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Posted at 6:33 PM ET, 01/ 8/2011

Open thread: Wizards (9-25) at Bobcats (12-21)

By Michael Lee

The Wizards are 0-17 on the road this season and they haven't won a game in Charlotte since Dec. 26, 2007, a string of four consecutive losses. But some of the Wizards should feel at home on Saturday, with John Wall, Andray Blatche, Josh Howard, Trevor Booker and even Cartier Martin having some local ties. Wall, a native of Raleigh, needed to buy about 35 tickets for the game and also had the support of people from his high school, Word of God Academy. "It's a lot of people here," Wall said. "I played high school here, middle school ball. To have a chance to be on the top level, the biggest level possible and have people come out, it means a whole lot." Blatche's mother, Angela Oliver, resides nearby in South Carolina and needed 15 tickets. Howard, a former Wake Forest star from Winston-Salem, will not play because of his sore left knee but still needed 50. Booker, a native of Whitmore, S.C., said he would have about 50 people supporting him but only bought eight tickets. "I'm a rookie," Booker said, explaining why he didn't splurge on ticket purchases. "If they want to see me, they'll pay." Martin made his NBA debut with the Bobcats The Bobcats are 3-2 since replacing Larry Brown with Paul Silas on Dec. 22, only two days after the Wizards claimed their most lopsided win of the season, 108-75, at Verizon Center.

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Tipoff: 7 p.m.; TV: CSN; Radio: 106.7 FM.

Check out a live box score from tonight's game here.

By Michael Lee  | January 8, 2011; 6:33 PM ET
Categories:  John Wall, Josh Howard  
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Comments

Well, it looks like we might have a couple hundred Wiz supporters tonight, after all. Most in on freebies, but hey, those are the best kind.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 8, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"Booker, a native of Whitmore, S.C., said he would have about 50 people supporting him but only bought eight tickets. "I'm a rookie," Booker said, explaining why he didn't splurge on ticket purchases. "If they want to see me, they'll pay."

Ha! I'm liking this kid more and more.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 8, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Looks like we get to see Kwame Brown -- some sort of poetic justice involved, no doubt.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 8, 2011 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Call me crazy but when we got off to that great start, I was thinking that we need to save some for this game. Therefore I was actually glad that the Nets made a bit of a run a couple of times. I could see us in typical Wiz fashion just thrashing them from the jump, some of us maybe thinking they turned the corner, just to lay down a futile effort against the Bobcats with the worst D ever.

Now they we had to work some for it, I think that will again make us focused for tonight. It sucks that we didnt get to rest guys but fatigue shouldnt be a factor when youre 0-17 on the road and havent won 2 games in a row all season. You should be able to fight through it. Here’s seeing if they can. Jax & Wallace always kills us and they are playing alot better without Brown. Lets see if our 2 new fan favorites in NY & Lewis can give those guys the same problems they ususally give us.

It would be great if we had Howard to matchup with them also but thats probably a long shot. Thorton or Booker will need to step up. If we go small some with Wall & Kirk, hopefully Jax doesnt kill us in the post. They will be active, physical, and hustle alot. If we can match that then we will be ok. Here’s hoping that Dray has started to turn the corner and I think Wall could go for like 18 & 12 tonight or more tonight back in front of the hometown crowd.

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

man I love Seraphin. Just has a nose for the ball. Bout time he gets into the regular rotation

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I see Wall being much more aggressive, trying to put on a show for the home crowd

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Dray Dray Dray (in the famous Florida Evans Damn Damn Damn voice)

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 7:52 PM | Report abuse

thats it Dray, finish towards the basket sometimes instead of fading away

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Not a terrible first half. The rebound deficit is the biggest concern. Of course with the Wiz on the road, it's later in the second half that worries people...

Posted by: Samson151 | January 8, 2011 8:17 PM | Report abuse

worst 4th quarter team in the history of sports

Posted by: dlts2041 | January 8, 2011 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Great inspired defense against those powerhouse Nets last night...

Guess we're seeing more of it tonight in Charlotte, only not by the Wiz....

Posted by: pentagon40 | January 8, 2011 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Flip showed them that film again but accidentally ran it backwards.

Instead of the buffaloe coming to the rescue of the stranded one, they all ran away and abandoned it.

At this point, anything makes sense.

Posted by: SteveMG | January 8, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

N. Young 23:19 Mins
K. Hinrich 32:15 Mins

Flip ?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 8, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz were behind by 6 entering the fourth quarter.

As they say in NC: "Gentlemen -- Start Your Overreactions"

Posted by: Samson151 | January 8, 2011 10:11 PM | Report abuse

This team is clearly out of control. They can't or won't learn and many of them obviously don't care. Not only do they not know how to win, winning is not a priority with them.

Giving Blatche that rich extension may have been the worst move of all.

It's a terrible start for Wall, Seraphim and Booker and you gotta wonder what Hinrich, Howard, and the other two pros are thinking. Clean the joint out!

Posted by: joe2chase | January 8, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

They will not beat any teams of note i.e. teams with winning records, and the Bobcats who feel rejuvenated under new coach Paul Silas( dude could clean some glass) are not gonna let a team like the Wizards beat them at home especially with the Wiz being a zero on the road.

Posted by: dargregmag | January 8, 2011 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Another poor start, and the bigs went back to stinking. Why Blatche bought tickets for that is beyond me. Haven't seen Nick Young have such a bad game in a long time. Gerald Henderson dominated him tonight. The bench played pretty well, though.

Posted by: djnnnou | January 8, 2011 10:30 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz were behind by 6 entering the fourth quarter.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 8, 2011 10:11 PM | Report abuse

and the score in the 4th quarter was...

Cha 27
Was 18

Good thing Kirk was in the game?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 8, 2011 10:33 PM | Report abuse

BF78, I don't get your beef with Kirk Hinrich. He was the best wizard playing tonight. Blatche was a bum, again. I'm not sure why he's allowed to make mistake after mistake without being pulled from the game.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | January 8, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

So is everyone okay with our starting C playing 25 minutes and only grabbing one rebound?

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 8, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

So is everyone okay with our starting C playing 25 minutes and only grabbing one rebound?

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 8, 2011 11:14 PM

Yeah, I'm okay with that as long as you're okay with o'fur on the road as being par for the course on this rebuilding team of Flip's.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 8, 2011 11:53 PM | Report abuse

"So is everyone okay with our starting C playing 25 minutes and only grabbing one rebound?Posted by: kalo_rama"

Call me crazy, but maybe that's why he only played 25 minutes.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 12:14 AM | Report abuse

BF78, I don't get your beef with Kirk Hinrich. He was the best wizard playing tonight.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | January 8, 2011 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a beef with Kirk...

I have a problem with the organizations philosophy.

How does it help a young team to play a guy like Kirk more mins when Wall and Young need to play together?

The team didn't win and Kirk played 9 more mins then Nick.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 9, 2011 12:19 AM | Report abuse

So is everyone okay with our starting SF who makes $20,514,000 a year playing 28 minutes and only scoring 4 points ?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | January 9, 2011 12:24 AM | Report abuse

This is the second time that Flip benches a player for showing some spunk on the floor. Nick gets benched and in comes Hinrich. So what Hinrich played well.
They still lost the game and Flip looses with his players for benching Nick. You have to stand behind your players when other teams try to punk them and they refused to be punked. Good for Nick and the 2nd Flip doesn't show support for his players.

Earlier in the season, I forget which player it was but he also showed some spunk against another player

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 9, 2011 12:35 AM | Report abuse

"The team didn't win and Kirk played 9 more mins then Nick.Posted by: bulletsfan78"

Looked to me like Kirk was playing better than Nick.

"is everyone okay with our starting SF who makes $20,514,000 a year playing 28 minutes and only scoring 4 points?
Posted by: bulletsfan78"

LOL the worst part is, he outrebounded our starting center, 7 to 1.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line, this team really really sucks! For every game where they show promise, they come back with 2 games of shame. Didn't watch but half of the game (thank God there was NFL playoffs) didn't look like the same team that played NJ Nets. Flip not consistant with rotation but maybe he's still tweek'n to find a rotation. We're better off watching "Wizards of the Past".

Posted by: zack5 | January 9, 2011 12:38 AM | Report abuse

Edit, submit got hit by mistake.

This is the second time that Flip benches a player for showing some spunk on the floor. Nick gets benched and in comes Hinrich. So what Hinrich played well.
They still lost the game and Flip looses with his players for benching Nick. You have to stand behind your players when other teams try to punk them and they refused to be punked. Good for Nick and this is the 2nd time Flip doesn't show support for his players.

The first time was last season when the Wiz was getting beat in the 4th Q when Haywood gets into it with another player and he gets benched by Flip.

Flip just doesn't get it.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 9, 2011 12:41 AM | Report abuse

"You have to stand behind your players when other teams try to punk them and they refused to be punked.posted by LarryInClintonMD"

This isn't the Goodman League.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 12:43 AM | Report abuse

To the pundits who say that changing coaches will not make a difference for this team, I wonder what the prospective hire would feel about that, and did Paul Silas think that he could make a difference when he was hired to replace Larry Brown???

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 9, 2011 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Typical birds chirping and in BF78's case without even seeing the game. He learns oh so much by looking at a box score. What a smuck!

NY sucked tonight. Worst game of the night.

And, at this point, McGee is incapable of playing consistently. He fluctuates between somewhat above average at times to horrible with occasional flashes of excellence.

Dumbest play of the game. We make a couple of hoops and chipping away at the lead. Charlotte misses...ball going out of bounds...JM tries to save the day by scooping the ball just feet from the floor...you guessed it out of bounds on us. The Charlotte play by play guys called it one of the dumbest plays they've seen in a while and speculated JM must have just wanted the rebound. He almost had two!

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 9, 2011 1:21 AM | Report abuse

"Yeah, I'm okay with that as long as you're okay with o'fur on the road as being par for the course on this rebuilding team of Flip's."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 8, 2011 11:53 PM

Then I guess we're all good. Woo-hoo!

"Call me crazy, but maybe that's why he only played 25 minutes."

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 12:14 AM

True, but that doesn't actually account for why he only grabbed 1 rebound in 25 minutes. It only explains why he didn't grab only 1 rebound in 30 minutes.

"The Charlotte play by play guys called it one of the dumbest plays they've seen in a while and speculated JM must have just wanted the rebound. He almost had two!"

Posted by: rphilli721 | January 9, 2011 1:21 AM

Well, as long as he tried.

Posted by: kalo_rama | January 9, 2011 1:45 AM | Report abuse

If Flip had not benched NY when he tangled with Gerald Henderson, we don't know whether or not that would not have put a fire into him. How many times have we seen a player get spurred by a tangle on the court with another player.

But Flip doesn't do emotion, so he promptly benches Nick.

And so RP, if you aren't one of the typical birds on the board, then what bird are you, atypical?

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | January 9, 2011 1:56 AM | Report abuse

"The Charlotte play by play guys called it one of the dumbest plays they've seen in a while and speculated JM must have just wanted the rebound. He almost had two!"
Posted by: rphilli721"

Yes but, if he wasn't on the court, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to make the error, and then he wouldn't have learned from it, would he? That's why you must never take a young player out of the game for any reason.

Unless one of the coaches finally loses it and hits him over the head with a bucket, of course. Then you should call the ambulance.

Well, as long as he tried.

Posted by: kalo_rama

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Apologies for that last fragment -- post should have ended after 'ambulance'.

Posted by: Samson151 | January 9, 2011 8:55 AM | Report abuse

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