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Posted at 12:55 AM ET, 01/30/2011

Nick Young blames play calling for loss in Memphis

By Michael Lee

It was bound to happen at some point, with the losses piling up, the jokes growing cornier and the gravity of their plight growing more and more upsetting. The Wizards have consistently shown their frustration with angry or befuddled looks, but until Saturday in Memphis, the players had never placed the blame on coaching.

But after the Wizards lost 107-93 in Memphis -- their 23rd consecutive road game to start this season -- Nick Young openly questioned the play calling as he slipped on his sneakers in the visitor's locker room. Young was upset that the team had abandoned the scheme it had used the night before in Oklahoma City, when it pushed the Thunder to double overtime.

"I don't know. We don't stay consistent with play calling," Young said. "It's crazy. It can't be us all the time. The same thing we run against the Thunder, we came out with a different plan. It can't be us every night."

The comments were surprising, since Young rarely says or does anything to stir the pot, outside of changing his hairdo from time to time. A few weeks ago, after a loss to Phoenix, Young was asked if the players or coaching was mostly at fault for the Wizards' shortcomings in the fourth quarter. Young didn't bite, saying that the players were prepared but failed to execute when it mattered.

With his more prominent role as a primary scorer on the team, Young said he has to be more vocal. And, he certainly took a different side after he was held to just eight points on 2 of 9 shooting.

"We've got to be consistent really," Young said. "We got to work on just staying together really. I think that's what's making us go out there and play this way. Everyone feels they can change the game and be a game changer. We've just got to stay consistent with what we was running. We should've carried over what we had against the Thunder. We should've came out excited and ready to pump and going with the same routine."

Young was forced to leave the game in the fourth quarter with a calf injury but said it "didn't determine" what happened on the floor.

Coach Flip Saunders spoke before Young, and he credited Sam Young and Tony Allen for knocking Young off his game, a night after he had scored 32 points on 33 shots in Oklahoma City.

"For some reason, Nick didn't have anything from the beginning," Saunders said. "When you come off big games and you're the focal point of what they're going to do, they are going to go after you and we didn't respond in a great way."

Saunders later said something that was echoed later by Al Thornton. "We played soft at times. We didn't go out, like we were waiting to get hit, and in our league, you can't do that. You have to be aggressive."

The Wizards (13-33) were far from aggressive against the Grizzlies, who dominated them inside with Zach Randolph, who had his ninth career 20-20 game with 24 points and 20 rebounds. Randolph's rebounding totals are amazing since he couldn't hurdle a nickel laying flat.

The Grizzlies scored 68 points in the paint. Sure, JaVale McGee wasn't around because of the flu and Andray Blatche was sick as well -- he complained after the game that he was feeling dizzy -- but that is ridiculous. The Wizards did have six different guys score in double figures, but, unlike the night before in Oklahoma City, they didn't have any standout individual performances to counter Memphis, which seemed to get quality production from most of the players Grizzlies Coach Lionel Hollins put on the floor.

"We felt good about [the game against the Thunder] and we just didn't carry it over," Saunders said. "Do I feel good right now? No, I don't, because I don't think we competed like we did [on Friday]. We had some guys who did, but when you're missing guys and you are not at full strength, you can't have a couple of guys play. We're not talented enough to do that. We need everybody playing at a high level because of our margin of error. We had some guys who didn't play at that same level."

By Michael Lee  | January 30, 2011; 12:55 AM ET
Categories:  Flip Saunders, John Wall, Nick Young, Trevor Booker  
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You have to make a coaching change at the all-star break. This is ridiculous. However, the worse the wizards do the better chance they have at the #1 pick and Jared Sullinger. Flip might be the worst coach in NBA history.

Posted by: slick3 | January 30, 2011 3:30 AM | Report abuse

The problem was, is and will be Grunfeld and his poor draft picks, bad contracts and culture of losing that he has created in our city, in our team. We are a National joke and it's not the coach's fault. This team is the result of a pathetic job by Grunfeld and changing the coach will not change that. Grunfeld has to go!

Posted by: member8 | January 30, 2011 7:43 AM | Report abuse

@Michael Lee: "Sure, JaVale McGee wasn't around because of the flu and Andray Blatche was sick as well -- he complained after the game that he was feeling dizzy --but that is ridiculous."

This probably is one of Michael Lee's more idiotic/uninformed statements -- and he's had plenty of them.

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:47 AM | Report abuse

@Michael Lee: "Sure, JaVale McGee wasn't around because of the flu and Andray Blatche was sick as well -- he complained after the game that he was feeling dizzy --but that is ridiculous."

This probably is one of Michael Lee's more idiotic/uninformed statements -- and he's had plenty of them.

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

@Michael Lee: "Sure, JaVale McGee wasn't around because of the flu and Andray Blatche was sick as well -- he complained after the game that he was feeling dizzy --but that is ridiculous."

This probably is one of Michael Lee's more idiotic/uninformed statements -- and he's had plenty of them.

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Apologies for the multiple entries; apparent glitch with the Insider software -- how surprising!

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse

"The same thing we run against the Thunder, we came out with a different plan."

Perhaps Nick didn't notice the Wizards were playing a different opponent?

One would hope there would be a little difference in "plan" for the game between two opponents with such different styles of play as the Thunder and Grizzlies.

Posted by: nmik | January 30, 2011 7:54 AM | Report abuse

I guess the 2 OTs the night before in a back to back on the road had nothing to do with this game? Not to mention being short of 2 players at full strength. Pretty lame reporting I'll say.

Posted by: richs91 | January 30, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

That little comment says it all about the state of this franchise. Discipline is called for in this instance. Let's see what happens. Many times in the past, that has not been forthcoming. More to the point of enabling, coddling.

And thanks to the reporters who bum-rushed NY since he openly begged for attention by stating he needed to be "more vocal." More vocal is not synonymous with more intelligent. Damn kid, shut up for your own good.

Note to GRUNFELD:

Please consider intelligence as well as athletic ability when selecting players. BOOKER.....you got lucky, he gets it. BLATCHE and YOUNG.....I know you folks can't see my head shaking. McGEE, WALL, SERAPHIN, ARMSTRONG, N'DIAYE, SHAKUR.....jury's still out.

LEWIS, HOWARD, JIANLIAN, THORNTON, MARTIN, HINRICH O.K.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

The problem was, is and will be Grunfeld and his poor draft picks, bad contracts and culture of losing that he has created in our city, in our team. We are a National joke and it's not the coach's fault. This team is the result of a pathetic job by Grunfeld and changing the coach will not change that. Grunfeld has to go!

Posted by: member8 | January 30, 2011 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but who's the scape-goat when things go wrong and you're the boss? The only salvation for this franchise is LEONSIS is watching.....and evaluating. Everybody needs a little more time.....and rope.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 30, 2011 8:43 AM | Report abuse

It's Nick's "nice" way of saying Flip can't coach.

One thing I have gotten on Flip since he's been here is his horrid subsitutions and lack of play calling down the stretch when it's most important. One night someone will play 20-25 minutes, and the next week they are DNP-Coaches Descision. You can't develope any chemistry like that.

Flip is losing the players and it's finally coming out. Nick is right, it can't be them every night. And blame EG for the Wiz being soft inside, that's the only type of players he seems to know about. No low-post and only shoots 3's.

They are built to FAIL! :)

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | January 30, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Nick Young, a complete bust of a draft pick for years is finally having a decent stat year and now he wants to throw the coach under the bus that didnt cut or trade him over the past couple of years??? I am not a Flip fan, but Young is a joke and is lucky he was soooo bad that we couldnt trade him over the past couple of years. On a very good team, he would be an after thought, he is lucky he gets to play for an aweful team so he can get on the floor. Please trade him ASAP, while he has some value, we need to stock up on 1st round picks and complete this rebuilding process sooner.

Posted by: cm88 | January 30, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

LOL I agree with all the responses. Micheal Lee is terrible, I am always confused as to how he got a job with The Washington Post & why everyone seems enamored with him. John Thompson & Doc Walker rave about him when he comes on there & he always sounds like he just woke up. Man has the Post really gone downhill between him & Mike Wise.

This team is a complete joke. The players don't get it. Outside of Wall our 2 best players are Blatche & Young which says it all right there. Flip is befuddled. Ernie has killed us with his bad drafts, & I will never forgive his firing of Eddie Jordan.

This team needs complete blow up from top to bottom.

Posted by: Darnell1 | January 30, 2011 9:03 AM | Report abuse

LOL I agree with all the responses. Micheal Lee is terrible, I am always confused as to how he got a job with The Washington Post & why everyone seems enamored with him. John Thompson & Doc Walker rave about him when he comes on there & he always sounds like he just woke up. Man has the Post really gone downhill between him & Mike Wise.

This team is a complete joke. The players don't get it. Outside of Wall our 2 best players are Blatche & Young which says it all right there. Flip is befuddled. Ernie has killed us with his bad drafts, & I will never forgive his firing of Eddie Jordan.

This team needs complete blow up from top to bottom.

Posted by: Darnell1 | January 30, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Flip is pretty terrible with the media, this was bound to happen. His extended comments were on nbaTV and he manages to say mostly all the wrong things when some standard coachspeak drivel would have sufficed.

Posted by: divi3 | January 30, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Apologies for the multiple entries; apparent glitch with the Insider software -- how surprising!

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:51 AM

Sucks when you call someone and idiot while doing something idiotic.

Posted by: mack1 | January 30, 2011 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, but who's the scape-goat when things go wrong and you're the boss? The only salvation for this franchise is LEONSIS is watching.....and evaluating. Everybody needs a little more time.....and rope.
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What the heck is Ted watching at this point? I'd say he's sleeping after exhausting himself cleaning out the urinals, evaluating beer holders in the bathrooms and evaluating the critical state of the ketchup and mustard near the concession stands. There isn't much positive to take from 0-23 except that the team is horrible.

Posted by: randysbailin | January 30, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

That was your basic butt-whipping. The Wiz were lucky to be within nine at the half and the third quarter just took it out of there hands entirely. When your leading scorer has 14 and your opponent has 11 more field goals -- well, you'd need a miracle to win.

Nick's comments -- what you get at this stage of a miserable season. A young scorer goes 2 for 9 in only 28 minutes and is visibly frustrated. The media pounce on that. I imagine he wanted to stay in and continue chucking in hopes of getting hot.

This was a terrible time for the Wiz to run into Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph. If you recall last season, we had trouble with Memphis inside then, too. The Grizz are one of the NBA's better home teams (14-7) and it showed tonight.

Next step in the gauntlet: Dallas.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 30, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

BTW, Zach Randolph is a pretty good illustration of the maxim that you don't need big hops to succeed on the boards.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 30, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Larry Brown.

He knows how to take a crappy team, get them to play together, and eventually get them to the playoffs (though, he eventually wears out his welcome). But, that's his specialty.

And....he's available.

Get this done, Ernie.

Period.

Posted by: ptp_er | January 30, 2011 9:20 AM | Report abuse

68 points in the paint last night for memphis, after 48pts in our win at VC. That's what happens when Javale is out and there isn't a viable alternative on the roster. Yi is getting softer by the day, would have liked to have seen more Keveen last night, getting he and Book PT should be a priority now.

Posted by: divi3 | January 30, 2011 9:20 AM | Report abuse

68 points in the paint last night for memphis, after 48pts in our win at VC. That's what happens when Javale is out and there isn't a viable alternative on the roster. Yi is getting softer by the day, would have liked to have seen more Keveen last night, getting he and Book PT should be a priority now.

Posted by: divi3 | January 30, 2011 9:21 AM | Report abuse

The truth is you can actually accidentally win a road game in the NBA. We've somehow figured out how to cheat something that just happens in the NBA. Catch a tired team, a lazy team who can't get up for a lousy team at home? Come on...

The culture needs to change here. New ownership, check, new GM? New coach? Can't fire the players people. Got rid of GA which was necessary... But we need new management.

Posted by: JSchon | January 30, 2011 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Nick was frustrated a rough night. The Wizards just have to go through the rough times and add valuable pieces from this summer and from the top down. If they dont work on improving the organization Wall will exit after his rookie contract is over.

Posted by: bonggong | January 30, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Nick was frustrated a rough night. The Wizards just have to go through the rough times and add valuable pieces from this summer and from the top down. If they dont work on improving the organization Wall will exit after his rookie contract is over.

Posted by: bonggong | January 30, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

CBA skills, NBA dollars, WWE mouth.

Question: what if Flip opened up the way these tween girls do? What do you think he'd say?

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | January 30, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

It should be knowledge to EG now that the players have called out the coach as the coach has been blaming players all seaon long. Finally, someone having the ballz to speak about what we see as we watch these games. Like I previously said, Detroit gave Flip a championship caliber team and he couldn't get it done there. Flip was overrated when he was brought here, now we see that Ernie is overrated as well but wait . . . we already knew that too.

Posted by: zack9633 | January 30, 2011 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Question: what if Flip opened up the way these tween girls do? What do you think he'd say?

Probably something along the lines of "For some reason, Nick had nothing tonight."

Posted by: divi3 | January 30, 2011 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Flip must go.Has learned nothing from his days of criticizing players in the media in Detroit. Listen to him and he is not responsible for any of these losses. Watch how childish he will respond over the next few days in the media. Ge him outta here

Posted by: ptp09 | January 30, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

No way this team had a chance to win this game coming of a 2OT loss the night before. Flip saved no one and you could tell that there wasn't much energy left from the night before.

I agree with NY as he finally seems to wanna speak up to the media now that he's stepped it up in a contract year for him but the teams frustration has probably always been there, now it's starting to surface in the media. AB probably would been the 1st one to speak up but pobably felt he'd get slam in the press.

Ernie, I think Flip is losing his players.

Posted by: zack9633 | January 30, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

maybe if nick young would stop being a ball hog get a jumper and learn how to play D we could get a win he is the one to blame no one else well maybe are point forward blatch and his cross over

Posted by: croniccured | January 30, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"If they dont work on improving the organization Wall will exit after his rookie contract is over."

Posted by: bonggong

Yo, being 1st overall pick means you're probably going to be on a team that has sucked over the previous yrs. He wouldn't have been in a much better position if he'd been selected by the other 2 bad teams philly or NJ. Last I checked 'zards has last to make the playoff of the three. Wall isn't going snywhere, it's just a matter of time before he goes to management to let them know that coach can't coach and I'm quite sure other players will be in his ear and he too will become the player that controls who coaches. Look for Calipari in the near future.

Posted by: zack9633 | January 30, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Nicks fustration was with Wall as well as Flip, Wall looked nick off 6 or 7 times, if nick goes to one side of the court wall goes away. Some one wrote on another blog that nick is fools gold, but you all think wall is the sh__t, fools gold, stats and fast don't lie, but it deceives, the #1 pick should change or make a difference, the wizards have gotten worse, i no it's the coach, true that, but wall ain't even the best point guard on the team,that arizona kid is. FLIP ain't leaving so i guess it's Nick, ya'll gonna see you don't even have a top 10 point in wall.

Posted by: maejude | January 30, 2011 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Larry Brown.

He knows how to take a crappy team, get them to play together, and eventually get them to the playoffs (though, he eventually wears out his welcome). But, that's his specialty.

And....he's available.

Get this done, Ernie.

Period.

Posted by: ptp_er

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He KNEW.

It's an open question whether he KNOWS any more how to do it.

His last two stops in New York and Charlotte call that into question.

As far as Nick Young's comments go, who knows. I'd be inclined to believe him though. Apparently Flip created a good game plan for OKC that Young had confidence in, not so much in Memphis.

I'd be curious to see Sam Cassell getting a shot as a head coach in the NBA at some-point. But I don't see any coaching changes taking place at this point.

Posted by: JPRS | January 30, 2011 11:45 AM | Report abuse

nick is part of the problem he shot 22pct last night 39 at okl and 7pct against bos wall was wide open under the basket and young shot his dumb ass fade away dude aint jordan yea the hole team needs help but i would get rid of everyone but wall megee and booker wall and megee have alot of cemestry i havent even seen a op been thrown since megee been out

Posted by: croniccured | January 30, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

the #1 pick should change or make a difference, the wizards have gotten worse, i no it's the coach, true that, but wall ain't even the best point guard on the team,that arizona kid is. FLIP ain't leaving so i guess it's Nick, ya'll gonna see you don't even have a top 10 point in wall.
Posted by: maejude

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ok, mom, got it. if flip and wall go, then nick stays.

hope nick finds a team that appreciates him. kinda think we won't be too disappointed in our pg.

Posted by: MinuMang | January 30, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Larry Brown.

He knows how to take a crappy team, get them to play together, and eventually get them to the playoffs (though, he eventually wears out his welcome). But, that's his specialty. Posted by: ptp_er

Yeah, just like he did in Charlotte?

Posted by: zack9633 | January 30, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The sooner you realize that this is NOT a good mix of players and a very bad team. Coach and players not a match either. I'm almost sure this team would lose to a D League team as it is just a shade better than a D league team. All of the blaming of players and coaching for its position is not neccessary.

Posted by: zack9633 | January 30, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how a lot of people are actually defending Flip, Flip sucks...Fact is fact, and one fact is that the team plays exactly how they practice, and who controls and runs the practice? Flip thats who, not Leonsis, and not Grunfield...Nick Young has been the only consistent scorer for this team all season, so how is he the problem? Nick finally said what a lot of us have known for quite some time...Flip is not good with young players, and he certainly can't develop them...Booker should have been playing from the jump, but flip didn't believe in him so he decided to play Yi instead, who has been a complete disappointment since he's been here...As soon as Hinrich is healthy enough to play, Mustafa Shakur just so happens to catch the flu, and doesn't play...And might I add that Shakur does a lot better job of running the team when Wall is out...Blatche still plays the game with a high school b-ball IQ...The failure of this team does not fall on Grunfield, you can say what you want, but the Wiz have a very talented team, talented enough to beat the Celtics, Jazz, and pretty much the Heat although they lost that game due to poor game management by none other that Flip Saunders himself...The coach and his staff is responsible for the development of the players, and there hasn't been any development...Although Wall is playing with an injured knee and foot, I guarantee anyone that Wall will become a much better player playing for a coach that really knows what he's doing...Flip is stunting the growth of our young team, and any of you who don't see that, well lets just say that i'm not too sure about your b-ball IQ as well

Posted by: babycas2000 | January 30, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Nick has a point, it was just the wrong night to bring it up. What they ran might have been an issue last night, but the biggest problem to me looked like they just didn't have the energy. Understandable on one level based on some of the minutes guys played in OKC.

Would have liked to see Big Serf matched up with Randolph. Those are the kinds of guys he's going to face. I thought Booker did a good job of playing him tough, but he killed everyone else on the boards.

McGee would have helped some with the paint points, but it seemed like they got an inordinate amount of them from their 2 and 3 cutting to open spots under the hoop. Some were off of screens, but it seemed like our 2s and 3s (and Wall) were falling asleep a bit too much.

The Grizz also do a great job of setting moving screens that are apparently immune from being called as such by the refs. One play (in the 3rd I think) Gasol was setting a pick at the top and literally moved 3 steps in the course of setting the pick.

Posted by: ts35 | January 30, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, Darrell Arthur wins last night's award for "Random Opposing Player who has a Career Night Against the Wiz"

Posted by: ts35 | January 30, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Wall looked Nick off so many times because Nick jacks it up every time he gets it. We need a new system, we need to play Booker more, and Wall needs to learn how to get to the hole and pressure the ball. Also we need to get tougher big men. Why get 7 footers that can only take and miss long 2's? We are using different players with the same old Wizards results.

Posted by: dcu99 | January 30, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Wall looked Nick off so many times because Nick jacks it up every time he gets it. We need a new system, we need to play Booker more, and Wall needs to learn how to get to the hole and pressure the ball. Also we need to get tougher big men. Why get 7 footers that can only take and miss long 2's? We are using different players with the same old Wizards results.

Posted by: dcu99 | January 30, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@Michael Lee: "Sure, JaVale McGee wasn't around because of the flu and Andray Blatche was sick as well -- he complained after the game that he was feeling dizzy --but that is ridiculous."

This probably is one of Michael Lee's more idiotic/uninformed statements -- and he's had plenty of them.

Posted by: Fief1 | January 30, 2011 7:48 AM | Report abuse

AMEN!!! I have been saying this for nearly 2 years. Michael Lee is a complete and utter joke of a reporter. The guy has no business being employed as a writer, much less a writer for a prominent newspaper. Sure, he is not very bright--that much is obvious. But you don't have to be Albert Einstein to be a beat reporter. An objective, literate writer with some semblance of common sense would do just fine. Unfortunately, that's where Lee falls short. Anyone with any common sense can see that when the Wizards are missing Javale McGee, they are going to struggle immensely in the front court. It is not "ridiculous" when teams dominate the Wiz in the paint when McGee is out. To the contrary, it's actually to be expected.

Fire Michael Lee, it's way past the time.

Posted by: Barno1 | January 30, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"Everybody came out forced, like we got to get this done, and that forced us to play different."

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the above is more of the quotation from young (in Lee's game story, not on the blog).

so obviously nick was saying, or trying to say, more than he just thought the coaches should have used the same game plan they used in OKC.

hard to make any real sense of these quotes.


Posted by: MinuMang | January 30, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I guess the wheels are finally starting to fall off of Flop's wagon. It's about time.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 30, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

All the Flip bashing is hilarious to me. Look at the facts people. Flip has the 9th best winning percentage of any coach currently in the NBA. Fact. The guy with the best winning percentage is quickly dropping down the list as he is the coach of the NJ Nets - no talent.

The bottom line is if you don't have the talent you won't win. "Rebuilding" inherently implies that there is not a whole lot of talent on the current roster. And, a marginally good player like NY mouthing off is a joke. He is a classic example of somewhat talented player putting up big numbers on a bad team. Place him on a top 5 team and he is probably still just a bench player albeit a nice luxury.

And, as some have pointed out, if you couldn't see that performance coming you are crazy. They just went to double overtime the night before and AB was sick as well as JM for the game. A bad loss was inevitable.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

All the Flip bashing is hilarious to me. Look at the facts people. Flip has the 9th best winning percentage of any coach currently in the NBA. Fact. The guy with the best winning percentage is quickly dropping down the list as he is the coach of the NJ Nets - no talent.

The bottom line is if you don't have the talent you won't win. "Rebuilding" inherently implies that there is not a whole lot of talent on the current roster. And, a marginally good player like NY mouthing off is a joke. He is a classic example of somewhat talented player putting up big numbers on a bad team. Place him on a top 5 team and he is probably still just a bench player albeit a nice luxury.

And, as some have pointed out, if you couldn't see that performance coming you are crazy. They just went to double overtime the night before and AB was sick as well as JM for the game. A bad loss was inevitable.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

All the Flip bashing is hilarious to me. Look at the facts people. Flip has the 9th best winning percentage of any coach currently in the NBA. Fact. The guy with the best winning percentage is quickly dropping down the list as he is the coach of the NJ Nets - no talent.

The bottom line is if you don't have the talent you won't win. "Rebuilding" inherently implies that there is not a whole lot of talent on the current roster. And, a marginally good player like NY mouthing off is a joke. He is a classic example of somewhat talented player putting up big numbers on a bad team. Place him on a top 5 team and he is probably still just a bench player albeit a nice luxury.

And, as some have pointed out, if you couldn't see that performance coming you are crazy. They just went to double overtime the night before and AB was sick as well as JM for the game. A bad loss was inevitable.

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

One click three posts. How efficient!

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What amazes me is that some of you think Ernie Grunfeld was right in firing Eddie Jordan, that just gives credence to what i stated the day Jordan was fired and i don't want to hear that bulls_it that he didn't do anything in Philly that has nothing to do with how he was undermined by Grunfeld here in DC. The stupidity that Grunfeld has displayed over the last three years would have gotten must GM's a one way ticket out of town. Nick Young's remarks show the level of frustration that is now engulfing this team but don't look for Leonsis to fire Flip look truth be told Ted Leonsis can't afford to fire Flip monetarily speaking. I don't know the particular's of Flip's contract but i'm sure Ted would have to pay a large portion of whatever remains on Saunders contract like i stated the other day this whole situation is a cluster you know what and it isn't getting any better like i said................................. I TOLD YOU SO!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | January 30, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

@DARGREG,

Just shut up!

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Fellow Bloggers:

I think the Eddie Jordan firing was needed at the time, because of managements in ability to get him the players to fit his system. The fact are the system Eddie was succesful in had Jason Kid a pure point guard to be replaced with Gilbert Areanas (Scorer). Kerry Kittles a shooter to be replaced with Deshawn Stevenson (Non shooter). Richard Jefferson-All Star and Role player-Caron Butler -Often injured often bitter small forward. Kenyon Martin Rebounder and Defensive Stopper replaced with AJ-All shooting no defense,Non-role player. Collins at center was a role player that was able to clog up the middle.
Brendan Haywood was a role player that was convinced he had allstar talent

Posted by: specialg7master | January 30, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Flip is an idiot and the play calling is quite baffling. Get ready for a long second half because as long as he is coach, this is what we got. Call me naive but I still believe this group of players are better than then what we have seen. Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: ivyleague | January 30, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Methinks that NY comments are beginning of his efforts to get traded this season.

Posted by: iliwai34 | January 30, 2011 6:25 PM | Report abuse

"We've got to be consistent really," Young said. "We got to work on just staying together really. I think that's what's making us go out there and play this way. Everyone feels they can change the game and be a game changer. We've just got to stay consistent with what we was running. We should've carried over what we had against the Thunder. We should've came out excited and ready to pump and going with the same routine."

Based on that I have to think it's a good think Nick Young doesn't get to choose the game plan. Use the "same routine" against Memphis as they did against OKC? Yeah, because those two teams are so incredibly similar, right? Please. OKC is a jumpshooting/dribble penetration team with almost no inside presence. The Grizzlies have two big interior targets in Gasol and Randolph. You can't use the "same routine" against both teams. That's riiculous. That's the whole point of having a game plan, so you can adapt to the opponent.

"It can't be us every night."

If that represents the kind of strategic thinking going on in the locker room, I'm thinking it can be.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 30, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse

FIRE FLIP SAUNDERS and FIRE ERNIE GRUNFIELD NOW!!! NICK YOUNG is the cornerstone, so they need build around him not JOHN WALL... Because John Wall is young and he's still learning therefore he SUCKS right now!!!!

Posted by: pusha-d | January 30, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Methinks that NY comments are beginning of his efforts to get traded this season. Posted by: iliwai34

Then more power to him.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 30, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

NICK YOUNG is the cornerstone, so they need build around him
Posted by: pusha-d

This is a joke, right? |

Posted by: nmik | January 30, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

FIRE FLIP SAUNDERS and FIRE ERNIE GRUNFIELD NOW!!! NICK YOUNG is the cornerstone, so they need build around him not JOHN WALL... Because John Wall is young and he's still learning therefore he SUCKS right now!!!!
Posted by: pusha-d

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oh, yeah, sure.

wall's learning but young doesn't need to learn any more cause he thinks the team should utilize the same game plan every time they play.

Posted by: MinuMang | January 30, 2011 7:21 PM | Report abuse

rphilli721: It bothers you that i am right doesn't it?

Posted by: dargregmag | January 30, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

In Flip's defense (?) how many Wizard players--if generally healthy (not fully, because no NBA player over the course of a lengthy season will ever be what any of us would call ourselves as "healthy")--would receive serious playtime on the top ten teams?

Posted by: iliwai34 | January 30, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Read the article in the Post on O'brien's firing with the Pacers and replace O'brien's name with Saunders, It's amazing how well the article resembles what is going on with the Wizards. It's time for Ted to make a move. Charlotte did it and now Indiana did it.

Posted by: bobilly1 | January 30, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

"In Flip's defense (?) how many Wizard players--if generally healthy (not fully, because no NBA player over the course of a lengthy season will ever be what any of us would call ourselves as "healthy")--would receive serious playtime on the top ten teams?"

Posted by: iliwai34 | January 30, 2011 8:05 PM

Define "serious." I could see some of the vets (Lewis, Hinrich, Howard) in the regular rotation and getting significant burn, but they wouldn't be starters on most of them (maybe Howard or Lewis in Dallas, but that's only because Butler is hurt). As for the young guys, Wall, Young, or McGee might get 15 mpg or so off the bench of some of the teams at the bottom of the top 10.

That's pretty much it. There's really not a player on the roster who would be a first option selection as starter on a quality playoff team, and only one (Wall) who has a significant chance of developing into one.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 30, 2011 10:09 PM | Report abuse

"One click three posts. How efficient!

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 30, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse "

Say it enough time and someone's bound to believe you...not me tho. Both Flop and Grunfeld need to go.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | January 30, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Some of you guys comments about Nick Young are ridiculous the Wizards have never had the right people in place to develop any of there draft picks. When was the last time we Had a Draft pick progress while he was here with the organization. It seems all of our picks get better once they leave. Nick Young was never given a chance. Now that he is forced to play young guys like Nick Young and Javale Mcgee everyone once to say that they finally got thats BS these guys have talent you have to know how to use it. Trevor Booker should be starting look how he has played now that you have a couple of injuries on the team. Flip Saunders is not the right coach for a young team. You have to be willing to go through the growing pains with a young team and not worry about wins and loses. Flip Saunders needs to let the core of our future play together and we could have something special 3 years from now. John Wall, Nick Young, Trevor Booker, Javale Mcgee should get the most time and then use this years high draft pick to get a small forward. The one thing that I worry about is if we don't fix the front office and coaching you can kiss John Wall good bye!

Posted by: REPINDC4LIFE | January 31, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Nick was right, they should have, because the one they used dam show didn't work.

Posted by: maejude | January 31, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

at the guy who wants Larry Brown: are you out of your mind? yeh, he's a helluva coach, but he's also a tyrant and a crybaby who QUIT on his team in Charlotte. Mike gave him every player he asked for that was available and Larry screwed it up. LARRY was responsible for trading their point guard, Raymond Felton and center Tyson Chandler. I respect Larry, but nahh, keep hiz butt wayyyy off in the sunset where he belongs.

Posted by: dcjazzman | January 31, 2011 1:06 PM | Report abuse

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