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Posted at 8:35 AM ET, 02/ 1/2011

Mavericks keep Wizards winless on the road

By Washington Post editors
Morning brew

The Wizards dropped their 24th straight road game of the season last night, 102-92, to the Dallas Mavericks. Despite some positive performances, it almost seemed inevitable that Washington would not pull off the upset.

Earlier in the day, former Wizard and current Maverick DeShawn Stevenson said no team wants to be first to lose at home to the Wizards. "We got to keep that streak going," he said. "We don't want to talk it up and they get a win."

Nick Young tried to clarify the statements he made on Saturday after the Wizards lost in Memphis, and called Coach Flip Saunders to explain.

The Wizards go go-karting (DC Sports Bog).

AROUND THE WEB
Kyle Weidie looks at Wizards "synergy" (Truth About It).

Bethlehem Shoals and Eric Freeman offer some suggestions for how to fix the NBA All-Star Game (FanHouse).

David Aldridge sums up what can be taken from the latest installment of the NBA's greatest rivalry -- Sunday's Celtics-Lakers game (NBA.com).

Lakers GM Mitch Kupchack says he'd consider making a trade (Los Angeles Times).

Carmelo Anthony played in New Jersey last night for the first time since Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov put a very public end to the Nets' pursuit of Anthony (CBSSports.com).

By Washington Post editors  | February 1, 2011; 8:35 AM ET
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Comments

I don't think it is stupid to say that John Wall's game could have been better served with more time in college. I don't it is stupid to point out that his jump shot is terrible right now and that on most nights he's been out played. Should he have been the one pick? No doubt. But he was advertised with a lot of hype and so far it has not yet materialized. Anyway, he is having a decent year but it is going to take a couple of years before he becomes a game changer.

Posted by: spades72 | February 1, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

You see folks this offense that Flip runs is the same for a veteran Team and this young inexperienced Team. What is it so special about Flips offense that apparently he is so sure that if the Team sticks with it and gets better at it, it really is going to win anything for them.

This offense that Flips runs and controls the teams play with ought to be the subject of discussion at this point.

How much of this presumed ineptitude of the players is a direct result of Flips offense?

Thats the question.

In his answer back to Nick Young, Flip indicated that it was the defense of the players. Well, why could it not be offensive system that dominates the Teams play that he makes sure they run religiously.

What about that???

LarryInClintonMD.


Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 1, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse

"But [Wall] was advertised with a lot of hype and so far it has not yet materialized. Anyway, he is having a decent year but it is going to take a couple of years before he becomes a game changer.Posted by: spades72"

Two observations:

1. The hype wasn't Wall's doing. It was a team and a league looking to spark ratings. If it wasn't his doing, he can't take the blame for it.

2. So far, the year the kid is having isn't just 'decent'. It's comparable to first year performances by people like Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams. That's the company we want him to be in.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"What is it so special about Flips offense that apparently he is so sure that if the Team sticks with it and gets better at it, it really is going to win anything for them."

Nobody claimed Flip's offense was 'special'. Just that it works. It's basically the same scheme he used for years and that helped win a whole bunch of NBA games. That's with both young and veteran players.

All coaches have a scheme they prefer. True for Sloan, Riley, Phil J., D'Antoni, Doc Rivers, Van Gundy, any of them. They're hired with the expectation that they will do what made them successful elsewhere. Sometimes they need extra pieces to make it work -- like the difference between the Knicks this year vs. last. I'm guessing the Wiz are still missing a couple important pieces.

But you're entitled to grouse, so carry on.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 10:00 AM | Report abuse

"Well, why could it not be offensive system that dominates the Teams play that he makes sure they run religiously.What about that???
LarryInClintonMD.Posted by: LarryInClintonMD"

I think Nick has benefited quite a bit from the current system. He's not a perfect fit but he's closer than some other Wiz.

Flip says it's the defense that's the problem -- as in the team only intermittently playing it.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 10:03 AM | Report abuse

In his answer back to Nick Young, Flip indicated that it was the defense of the players. Well, why could it not be offensive system that dominates the Teams play that he makes sure they run religiously.

What about that???

LarryInClintonMD.

Uh, well, what about what Flip said, too? You lose 24 straight on the road, it's about more than one thing. Certainly Flip's play calling and his substitution patterns can be questioned. As can the effort and decision-making of the players on both ends of the floor.

I might be willing to debate Flip's offense in this way if anyone could provide an analysis of what was called and what options were available versus what was run. Since I don't think anyone here can, it just sounds like another amorphous discussion.

Posted by: ts35 | February 1, 2011 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Until the wizards develop a player that will go to the basket more than settling for a jumpshot as their primary way for scoring, they will lose. Nick, Blatche, and Yi fit here.

The people who play on the block are either weak, too small, green, or combination of those 3. Booker, Seraphin, and JaVale fit their.

Wall can become that player, but he is not ready to carry a team yet. He is not at the level of Derek Rose at the same stage.

This is a team that passes the ball to setup the run, instead of running the ball to setup the pass. And they don't pass that good, like say Montana or Manning.

So when the game is on the line, they don't run the ball.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 1, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I wouldnt say Wall is playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie years.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I wouldnt say Wall is playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie years.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Debatable, but some of Wall's performances this season haven't been seen in the history of the game, definitely not during CP or Rose's draft years. He's had a tough year considering all the losing and some uneven performances, but I think if Wall woulda landed on the Chicago team that Rose was drafted to your overall opinion would change. I don't have Rose and CP3s stats from their rookie years handy, but i doubt either one of them was avg'ing 9 dimes a game.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I wouldnt say Wall is playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie years.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Debatable, but some of Wall's performances this season haven't been seen in the history of the game, definitely not during CP or Rose's draft years. He's had a tough year considering all the losing and some uneven performances, but I think if Wall woulda landed on the Chicago team that Rose was drafted to your overall opinion would change. I don't have Rose and CP3s stats from their rookie years handy, but i doubt either one of them was avg'ing 9 dimes a game. He doesn't look as fluid as Rose or Paul, but i dunno if the Chi or Hornets offense was based on the pg as much as Flip's system is.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Note to divi3; No! Wall isn't playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie seasons and i for one didn't expect him to, i posted last night that he choked again on critical free throws down the stretch not being harsh just stating the obvious. The kid has a bright future like i said but he needs help on the court and from the bench and right now he's getting neither.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 1, 2011 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Flip's system is "known" for padding assist stats to an extent, or so they say. But 9/night is sweet no matter how you slice it of course.

However he's shooting 40% with a mess of turnovers, not that that can't change, I just feel Paul especially exhibited "pure" PG from the get-go.

Anyways, i'm guessing most would agree Wall is playing well but needs to become much better. Lots of work to do this summer.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

This offense that Flips runs and controls the teams play with ought to be the subject of discussion at this point.

How much of this presumed ineptitude of the players is a direct result of Flips offense?\

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 1, 2011 9:04

See he is totally clueless. The Wizards lose because they don't execute on DEFENSE. Has NOTHING to do with offense. NOTHING.

The Wizards Avg 97ppg. but they give up 103ppg. That's a difference of -6. That is good for 2nd worse in the NBA. The only team with a higher differential is Cleveland at -11.

No 97ppg is not great, but the difference between them and Miami at #10 is 4ppg. Still not adding up to the -6 they give up. So even if they scored 4ppg they would still lose by 2ppg.

Because they still are not a defense first team.

They are not losing these games on the offensive end. They are losing these games on the DEFENSIVE end...

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

9 assists a night is absurd for a 20 year old kid playing against the best in the world...i think its safe to say hes going to be good, very good...

Posted by: rc2223 | February 1, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Grant Hill commented how the wizards ran the same play the entire game. Apparently teams are now calling the play before the wizards go into the set so "Is it Flip's play call?"

by the way seraphin got 8 seconds last night after a +6 effort the game before.

just watch the "coach" during the game and you will see everything you need to see and know about the current state of the washington wizards.

Posted by: spoooooooon | February 1, 2011 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I think the numbers suggest that Wall is having a comparable season to Rose and Paul. It's the team that isn't doing as well.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"Note to divi3; No! Wall isn't playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie seasons and i for one didn't expect him to, i posted last night that he choked again on critical free throws down the stretch not being harsh just stating the obvious."posted by: dargregmag

I thought you were way over the top. Wouldn't hurt to dial the rancor down a bit.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Is Jeff Van Gundy the answer ?? or who you guys think who is suitable for the job

Posted by: suliman215 | February 1, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Is Jeff Van Gundy the answer ?? or who you guys think is suitable for the job?

Posted by: suliman215 | February 1, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

dargregmag, "choked again." C'mon, you're going to lable him a choker already? That's ridiculous and reactionary assertion. I recall him hitting 3 consecutive free throws against Philly to tie the game. He's made numerous big plays down the stretch in a lot of games, so don't start labeling him a choker when he misses a couple of free throws. He's averaging close to 10 assists despite the fact that he plays with a bunch of losers and possesses no jump shot.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 1, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 11:02 AM | Report abuse

what if they cut down on 4 or 5 turnovers per game and were able to convert those possesions into points? What if the offense was like Phoenix or NY and we just scored more points. Look at the top 5 offenses in the L 4 of them allow more points per game than the Wiz allow, the difference is they score 105 ppg or better every night. The one team left out is the Spurs, 5th in the L in scoring at 104.36 but only giving up 96.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Is Jeff Van Gundy the answer ?? or who you guys think is suitable for the job?

Posted by: suliman215 | February 1, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I liked Jeff 2 yrs ago for the job. I think he knows Flip's on the hot seat, that's why he wore those stylish glasses on sundays broadcast. I guess he was trying to show he's hip and down with the kids lls.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I've never seen an NBA game where it wasn't possible to criticize the substitutions or play-calling by the losing team. Heck, you can usually criticize something about the winning team's play, too. The real problem is often execution. What looks like a bad play-call is often just a badly executed play.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

how can u guys say anything about wall he plays good every night take a look at ur sorry ass golden child nick young another terrable night 6 for 20 he is the reason we are losing he cant shot he cant pass and deff cant play no D

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 11:13 AM | Report abuse

"Is Jeff Van Gundy the answer ?? or who you guys think who is suitable for the job. Posted by: suliman215"

Probably half a dozen candidates for the job -- next season.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"What if the offense was like Phoenix or NY and we just scored more points."

Do we get Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire? That might work.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"I don't have Rose and CP3s stats from their rookie years handy, but i doubt either one of them was avg'ing 9 dimes a game.
Posted by: lilhollywood10"

Rose averaged 6.3, Paul 7.8. The numbers are comparable.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:18 AM | Report abuse

everybody down on wall he would be ROY if it wasnt for 2year griffin the only problem with wall is he dont shot enoughbut he is smart if his shot aint droppin he stop shootin

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I don't like to see us accusing individual players of choking. It's OK to blame the whole team, but singling one of our own guys out for missing an important free throw or blowing an open shot is, to me, basketball hate speech. Reality is that games are won or lost because of multiple plays along the way, not just one at the end. There's a reason players get fined and benched for using the choke sign on the court. We fans can't even claim the hot blood of the moment. If our BP is up that much, we should seriously consider learning to meditate.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

On a brighter note, how about that spectacular block and save by Nick Young last night! For those of you who aren't still biased by his style of play two years ago, he really has become a decent defender, better passer and increased his scoring repertoire (loved his lean in jumper and post up on Terry last night).

Posted by: audacitea | February 1, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

From Truth About It

Andray Blatche – 0.93 PPP over 72 post-up defensive possessions.
JaVale McGee – 0.96 PPP over 100 post-up defensive possessions.
Kevin Seraphin – 0.85 PPP over 27 post-up defensive possessions.
Hilton Armstrong- 0.93 PPP over 43 post-up defensive possessions.
Yi Jianlian- 0.96 PPP over 28 post-up defensive possessions.
Trevor Booker- 1.00 PPP over 30 post-up defensive possessions.

Yah Kevin, I guess. For the rest, I expected bad numbers, but not so uniformly bad. This is Yi's first year playing center, so I see some hope there.

Posted by: djnnnou | February 1, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

at audacitea ok he had a good play but dude sucks 3/4 of his shots are fadeaways he shot 6 for 20 only reason his stats are up is because he is gettin playin time

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"What if the offense was like Phoenix or NY and we just scored more points."

Do we get Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire? That might work.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Funny, i remember when a trade was on the table for STAT, i think all we had to give up was Caron lls.

Another erroneous comment by you. it doesn't come close to addressing the issue being discussed by me and KevenJones.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Just for the record...who is "they" that say Flip's offense pads assist stats? How do you pad assist stats? I thought the only way you can get one is if someone scores the basketball from a pass. Unless someone is cherry picking on the other side of the court...I don't get that.

We're comparing a 20-year old rookie PG to the top PGs in the game. He's played 35 games. He's gonna take some lumps. The TEAM is.

We're quick to pull numbers in defense of players...but for some reason...when the numbers don't tell the story you want...you gotta discredit them. Wall is getting outplayed some nights...but still getting 15/9/4. He's still learning. Turnovers are an issue...but not in volume to me...just in consistency. He'll have a game with 7 or 5...then 2 or a 0 game. He seems to turn the ball over in bunches when he does it. Right now he's tied for 2nd with Russell Westbrook behind Rondo and right above LeBron and Steve Nash.

We know the jumper is busted...but it is what it is. I just think we're judging him too harshly too soon.

Like hollywood said...he's putting up numbers that haven't been seen very often...and even if it is the magical assists from Flip's offense...he's getting them.

He's only going to get better.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 1, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10,

You don't get it either. Let's just take last nights game and look at it:

1. Wizards took 15 more shots than the Mavs
2. Dallas had 7 more TO's than the Wiz
3. We out rebounded them by 6

But look at the +/-. NOBODY on the entire team has a + .

In comparison only 1 player on the Mavs has a - .

Their problem is on the DEFENSIVE END...

Here is what the +/- means:
Difference between the number of points a team scores while a player is on the court minus the number of points the team's opponent scores while a player is on the court.

So the answer is not score my points. The answer is stop allowing the other team to score so many points.

Look at the last 5 games:
They scored 106 vs the Knicks
They scored 109 vs the Nuggets
They scored 117 vs the Thunder
And 93 Griz & 92 Mavs

They lost all these games despite putting up 13+ over their average and simply just lost by a bigger difference when they are at their average.. Get a clue

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

at audacitea ok he had a good play but dude sucks 3/4 of his shots are fadeaways he shot 6 for 20 only reason his stats are up is because he is gettin playin time

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The wild thing is the last 3 games have been 3 of his worst shooting games this year. He has been head and shoulders our best offensive player this year. But you are right, his stats' have gone up because he's allowed more time on the court to perform (revolutionary thought, i know). But he's also staying on the court, which would incline me to think that the coaching staff is pleased with his performance; or at least pleased enough to hold off fan favorites Kirk Hinrich and Catrier Martin.

Comparatively i think the Mavs SGs were 8-19 w/ 2 FTS compared to his 6-20 w/9. Nick also forced Terry into 3 Tos and had that great block save. he's finding ways to impact the game without just scoring, but i am starting to become concerned about his shooting touch. His shots didn't used to graze the rim, last nite he chucked up some megabricks

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah JW needs to cut down on his turnovers, and work on his jumper, but he is having a hell of a season. If it were not for Griffin he would easily be ROY.

And just keep in mind he is on probably the 3rd worse team in the entire league.

So I love what I'm seeing from JW. He will be just fine. Get him some real help and then let's judge him.

Get Blatche out of here to start..

And yes of course Flip deserves some of the blame for the road loses, but this is on the players more than it is on the coach. Flip does not deserve to be fired. T

This team is still competing and fighting and for me that is good enough. With the exception of a few games they have fought to the end. So I'm very happy with the direction we are headed.

Just want to see 7 Day Dray out of here and get a serious Vet to show these guys how to prepare.

Hey maybe they can get Grant Hill to come since his contract is up.. That would be great.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"Another erroneous comment by you. it doesn't come close to addressing the issue being discussed by me and KevenJones.Posted by: lilhollywood10"

What's erroneous about it?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

What more can you ask of JW the Captain of the team?

John Wall led all Eastern Conference rookies in the month of January in scoring (13.9 ppg), assists (10.5
apg) and in double-doubles with 10.

Wall had at least nine or more assists in 14 of 16 games during the
month.

Wall was also the only Eastern Conference rookie who averaged a double-double during the month of January.

-Wall joins New Orleans’ Chris Paul as the only players in the NBA who are currently averaging at least 15 points, nine assists and four rebounds this season.

-Wall is the first rookie guard to have 17 double-doubles in a season since Chris Paul had 21 double-doubles for the Hornets in 2005. (And he still has 2 months to go)

-With 10 double-doubles in January, Wall became the first rookie guard since Mark Jackson (12-March 1988)to have at least 10 double-doubles in a month.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Nick can be a piece to the puzzle, but not on a team where nobody goes to the basket. Everybody (except Wall, Seraphin, Booker, and Thornton) seem to play with skirts on. Blatche contorts to oppose body contact whenever he is near the rim or shoots jumpers. McGee is still weak. Yi is soft. The Wizards are a soft team. Basketball is NOT a non-contact sport.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 1, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

And 93 Griz & 92 Mavs

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I think these were the games where the offense was questioned, not sure, but i think NY made his comments following the Memphis game. He actually said that what they did the game before was solid and that they shoulda carried some of that over to the Memphis game. So while i appreciate the stats for the past week and a half, NY's comments were made after 1 game commenting on the game planning and offensive scheming for that particular game.

The Wiz being a good defensive team will not happen over night. They can work on all the things they need to work on, but they will not become second nature this year, not with defense being neglected for so long.

Mildly telling that they lost 3 straight games while hitting 100 pts and no one questions the offense, but folks chime in wen they dip down to 93 pts.

If it makes you feel like a man to be "right" that the Wizards aren't a good defensive team then have at it, but i don't think you get to plant your flag on that land, we've been here already. Meanwhile the players (NY in particular) had a feeling about the gameplan that resulted in THEM scoring 24 pts less than the night before. he spoke on it it's over with.

The defense still needs to get better. The offense needs to maintain consistency.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt say Wall is playing as well as Rose or Paul did in their rookie years.

Posted by: divi3

I think the big difference (though statistically there actually isn't much difference) is that Rose and Paul were better scorers coming in. If Wall were more comfortable and confident in his own offense, I think he would at least be posting better numbers than Rose or Paul did (whether that equates to 'better' play is a different story).

But for reference, here at least are the stats:

Wall - 37mpg 15pts 9.3asts 4rebs 1.7stls 3.8tos .400 fg%, .308 from 3pt, .772 ft%

Rose - 37mpg 16.8pts 6.3asts 3.9rbs 0.8stls 2.5tos .475 fg% .222 from 3pt, .788 ft%

CP3 - 36mpg 16.1pts 7.8asts 5.1rbs 2.2stls 2.3tos .430 fg% .282 from 3pt, .847 ft%

Deron Williams - 28.8 mpg 10.8pts 4.5asts 2.4rbs 0.8 stls 1.8tos .421 fg% .416 from 3pt .704 ft%

There are some differences that jump out, but by and large, he's in the same pocket, at least statistically, as Rose, CP3 and Williams. CP3 was definitely more of a game-changer imo (at least looking at respective rosters and results) right off the bat.

The top 3 things Wall needs to work on the rest of this season and this offseason are:

1) Turnovers, obviously. He has already started to work on this and is showing good progress. When he starts to press, however, he'll give up at least a TO a game trying to dribble through 3 or 4 defenders, as well as getting called for charges.

2) The J, obviously. You can see that he has a decent stroke, he just needs a lot of practice. He needs to practice his wide open J so he has confidence in it, and he needs to work on his pull-up J. With his speed and height, a one or two dribble / escape dribble pull up J would be lethal.

3) Get stronger. Pretty much true of every young player. But he needs to condition his body if he's going to continue to absorb the contact he takes.

Posted by: ts35 | February 1, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

KJ

I don't think anybody is down on Wall. He is doing what he can with what he got. Just because people are saying he isn't having a rookie year like Rose or CP3, doesn't mean he is having a bad season.

Posted by: G-Man11 | February 1, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

the fact that it doesn't make sense. Stat and Nash play on two different teams that have undergone a myriad of changes since last season. I guess it was an ok joke, but more along the lines of your dickish snarkism. Look at their stats those teams score a lot and get scored on alot. Defense isn't the only way to win the game, it's just the best place to start. But remember if you don't know how to score, the best you can do is a tie.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 1, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

LOL I was just laughing with my homeboy about something...we're getting what? 16/8 from Dray? I said as a joke that we could get rid of AB and probably get that same output from Yi with the same soft play but more effort with increased minutes.

Then I sat and thought about it....and it wasn't funny anymore. It's damn near true.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 1, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

"the fact that it doesn't make sense. Stat and Nash play on two different teams that have undergone a myriad of changes since last season. I guess it was an ok joke, but more along the lines of your dickish snarkism. Look at their stats those teams score a lot and get scored on alot. Defense isn't the only way to win the game, it's just the best place to start. But remember if you don't know how to score, the best you can do is a tie.Posted by: lilhollywood10"

OK, I see why you thought my comment was erroneous -- you didn't understand it.

If that's 'dickish snarkism', so be it.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

But I'm saying who the F*** cares what NY has to say? And who is he to even make those comments publicly?

Nick wouldn't even start on most teams in the league. His numbers are no different than Blatche's and for that matter the 2nd coming of Gil's..

Go look at Gil's PT and overall numbers since he has been traded to a decent team.

Same exact thing would happen to 7 Day if he were sent to a decent team and same exact thing would happen to NY.

Just saying Nick ain't done nearly enough for anyone to listen or even take seriously his comments on play calling. Like Flip said he didn't say sh** about defense.

Which again is where their problems lie.

So then stop it with the Flip's play calling and the "they need to score more points" because it's ridiculous.. Flip has forgotten more basketball than the entire roster combined.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record...who is "they" that say Flip's offense pads assist stats?

Mike Prada and the folks on that site. I think the idea is many 'regular' passes end up as assists due to the emphasis on mid-range Js.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

@SDMDTSU,

EXACTLY..It's not funny and it's completely true.

"LOL I was just laughing with my homeboy about something...we're getting what? 16/8 from Dray? I said as a joke that we could get rid of AB and probably get that same output from Yi with the same soft play but more effort with increased minutes."

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anybody in Washington has forgotten what it's like to have a team that relies on its ability to just outscore opponents who are putting up formidable point totals of their own. It's pretty frustrating. That's true even if you have a premier scorer like Gilbert Arenas. You keep getting beat by teams that also play defense.

And if your team doesn't have much reliable scoring, you can always keep games close, and steal some victories, by playing good defense.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

If you ask me who has been the major disappointment on the Wizards it has to be Andray Blatche. The team is getting nothing whatsoever out of the power forward position. A jump shooting PF who is soft and unable to play defense. Priority #1, draft a power forward whose game is mostly played in the paint. Get a coach who is going to recognize the fact that when something is not working try something else.

Posted by: spades72 | February 1, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

" I said as a joke that we could get rid of AB and probably get that same output from Yi with the same soft play but more effort with increased minutes.Then I sat and thought about it....and it wasn't funny anymore. It's damn near true.Posted by: SDMDTSU"

Yep. Difference is Yi could hit some of those jumpers.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Flip has forgotten more basketball than the entire roster combined.

True enough.

But it's the height of hubris to think you or any fan on the internet knows more about nba ball or Flip's offense than the players on the team do. Anything Nick says about the Wizard's schemes holds 100x more validity than junk posted in chatrooms by fans who assume the players are just dumb. Young lives Flip's offense EVERYDAY, it's his profession.

re:defense...Nick's been as good as this team has defensively, and last night was no exception, so apparently he is down with the defensive approach.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Yep. Difference is Yi could hit some of those jumpers.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I kinda like what I see from Yi. He's not gonna be a dominant player I don't think...but he could be a nice guy to change pace off the bench if we get a real PF in here. He Plays hard even with his deficiencies. I wouldn't mind him sticking around at a reasonable price.

Maybe that's just me. I'll take someone a little less gifted that plays hard (Booker) over someone with all the talent in the world and lazy (Dray)

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 1, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

@divi3,

I didn't say I knew more about anything than Nick. But I do know that Nick shouldn't be questioning Flip publicly if at all.

Simple. Look at what Nick has accomplished versus what Flip has accomplished and tell me who should be following who..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

But I will say that is an issue. That a bench rider on 80% of the leagues rosters would even have the audacity to say what he said publicly about his coach..

Now that is a different issue. But Flip clearly can coach. Just not this Arenas infected group...

Posted by: kevenjones | February 1, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

"But he needs to condition his body if he's going to continue to absorb the contact he takes.Posted by: ts35"

I always thought that might be Allen Iverson's big strength. He had been a big-time running QB in high school and excelled at keeping his balance in spite of getting hit.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

But I do know that Nick shouldn't be questioning Flip publicly if at all.

Yeah, he definitely shouldnt have said it publicly.

Simple. Look at what Nick has accomplished versus what Flip has accomplished and tell me who should be following who

What was the team's record before Gil got suspended? It's not like Flip was tearing it up and then got stuck with a young team. Obviously Nick is not the person to be calling the plays....but to hear Phil and Grant Hill comment negatively on the team's play-calling, and then read that opposing players call out our stuff before we run it (not sure if that's true or not)....could be time for a little variation imo

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Some do-able things to fix the Bullets:
1. Get a tall, tough banger. Someone who can clog the middle consistently and play inspired defense.
2. Teach the whole team how to pass to each other. How to make the easy pass. How to pass immediately after receiving a pass. How to constantly look for the open man, especially behind the arc or near the basket.
3. Teach JW when it pays to slow down.
4. Teach the team how to put the ball into play immediately after the other team scores.
5. Teach those who need help how to shoot free throws and make them. I guaranty that I could turn lousy free-throw shooters into succesasfuol free-throw shooters within five one-hour sessions.

Julian Tepper
Placitas, NM

Posted by: jutepper1 | February 1, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

nick young sucks thats the problem maybe if ever shot he put up wasnt a fade away he could hit some jw dont like him him bring gilbert back or do something that dude is sorry make lewis the 2 do something

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

nick young sucks thats the problem maybe if ever shot he put up wasnt a fade away he could hit some jw dont like him him bring gilbert back or do something that dude is sorry make lewis the 2 do something

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

nick young sucks thats the problem maybe if ever shot he put up wasnt a fade away he could hit some jw dont like him him bring gilbert back or do something that dude is sorry make lewis the 2 do something

Posted by: croniccured | February 1, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'll take retarded for $200, Alex.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 1, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Just for the record...who is "they" that say Flip's offense pads assist stats?

Mike Prada and the folks on that site. I think the idea is many 'regular' passes end up as assists due to the emphasis on mid-range Js.

Posted by: divi3

How does that jive with the assessment that the midrange jumper is the least efficient shot in basketball?

Posted by: ts35 | February 1, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Plus, if it's the offense, shouldn't the team be higher than 20th in assists?

Posted by: ts35 | February 1, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Glad to get Wizards results here. I do not get late night game results in my copy of the Post!

Posted by: HLSHAP | February 1, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Glad to get Wizards results here. I do not get late night game results in my copy of the Post!

Posted by: HLSHAP | February 1, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

How does that jive with the assessment that the midrange jumper is the least efficient shot in basketball?

It makes sense because settling for a J still results in an assist. If Dray or Nick or whomever was catching the ball and driving to the rack, the team would be better but Wall's assists would probably be down a bit.

Posted by: divi3 | February 1, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Some do-able things to fix the Bullets:
1. Get a tall, tough banger. Someone who can clog the middle consistently and play inspired defense."

That's sort of what NO did with Okafor -- didn't they trade Tyson Chandler for him? But the results didn't come until they switched to Monty Williams' San Antonio-style defensive scheme.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"How does that jive with the assessment that the midrange jumper is the least efficient shot in basketball?"

Teams avoid the 16-23 footers because the FG% drops and you don't get 3 points for each make.

Nonetheless if you can hit the shot, you can hit the shot, so an individual player may yet be pretty efficient at that range.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 1, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

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