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Posted at 8:35 AM ET, 01/21/2011

John Wall vs. Steve Nash, Part 2

By Gene Wang
Morning brew

The last time John Wall played against Phoenix, he got a chance to study Suns counterpart Steve Nash up close and personal. Problem was, Nash was virtually unstoppable that day, thoroughly outplaying Wall and leading Phoenix to a 125-108 win at home.

Tonight Wall gets another crack at Nash, one of the most accomplished point guards of his generation, in the second matchup between the teams this season. In their last meeting, Nash had 20 points, making all eight of his field goal attempts, and 17 assists with just two turnovers. He also went 3 for 3 from the foul line and made his only three-point try.

Wall, meantime, missed 8 of 12 shots and finished with 12 points and 12 assists with four turnovers.

"Nash destroyed him last time," Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said. "I don't think he missed a shot from the field or the free throw line and had a bunch of assists, so John just has to worry about himself I think. He's got to just keep the pace of game at a high pace. He's had a tendency at times after his first blow sitting out, he hasn't come back in with the same pace. Partly we hadn't defended as well as we had early in the games, so he's got to control tempo of the game."

It's the first of another rigorous stretch of one-on-one matchups for Wall, who draws Boston's Rajon Rondo on Saturday night, then faces, among others, the Knicks' Raymond Felton, Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook, Dallas's Jason Kidd and New Orleans's Chris Paul, over the next six games.

Recently, Wall has had to contend with the likes of Toronto's Jose Calderon, who had 21 points, 15 assists and 9 rebounds in a 98-95 loss to Washington on Saturday, and Utah's Deron Williams, who is third behind Rondo and Nash in assists per game.

"John's had a tough go here as far as who he's had to match up here lately," Saunders said. "All the guys are playing well who he's matched up."

FROM THE POST
John Wall has asked his coaches to fine him if displays bad body language during games.

Forward Rashard Lewis is dealing with a sore knee that has been acting up since he came to Washington.

AROUND THE WEB
National Basketball Players Association executive director Billy Hunter tells Jeff Zillgitt of USA Today that he believes that a lockout is looming.

ESPN.com's Bill Simmons breaks down the 2011 All-Star teams and writes about how uncomfortable the East roster might be after Dwyane Wade snubbed Derrick Rose's attempts to recruit him in free agency. But Rose said that isn't true.

Kobe Bryant, who once was booed for making a trade demand, tells Denver fans how they should deal with Carmelo Anthony.

Greg Oden, the 2007 No. 1 overall pick, promises to be back.

By Gene Wang  | January 21, 2011; 8:35 AM ET
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Comments

"Nash destroyed him last time," Wizards Coach Flip Saunders said.

When will this man ever say I got out coached?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Flip started Gee that game...maybe that was a mistake considering the guy isn't even on the team anymore?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Posted at 7:54 PM ET, 12/ 5/2010

By Michael Lee

Coach Flip Saunders will continue to bring Gilbert Arenas off the bench, while starting Kirk Hinrich in the backcourt with John Wall and using Alonzo Gee at small forward. Saunders said. We'll start kind of a different kind of a lineup with Alonzo and Kirk, maybe a defensive-oriented to start with, then we'll bring him off.

Since Kirk is your guy why not put him on Nash to see if he could stop him?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I've seen some encouraging signs from Wall. Mainly that he's thinking about something other than scoring. Ultimately that will pay off. He won't get to be RoY, but that was always overrated -- look at Tyreke Evans' struggles this season. The idea is to become a better NBA player.

I'd like to see him focus on running the offense and playing good defense. Steve doesn't play much in the way of defense himself, so points could come naturally.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Should be a great game. The Suns are red hot having won 4 in a row and 5 of 6 but alot of them have come against down teams. I expect both Dray & NY to keep cooking against this team, espically Dray. It will be a running game and I like our style against them at home. We could lose if we just settle for J's and let them run but if we go inside either from the post or just driving then we will win

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 21, 2011 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Other thing I have to remember is that Wall is about to log his 24th NBA start. Steve Nash starts his 895th. Add another 111 playoff games to Nash's total.

That's the thing about outlandish expectations -- and Wall's expectations of himself are probably bigger than ours.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Wall gets owned by most opposing PGs, i expect him and kirk to struggle containing Nash tonight if he's playing like Steve Nash can play.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

That's the thing about outlandish expectations -- and Wall's expectations of himself are probably bigger than ours.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Outlandish meaning over the top and possibly unrealistic? Sheeeeeesh maybe we shoulda thought twice about that captain status.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 10:51 AM | Report abuse

I don't think an NBA captaincy means much (after all, there are two of them, and only 15 roster spots). Certainly not in comparison to the expectations put on a consensus #1 draft pick. Fans expect a whole lot, healthy or no, and so does the media. If the rest of the team is struggling, even more burden falls on the kid phenom. Nothing you can do about it; it's just pro sports.

How well is Wall playing? Numbers are good -- you'd like to see the FG% over 40, of course, and reduce the turnovers. He's most often compared to Derrick Rose. The first year numbers (to date for Wall):

Minutes: Rose 37, Wall 37
Points: Rose 16.8, Wall 15.3
FG%: Rose 47.5, Wall 39.7
3 point: Rose 22.2%, Wall 29.7%
FT: Rose 78.8%, Wall 80.3%
Assists: Rose 6.3, Wall 9.3
Steals: Rose 0.8, Wall 1.8
Blocks: Rose 0.2, Wall 0.4
Rebounds: Rose 3.9, Wall 3.8
TOs: Rose 2.5, Wall 3.8
PFs: Rose 1.5, Wall 2.4

I don't know how two players can get a whole lot closer. One difference is health: Derrick started 80 games that season; at midpoint, Wall has already missed 17 starts. Some of that is the Wiz being cautious.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Also worth noting that Steve Nash didn't really a starting player until his 3rd season, in Dallas. He was actually traded before that year. If Wall improves half as much as Steve did, the Wiz will be just fine.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Stemming from the conversation on the last post...if you google Bulletsfan78 and blind follower...

I promise you get at least 10 minutes of comedy from it.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Just read article under AOL sports, fanhouse, where Arenas is struggling because of lack of minutes. Seems like his problem is similar to Nick's at the start of the season. It basically seems that he's not as happy as he seemed at first, etc.

Posted by: washwiz | January 21, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Also worth noting that Steve Nash didn't really a starting player until his 3rd season, in Dallas. He was actually traded before that year. If Wall improves half as much as Steve did, the Wiz will be just fine.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

*********************************************************************************

The Wiz will not be just fine, and Wall will not improve the way Nash did unless and until Leonsis gets rid of Grunfeld and Saunders. They are generally clueless.
Look at the Portland Trailblazers. Every year they have as many injury woes as any team in the league. Just this year alone, for example, I know they've lost Brandon Roy, Marcus Camby, and Joel Pryzbilla (not to mention Greg Oden) for long stretches of time. They're currently sitting at 24-20 and on a four game win streak. Their front office and coaching staff make adjustments and stay competitive. The Wizards make excuses and stay uncompetitive. Grunfeld and Saunders must go.

Posted by: sonny2 | January 21, 2011 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Rose is currently light years ahead of Wall, but I'm hoping it's mainly a physical gap that will narrow naturally. DRose is really something, not sure I've ever seen anyone get through traffic in the same manner he does.

That said, I like that Wall is more focused on assists than scoring. Watching Rose you get Gil flashbacks sometimes and not in a good way.

Posted by: divi3 | January 21, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

@divi3

i wish Wall was as explosive as Rose is. He has the ability to get in the paint or get an angle on his man and get to the rim in a way that seems unnatural for a pg. he's truly special in that way and i doubt that Wall can acquire that "skill". I think wall may have the edge in pure speed, but Rose is waaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more explosive.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

The problem with GA is he is no longer worthy of extended minutes on most nights. The catchphrase used around him these days is "when he gets back into shape." What? You expect me to believe his so so play is bc he is not in shape at this point? He was returning from all his knee rehabs last season and was playing better then than he currently is, but he couldn't afford to suffer another setback. Unfortunately, his self destruction cost him the remainder of the season and he is just never going to be close to what he once was. Not going to happen! So glad we made that trade.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Wall may be faster (might not be), but Rose is just flat out stronger and uses that strength to maintain his advantage and finish better around the rim. Wall just gets knocked around once he gains an advantage on the defense and doesn't finish nearly as well.

Wall's got two huge improvements to make:
1) Get stronger.
2) Get a jumpshot.

He does those two things and he'll be in the same ballpark as Rose.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I think it's too soon to compare Wall to anybody yet. I almost see him as a D-Wade with a PG mentality.

He's still learning...I was watching the Utah game on DVR just the way he presses the defense when they back off him is way better. You give him space...he keeps coming instead of staying back. Rose is in his 3rd season right? Give Wall two years of learning and getting served by these top PGs...he'll learn.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

i wish Wall was as explosive as Rose is

That should come with greater strength, both through simply growing into his body and continued weight training. Rose is fricking jacked, the way he gets through bigs in the paint and finishes is just amazing. Not sure we can expect Wall to get to that point, but he looks like he could fill out very well. DWade-ish

Wall gets a pass as a rookie, but he REALLY needs to get his D in order...he's been nothing short of terrible, but again, most rookies fare the same.

Posted by: divi3 | January 21, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Wall's got two huge improvements to make:
1) Get stronger.
2) Get a jumpshot.

He does those two things and he'll be in the same ballpark as Rose.

Fully agree, and I think it'll happen.

The problem with GA is he is no longer worthy of extended minutes on most nights.

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2011/1/20/1945783/gilbert-arenas-struggles-to-adjust-to-orlando-magic

Posted by: nmik | January 21, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

That said, I like that Wall is more focused on assists than scoring.

Posted by: divi3 | January 21, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

It would be great if Wall could develop into a pure point guard like Nash...getting his teammates into the game first but being able to score on nights when the team needs it...

I like the fact that he and Nick are getting some meaningful PT...it will be interesting to see how much chemistry they can acquire and yes I would prefer to hear that they are playing in the 4th quarter even if that means they lose a few games.

The forward spots are a whole different issue if they keep AB and Lewis I believe they need to find a big body to man the middle...someone who doesn't need to score but has some size to make players think twice about driving the lane...

I'm not a big fan of having 3 finesse guys playing together...I like what Boston had with Pierce, Garnett and Perkins.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

And a tangent: Should owners really blog their thoughts? Is there such a thing as too much (public) honesty?

http://www.cavstheblog.com/?p=3981&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I guess it's better than sitting courtside jeering players . . .

Posted by: nmik | January 21, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Or what SA has with Duncan, Jefferson and Blair

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"When will this man ever say I got out coached?"

Now you know ole Eeyore isn't going to do that. He'll just blame Wiz players like he always does.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 21, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a big fan of having 3 finesse guys playing together...I like what Boston had with Pierce, Garnett and Perkins.

Posted by: bulletsfan78

I agree, but we don't (at least yet) have that same combination of complementary big pieces.

Posted by: nmik | January 21, 2011 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Seraphin Makes Good With Little Time

It reads like a fan post, but at least it's something.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 21, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

good post holmes. genuine insight into the team without a hint of negativity. Prove the haters wrong! I kinda see what you're talking about some of the times. Twist on up for me........we're doin generation Js out here

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Seraphin Makes Good With Little Time

It reads like a fan post, but at least it's something.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 21, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah definitely sounds like someone in Kevin's family wrote that...but he did stand out to me in the brief period of time he was in the game. He's like a damn wrecking ball on the court...hope he gets more time going forward.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"I think it's too soon to compare Wall to anybody yet. I almost see him as a D-Wade with a PG mentality."

Now this is funny. It's too soon to compare him to anybody? But, you do in the very next sentence! A comparison that I've heard nobody come close to making previously.

Both Wall and Rose are one year Kentucky alumni PG phenoms with blazing speed and iffy jump shots. So, naturally, they will often be compared to one another. I think they will be close in terms of production as early as next season. Perhaps the next as Wall needs time to catch up in the development process. Long term, I think Rose will always hold a strength advantage and Wall a slight edge in speed. Rose will probably score 3/4 more points a game on average than Wall, but Wall will have the advantage in assists and steals. One key will be whose jump shot ends up improving the most since that would mean they would be unguardable. Rose is already getting there.

Both are/will be capable of being a PG on a championship caliber team. Now, let's get Wall some more help in this years lottery! Rose already has help.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I was speaking on what he COULD be...not what he is NOW. Comparing him to Rose NOW...I think it's too soon for that. I feel what you're saying though.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | January 21, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

@rphilli
too bad rose went to memphis

but why waste time with facts

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The other PG I looked at was Chris Paul. He was pretty sensational as a rookie. Rookie of the Year -- in fact, only one vote cast against him, for Deron Williams -- I believe that's the biggest landslide. Chris came out after his soph year in college. His first year numbers over 78 games and 78 starts:

Minutes: 36
Points: 16.1
FG%: 43%
3point: 28.2%
FT%: 84.7%
Assists: 7.8
Steals: 2.2
Blocks: 0.1
Rebounds: 5.1
TOs: 2.35
PFs: 2.8

Also not far from Wall's numbers to date.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

also not a number 1 selection overall

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

that 05 draft had to be one of the worst ever. there are about 12-15 real NBA players out of the entire 60 selected. Only 4 all stars and 2 all Nbas .

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Rose is physically more mature than Wall, but then he's two years older, with two offseasons in a conditioning program. But I think the biggest difference might be Rose's 201 NBA games plus 12 playoff contests. Hard to overstate the importance of that experience to a PG.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

@Wood,

Wow, you are so smart. As if that is pertinent to the point Mr. Editor. They had the same coach right? Yeah, thought so.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Some years the top selection in the draft is a clear choice, some years it isn't. Blake Griffin and Wall were about as clear as you could get. Greg Oden was rated about even with Durant but happened to be a center. Andrea Bargnani was almost a compromise choice in a year when teams had trouble making up their minds. In a typical year there are maybe 3 players who could go first, and some shuffling occurs in the weeks leading up to the draft.

This could be one of those years. Complicated by the possibility that Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes (or both) will stay in school. That leaves Perry Jones of Baylor, who hasn't really been outstanding this year, and several foreign players. Jared Sullinger and Enes Kanter are lurking somewhere in there. If a couple of the top players stay with the NCAA, it could be pretty lean pickings in the top 6.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Both Wall and Rose are one year Kentucky alumni PG phenoms with blazing speed and iffy jump shots. So, naturally, they will often be compared to one another.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse


Not playing Mr. Editor at all holmes. Just pointing out, for anybody who casually pops by and thinks that they might wanna restate something they read on here that NO John Wall and Derrick Rose are NOT 1 yr Kentucky alumni.You were trying to tie the two players together with more information than you had command of at the time. It happens. But to get snippy with me about it only leaves me to ask why Wall would be so closely compared to a player who's been in the NBA 2 yrs longer than him. I don't remember much of Rose's rookie career, but i can recall Tyreke Evans rookie campaign a lil better, especially since he was Coach Cal's last PG prodigy before Wall.If we're talking 1 yr Kentucky alums (thought you needed a degree to be an alum) with blazing speed and iffy js, you mighta been talmbout Eric Bledsoe also a rookie and not a good basis for comparison whatsoever.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you are so smart. As if that is pertinent to the point Mr. Editor. They had the same coach right? Yeah, thought so.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 21, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

You never brought up the coach as a factor at all. If your point was about them both learning from coach cal then you shoulda just said that instead of trying to come up with facts you don't know to try and make your point look more legit.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

@samson151 seriously doe, look at that 05 draft it's brutal. I know a coupla GMs found themselves on the hotseat behind that one.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I suppose there's a possibility Ricky Rubio comes over this year. Most people thought 2012, but Minnesota has improved and he might consider playing there. That'd probably make him the favorite for next season's RoY award.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

That'd probably make him the favorite for next season's RoY award.

Based on what? Rubio is not even the best player on his euro team, that kid is going to struggle mightily if he ever comes here. He's slow and can't shoot, I'm not aware of any successful NBA pg who fits that mold.

Posted by: divi3 | January 21, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

speaking of the Bulls....how many people this summer would have preferred to have Kurt Thomas over Yi? How about now? That's the kind of player we need, seems to me our Bigs need much more 'mentoring' than Wall does.

Posted by: divi3 | January 21, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

^^ Fasho

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Seraphin Makes Good With Little Time

It reads like a fan post, but at least it's something.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 21, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Looking at some stats...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/serapke01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/caracde01.html

both about the same size

Seraphin picked 17th

Caracter picked 58th

I know we got Kirk...who took mins away from NY at the start of the year, by looking at the win loss record hasn't really helped and cost 9 mil this year and 8 mil next year....

The Wizards could have drafted Caracter and resigned Foye and got the same production out of those two players as they are with a reach (Seraphin) and an older player (Kirk)who will not be here if the current Wizards youth movement stays together.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 21, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Based on what? Rubio is not even the best player on his euro team, that kid is going to struggle mightily if he ever comes here. He's slow and can't shoot, I'm not aware of any successful NBA pg who fits that mold.
Posted by: divi3"

This is often the sort of criticism you hear about Ricky. We don't know he'll stack up against players like Chris Paul and Deron Williams. But here's what draftexpress had to say about him in May of 2010:

"Rubio's per-game statistics are not all that impressive when viewed from the vantage point of a NBA fan—he plays just 20 minutes per game and has always been more of a distributor than a scorer—but there is little doubt that he's improved substantially as the starting point guard of arguably the best team in European basketball."

"Many would argue that he garnered far better experience playing for championships in the Euroleague and ACB this season than he would have losing 50+ games on a non-competitive team in the NBA."

I've only seen him play twice last season, and in both I was struck by how much faster he seemed with the ball in his hands than without - a characteristic of some very good PGs.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

There was some legit question about why Derrick Caracter fell in the draft -- also about Stanley Robinson of UConn, who the Wiz actually worked out. Rumor is the issues were twofold: a lot of conduct problems at Louisville before a final year at UTEP, plus his past weight struggles. At the Combine he was around 280 with 13% body fat. Everybody agreed he was wonderfully strong and had a very solid inside post game -- but despite that, pretty much every team in the NBA passed on him at least once. He went 58 of 60.

He played great in Summer League, so LA might have found themselves a player.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

re: Rubio

I watched his FIBA games and couldn't decide how I think he'd do in the NBA.

"Many would argue that he garnered far better experience playing for championships in the Euroleague and ACB this season than he would have losing 50+ games on a non-competitive team in the NBA."
Posted by: Samson151

Oh, definitely agree with that.

In any case, I'm still not convinced he'll ever play for the Wolves.

Posted by: nmik | January 21, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

speaking of the Bulls....how many people this summer would have preferred to have Kurt Thomas over Yi? How about now? That's the kind of player we need, seems to me our Bigs need much more 'mentoring' than Wall does.Posted by: divi3

I still like the Yi for Quinton Ross trade. Kurt Thomas was a free agent, so it would of been a choice of Thomas or Hilton Armstrong. Not that the Wizards had a choice.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 21, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Wall should gain from this experience, and learn a great deal during the next games coming up.

Posted by: HLSHAP | January 21, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

but despite that, pretty much every team in the NBA passed on him at least once. He went 58 of 60.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 21, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Blair may have been a once in a generation steal in the second, but BS assesments like the one above are more CYA for gms and indicative of a lot less leg work. Now i doubt Caracter will turn out to be Blair, but justifying passing on a guy by saying others did it too is just weak.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | January 21, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

An interesting look at point guards (obviously including Wall):

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/1/21/1943363/derrick-rose-russell-westbrook-nba-point-guard

Posted by: nmik | January 21, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

speaking of the Bulls....how many people this summer would have preferred to have Kurt Thomas over Yi? How about now? That's the kind of player we need, seems to me our Bigs need much more 'mentoring' than Wall does.

Posted by: divi3

I agree with what djnnnou added to this, but generically speaking, I would have preferred Thomas at the time and now. While in the midst of the ridiculous argument DCMAN88 and I found ourselves in over the summer, I preferred KT over his choice of Brad Miller. And probably for exactly the reasons you're thinking of now.

He doesn't have a ton left in the tank as a player, he sort of saves it up for the postseason a la Robert Horry. But he's a very experienced big man who specializes in post defense.

The problem is, without seriously overpaying him, he wasn't coming here because he wants to play in the post-season.

Posted by: ts35 | January 21, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Given that Wall still doesn't seem fully healthy, I think he'll struggle with Nash again. On top of that, he hasn't been as aggressive with his scoring, especially in the half-court, so I don't know if he'll be able to take full advantage of Nash on the other end. He didn't exactly light up Earl Boykins. Boykins is peskier than Nash, but he's also 5'7".

As usual, though, full team effort is required. The biggest difference I see right now between Rose and Wall is that Rose is capable of carrying the Bulls for stretches. Understandably, Wall's not quite there yet. Ultimately though I agree that Rose will remain a better scorer, but Wall a better distributor.

Posted by: ts35 | January 21, 2011 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Any Point guard that can get 10 assist in this junk offense or even 10 in a half is pretty impressive. Imagine if they get John a real head coach.

Posted by: bonggong | January 21, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

John Wall is having a very positive rookie year. No article or team boss have much positive to say about a kid that is doing what very very few rookie point guards do. Screw our lame coach who is so negative about a team gift that he's probably never before had a chance to NOT help develop in everyway he can. John Walls I'm sorry you play in my town. Look at every headline--and you are stuck here for several years. The refs are gonna kill you. You would not have knee trouble if you were in Miami. Would Saunders rather have Nash? No, and if he did he'd be gushing with crap superlatives.

Posted by: CTaylor42 | January 22, 2011 10:38 AM | Report abuse

This kid Wizard can light Nash and most of his NBA peers clean up almost in his sleep, and the Refs and his coach will make sure he doesn't last a season. There isn't three point guards in the whole fake entertainment league that a GM would prefer for his teams future over our unfortunate young gift. Here DC has got a rare young smart above the league talent and there are few of any authority that deserves the honor to enjoy him. So make the "different one" positive development diffcult.

Posted by: CTaylor42 | January 22, 2011 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Seraphin is definitely traded to a "NBA" team before his third year. Remember he is developing into a physical MAN and the Wizards I guarentee you, WILL NOT KEEP THAT HERE TO DEVELOPMEMT, they will only see his warts and get taken for somebody finesse and continue their long earned lack of respect. I love all DC teams but respect very few of them. They think subordinate from the top.

Posted by: CTaylor42 | January 22, 2011 11:06 AM | Report abuse

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