give NY the "Rip treatment" he spoke of in the preseason and cut some of hinrich.....i mean mike miller's mins. Instead NY had the shortest leash of any player (even McGee). I think it drove NY to become a better player and work harder in the offseason and in practice. but i think it was something Gil said to him that made him wanna make sure coach has no choice but to play him. In fact NY wasn't much in Flip's plans this yr. I can remember a certain recently departed combo guard faking an injury just to get the kid some tick. But i guess it was all part of Flip's master plan.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

...those paragraphed novels to pull yourself out of this one...

Very good SDMDTSU, very good. Great sense of humor on that one and good point as well.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 5, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Magee is second in the NBA in blocks and would be first if he played another 4-5 minutes a game

Posted by: nativedc | January 5, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

you and me are cool. all is well. But NY didn't "credit" anyone for anything. He said Flip was tough luv and that he struggled initially, but he didn't attribute anything to one person or method. While one could say that NY has done what he's done BECAUSE of Flip Saunders since it happened under Flip's watch. Others might say that there isn't much difference between the NY of today and the NY of last yr except for extended minutes due mostly to injury and trades.
I personally think that it's 50/50 NY had a lot of the game he shows now, last yr. I remember some of us clamoring for Flip to give NY the "Rip treatment" he spoke of in the preseason and cut some of hinrich.....i mean mike miller's mins. Instead NY had the shortest leash of any player (even McGee). I think it drove NY to become a better player and work harder in the offseason and in practice. but i think it was something Gil said to him that made him wanna make sure coach has no choice but to play him. In fact NY wasn't much in Flip's plans this yr. I can remember a certain recently departed combo guard faking an injury just to get the kid some tick. But i guess it was all part of Flip's master plan.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Fair enough he didn't credit him...but I see a BIG difference between Nick this year and last year.

And Gil has been on the team since he was a rookie. He just told him this year to make sure he stays on the court? Nah man. I'm not buying that.

Nick was in the plans last year but didn't show what he's showing now. That's why he's on the court.

He's not overdribbling, settling for bad jumpers (even the ones he makes), he's going to the rim.

I can't remember seeing Nick get as many dunks as he is this season. He's too athletic NOT to get to the basket. The things Flip said he wanted to see...I'm seeing some of them...but either way...I guess Nick took it upon HIMSELF to be better.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

"I honestly didn't enjoy Dwight Howard being in the dunk contest very much either."

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:00 PM

Same here. Unlike the 3-point shootout--which is a pure skills competition--dunks are about style, and most big men dunk really have a whole lot of style/flair to their dunks. They basically just jump real high and throw it down hard. Howard accessorized his presentation with the phone booth and cape, but the dunks themselves weren't all that noteworthy to me.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

figured I'd offer some material for you to spin doctor

crs-one

http://www.tedstake.com/2010/06/22/not-loathe-to-do-anything-an-open-note-to-wizards-fans/

Look at LA, at San Antonio, at Houston, at Chicago, Detroit, Boston, Miami. Seven teams have won championships in the last 20 years. Each has foundational players that were brought into the team via the draft. That drafted player has been the identity of the team, the leader of the team, and for the most part, the team’s best player.

LA got both Kobe and Pau through trades
BOS got KG and Allen through trades
Mia got Shaq through a trade

The other teams made some great draft picks which brings me back to one of the biggest problems the Wizard have which is Ernie...who (other then Wall)hasn't made a great draft pick (I could live with NY as a 6th man)in 7 years?

So, is Ted telling us he will need the top pick for the next 4 years in order for the Wizards to become a playoff team?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I can't remember seeing Nick get as many dunks as he is this season. He's too athletic NOT to get to the basket. The things Flip said he wanted to see...I'm seeing some of them...but either way...I guess Nick took it upon HIMSELF to be better.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

How many dunks has NY thrown down this year like 3? That's my man, but i don't see him finish at the rim that often.

I dunno why it may have taken Gil so long to impart his wisdom on NY, maybe it was the litany of surgeries,rehabs,child births, breakups,and trips to Tim Grover that clouded his mind. Either way I'm pretty sure that the faking hurt so he can start thing was this year.

The over dribbling has been over hyped IMHO. He's playing more confidently, because his mins are pretty much set, and he doesn't have to worry bout trying to do as much as he can as fast as he can before he gets the hook. He is running the offense and executing better than he has in the past.
But it's still about the semi-fadeaway (so sweet, it rarely grazes the rim). The handle is back, including the reverse between the legs step back. But there's no doubt that what they're doing is working.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Prior to last season Flip stated very directly that he was trying to steer Young towards playing a certain way. Young spent pretty much all of last season resisting the change (even going so far as openly stating his intention not to follow the coach's plan). This season, Young has been very clearly playing more along the lines of what Saunders outlined and has demonstrated an all around improvement in his play quality. So regardless of whether Young directly "credits" Flip, unless you think it's simply a coincidence that Young's improvement coincides with him following the coach's plan, then it's not really much of a question that Saunders' coaching has had a positive impact on Young's play.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"How many dunks has NY thrown down this year like 3?"

That's 3 more than he usually throws down. More significantly, he's gotten them by driving to the rim through traffic and finishing, something he almost never did before this season. The few dunks he's had before have all been run outs/fast breaks.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Same here. Unlike the 3-point shootout--which is a pure skills competition--dunks are about style, and most big men dunk really have a whole lot of style/flair to their dunks. They basically just jump real high and throw it down hard. Howard accessorized his presentation with the phone booth and cape, but the dunks themselves weren't all that noteworthy to me.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:34 PM | Report abuse

i would think that's what gives Javale a leg up on the competition. He's able to throw down much more acrobatic dunks. Blake Grizzly Is gonna dunk hard, but i dunno if he can do a lot of different dunks. he's a power dunker in the DH12 mold. I think Ibaka is closer to McGee. They are the big men high flyers that like to finish with style. Still i think Vale has the edge. jennings is interesting though, does anyone have video of him actually dunking since he came to the L? I think i saw some action from the McDonalds game a coupla yrs back, but i don't even know if i've seen Black Ice finish an NBA dunk.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I agree. there are players that are game dunkers were in they are more exciting to see dunk in actual game. I think Blake and McGhee are not suited in the dunking contest. I will be more happy if NY is included instead.

Posted by: Dave381 | January 5, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

That's 3 more than he usually throws down. More significantly, he's gotten them by driving to the rim through traffic and finishing, something he almost never did before this season. The few dunks he's had before have all been run outs/fast breaks.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

yep,i've seen like all 3 of them. I just didn't want folks reading the homies previous post to get the idea in their head that Ny was gonna be posterizing folks next time they visit verizon.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I agree. there are players that are game dunkers were in they are more exciting to see dunk in actual game. I think Blake and McGhee are not suited in the dunking contest. I will be more happy if NY is included instead.

Posted by: Dave381 | January 5, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Weird right?NY has by far one of the best dunks i've ever seen, with his around the back (in-air) dunk. and that was like 4 yrs ago. He's got tha 40 (vert) and long arms. Only way NY makes the contest is by getting invited. Only way he's invited is if he's throwing down impressive dunks in games. Clearly he doesn't get to the rim and finish enough in that fashion to be considered over The Baby Reign Man Brandon Jennings.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is probably an example of a game dunker.

Javale in the contest could be awkward, could be surprisingly good. I'll root for him as a Wizards. Always good to see our guys out there representing. I guess we should see JWall in the Rookie Challenge if he isn't banged up.

Posted by: gmac78 | January 5, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with most that watching guards in the dunk contest is more entertaining. If you think about it the shorter you are the more air time you have and the more time for acrobatics. However it is interesting to see what McGee would do because of his extreme length. This guy can take one giant tep from the top of the key and hes already at the basket. I think he can hang to the top of the backboard with his length.

Posted by: jefferu | January 5, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I figure McGee will do the dunk the tried at the end of that Sacramento game, jumping from the free throw line. That will get him to the final round.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 5, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I think he can hang to the top of the backboard with his length.

Posted by: jefferu | January 5, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse


tell me that wouldn't get all 10s. If slim jumped up and grabbed the top of the backboard with one hand, and dunked the ball with the other hand while hanging from the top of the backboard. I think DH12 got all 10s one year for slapping a sticker on the backboard at the alleged 12 foot mark, and i think it was last year he did that Power Lay up where his hand wasn't even close to touching the rim.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I figure McGee will do the dunk the tried at the end of that Sacramento game, jumping from the free throw line. That will get him to the final round.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 5, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It's a no brainer as long as he palms the ball. It slipped in Sac-to because he cuffed it, and it hit off his knee as he was going up. i think he can pull off a lot of the dunks guards and smaller forwards make.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Lebron is probably an example of a game dunker.

Posted by: gmac78

No, LeBron has pretty good creativity. He showed that in the McDonald's high school dunk contest. I wouldn't mind seeing LeBron in an NBA dunk contest. The problem is....

unlike in high school, LeBron would face people on a level as him dunk-wise. And as proven by his flight to Miami to ride D-Wade and CBosh, he is afraid of competition.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Have no interest in dunk contests, 3-point shooting contests, skills competitions, H-O-R-S-E, 1st year players vs. 2nd year players, veteran games or the All Star game itself.

A long time ago, NBA telecasts had one-on-one competitions among current players that were shown at half. The players would never go for it these days, but that'd be something that I'd be interesting in watching. Also, there was a feature called 'Red on Roundball' w/ Auerbach. That was informative and interesting to watch. Remember seeing Calvin Murphy demonstrate his routine and thought process w/ shooting FTs; Tiny Archibald/Pete Maravich demonstrating ball handling. That would be worthwhile. Dunking and 3-point competitions are garbage.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 5, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

unlike in high school, LeBron would face people on a level as him dunk-wise. And as proven by his flight to Miami to ride D-Wade and CBosh, he is afraid of competition.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Lebron losing to a nobody in the dunk contest would rival the hulubaloo about him getting dunked on. Some people wanna see that. I think watching Nate Robinson win the contest after missing 20-odd straight attempts lets Bron know the deck is stacked against him. I dunno who doesn't think Lebron is a top 3-5 dunker in this league, but the contest isn't a test, it's subjective.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

"tell me that wouldn't get all 10s. If slim jumped up and grabbed the top of the backboard with one hand, and dunked the ball with the other hand while hanging from the top of the backboard."

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:07 PM

That's what I mean. He could do it because he's got freakishly long arms, but there's really nothing esp. creative about it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

So regardless of whether Young directly "credits" Flip, unless you think it's simply a coincidence that Young's improvement coincides with him following the coach's plan, then it's not really much of a question that Saunders' coaching has had a positive impact on Young's play.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I think it's simply a coincidence Young got to play at all. Before the injuries to Wall, Flip was playing NY an average of 14.5 mpg while Kirk was getting 36.3 mpg.

So, like AB last year once one of the young guys gets more playing time their numbers go up?

Just because a player can get his points for a bad team doesn't make him a good player...again look at AB.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

A long time ago, NBA telecasts had one-on-one competitions among current players that were shown at half. The players would never go for it these days, but that'd be something that I'd be interesting in watching. Also, there was a feature called 'Red on Roundball' w/ Auerbach. That was informative and interesting to watch. Remember seeing Calvin Murphy demonstrate his routine and thought process w/ shooting FTs; Tiny Archibald/Pete Maravich demonstrating ball handling. That would be worthwhile. Dunking and 3-point competitions are garbage.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 5, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

you been in a coma? The slam dunk contest,3pt contest and rookie game are what all star weekend is all about. The NFL holds an NFL challenge the weekend of the probowl to expose their top superstar's skills, why can't the NBA? Shooting contests? They've been around as long as the game . Horse? You like hoops but have a problem with horse?You must have never played Horse, or at least never won. Put down the haterade bruh.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

That's bullshi#. Who did Spud beat in the dunk competition? LeBron is just plain scared to compete. He wants it stacked for him.

Did D-Howard get grief for losing to Nate? LeBron wasn't competing in NBA dunk contests before Nate got 20 attempts to make 1 dunk. If people gave LeBron grief over some garbage like that, then people are just sad. And LeBron shouldn't see such a punk!

Be real.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

And if all the high-flying superstars competed in the dunk contest, Nate wouldn't make the cut.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:29 PM | Report abuse

One thing McGee was made for is that contest. I hope he comes up with something good.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 5, 2011 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Lebron losing to a nobody in the dunk contest would rival the hulubaloo about him getting dunked on.

For reneging on last years contest, I would of invited Jordan Crawford this year(Yes, I'm petty like that).

Posted by: djnnnou | January 5, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

And if all the high-flying superstars competed in the dunk contest, Nate wouldn't make the cut.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

That's bullshi#. Who did Spud beat in the dunk competition? LeBron is just plain scared to compete. He wants it stacked for him.

Did D-Howard get grief for losing to Nate? LeBron wasn't competing in NBA dunk contests before Nate got 20 attempts to make 1 dunk. If people gave LeBron grief over some garbage like that, then people are just sad. And LeBron shouldn't see such a punk!

Be real.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

DHoward is not Lebron, and in some circles DH was talked about for losing to Nate. But Lebron and DH are different types of guys. Last yr or the one before DH graciously let Nate Dunk OVER HIM to win the contest. Compare that to LBJ who wouldn't shake his boy's hand after a hard fought playoff series where his opponent earned a victory.
BTW i haven't heard of any other player's post game hand shaking or lack there of being nearly as heavily scrutinized (DH didn't have much luv for the big 3 last yr)

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

And if all the high-flying superstars competed in the dunk contest, Nate wouldn't make the cut.

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Understood, but Nate is a one trick pony. The novelty of having him in the contes was cool but it wore thin. He was basically there to beat the other guys. Him DH and 2 others in the field? The other 2 guys didn't even try last year. they already knew what it was.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

The cool thing with Howard and hopefully Javale is the raising of the rim. I'd like to see Javale throw down on the highest possible rim he could, that would have to score high.

I'm glad he's in it, any Wizard involved with AS weekend is good in my book.

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 1:38 PM | Report abuse

But do you actually think LeBron should lose to Nate? LeBron punked out. Like I said, LeBron, D-Howard, Iggy, to start off would be a great start. You would go down a list of players before Nate would get an invite. LeBron didn't do 1 contest. Jordan competed against Nique. Kobe.

Avoiding criticism didn't stop LeBron from leaving Cleveland. Bottom line is he don't want to compete. He wants things handed to him. You think LeBron was competing against worthy competitors in the high school competition or nobodies?

Posted by: G-Man11 | January 5, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Nick's funky handle has a lot to do with why he doesnt throw down in-game, imo. Tough to get that high dribble through traffic and to the rim.

Nick's been playing D consistently since about midway through last season, once Flip decided it's a full time thing he gave him more mins and Nick scored more- just like many people said he would. Nothing surprising about Nick's emergence, all the tools have been there.

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

How many dunks has NY thrown down this year like 3? That's my man, but i don't see him finish at the rim that often.

I dunno why it may have taken Gil so long to impart his wisdom on NY, maybe it was the litany of surgeries,rehabs,child births, breakups,and trips to Tim Grover that clouded his mind. Either way I'm pretty sure that the faking hurt so he can start thing was this year.

The over dribbling has been over hyped IMHO. He's playing more confidently, because his mins are pretty much set, and he doesn't have to worry bout trying to do as much as he can as fast as he can before he gets the hook. He is running the offense and executing better than he has in the past.
But it's still about the semi-fadeaway (so sweet, it rarely grazes the rim). The handle is back, including the reverse between the legs step back. But there's no doubt that what they're doing is working.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse


The point is that he's playing better. I mean to see Nick have a open shot...pump split two defenders and finish at the rim. I was like man...it looks like he's finally getting it.

Gil faking hurt didn't do anything to get Nick on the court more. It was 1 preseaon game. If that was the case the 3 seasons he missed before would've helped more.

The fadeaway is sweet, but it's within the offense. And when he's dribbling it's usually to a spot and under control instead of dribbling to go nowhere.

The level of focus and control is MUCH better to me. His minutes are set because he's EARNED them. Hopefully we finally have a legit SG.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The over dribbling has been over hyped IMHO

If Flip pulled every player on this team for overdribbling or missing a defensive assignment, we couldn't field 5 players.

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 1:49 PM | Report abuse

And I don't understand Brandon Jennings at all. Especially coming off a broken foot. Maybe they just want a small guy in there.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I dont think I've ever seen Jennings dunk.

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Nah the overdribbling wasn't overhyped...
It's great to see Nick get the ball...maybe throw a jab step...two dribbles and pull up. All under control.

Anyone you say overdribbles brings something. You know AB wasn't doing his nonsense until he became a focal point. Like when Gil was actually our star player...you tolerate more bad habits from your main players...they get more room to "freelance" Yeah it sucks...but it's always gonna be that way.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Nick's funky handle has a lot to do with why he doesnt throw down in-game, imo. Tough to get that high dribble through traffic and to the rim.

True, and he can't dribble and elevate. He gets at least half a foot higher on oops.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 5, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse

The one thing I do not understand are the people who say that McGee is lazy and does not hustle. He is a jumping jack under the basket whenever there are multiple attempts at tip ins. He is constantly running the floor and trying for blocks on breakaways. He is constantly going for blocks. He is often the only big man trailing on break aways for the tip in or rebound or dish off. He often times steals the ball and drives the length of the floor for dunks. He is the only man playing the paint when Blatche is in at PF. He is constantly getting beat up by Flip "Barney Rubble" Saunders. If he impresses at the slam dunk contest watch out for free agency!!! It will take a wheel barrow full of money to keep him here after his treatment by Flip. Anyone offering a stable environment will be appreciated by him. Flip has showed no one anything. Giving him credit for mentoring Young is crazy. Arenas had to take a $50,000 fine just to get Young some playing time in the preseason. Young was on the verge of being run out of town for his gunning and missing. That was his breakthrough game. Do not rewrite the history books, Flip has been a failure here since day one. There is not one coach in basketball who has had to get rid of as many players in 1.5 years as Flip. He let the team get away with things last year that destroyed the entire team, and is ruining this years team as well. For all his griping, he cant seem to manage the team on or off the court. On the court is terrible and off the court is horrendous.

Posted by: 1bmffwb | January 5, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

His minutes are set because he's EARNED them. Hopefully we finally have a legit SG.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

So regardless of whether Young directly "credits" Flip, unless you think it's simply a coincidence that Young's improvement coincides with him following the coach's plan, then it's not really much of a question that Saunders' coaching has had a positive impact on Young's play.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Before the injuries to Wall, Flip was playing NY an average of 14.5 mpg while Kirk was getting 36.3 mpg.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Anyone you say overdribbles brings something. You know AB wasn't doing his nonsense until he became a focal point. Like when Gil was actually our star player...you tolerate more bad habits from your main players...they get more room to "freelance" Yeah it sucks...but it's always gonna be that way.

Was Earl Boykins a star player? Is Hinrich? I would say "No" in both cases. Totally agree with your point, I just hated watching it even when we did have a legit mega-man in Gil. 1man show is no way to run an offense. Though Gil's 4thQ heroics were about as good as it ever got for Wizards fans

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

1) nick young better still be starting...this two pg line up sucks ass, and leaves no ball handlers for the second unit. Hinrich is not a starter for an NBA team. hes a serviceable Back up. And besides we are trying to build here. Id like to see my boy Booker get some more burn as well. and the Ndyae pick? who gives a damn if he makes everyone smile. we need people who are going to play and contribute!

Congrats to Mcgee and yall might call me crazy but...Mcgee has abdul jabbar like skills and once he puts on a few LBS and develops a more consistent offensive game, him young and wall can be a pretty dynamic big 3.

Posted by: mrhney03 | January 5, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Can't say I'm filled with anticipation to watch a guy with a 7' 6" wingspan dunk.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

what if he looks graceful doing it? cos he does look graceful when hes playing

Posted by: mrhney03 | January 5, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Before the injuries to Wall, Flip was playing NY an average of 14.5 mpg while Kirk was getting 36.3 mpg.


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So the hell what? Damn.

He's on the court now and he's playing well. And how many minutes a game is he getting now? The lowest MPG he averaged in a month was 22.

I hope you're not actually using an 8 games sample to make a point of over 30 games.

By the way who drafted Nick Young? And I guess Tapscott was in charge of his development right? Oh okay.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Was Earl Boykins a star player? Is Hinrich? I would say "No" in both cases. Totally agree with your point, I just hated watching it even when we did have a legit mega-man in Gil. 1man show is no way to run an offense. Though Gil's 4thQ heroics were about as good as it ever got for Wizards fans

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Never said they were stars. Oh I hated Earl doing it. And as much as it sucks Earl was pretty much our closer last season. Watching Hinrich it's a lot that goes into that dribbling. It's not just because he wants to sit there and hold the ball.

Besides Earl was 5'5" it's easy to bump him off and make him dribble.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Watching Hinrich it's a lot that goes into that dribbling. It's not just because he wants to sit there and hold the ball.

Agree to disagree on that. Personally I want to see ball movement on offense, not one guy looking off other players for 18secs.

I swear we swing the ball around the perimeter less than any other team in the league!

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

By the way who drafted Nick Young? And I guess Tapscott was in charge of his development right? Oh okay.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse
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Who drafted Young? The same guy who traded away last year's number five pick to rent two players for a year.

Young was a first round pick four years ago. He's finally managed to raise his career scoring average to 9.1 per game. He's also averaging 1.6 boards and .9 assists per game. So, big wow! I'm glad he's been playing better of late, but let's not make the drafting of NY out to be some genius move on the part of Grunfeld. Grunfeld, now heading for his third 50 loss season in a row, needs to be fired, and Flip needs to be shown the gate along with him.

Posted by: sonny2 | January 5, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Agree to disagree on that. Personally I want to see ball movement on offense, not one guy looking off other players for 18secs.

I swear we swing the ball around the perimeter less than any other team in the league!

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree. At the same time...it's more that goes into offense than swinging the ball. Especially since he's not a quick penetrating type. He needs screens (a la Steve Nash) when good screens aren't set and they smother the ball...it's leads to more dribbling. Just one example. I've seen it happen to Wall too...bad screens lead to more dribbling at the top of the key. Wall is just much better of just going when the offense breaks down. Definitely not a strength of Kirk.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Can't say I'm filled with anticipation to watch a guy with a 7' 6" wingspan dunk.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 5, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Why not, not many can dunk like this kid can?

Posted by: NewManagement | January 5, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Who drafted Young? The same guy who traded away last year's number five pick to rent two players for a year.

Young was a first round pick four years ago. He's finally managed to raise his career scoring average to 9.1 per game. He's also averaging 1.6 boards and .9 assists per game. So, big wow! I'm glad he's been playing better of late, but let's not make the drafting of NY out to be some genius move on the part of Grunfeld. Grunfeld, now heading for his third 50 loss season in a row, needs to be fired, and Flip needs to be shown the gate along with him.

Posted by: sonny2 | January 5, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Never said it was a genius move but to BF78 who thinks everybody on the team sucks...shouldn't try to make Nick look good all of a sudden. Career scoring average of 9.1 but he's averaging 15 this year.

Yep he traded away the #5 pick which would've been career suicide NOW...but for a team built to go to the playoffs...it's a different path. Blew up the team so they're gone.

Show me a GM who hasn't screwed up along the way. He's an average to above average GM and that's who we have. It is what it is.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

He's an average to above average GM and that's who we have. It is what it is.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Average would mean somewhere in the middle...Ernie has been here 7 years and his team is at the bottom...that makes him below average...

It is what it is?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Average would mean somewhere in the middle...Ernie has been here 7 years and his team is at the bottom...that makes him below average...

It is what it is?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Considering he's been here 7 years and they weren't at the bottom all 7 years were they?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

LA got both Kobe and Pau through trades

Even though Pau was a "buddy" move just like the Boston trade with Garnett.

The real question is would Kobe's star shine as bright if his draft rights hadn't been traded to the Lakers. I don't think so. He needed those early years with Shaq and sprinkle in a little shine that the Lakers organization had even when they weren't winning. Shaq put the Lakers on his back when he got there. If Kobe didn't have Shaq, his shine wouldn't be where it is. Same for D Wade & Penny Hardaway

Posted by: zack9633 | January 5, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

If slim jumped up and grabbed the top of the backboard with one hand, and dunked the ball with the other hand while hanging from the top of the backboard. Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 5, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

After that what else will he do??? Between the legs, kiss the rim, 360??? Nah, he can't even take off from FT without losing the ball!

Posted by: Dave381 | January 5, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

BF78 who thinks everybody on the team sucks...shouldn't try to make Nick look good all of a sudden. Career scoring average of 9.1 but he's averaging 15 this year.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Before the injuries to Wall, Flip was playing NY an average of 14.5 mpg while Kirk was getting 36.3 mpg.

So, like AB last year once one of the young guys gets more playing time their numbers go up?

Just because a player can get his points for a bad team doesn't make him a good player...again look at AB.


Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I never tried to make NY look good...

My point was Flip didn't start Nick when the season started...

Nick's numbers have improved because Flip had to play him more minutes because of injuries...

and now kal is trying to give Flip credit for Nick getting more playing time?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The Spurs could use Josh Howard, come on EG, earn that paycheck

Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Since I don't get to see too many games would someone please explain to me why the Wizards are 8-24 considering...

according to SDMDTSU we have an above average GM and 4 of his draft picks wall, ny, ab and jm all start...

according to kal we have a great coach...

so if we have two great people leading the oranization why do the Wizards suck?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

"The Spurs could use Josh Howard, come on EG, earn that paycheck"
Posted by: divi3 | January 5, 2011 3:20 PM

Divi, with Butler out for the season I think Dallas needs JH back.

Posted by: Dave381 | January 5, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Have no interest in dunk contests, 3-point shooting contests, skills competitions, H-O-R-S-E, 1st year players vs. 2nd year players, veteran games or the All Star game itself.

A long time ago, NBA telecasts had one-on-one competitions among current players that were shown at half. The players would never go for it these days, but that'd be something that I'd be interesting in watching. Also, there was a feature called 'Red on Roundball' w/ Auerbach. That was informative and interesting to watch. Remember seeing Calvin Murphy demonstrate his routine and thought process w/ shooting FTs; Tiny Archibald/Pete Maravich demonstrating ball handling. That would be worthwhile. Dunking and 3-point competitions are garbage.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 5, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

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Also, kids listen to music too loud and need to stay off my lawn. Sayin!

Posted by: crs-one | January 5, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Only players under 5' 10" should be allowed to participate in the dunk competition.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 5, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Only players under 5' 10" should be allowed to participate in the dunk competition.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 5, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse
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Then I qualify...heh heh

Posted by: cbmuzik | January 5, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Artis Gilmore has to be the biggest man to ever compete in a dunk contest. He did it back in the old ABA in the same dunk contest that Dr. J pulled out the foul line dunk.

Artis strolled out onto the floor palming a basketball in each hand, from the foul line took a step and went up and dunked them both, one right after the other in a double windmill dunk move. I've never seen anybody else even try that dunk, ever.

Back in the 70's I was told that Wilt did the same dunk once in NY in a dunk contest against The Goat. Story always went that "The Goat" then had them lay quarters on the top of the backboard and he went up grabbed a quarter and dunked the ball on the way down. Those two dunks may only be old NY city street lore.

Gilmore didn't win that dunk contest because the Doctor went last and one upped him. The crowd went completely wild when the Doctor ran nearly the length of the court and did the foul line dunk.

Shame that was back in the days that I got ABA games on fuzzy old UHF, I saw it, but I sure didn't have much of a picture.

Yeah right, Centers shouldn't be in the dunk contest. I'd say if McGee duplicates any one of those 3 dunks he'll have proven himself completely worthy...

Posted by: flohrtv | January 5, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Name an NBA good to go pro.who was drafted after NY 4 years ago.I do not like EG but i do not have to be hard on him for everything.Ny was the right 16th pick that season.

Posted by: gtefferra | January 5, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember Bob Ferry. Ernie is approaching his futility in my mind.

Here's the problem with Ernie, When he had the 3 ballers (Arenas, butler and jamison), he did not go and get the d-specialist required. he went and got more scorers or wasted picks on foreign projects.

Last year Ernie wasted the entire draft! The Wiz could definitely use Dejaun Blair. they passed on him. Taj gibson is a baller that fits his role. Jrue holliday, Derozan, jennings and others are ballers. We trade for 2 guys no longer on the roster. that's criminal GM-ing and an entire draft wasted.

Posted by: oknow1 | January 5, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Gil should have been the coach, he paid 50k to prove nick is one of the best players on the team. Nick could and would have played like this when he first got here if he had been given the chance, but eddie, tapout and Flip had to please the vets, because they would have lost their job, nick scored 33 against NY and Jamison said, so what we still lost, like they hadn't already been losing.

Posted by: maejude | January 5, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I never tried to make NY look good...

My point was Flip didn't start Nick when the season started...

Nick's numbers have improved because Flip had to play him more minutes because of injuries...

and now kal is trying to give Flip credit for Nick getting more playing time?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Nick hasn't consistently shown what he's showing now. Why should he have started? And Gil was here. If it was about Wall getting hurt he could've started Kirk and Gil with Martin coming off the bench. Nick was supposed to be the 6th man. He got his shot and took advantage.

Since I don't get to see too many games would someone please explain to me why the Wizards are 8-24 considering...

according to SDMDTSU we have an above average GM and 4 of his draft picks wall, ny, ab and jm all start...

according to kal we have a great coach...

so if we have two great people leading the oranization why do the Wizards suck?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

They're young and they gutted the entire team. Did you expect a championship this year?

You stay complaining about OKC this and that. How many top 5 picks did they get? The Wizards were in the playoffs and picking mid 1st round.

You call Ernie lucky for getting Wall. Call them lucky for getting Durant then and losing enough to get all those draft picks.

And yeah...Ernie traded the 5th pick...but according to YOU...they did it because Abe didn't want to go over the cap and wouldn't pay a rookie. So we weren't getting one anyway according to you.

Make up your damn mind.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Make up your damn mind.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I've been pretty clear that I think Ernie is a below average GM

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

You wanna follow the OKC model well here it is:

2006 Seattle won 31 games. I guess things got "stale" and they traded Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis....effectively gutting the team.

They got Durant and Jeff Green two top 5 picks and won 20 games the next season.

They drafted Russell Westbrook (another top 5 pick) and Serge Ibaka went on to win 23 games the next season.

They get ANOTHER top 5 pick and draft Jeff Harden...and breakthrough to win 50 games.

Through other trades they stockpile 3 first round picks in this draft and what do they do? TRADE THEM AWAY! And get Cole Aldrich.

So complaining why do they suck less than 40 games into a rebuild that took OKC 4 years to complete...is pretty idiotic.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I've been pretty clear that I think Ernie is a below average GM

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 5, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

And like I always tell you...give me some GMs to compare him against.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 5, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

"The one thing I do not understand are the people who say that McGee is lazy and does not hustle. He is a jumping jack under the basket whenever there are multiple attempts at tip ins. He is constantly running the floor and trying for blocks on breakaways. He is constantly going for blocks."

Yep, IMO that's the problem. He's so focused on blocks he forgoes other parts of defensive play. There's nothing lazy about the guy, although he does get tired more easily than some.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 5, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid I've come to the point where I won't bother watching a dunk contest. Been there, seen that. More interesting when somebody does something in a game. The only thing worse than the dunk contest is the All-Star game itself.

Maybe if they raised the basket to 12 feet and made Javale work a little bit...

BTW, I wouldn't sleep on little Brandon Jennings. Never seen him dunk but those guys with jets can really get some momentum going.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 5, 2011 5:37 PM | Report abuse

That block and round-house dunk McGee made couple of years ago was the best! Always spectacular was McGee's style.

Posted by: RedCherokee | January 5, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Mcgee can probably do the proverbial, " take a dollar bill off the top of the backboard and leave change" Dunk.

Posted by: bobilly1 | January 5, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Dunk Contest is nothing but clown time.

Why are people still getting excited about Dunking?
It's two points!

Posted by: shamken | January 6, 2011 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Too bad he doesn't get "really excited" about growing up & becoming a PRO.

Posted by: ubetonit | January 6, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

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