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Posted at 8:05 AM ET, 02/25/2011

Bibby, Evans and Crawford expected to debut tonight

By Michael Lee
Morning brew

The newest Wizards -- Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans and Jordan Crawford -- are expected to debut against the Miami Heat on Friday night at American Airlines Arena. They left Phoenix and joined the Wizards in Miami on Thursday and will be asked to help a team that has lost three in a row and 12 of its past 14 games.

"I think Bibby is a solid veteran player, a real clutch player, he has a lot of experience. He's an outstanding outside shooter. Mo Evans is a competitive swingman with great character, very good in the locker room. And with Jordan Crawford, we get a good prospect who has a chance to develop," Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld said.

Bibby is expected to fill the role as a veteran point guard to possibly assist John Wall through his adventurous rookie season. Bibby has some experience with losing big early in his career. He went 8-42 his rookie season with the Vancouver Grizzlies and had at least 59 losses in his next two seasons. But he has grown accustomed to winning in Sacramento and Atlanta, where he was on a combined five 50-win teams and made eight playoff appearances, including one trip to the Western Conference Finals.

That's part of the reason why the 32-year-old Bibby was upset about being dealt from a playoff contender in Atlanta to a lottery team in Washington. But his agent, David Falk, said Bibby would make the best of a difficult situation. "I think in a perfect world, if he could go to the Boston Celtics or Los Angeles Lakers, he'd like to do that. I'm not sure those opportunities are available," Falk said. "It's difficult to go from a playoff team to a non-playoff team, but he's a professional. We'll sit down in the summer and see what makes sense. It's not like he's going to be there for the next five years. He'll probably get the same role that Kirk Hinrich had, be a mentor for John."

Evans has been a journeyman, playing for six teams in eight seasons, and he has crossed paths with Coach Flip Saunders in Minnesota and Detroit, and with Rashard Lewis in Orlando. "A solid player," said Lewis. "A guy who can come of the bench and give you energy and points."

Crawford received limited opportunities in Atlanta, where Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford received most of the minutes at shooting guard. He is expected to have an opportunity to showcase his talents with a rebuilding team in Washington. The trio won't get the easiest adjustment with its first three games coming against Miami, Dallas and Chicago, three of the five teams in the NBA with at least 40 wins.

"I hope they can come in and give us the effort and the little things we need," Andray Blatche said of the new arrivals, who were acquired at halftime of the Wizards' 117-94 loss in Philadelphia two days ago.

FROM THE POST
As yesterday's trade deadline passed quietly for the Wizards, team President Ernie Grunfeld said said he is pleased with the progress the team has made over the past year.

Columnist Tracee Hamilton understands that the Kirk Hinrich trade won't yield any instant results on the court -- that wasn't the intent. But the Wizards' failure to hustle, improve or close out games is truly problematic.

Box seats blogger Kevin Broom thinks the Wizards should have pushed for more trades before yesterday's deadline passed.

Mike Bibby leaves Team Dime (DC Sports Bog).

AROUND THE WEB
Kyle Weidie explains why the Hinrich trade was necessary (Truth About It).

Marc J. Spears sums up the trade deadline winners and losers -- which includes declaring the Thunder winners for acquiring Kendrick Perkins from the Celtics for Jeff Green (Yahoo!Sports).

Gregg Doyel says NBA owners have to lock out the players, for the long-term good of the game (CBSSports.com).

By Michael Lee  | February 25, 2011; 8:05 AM ET
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Comments


Ernest Grunfeld is valiantly steering this team in the right direction and now counts the GM of Atlanta among his latest victims. Do you tone-deaf haters realize that Ernest received two first-round picks for Hinrich, who only played here for four months?

The Grunfled Era is going about as well as possible, considering the injuries and roster turnover. Bravo, Ernest!

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | February 25, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

The Grunfled Era is going about as well as possible, considering the injuries and roster turnover. Bravo, Ernest!

In Grunfeld We Trust!!

Posted by: melodious_thunk | February 25, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

a team that has lost three in a row and 12 of its past 14 games.

15-41 1-27 on the road....

Other then Wall none of Ernie's other draft picks McGee, Young, Blatche and/or Seraphin have shown they are playoff caliber talent.

Bibby is expected to fill the role as a veteran point guard to possibly assist John Wall through his adventurous rookie season.

Are you kidding me...how about a coaching change then.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 25, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I am pleased with his trades. The Hinrich/Seraphin trade. The Yi trade(even though Yi is another softee), because of what he gave up to get him(nothing). This years trade to acquire Crawford and a 1st.

But until his non-lottery picks turn out to be more than finesse, underachievers, Grunfeld can not be graded higher than a C at best. Yes Nick, Blatche, and JaVale were selected where they should have been based on NBA readiness/potential, but from the neck up, Ernie should have seen that they aren't competitive. He should have put more weight on a players competitive fire and basketball iq. And I don't blame that solely on Gilbert. Like J-Wall said, I competed all my life. These guys don't compete.

So, as for that 2nd first round pick, I say fire Ernie before the draft and let somebody else make the selections.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"But until his non-lottery picks turn out to be more than finesse, underachievers, Grunfeld can not be graded higher than a C at best. Yes Nick, Blatche, and JaVale were selected where they should have been based on NBA readiness/potential, but from the neck up, Ernie should have seen that they aren't competitive."

I think once you get out of the lottery, most carry a definite flaw. Guys like Nick and Javale who are obviously talented but maybe not as fierce as you'd like, versus warrior-types who are undersized or skill-challenged, or the great unknowns from overseas. If you look at who the Wiz might have picked INSTEAD of Nick or Javale -- Aaron Brooks or Glen Davis in '07, Serge Ibaka or George Hill in '08 -- you have to acknowledge those were every bit as big a gamble as Young or McGee. All took a couple seasons to show much return, and are complementary types who might not have shown as well in another setting.

As far as busts, I'd start with Pecherov. He really never showed anything here. But Blatche, Young, McGee, guys like Dom McGuire, those are good selections for where they were slotted. Nick and Javale may yet turn into something good for Washington. Blatche took a big step backwards, but apparently they're willing to give the kid another shot.

To me, it's an object lesson about the problems of finishing around .500 for several seasons in a row and not being able to replenish your stars before they fade.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

"I hope they can come in and give us the effort and the little things we need," Andray Blatche said of the new arrivals, who were acquired at halftime of the Wizards' 117-94 loss in Philadelphia two days ago.

Memo to Andrei - If you want to see a player who is NOT giving the effort and little things, take a look in the mirror....

Posted by: pk24 | February 25, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

So it appears that Sacramento Kings owners, the Maloof brothers, are preparing to ask for permission to move the team this year -- or so says Sac mayor Kevin Johnson, formerly of the Phoenix Suns.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Apparently the Maloofs have their eye on Anaheim's Honda Center as their new home. I'm sure the Lakers will object. There are other cities that would be interested, but don't have arenas ready.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Hey Andray...How about you come in and give the effort the team needs.

Posted by: VaWizard85 | February 25, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Baltche says the right things and has a high basketball iq. He has great court vision and really good ball handling for a guy his size. Yet, he too often becomes a ball stopper, taking shots that are out of the flow of the offense. He just doesn't know what effort and heart are at this point. "Lackadraysical" just needs a perpetual strong kick in the pants and to be fined for taking fadeaway jumpshots.

Posted by: audacitea | February 25, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

@bulletsfan78,

I'm on record as saying that Flip Saunders is not a good fit for this team and the current personnel. Call me crazy (take a number and get in line), but I think this team could be flirting with a .500 record if the Wizards had a coach whose system fit the talent available. Our young tigers have not been completely unleashed and therefore do not believe in Flip, imho. Even the most casual observer can discern with clarity that Flip's schemes, gameplans, lineup shuffling, etc. leave a lot to be desired.

There is no way that Flip Saunders will be here when Ernest turns things around.

Posted by: melodious_thunk | February 25, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

@bulletsfan78,

I'm on record as saying that Flip Saunders is not a good fit for this team and the current personnel. Call me crazy (take a number and get in line), but I think this team could be flirting with a .500 record if the Wizards had a coach whose system fit the talent available. Our young tigers have not been completely unleashed and therefore do not believe in Flip, imho. Even the most casual observer can discern with clarity that Flip's schemes, gameplans, lineup shuffling, etc. leave a lot to be desired.

There is no way that Flip Saunders will be here when Ernest turns things around.

Posted by: melodious_thunk | February 25, 2011 10:29 AM | Report abuse

k, youre crazy

Posted by: rc2223 | February 25, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Samson01

I think once you get out of the lottery, most carry a definite flaw. Guys like Nick and Javale who are obviously talented but maybe not as fierce as you'd like, versus warrior-types who are undersized or skill-challenged, or the great unknowns from overseas. If you look at who the Wiz might have picked INSTEAD of Nick or Javale -- Aaron Brooks or Glen Davis in '07, Serge Ibaka or George Hill in '08 -- you have to acknowledge those were every bit as big a gamble as Young or McGee. All took a couple seasons to show much return, and are complementary types who might not have shown as well in another setting.

As far as busts, I'd start with Pecherov. He really never showed anything here. But Blatche, Young, McGee, guys like Dom McGuire, those are good selections for where they were slotted. Nick and Javale may yet turn into something good for Washington. Blatche took a big step backwards, but apparently they're willing to give the kid another shot.

To me, it's an object lesson about the problems of finishing around .500 for several seasons in a row and not being able to replenish your stars before they fade.

Posted by: Samson151

I agree. But Grunfeld hit no homers, no triples, no doubles, barely a single. He mostly struck out. Pechorov was a mistake. Ernie struck out. Boston took Rhondo and hit a homerun. Sure we had Arenas. But we also had a finesse 7fter in Blatche on the roster as well. Marc Gasol was selected right after we took Dominique McGuire. Was that a mistake? Dom is not a starter in this league but Marc Gasol is legit. Ernie passed on Landry Fields 2 times. Time will tell if that was a mistake. Hopefully Seraphin and Booker will prove worthy over time.

In college you got one and doners. Wall was one of those. Then last years lottery pick ended up being the NBA version of one and doners in Mike Miller and Randy Foye. That was another strikeout.

Ernie has to bare some responsibility for this mess.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

@Samson 151,

The Sacto move, for me, underlines a pet peeve I have in regards to the image that somehow the Superfriends and Melo are sabotaging the league and foreboding doom for all small market teams.

The Maloofs threw a hissy fit because the city won't build them a new arena.
Seattle lost the Sonics because a city won't fork over $100 of millions to build an arena.
No one wants to buy the Hornets and keep them in New Orleans.

But no one is calling out greedy owners as part of the problem.

The NBA is making money. Ratings for the playoffs last year were up. And have been up because the Lakers have been in them.

The owners need to accept a better revenue sharing plan or face the fact that more teams are going to migrate to the larger markets and leech off the more profitable fan bases.

So, Kings to Anaheim. Nets to Brooklyn.
Timberwolves to Chicago?

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 25, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I heard an evaluation of McGee in reference to his spat with Randy Wittman. It was being said that all the coaches to a degree are constantly on McGee for making the same little mistakes over and over again out on the floor.

One could draw that McGee was being diplomatic in explaining his actions by saying he was tired of loosing but maybe he is getting tired of the constant barage of criticisms of his subpar play by the staff.

We have to ask ourselves the question.

How much do we mold a player to an ideal and how much of what the player really is do we just have to let be?

Has Flip ever thought that McGee is just a special talent? A talent that you just let leave alone to a degree. A talent that you kinda have to let it find its own way to a degree. A talent that you give rope too and then you reign it in to a degree.

Has it ever crossed their minds that they may be approaching the development of McGee in the wrong way?

From my observation, McGee is a freak of nature type athlete. He is a 7ft, running and jumping machine. He jumps out of the gym. Most big men don't have big hops like McGee, exception of course being Howard.

But yet they want Mcgee to play a controlled 7ft center game.

My observation is that they are asking McGee to play like an experienced NBA center, something he isn't as of yet.

My bet is, they would get more production and more good things on the floor from McGee if they gave in to his talents more and let him be free to play more of his own volition rather than the tight box they would like to see him in.

McGee is being reigned in too tightly. Flip Saunders and his system is choking this young talent and it seems he has all his assistants doing the same.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 25, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

@LarryInClintonMD

agree completly, mcgee is critizied too much, hes not a traditional center..yet. just let him play to his strength and stop critisizing him all the time. for some reason blatche is never yanked for his poor play. young use to be yanked til flip had no other choice but to let him play, so flip shouldnt even get credit for young improving. wish we could get a real big mans coach. mcgee is the second most prized asset to this team behind wall.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 25, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

The cutaway by Gregg Doyel is interesting.

It kind of sums up why the same Teams always float to the top and why big markets are where the players want to play.

Washington should be one of those big market destinations. Baltimore, as well should really have a Team by now. Maybe Sacramento should give serious consideration to it.

The bottom line is it takes vision and a success at all cost kind of approach and the unyielding desire that you can do it and win it all.

For too long this market hasn't had that. Mr. Leonsis seems to think that he can win it all. He is moving with all deliberate speed so far, though. Like that phrase SDMDTSU. Seems that he hasn't ruled out that Flip Saunders cannot be a part of all this.

We should not continue to waist time with Flip. It is obvious to everyone that he will not take this Team anywhere and things are not getting better with him.

My objective observation of his coaching here is an unequivocal failure.

For anything that Mr. Grunfeld has done well whilst Flip is here will be diminished on the court.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 25, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The McGee apologists need to give it a rest. Please. Are you joking? It's not his fault that he can't handle basic basketball concepts? If he's so athletic why can't he move laterally to show on screens or provide help on defense? The reason is that he is either inept at understanding what's happening on the court or he doesn't try. Why can't he box out consistently on free throws? Why does he have to shoot the ball every time he gets it? Why hasn't he developed a single low post move? He should be criticized because he is underachieving given the level of athleticism he possesses.

What are his talents? And how do you take advantage of them. He can run and he can jump. Ally opps in hafcourt sets? Fast break points would be nice, but you've got to get defensive stops and grab rebounds - two things this this team doesn't do particularly well.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 25, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Until there is a coaching change the culture and mentality of the team will be the same. JW will continue to get even more frustrated as the season goes on. Let's just pray that he doesn't get a freak injury and have to miss some of next season. JM and Flip obviously have a problem with each other. However, the guy does have potential at center if he was coached correctly. I will admit that the Wiz have done a decent job with acquiring draft picks and saving under the cap, but without a coaching change we will be back to square one again. Not enough defense, not enough effort, and a frustrated point guard. Hopefully TL pulls the plug at the end of this season and gets someone in here that can really teach the game and can relate to the younger generation. The game itself has truly changed from when Flip coached in Detroit.

Posted by: TEliasB | February 25, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

mcgee's presence itself makes our team defense better. thats a talent in itself, he deters layups. its not like we have any other better options at center. yi is pathetic. blatche is just lazy. at least mcgee tries, and hustles. and he would alot better with the right coaching. hes only 23.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 25, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

To bozomoeman....Currently, there are NBA teams LOSING money. When you have a small market team with a superstar (NO) losing money, it's not a good sign for the NBA. Once Dwight and Chris Paul leave, it will be made clear to all but 4 or 5 fanbases there is no chance of winning...period. More teams will lose money and it will be ugly for the NBA. Better revenue sharing is good, but having only 4 or 5 teams capable of selling out games won't make up for the rest of the empty venues.

Posted by: VaWizard85 | February 25, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

The McGee apologists need to give it a rest. Please. Are you joking? It's not his fault that he can't handle basic basketball concepts? If he's so athletic why can't he move laterally to show on screens or provide help on defense? The reason is that he is either inept at understanding what's happening on the court or he doesn't try. Why can't he box out consistently on free throws? Why does he have to shoot the ball every time he gets it? Why hasn't he developed a single low post move? He should be criticized because he is underachieving given the level of athleticism he possesses.

What are his talents? And how do you take advantage of them. He can run and he can jump. Ally opps in hafcourt sets? Fast break points would be nice, but you've got to get defensive stops and grab rebounds - two things this this team doesn't do particularly well.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 25, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse
Excellent.

Posted by: gtefferra | February 25, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse


Flop Saunders became obsolete 26 games into his 328-game contract when Arenas jumped the shark by bringing firearms into VC and the Wizards released that idiotic statement about recently learning that Arenas had "stored" guns in his locker.

Moral of the story: Grunfeld will never admit his mistake(s) and seal his fate by even approaching Leonsis about firing Saunders.

Posted by: harrybalz | February 25, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

@ZardsFan

It's not just McGee. NO ONE on the team has shown any progress this season. That's on the coach.

Posted by: VaWizard85 | February 25, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

just wondering how many team captains do you usually see traded mid season?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 25, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"Boston took Rhondo and hit a homerun."

You know they didn't actually select him, right? They were in the lottery that year after a 33 victory season and picked Randy Foye at 7, who they then traded to Minnesota via Portland. The Phoenix Suns actually picked Rondo at 21, using a selection they got from the Lakers via Boston and Atlanta, before trading him to the Celts. Rondo was a backup for a year before the team's big makeover and championship run.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

It's not just McGee. NO ONE on the team has shown any progress this season. That's on the coach.

Posted by: VaWizard85 | February 25, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Nobody? Oh okay.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Exactly who is the big-man coach?

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"mcgee's presence itself makes our team defense better."

I'd question that. The presence of any shotblocker can improve a team's overall defense, that's true. But there are other very good shotblockers out there. And McGee is sometimes not much help on the defensive boards (a center's other big role), and is rarely a factor on offense.

I like the guy, I like his potential, I hope someday to see it realized in a Wiz uniform, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for correcting me Samson. But all that is irrelevent. Rondo at the 20+ pick is a homerun. What is relevant was that Ernie selected Opech and struck out!

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Don't know if this was posted yet, but it's another analysis of the Bibby/Hinrich deal:


http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2011/02/23/analysis-hawks-to-trade-bibby-for-hinrich/

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 25, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

You know what...yes McGee is athletic.

ATHLETES DON'T WIN BASKETBALL GAMES.
Basketball players do. If he wants to run and jump...maybe he should get into track and field.

McGee blocks shots. That's wonderful. Unfortunately...that's not a great indicator of great defense...and neither are steals. It's just what you notice.

You don't notice when JaVale is so clueless that someone gets a wide open layup.

Or when he gets off his feet and ends up fouling and turning two points into 3...or when his famous goaltends turn 0 into 2.

Two goaltends and a 3 pt. play...that's 5 points.

But it doesn't matter right? Just let him figure it out for himself right Larry?

I thought coaching mattered so much though...like it's been said. He's a 7 foot SF.

So y'all can take the 2-3 blocks a game...but how many blocks does he MISS? Resulting in easy putbacks from offensive rebounds? I guess that doesn't matter either.

It's those little things he needs to grasp. That's what substance over style is.

And stop trying to run the damn break.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for correcting me Samson. But all that is irrelevent. Rondo at the 20+ pick is a homerun. What is relevant was that Ernie selected Opech and struck out!

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

You do know that all GM's "strike out" right? ALL OF THEM.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

"agree completly, mcgee is critizied too much, hes not a traditional center.." Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 25, 2011 11:28 AM

Since when are only "traditional centers" required to box out on rebounds? Since when are only "traditional centers" expected to give the ball up to the PG on a defensive rebound instead of dribbling blindly upcourt into an offensive foul? Since when are only "traditional centers" expected to have the common sense to know that if the opponent clearly knocks the ball out of bounds the smart thing to do is to let it go rather than touch it with your foot on the baseline, thus turning it back over under the opponent's basket?

The criticism of McGee has nothing to do with him not performing like a "traditional center" and everything to do with his inability to display a basic understanding of common game fundamentals expected of any "traditional" basketball player regardless of position.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 25, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"But all that is irrelevent. Rondo at the 20+ pick is a homerun. What is relevant was that Ernie selected Opech and struck out!
Posted by: G-Man11"

I don't think it's 'irrelevant' -- it provides context. Rondo at the 21st pick would indeed have turned out to be a home run -- but Phoenix traded him, so I guess they lose the home run, and Boston had already had a chance to pick Rondo at 7 and chose instead to trade the pick -- so does that make them less brilliant?

There's just a lot of luck involved in the process, methinks.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"Don't know if this was posted yet, but it's another analysis of the Bibby/Hinrich deal:
Posted by: kalo_rama"

I hadn't seen it, and I thought it was a pretty fair analysis. A minor deal that could help both clubs, made by one team with a very different agenda than the other. Quickly forgotten amidst the rest of the trade foofoorah, but smacks of good management -- something you don't see that much of nowadays.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

One criticism of Grunfeld's drafting style that I think is legitimate is that he tends to over-value offensive talent. Booker is the first player that he's picked as the Wizards GM in the first round who has at least some semblance of a defensive pedigree and mentality.

e.g. In the year he drafted McGee, he could have taken a flyer on a player like DeAndre Jordan. As a senior in high school Rivals had him ranked as the second best high school center (after Kevin Love). Jordan had a so-so freshman season in college, but still showed some promise. He's developing into a real defensive presence in the paint in his 3rd season. Grunfeld may have felt that Haywood was sufficient and that he needed a change of pace player on offense. Not really clear what the rationale was. He may have simply rated McGee higher as most GM's did in 2008. McGee still might justify the selection, but at this point it's an open question. Hickson, Ibaka, and some others were also part of the same draft class available after the 18th selection. Of course there were also a lot of duds in the 2008 draft that Grunfeld didn't pick. McGee still has a future in the NBA ahead of him (who knows what it will ultimately be).

Posted by: JPRS | February 25, 2011 1:35 PM | Report abuse

You do know that all GM's "strike out" right? ALL OF THEM.

Posted by: SDMDTSU

Of course I know that. Don't insult my intelligence and I won't insult yours. They all miss. But a GM makes his money with his picks that are outside of the lottery.

So, not including Wall, the first pick in last draft, name some doubles or triples, let alone homeruns by Grunfeld. The thing about Ernie is he has nothing but singles and strikeouts. Nick is a single. Blatche, a single. Opech, strikeout, could have hit a homer with Rondo. McGee, a single. Foye/Miller, strikeout. D-McGuire a single, could have had a double or triple with Marc Gasol. On and on and on.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Before you start blaming flip, analyze what McGee's problems are. I have coached kids how to play basketball and its obvious doesn't know basketball fundamentals.

Here is big man 101:

DEFENSE:

- Never leave year feet on defense to block a shot if the offensive player hasn't picked up their dribble.

- Stay in front of the offensive player at all times.

- Box the closest man out when a shot is in the air.

- Never run off your man to block another shooters shot.

OFFENSE:

- Never take more than two dribbles.

- Develop at least two back-to-the-basket post moves. 1.Jump hook in the lane. 2. Drop-step and go to the basket.

- When two people are defending you, someone is open. Pass the effing ball.

McGee has grasped none of the above. That tells me one of three things.

1. Bad coaching.
2. McGee is stubborn.
3. McGee is stupid.

I refuse to believe that Flip doesn't know the fundamentals as a professional basketball coach. That leaves options two and
three which both are unacceptable from a pro player.

Posted by: paulb3rd | February 25, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Grunfeld is doing a very good job acquiring players and draft picks. However, if the Wizards don't get a younger, more progressive coaching staff that will develop the players, its all a waste of time and effort. The players will leave here and go to another team and become All-Stars like they always do.

Mr. Leonsis, Mr. Grunfeld, please get a new coaching staff. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Signed
Ticket Plan Holder

Posted by: carterm1 | February 25, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

@paulb3rd,

As far as boxing out goes, McGee's biggest problem is size. He tends to get pushed around in the paint by larger centers. I don't think this is just a question of technique. He needs to add more muscle and weight. Especially with his high center of gravity.

Posted by: JPRS | February 25, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

JPRS:

Anybody who's watched 15 minutes of a Wizards basketball game with McGee on the floor knows that more often than not McGee makes no effort to box his man out. When the shot goes up, McGee heads straight for the rim, content to outjump everybody for the rebound. When the ball takes an awkward bounce, McGee is completely out of position to grab it. Assuming he's not dense, McGee needs ADHD meds to supplement his asthma inhaler.

Posted by: bobabuie | February 25, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Ernie makes a lot of decisions that buys himself more time! he always has a fall back and it quite masterful at it.

not to beat a dead horse, but i was never one that thought the big 3 were championship material. in an effort to bolster the big 3 last year, Grunfeld essentially gave up the entire draft for 2 offensive guys that were 1 and done in DC. yeah we did not get Blake Griffin, but there were other solid players to build and strengthen the team.

Posted by: oknow1 | February 25, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"The thing about Ernie is he has nothing but singles and strikeouts. Nick is a single. Blatche, a single. Opech, strikeout, could have hit a homer with Rondo. McGee, a single. Foye/Miller, strikeout. D-McGuire a single, could have had a double or triple with Marc Gasol. On and on and on.Posted by: G-Man11"

Why grades like this don't mean much: what do you compare them to? How'd the rest of the GMs do? What was the team's goal at the time of the draft?

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 25, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

So, not including Wall, the first pick in last draft, name some doubles or triples, let alone homeruns by Grunfeld. The thing about Ernie is he has nothing but singles and strikeouts. Nick is a single. Blatche, a single. Opech, strikeout, could have hit a homer with Rondo. McGee, a single. Foye/Miller, strikeout. D-McGuire a single, could have had a double or triple with Marc Gasol. On and on and on.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Okay so then tell me this. Why would we draft Rondo with Arenas on the roster? I might be mistaken but wasn't that during the all-star seasons?

Dray a single? I'm not his biggest fan but a 2nd round pick into someone who is/was considered a conerstone...you can't consider to have the same "single" impact as Dom McGuire.....seriously?

Marc Gasol is better than McGee...but looking at the numbers...they aren't much different..and nobody payed Gasol any attention even when he got traded. He was a "throw-in" remember?

Rondo is great...but look what he came into...surrounded by 3 (now 4) hall of famers. The situations aren't exactly the same.

Since we have the "Ichiro" of GM's...show me who is constantly hitting doubles and triples and not striking out.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Ernie makes a lot of decisions that buys himself more time! he always has a fall back and it quite masterful at it.

not to beat a dead horse, but i was never one that thought the big 3 were championship material. in an effort to bolster the big 3 last year, Grunfeld essentially gave up the entire draft for 2 offensive guys that were 1 and done in DC. yeah we did not get Blake Griffin, but there were other solid players to build and strengthen the team.

Posted by: oknow1 | February 25, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I feel what you're saying 100%...but wouldn't you WANT your GM to have back up plans?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

You don't need to be the strongest player to play with physicality. Dennis Rodman was prime example. McGee nor Blatche avoid contact. Part of the problem McGee and Blatche is stamina. Boxing out and playing in the paint is energy draining. So despite their lack of strength, Blatche(lazy) and McGee (Asthma) lack in endurance to consistently battle stronger men. But, like they say, it is not the size of the dog in the fight, it is the size of the fight in the dog.

Both are style over substance.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

JaVale's athleticism is his worst enemy. He relies on it too much and he takes those shortcuts. Who needs positioning when you can always jump over people? It's always been that way but here it doesn't work that way. You have to get the basics down. Those who relied on just the athleticism? Are those who we all wondered "Whatever happened to him?"

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Okay so then tell me this. Why would we draft Rondo with Arenas on the roster? I might be mistaken but wasn't that during the all-star seasons?

Dray a single? I'm not his biggest fan but a 2nd round pick into someone who is/was considered a conerstone...you can't consider to have the same "single" impact as Dom McGuire.....seriously?

Marc Gasol is better than McGee...but looking at the numbers...they aren't much different..and nobody payed Gasol any attention even when he got traded. He was a "throw-in" remember?

Rondo is great...but look what he came into...surrounded by 3 (now 4) hall of famers. The situations aren't exactly the same.

Since we have the "Ichiro" of GM's...show me who is constantly hitting doubles and triples and not striking out.

Posted by: SDMDTSU

so are you saying you would have drafted Pech over Rondo? Sure we had prime Arenas. But who was his backup? We had Jamison and Blatche and picked Pechorov.

Is not McGuire a throw-in? Is he a starter in the NBA? Will he ever be? Ernie picked him over Marc Gasol! He is a legitimate starting center in the NBA. Something the Wizards has not had since how long? Yes, he is better than Haywood. Marc Gasol was not a throw in. He was a key to the Lakers getting Pau Gasol. The key certainly wasn't Kwame. Ernie picked McGuire over Marc Gasol.

Are you defending his selection of Dray. I said it wasn't a strikeout. You got a 7fter, who is afraid of contact, who loves to shoot mainly jumpers and contorts/shies away from contact when going to the basket. A player who has bad judgement, and is lazy. Who, despite his cap-friendly contract and skill level, is basically untradeable BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS HIM. He is a keeper.

Look, you can defend Ernie all you want, but when he misses, he misses bad. Again, I know all GM's miss, but look at this current team. Look at the roster around the Big 3 when Arenas was AgentZero.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

G-Man,

Kwame WAS the key to the Memphis-LA trade because of his expiring contract and Memphis' fervent desire to dump salary and start over. Nobody at the time the trade was made said anything about Marc Gasol being the key to anything. What are you smoking nowadays? ;-)

Btw, there was a pretty good roster around Arenas in his prime. The roster had multiple all stars in on it, which resulted in multiple playoff appearances. Grunfeld has had his share of hits and misses, as has every other GM in the league.

Posted by: bobabuie | February 25, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

so are you saying you would have drafted Pech over Rondo? Sure we had prime Arenas. But who was his backup? We had Jamison and Blatche and picked Pechorov.

Is not McGuire a throw-in? Is he a starter in the NBA? Will he ever be? Ernie picked him over Marc Gasol! He is a legitimate starting center in the NBA. Something the Wizards has not had since how long? Yes, he is better than Haywood. Marc Gasol was not a throw in. He was a key to the Lakers getting Pau Gasol. The key certainly wasn't Kwame. Ernie picked McGuire over Marc Gasol.

Are you defending his selection of Dray. I said it wasn't a strikeout. You got a 7fter, who is afraid of contact, who loves to shoot mainly jumpers and contorts/shies away from contact when going to the basket. A player who has bad judgement, and is lazy. Who, despite his cap-friendly contract and skill level, is basically untradeable BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS HIM. He is a keeper.

Look, you can defend Ernie all you want, but when he misses, he misses bad. Again, I know all GM's miss, but look at this current team. Look at the roster around the Big 3 when Arenas was AgentZero.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Im not defending EG...I'm just saying playing we should've picked him over him 4-5 years later is pointless.

And comparing Dray's impact on D-Mac's impact as equal...makes no sense whatsoever.

You're delusional. Marc Gasol was not the main factor in the Pau trade. People was like "who is he...it's pau's brother" We had that debate in here already.

Dray as a 2nd round pick...yeah you can defend it. He done more than most of the 1st round picks of that draft. Like I said I'm not his biggest fan but that isn't debatable and pretty much destroys your credibility to do so in this.

Pecherov was picked (just like Veermenkov) to stash overseas because they had a full roster. If he would've sold the pick for cash like people do now with full rosters...it still would've been ripped.

So your issue over 7 years of drafting is we didn't pick Rondo and Marc Gasol. Okay cool.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 25, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

First of all, it ain't about my being credible or not, because to be honest, we both aren't.

Defend Dray all you want. I know he was a second round pick. Is he a winner? Yes or No. He is a decent 2nd round pick. But, in the end, what has he proven he is worth?

Stashing Pechorov overseas because we had a stacked roster? Is that the best you can do? Is that the best Ernie could do? Are you saying that he passed on Rondo because they had Arenas and an old Antonio Daniels at point, plus we need to stash people overseas? Sure they are the facts. But they had other people on that roster that was worthless. Donnell Taylor was on the roster after the year after that draft. Where is he now? Was he a guard? Was he worth keeping instead of drafting Rondo?

You can look at it however you want. I did not compare D-Mac to Dray. I compared D-Mac to Marc Gasol. Can't you read and comprehend? Just like I compared Ernie drafting Pech over Rondo.

Do this, tell me where in Ernie's drafting has he excelled?

And Bobabouie, I said look at the roster around the Big 3. Want me say it again? LOOK AT THE ROSTER AROUND THE BIG 3!

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 25, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse


And Bobabouie, I said look at the roster around the Big 3. Want me say it again? LOOK AT THE ROSTER AROUND THE BIG 3!

Posted by: G-Man11

You also said that Marc Gasol was the key to the trade, so forgive me if I don't hang onto every word. BTW, the roster outside of the big 3 was good enough to help them go to multiple playoffs. Without those "non-big 3" players nothing happens. Nothing. Got it?

Posted by: bobabuie | February 25, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope that Coach Saunders will learn that at the NBA level you have to play more than just 6 or 7 players. He will have the tools to develop a solid 10 man rotation. That's how you win championships.

Posted by: carterm1 | February 25, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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