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Posted at 11:45 AM ET, 02/ 3/2011

Jump ball: What about Ron?

By Washington Post editors

Yesterday Michael Lee blogged about the possibility of the Lakers pursuing Wizards guard Kirk Hinrich, and mentioned Ron Artest as a player Los Angeles might be willing to move.

Although the Lakers are downplaying trade rumors about Artest, blog commenter dannykurland1 still wonders if he could help toughen up the Wizards:

I wonder how much Ron Artest has left in the tank? Do the Lakers covet Hinrich enough to deal Artest? Artest may be nutty, but he has the toughness that is sorely lacking on the Wiz. I'd love to see what Seraphin and Booker could learn from Artest. Are there any tough guys that the Wiz might be in position to draft next year? The team must get tougher.

What do you think? Would Ron Artest be a good fit for the Wizards?

By Washington Post editors  | February 3, 2011; 11:45 AM ET
 
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Comments

"Would Ron Artest be a good fit for the Wizards?"

Call me crazy, but I would guess Ronnie was thinking more along the lines of another contending club... and would not be a happy camper in Washington.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 3, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Have yet to see anything about the Lakers actually being interested in Hinrich, rather than assumptions based on previous interest. Hard to envision they would expect Kirk to be the difference maker for them, it's possible the trade talk from kupchak is just to get guys like Artest and Odom playing harder.

Nothing will light a fire under a player's butt quicker than the thought of being traded to the Wizards.

Posted by: divi3 | February 3, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Hell and No !!!

Posted by: Berndaddy | February 3, 2011 12:31 PM | Report abuse

C'mon this is a riduiculous even hypothetical..

Who would the Wizards have that the Lakers would possibly want in exchange for Artest?

Clearly they could swap guards for Kirk, but Artest leaving the Lakers just ain't gonna happen and certainly the Wiz couldn't be a player in the very very unlikely event that Artest were traded..

Guess we are reduced to talking about scenarios that have about as much of a chance of happening as would trading for LeBron, or Dirk, or Wade, or Garnett, or Amare, or..man please

We simply don't have a player in that position that the Laker's or any other contender would want or would give up one of their starters for..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I love how this post is credited to "Washington Post editors." I guess no one was willing to actually attach his name to this nonsense.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Nothing will light a fire under a player's butt quicker than the thought of being traded to the Wizards'(posted by divi3). Unless it would be the smell of burnt rubber as a Wizard player was informed he was being traded away.

Posted by: dandyhuffman | February 3, 2011 12:42 PM | Report abuse

is ron artest a good fit here? no
but Danny Granger is!

Posted by: mrhney03 | February 3, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

OMG NO! Trading one nutcase for another in the same season?!?! I loved Gil, even though his zaniness made for some lamentable Wizards history. But where Gil was zany, Artest is just plain crazy. Gil is mostly harmless. Artest is a menace. PLEASE, for the love of God, don't bring him here. We have enough problems as it is.

Posted by: Matte | February 3, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

We need young talented players with good contracts. Artest is past his prime and he is way-overpaid for years to come. I'd trade Kirk for an expiring and a 1st round pick, but there's no way we take back a liability in exchange for a good backup PG who may be slightly overpaid but only has 1 year left on his deal.

I agree on Granger. If the Pacers are willing to take Young and Blatche for Granger, we should go ahead with it. It's a good chance to buy low and a good player having a mysteriously bad year.

Posted by: Dellis2010 | February 3, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

No.

Easiest post ever.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 3, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Granger is just the kind of faux-franchise player that I get the impression Leonsis wants to avoid. He puts up big numbers that have a lot less impact on the court than they do on the box score.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Outside the Brawl at the Palace which was what 6-7 years ago, what has Artest done that makes him "crazy"?

I have meet and talked with Ron several times and he is one of the best dudes in the NBA.

Plays hard, is tough, is an NBA Champion and he is a humanitarian..

I would trade Blatche for him any day..With the Quickness..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

NO... think about it... we didn't want 'Quick Draw,' partly due to concerns about his 'influence' on our young guys. So now that he is gone, we would consider bringing in another guy with 'questions' regarding his character????????

Face facts.... Wiz are rebuilding.... Things aren't going to turn around quickly... Settle in and enjoy (as much as possible) the teams growth over the next 2-3 years and then lets see where we stand.

*I am not an Artest 'hater,' I am just a Wizards fan who understands to building a playoff team TAKES TIME, THERE ARE NO QUICK FIXES! We should be thinking more '06-'09 Blazers and less '07/'08 Celtics.

Posted by: fishin41 | February 3, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

He's 30 years old, having the worst year of his career, and has 3 more years left on his contract. He could be Mahatma-f*&king-Gandhi and trading for him would still be a bad idea.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

He would be an excellent fit. Another not very good basketball player. I would call that a perfect match.

Posted by: clocker58 | February 3, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@Kalo_rama,

LOL...that was good..

But he is the type of player we are asking for. Defensive Power Forward..

You saying you wouldn't trade 7 Day Dray for him? (I know that's impossible but just asking)

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

He could be Mahatma-f*&king-Gandhi and trading for him would still be a bad idea.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree...plus once that idiot Timberwolves translator cofused Ghandi by trying to explain "Fast breaking" it was as much as over for him. Poor guy starved himself thereafter, lost all his bulk and never saw another double double performance...but the college era Ghandi!...do that in a heartbeat.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | February 3, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Don't know Kal, Gandhi could probably have backed Blatche down regularly on the block and with that soft touch... Man could never go to his right though and was too skinny to set solid picks.

Posted by: mugsybol | February 3, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

confused....sorry, careless with comedic jab attempt.

Posted by: The_Shadow_Knows | February 3, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"But he is the type of player we are asking for. Defensive Power Forward."

Except he's not a PF, he's a SF. Been a SF his entire career as I recall. And his defense this season has been awful because he's lost a step (at least) to age.

"You saying you wouldn't trade 7 Day Dray for him? (I know that's impossible but just asking)"

No, I wouldn't. Artest has become just as much of a chucker on offense as Blatche is and while his deteriorating defense is still better than Blatche's, it's not good enough to make a real difference on a really bad team. I'd like to see Blatche traded, but for something that improves the team in some measurable way. Artest fails to meet that goal.

Moreover, trading Hinrich's soon to be expiring contract for Artest's multi-year one is just plain stupid from a business standpoint. They can get better in exchange for it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Artest has 3 more years left on his contract, while Hinrich only has one. That is the key stat. Forget about intangibles, defensive prowess. This team is not an Artest away from "the next level." The moves the team has made since Leonsis took over do not support a Hinrich-Artest trade, unless 20 first round picks are involved...

Posted by: -CN- | February 3, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz could definitely use Ron's toughness, but you have to worry about everything else that he bring along with that. One thing's for sure. Rashard Lewis and his power forward impersonation are not cutting it. I say they create a package to move Andray Blatche and Hinrich (although I'd love for him to stay) and bring in a real power forward and a shooter if there's one available.

Posted by: wade_carver | February 3, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Ron Artest said he doesn't think Javale McGee studies film he plays video games and he has an atari and needs to get a playstation. If Artest was here would he teach McGee how to study film or play Call of Duty with McGee.

Also "Outside the Brawl at the Palace which was what 6-7 years ago, what has Artest done that makes him "crazy"?"

Chicago got drunk during halftime as a bulls, Applied to a job at circuit city and put NBA player as his last job with Bulls Pres Jerry Krause as a reference, Came to the Rockets team bus in nothing but his boxers. We frequently talk about leadership and role models in the locker room. If Gil was poisonous to rookies then I don't see how ron is any better. Lakers and Rockets had seasoned vets in the locker room to keep him in check. Can anyone in the wiz locker room stand up to artest?

Posted by: jefferu | February 3, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Noooooo, nooooo, no-no, and no!

He's a nut job.

- Ray

FREE MIKE LEE!!!

Posted by: rmcazz | February 3, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

this "jump ball" feature is getting dumber by the day.

this topic has already been thoroughly covered in three threads.

enough.

Posted by: MinuMang | February 3, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with John Thompson that Ronnie's best season was the one in Houston. Thompson described it as 'magnificent'. But he's 31 now and in his 14th season. I've always admired Artest -- from a distance. And would like to keep that way.

I think maybe we should see if we can pick up a draft choice or two, and that's about it.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 3, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Except he's not a PF, he's a SF. Been a SF his entire career as I recall. And his defense this season has been awful because he's lost a step (at least) to age.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Damn, you too are clueless huh..He's was a power forward in Houston..

He plays the 3 & the 4 in LA..

That's what happens when you run look at a roster on paper and try to act like you know what you are talking about..

Furthermore, and for that matter Gasol play's the 4 & 5..

Go Small? Play Big? No Problem

Artest, who grew up playing hoops with Lamar Odom and others on the NYC hardcourts, has a game that’s keyed by an attacking style at both ends. But what might delight Phil Jackson most about the newest Laker is his ability to play multiple positions successfully, which allows Jackson (who’s confirmed for the 2009-10 season in case you missed it) to throw several different looks at opponents. Phil can put his newes­t weapon on either wing opposite Kobe Bryant, or place Artest on the high post to work with Andrew Bynum or Pau Gasol. L.A. can stick Artest on the low post to take advantage of some of the league’s smaller wing players, or use him to defend the best perimeter option of L.A.’s opponents (valuable for any team but particularly for one that also possesses a now-able-to-rest-more-on-defense Bryant) such as LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce, Manu Ginobili or Brandon Roy.

Jackson can put Artest at power forward and let him bang with, say, Kevin Garnett, or sick him on bigger point guards like Deron Williams or Chauncey Billups, all without losing anything at the offensive end from a guy who can dribble, pass and shoot. Clearly, there were more than a few reasons that the NBA’s winningest coach has been intrigued with the prospect of coaching, rather than facing, Artest.

Kalo I thought you 1/2 way new what you were talking about..Oh well..LOL

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

"Also "Outside the Brawl at the Palace which was what 6-7 years ago, what has Artest done that makes him "crazy"?"

LOL I'm an admirer of Ron's, but that's a bit like saying: "By the way, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Posted by: Samson151 | February 3, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

How about Hinrich, AB (and Thornton or Howard) for Bynum? Would you do that? Would the Lakers? Artest's contract (expires in 2014) is awful and he has no business on a team focusing on character.

Posted by: audacitea | February 3, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

How about Hinrich, AB (and Thornton or Howard) for Bynum? Would you do that? Would the Lakers? Artest's contract (expires in 2014) is awful and he has no business on a team focusing on character.

Posted by: audacitea | February 3, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

If I were the Wizards hell yes..

If I were the Lakers hell no..Only player oustide John Wall, I would take is Hinrich, Thornton, NY(maybe) and that's it..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Damn, you too are clueless huh..He's was a power forward in Houston.."

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:01 PM

Really? So I guess Luis Scola was, what . . the SG? Because he started all 82 games at PF the one season Artest was in Houston.

(And before you attempt the "Yao was hurt so Scola played C" tap dance . . . Yao played and started 77 games that season. The FACT is that Artest is and always has been a natural SF in the NBA. He's never played more than token, spot minutes at PF. He's certainly never been a primary starter at that position, which is what you're suggesting he could be on the Wizards. Bottom line . . . you're wrong.

I'm sorry . . . you were saying something about clueless?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"Jackson can put Artest at power forward and let him bang with, say, Kevin Garnett, or sick him on bigger point guards like Deron Williams or Chauncey Billups, all without losing anything at the offensive end from a guy who can dribble, pass and shoot. "

You do realize it's not 2002 anymore, right? Artest hasn't been that guy for a few years now. Offensively he's a spot up shooter. Defensively he doesn't have the quickness to keep up with most SFs, let alone SGs and PGs. And go back and watch the tape of the last Celtics/Lakers game and tell me (A) how much time Artest spent guarding Garnett and (B) how successful he was at it?

"Kalo I thought you 1/2 way new what you were talking about." Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:01 PM

I wish I could return the "compliment." But, alas . . .

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Ron Artest play's both spot's..3 & 4..Yes he is listed as a small forward, but he spends much more than token minutes at the 4 spot..

Same held true when he was in Houston..Doesn't matter if he start's there or not..

He more often than not is guarding the other teams 4..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Kalo, Yeah again you are clueless..

Artest gives Rockets new look at power forward (POWER FORWARD)
Healthy roster allows Adelman more flexibility
By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

Here is the link:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6181946.html

Since Ron Artest returned from two games off to rest his sprained right ankle, he has finished games at power forward, offering the shooting range and offensive spacing the Rockets coveted at the position since they began featuring Yao Ming inside.

With Shane Battier and Tracy McGrady also healthy at the same time for the first time this season, moving Artest to power forward was a way to have all three on the court simultaneously to close out games.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Again, you say one thing then act like you are talking about a different time period..

In Houston..Read the article above..

And in LA he plays quite a bit at the 4 spot.Whether he starts there our not he see's alot of minutes at PF..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Jackson can put Artest at power forward and let him bang with, say, Kevin Garnett, or sick him on bigger point guards like Deron Williams or Chauncey Billups, all without losing anything at the offensive end from a guy who can dribble, pass and shoot. "

You do realize it's not 2002 anymore, right?
Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

2002? This was just last year..the heck does 2002 have to do with anything??

WOW

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

kalo_rama,

Look just send me ur im or cell, and when the Laker's are on, I can show you and attempt to explain to you when he is playing PF and when he is not..

You can't look at the roster or box score to tell when this is happening.

Seriously, I would be more than happy to do this for you..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Pssh. I would be alright with trading Hinrich, but preferable for picks and/or money. The Wizards are so talent full right now that grunsfeld should let the players build up their stats and show what they can do so he can ship em off before the draft. With the way the season is going we'll have a high pick, and we have very excellent trade pieces. Not superstars, but this tea most definitely needs rid of young and blatche. We could either acquire more picks or make a big free agent splash. Wasting it on Artest doesn't seem like grunsfeld style. Grunsfeld wants lean talented athletic guys who he can move again. Artest would sit on the Wizards bench for the next 3 years.

Posted by: sanjuan1227 | February 3, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

@sanjuan1227,

I don't know about moving NY just yet..

But your saying Artest starts for the Defending World Champions, but would sit on the bench for a lottery team 3rd worse team in the league..

O Ok.. I see what you mean...

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

What, did you google "Ron Artest" and "Power Forward" and copy the first article that used both in the same paragraph?

However you did it, thanks, because it only underscores my point.

There's a reason why it emphasizes Artest "finishing" games at PF. He played spot minutes at PF at the end of (some) games, but he played the majority of minutes (both for the Rockets and every other team) at SF. Period. That's his position. He's NEVER been a primary PF option on any team he's played for. None.

And of course it matters what position a player starts at, because most coaches with any sense start players at their best/natural positions. Throughout a given game Kobe will play minutes at SF, PG, even PF in small ball lineups. But he starts and plays most of his minutes at SG because that's his position.

Artest is not a primary PF and never has been. So trading for him to perform that role on the Wizards would be foolish. Even more foolish given his contract and his obviously declining game.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Kalo,

Here you go:

Gasol said Artest will be out there in a power position “quite a bit. I’m sure we’ll see Ron play the ‘four.’ ” Against smaller, quicker opponents such as Phoenix, Artest especially makes sense over inexperienced power forward Derrick Caracter or sore-kneed veteran center Theo Ratliff.

Artest has the strength to play most power forwards, and given the glut of talent the Lakers have if Shannon Brown needs more and more minutes this season, it makes sense for Artest to bump up there for stretches even after Bynum returns.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Gasol said? He was clearly speculating about what might happen. What actually did happen is that Odom took up the vast majority of PF minutes (including starting) when Bynum went out.

Try watching some actual games.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

@kalo_rama,

Your wrong..He has played the 4 spot more than just in spot minutes (as you call them) at the end of the game..

Because of his defense he can guard just about any PF in the game, and then he gives them problems on the other end because he can shoot the ball (though not that well as or right now).

But you implied that he doesn't play significant numbers at PF..That simply is not true..

Play all the little cute word games you want. Ron is 6-7 listed as a SF but logs many minutes at the 4 spot. This is why he is so versatile and WHY the Lakers wanted him in the first place..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

ARTEST? Just say no. And stay away from 'MELO too.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

It's not who cares what Gasol says, it's who cares what Kalo_rama says..

I trust more about what Gasol speculates about this than what you actually claim you think you know..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"Your wrong..He has played the 4 spot more than just in spot minutes (as you call them) at the end of the game.."

Yeah, he's played PF in spot minutes in the middle of games, too. BFD. He's still never started at the PF position or been a primary/preferred option at the PF position at any point in his 13 (or however) year long career. Never. Not on any team. Ever. Which is what you're suggesting he could be for Washington. Which is why you're dead wrong.

"But you implied that he doesn't play significant numbers at PF..That simply is not true.."

I didn't "imply" anything. I flat out said it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

FREE MIKE LEE!!!

Posted by: rmcazz | February 3, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Agree, free Mike Lee. His brain has obviously been captured by body snatchers.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Artest is garbage and his defense is overrated. He even said it himself that the year(the ONLY year) he won defensive player of the year can be greatly attributed to Jermaine Oneals great year.

Artest would be a cancer, we wouldn't improve at all. I'd take pretty much all the player on the Wiz over Ron Artest. Now Bynum...he's a different story.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | February 3, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

WOW

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

J-WOW, is that you buddy?

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 3, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Do they not have cable where you live? How about Internet? You know, if you wrote a very nice letter to Phil Jackson, maybe he'd burn some Lakers games to DVD for you so you could actually see why it is you're talking out your ass.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Which is what you're suggesting he could be for Washington. Which is why you're dead wrong.
Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

What I'm saying is he would bring a much needed defensive presence and toughness to Washington.

What difference does it make that he starts at the 3. He plays quite a bit of 4. And in more than just spot minutes.

And on EVERY team he has ever played this has been the case..

This is what you said:
Except he's not a PF, he's a SF. Been a SF his entire career as I recall. And his defense this season has been awful because he's lost a step (at least) to age.

And I'm saying is is both a SF & a PF, and plays significant minutes at the 4..

Do you not think it is possible to play 2 or even 3 positions in Basketball?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"What I'm saying is he would bring a much needed defensive presence and toughness to Washington.

What difference does it make that he starts at the 3.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 3:14 PM

And now the tap dancing begins.

Here, let me refresh your memory:

"But he is the type of player we are asking for. Defensive Power Forward.

You saying you wouldn't trade 7 Day Dray for him? (I know that's impossible but just asking)"

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 1:17 PM

Don't need a Russian cryptographer and an enigma device to decode that. You suggested trading the Wizards' starting PF for Ron Artest then spent the better part of the last 2 hours furiously typing paper thin defenses of Artests ability to play major minutes at the 4 spot. You didn't start in with the "multiple position" BS until your legs got cut out from under you. Whatever. Try not to pull a muscle moving that goalpost around.

"He plays quite a bit of 4. And in more than just spot minutes."

Wait, let me check . . . Yep. That's still not true. But hey, maybe if you say it 100 more times it will be. Can't hurt, right?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Seriously though, check with Phil about those DVDs.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This solves it.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10LAL9.HTM

Artest has played 7% of the total team minutes at PF.

49 games x 4 8minutes = 2,532 minutes x .07 = 164.64 minutes at PF all season.

That's like 2 1/2 games worth of time in 49 games. I wouldn't exactly call it significant...but the bigger issue is that he can play PF with Gasol/Bynum watching his back...but with JaVale? Not so much.

And let's not even talk about rebounding.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 3, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"This solves it."

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 3, 2011 3:32 PM

Killjoy!

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

@SDMDTSU

You can't think that stat is correct nor complete..

It clearly say's he plays 50% of his time at SF, and 7% at PF..Where than is the other 43%..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"It clearly say's he plays 50% of his time at SF, and 7% at PF..Where than is the other 43%.."

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 3:48 PM

Hahahahaha!!!

Just when I thought it couldn't get any better.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Artest is clearly a SF. Played it his whole career. Moving positions for particular match ups is common. Especially with a guy that is suppose to be your lock down defender. He'll guard Carmelo or Lebron but if needed he'll cover a guy like Lamarus Aldridge or Andray Blatche. Bottom line is he's mostly(at least 50% of time) a SF.
AND he wouldn't/couldn't play power forward for the Washington Wizards. Lets all thank our personal diety that kevenjones is not in the same chair Ernie/Ted is in.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | February 3, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Artest said last season that he thought the Lakers acquired him primarily to play defense against LeBron, who plays the 3. He gained a bunch of weight to do it, then had to drop the pounds to guard smaller guys.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 3, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

@Samson151,
LeBron is a SF, but like Artest plays some PF..

Again, Ron plays quite a bit at the 4. That's all I was saying..

Kalo acted as if he never plays at the 4 with his initial comment..

That's not the case.

And the stat that was posted was total team minutes and not total minutes Artest Plays..

But whatever..

Yes he plays more at the 3 but he also plays the 4..He starts at the 3 and often finishes at the 4..

For the Wiz, I think he def. could play the 4.. Why would he not be able to ?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Why would he not be able to ?

Because he's a rapidly diminishing, overpaid, knucklehead who would do nothing but keep Booker from getting minutes....yeah, just what the Wizards need.

Posted by: divi3 | February 3, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

@divi3,

Yup and I would swap him for Dray any day..Not that is what will happen but just saying even with him rapidly diminishing I would take him right know over Blatche...

Just as I would've traded Arenas for Rashard, without any thought..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Calm down. Grunfeld engineered a trade for Caron with Kwame. Where is Caron now? Grunfeld is the master of moving people around where the trades amount to nothing but moving people around. Teddy needs to take the keys away from this dude.

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 3, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"Kalo acted as if he never plays at the 4 with his initial comment.."

Tap, tap, tap.

Can we just call you Mr. Bojangles from now on.

Tap, tap, tap.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 3, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

@SDMDTSU

You can't think that stat is correct nor complete..

It clearly say's he plays 50% of his time at SF, and 7% at PF..Where than is the other 43%..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I even did the math for you. It's 7% of the total TEAM minutes at PF.
LeBron played 3% at PF this season and 9% last season.

Put it like this. I'm not a big fan of Blatche...but even if Artest was playing 100% of his time at PF. He wouldn't be a good fit. I mean that financially or personnel wise.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 3, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

THE WIZARDS DO NOT NEED RON ARTEST!!! We do not need another "issue" to deal with. Continue with the rebuild and deal Blatche. That would eliminate one problem. John Wall is watching this organization and learning how the NBA works. Let's not make moves that the Washington Redskins are known for making. Be patient and rebuild!

Posted by: alr47 | February 4, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I wasn't saying the Wiz need Artest.

But if I could swap Artest for Blatche, what's even to consider..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 4, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I wasn't saying the Wiz need Artest.

But if I could swap Artest for Blatche, what's even to consider..


Posted by: kevenjones | February 4, 2011 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The fact that a World Championship team is willing to dump him after picking him up last season to so much fanfare...(that you yourself posted) FURTHER let's you know what the deal is with him.

1. The impact of Ron Artest in the locker room.

2. The impact on the financial flexibility of the team.

3. The point of adding ANOTHER SF that we don't need.

Shall I continue?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 4, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

"I wasn't saying the Wiz need Artest."

Posted by: kevenjones | February 4, 2011 10:25 AM

Oh please.

"But he is the type of player we are asking for. Defensive Power Forward.."

Posted by: kevenjones | February 3, 2011 1:17 PM

Tap, tap, tap.

Shuffle. Slide.

Tap, tap, tap.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 4, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Who would control Artest??? Flip can't....Cassell??? The coach sets the tone for players...Artest is no problem for Phil Jackson...and Flip is no Jackson...

Posted by: pentagon40 | February 5, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

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