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Posted at 7:01 PM ET, 02/28/2011

Open thread: Wizards (15-43) vs. Bulls (40-17)

By Michael Lee

Mike Bibby accepted a buyout agreement with the Wizards on Monday and the team replaced him by signing Mustafa Shakur for the rest of the season. Shakur said his focus remains the same. "When I got my first 10-day I didn't look at it like I got 10 days to prove what I can do. I just said I'm going to go out and play basketball to best of my ability every night." Andray Blatche will return to the lineup after missing the past two games with a strained right hip. Blatche had a difficult night the last time the Wizards hosted Chicago, as he missed 11 of 14 shots, committed four turnovers, and was booed nearly every time he touched the ball in the fourth quarter of an 87-80 loss. Nick Young is four points from reaching 1,000 points for the season.

Let the conversation begin in the thread below. You can also join the conversation on Twitter with Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee). See your tweets here by using #wizards.

Tipoff: 7:00 p.m.; TV: CSN; Radio: 106.7 FM. Check out a live box score from tonight's game here.

By Michael Lee  | February 28, 2011; 7:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

Mcgee and Blatche starting this is comedy!

Posted by: tseanw | February 28, 2011 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Mcgee and Blatche starting this is comedy!

Posted by: tseanw | February 28, 2011 7:20 PM | Report abuse

McGee = McGoo

Posted by: bazookajoe1 | February 28, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

I see they signed Shakur again. Assume that means he's healthy now.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 28, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

As long as Flip keeps playing Blatche monster minutes, the team has absolutely no chance of being any good. His effort on offense and defense are pathetic. They played two great competitive games against the Heat and Mavs without him. Coincidence, I think not. Booker now back to the bench. What a joke. If Leonsis doesn't do something about Saunders and Gunfeld after this year, I'm done.

Posted by: mschmall625 | February 28, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Forget about Rose, the Bulls' inside game is destroying the Wizards.

Complete mismatch.

McGee has to get his head on straight.

As for Blatche, he's a lost cause.

They need to find two big men. Somehow. Somewhere. Someway.

Posted by: SteveMG | February 28, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

On a night when the Bull's two best player's (Rose&Boozer) are shooting poorly the Wiz are still getting smoked, like i said in an earlier post this is one of the most forgettable season's since i've been a fan (47 plus years) third straight year of fifty plus loses since they fired Eddie Jordan and no plan in place to stop the bleeding just unbelievable.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 28, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

They say that every stupid idea has its time. Whoever they is.

Time to fire Saunders.

Won't make a lick of difference, okay. But he's lost this team. Or the team doesn't respond to him. Or neither.

Or something.

Time to do something. Anything.

They're not progressing in any way.

Try something else at this point.

Posted by: SteveMG | February 28, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

BOOK and SERAPHIN continue to improve. Good news

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 28, 2011 9:44 PM | Report abuse

As long as Flip keeps playing Blatche monster minutes, the team has absolutely no chance of being any good. His effort on offense and defense are pathetic

'DRAY was actually a spectator in the first quarter. He didn't even begin to move his feet until near the half.

Posted by: glawrence007 | February 28, 2011 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The Wizards missed a bunch of tip-ins, layups and short jumpers. That, and the usual crappy interior D resulted in a 30 pt. loss. It's time to end the McGee and Blatche experiment. They've been consistently bad together all year. Seraphin looks to be the starter next season, I'd like to see him get some starts now.

Posted by: djnnnou | February 28, 2011 10:00 PM | Report abuse

One of the unintended side benefits of Seraphin's rapid development is that it pretty effectively torpedoes all of the mealy-mouthed excuses being offered by McGee's cheering section.

As recently as two months ago, Serpain looked so lost on the court that it could be considered a triumph if he made it through a game without shooting at the wrong basket. Now he looks focused and dialed in and is displaying an impressive array of offensive skills. The fact that he got from where he was to where he is so quickly (esp. when you consider all the obstacles: limited organized bball experience, language and culture barrier/adjustment, recovering--physically and mentally--from the knee injury, and playing catch up after missing out on summer league and training camp) would seem to indicate that:

(A) The Wizards' coaching staff has done a great job with him, thus putting the lie to the notion that they're congenitally incapable of coaching, training, and developing big men without the mythical "big man's coach"

OR

(B) Seraphin's improvement is solely a result of his own initiative and hard work, thus putting the lie to the notion that players can only improve if they're taken gently by their soft little hands and led carefully through the dangerous frightening land mine that is hard work.

Either way . . . what the hell is McGee's problem?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 28, 2011 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Rumor has it Wall called his agent after the Bibby buyout to see if he could get out of Washington that easy?

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 28, 2011 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm also liking what I'm seeing from Crawford. He came in with a rep as a scorer but he shows some decent playmaking instincts. He made some mistakes, but it think once the game slows down for him and he's not moving at warp speed all the time, those will decrease. He could end up being a solid two position backup guard.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 28, 2011 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I like what I see in Seraphin. I prefer him playing at the 4 but he done a decent job at the 5. Crawford is a good pick up. He could be something special for us. I don't get the rant in here regarding McGee. He who he is, a solid back up center with some upside. We all already knew he not going to do damage from the inside until he gain at least 50 more pounds. The problem with that however, he has asthma. The more weigh he gains the more problems he'll have with asthma. So, have him come off the bench and try to find a starting center somewhere. Until then, get rid of Blatche. The dude look totally unmotivated.

Posted by: demonj21 | February 28, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I can tell you McGee's problem. He is not a very bright basketball player. I can only imagine his overall intellectual level, but there are many not so smart athletes who are at least smart athletically, which he certainly is not.

Posted by: rphilli721 | February 28, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Crawford could end up being a solid two position backup guard.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 28, 2011 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Ernie told us the same thing about Foye last year another former 1st round pick.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | February 28, 2011 10:48 PM | Report abuse

It really amazes me that the Philadelphia 76ers are a 500 basketball Team.

At the beginning of the season if you would have asked me which Team would fair better this year between them and us, there is no way I would have envisioned them being that much better than us.

The Philadelphia 76ers are 30 and 29. How can that be. What does Collins know that Saunders doesn't know.

Maybe we should have kept Collins, or did he decide to leave when Michael was fired?

Seems like ages ago.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 28, 2011 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 28, 2011 11:09 PM | Report abuse

"I see they signed Shakur again. Assume that means he's healthy now.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 28, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse "

LOL! As if it mattered at all....

Posted by: DC_MAN88 | February 28, 2011 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Either way . . . what the hell is McGee's problem?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 28, 2011 10:20 PM

Rapid development by Seraphin. Thats a stretch. We've barely seen him play. We've really should have seen more of him and McGee.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 28, 2011 11:11 PM | Report abuse

So, apparently McGee's cheering section hasn't run out mealy-mouthed excuses.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 28, 2011 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Not to make you boys too jealous, hell we lost by 28, but I had the privilege of sitting courtside at this evening. I think there is something to be said about literally seeing things up close, so here are a few thoughts:

1. Andray Blatche and JaVale absolutely need to go. I don't need to say much about Dray - pretty much the entire forum is in agreement here and he will be by next yrs trade deadline. McGee, on the other hand, is a debatable topic. Several times during the game, Nick Young and Wall were FURIOUS with McGee for his ineptitude and laziness on both ends of the court. At one point in the fourth quarter McGee got the ball, lowered his head, and took two dribbles as Young's defender collapsed and swiped the ball off McGee's leg for a turnover. Young turned around disgusted, screamed some expletives looking up at the sky, and said, "You've got to be kidding me." We've seen this from McGee all season. Also, he is one of if not the softest players on the team. He is the absolute paramount of what Kevin Durant was talking about when he said, "there are a lot of fake tough guys in this league." You know how you can just tell whether a guy has "it"? McGee doesn't have any of it. It's a shame he is so damn freakishly talented but he really does have a brighter future on the Globetrotters than the Wizzies. Couldn't be happier that his minutes are trending more and more to Seraphin.

2. Nick Young needs to stay. As goofy as he is off the court, he really does seem to want to work and play hard right now (oh yeah, he's up for a contract this season..). Anyways, he and Wall were feeding off of and encouraging each other all night. He's actually a pretty good defender too, and he's been improving that all season. He does need to mature a lot, but he genuinely cared about trying to win the game even with us down 20 in the 4th. I've never seen him as frustrated though as he was with the sloppy play of some of the other guys on the court. I have a feeling he takes a HUGE leap this offseason when he has plenty of time to watch film and work with the coaching staff as a starter. Nick & John's games compliment each other perfectly.

3. I thought Flip was going take a chair and smash McGee over the head with it at one point tonight. Once in the 1st half and once in the 2nd he came back in for Seraphin and within a minute he gave up horrendous "effort" offensive rebounds. The first time, Saunders stared him down, turned to the bench, yelled for Kevin to get his a$$ to the scorers table and here is the sequence of McGee's reaction. 1st, rolls his eyes, starts audibly b!tch!ng while play is going on, someone get's an easy layup. 2nd, demands ball next offensive possession and forces up a wild hook shot that almost breaks the backboard. He's young and learning, but like I said, you can tell he doesn't have "it". Some team will give up a lot for him this summer though, I can’t wait.

4. Josh Howard is a great vet to have - plays super hard.

Posted by: dfresh58 | February 28, 2011 11:23 PM | Report abuse

One last thing about point #2 on my comment, can you imagine Nick starting at instead of Bogans for the Bulls? Rose would have +2 or 3 assists per night, and thus the bulls 4-9 more points per night. That could be us someday....ahhhh, dreaming of better days to come...

Posted by: dfresh58 | February 28, 2011 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Either way . . . what the hell is McGee's problem?
Posted by: kalo_rama

----

you know what it is: a combination of low iq (i.e., he thinks he knows more than the coaches), pig-headedness (i.e., he's going to do it his way, no matter what the coaches say), need to make the highlight-reel play (self-explanatory), and incredibly deluded opinion of his own abilities (hey, why can't I play center and pg and whatever else I want at the same time?).

Posted by: MinuMang | February 28, 2011 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Anyway, the only significance to signing Shakur is that it makes somebody wrong -- again.

You know who you are.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 1, 2011 12:02 AM | Report abuse

"Either way . . . what the hell is McGee's problem?Posted by: kalo_rama"

McGee does seem to have gotten lost somewhere along the way. He had that one strong game against Miami, but otherwise seems pretty disoriented out there.

Maybe rest him a bit?

Posted by: Samson151 | March 1, 2011 12:07 AM | Report abuse

If McGee had a solid grasp of his game and fundamentals, he could easily dominate in certain ways even at his current weight. So, I don't buy he has to gain x amount of pounds to be effective. Kevin Love can't get off the ground and sucks in rebounds like McGee can only dream about. He could also be one of the best protectors of the rim in the league, but he mixes impressive blocks with an inability to read plays and goaltends more than any player in recent memory.

NY is tricky. You have to like his progress, but he still strikes me as fool's gold. It's one thing to play free and easy and let your scoring ability flow on a bad team with no pressure. But, what does he become when the pressure is dialed up a notch and things get slightly more physical. After all, the goal is a contender in 2/3 years. I sign him, but only for the right price.

AB is the eternal enigma. It may be time to move on and I think his contract extension may be EG's worst move as GM here. It made no sense when it was done and it makes less sense now. Plus, this was all on him. There was no prodding from Pollin from the grave. It just looks like the drive disappeared from AB overnight - (clear throat), I wonder why! The season is almost over and he has yet to work himself into the same shape he was in at the end of last season and we can see the results. I guess he gets one more chance in my book, but I don't see a happy ending. I hope his mom gets on him for "looking" lazy again this offseason.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 1, 2011 12:48 AM | Report abuse

AB's contract isn't even really THAT bad. He makes 5.9, 6.4, 7.1, 7.8, and 8.4 over the next five years. The length kind of sucks but it's not like it cripples us in any way shape or form. It's definitely better than the 6 yr 36 mil he gave Etan however many years ago.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/washington.htm

Posted by: dfresh58 | March 1, 2011 12:59 AM | Report abuse

It is a bad contract when you get sloppy effort from him on most nights and he is non-coachable at the same time. So, not exactly a great example to have hanging around other young players trying to learn the right way to play.

And, Larry, what are you talking about. Philadelphia is easily a better team than us. I am slightly surprised they are in the playoff hunt, but not at all surprised they are better than us. Just look at the rosters for crying out loud. Not to mention the continuity diffrences. A better question would be what the hell did Eddie Jorday do to that team bc it's the same roster with completely different results. It's the reason why EJ will never be a head coach in the NBA again. Although I'm sure Dargreg is somewhere weeping under the covers. Funny he has never addressed this glaring indictment of his coaching hero.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 1, 2011 1:53 AM | Report abuse

I might be tempted to assert that Javale's recent problems result from that dunk event -- but of course they didn't really.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 1, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

"Philadelphia is easily a better team than us. I am slightly surprised they are in the playoff hunt, but not at all surprised they are better than us. Just look at the rosters for crying out loud. Not to mention the continuity diffrences."

Oh sure they are. Big difference is improved play from Brand and the continued development of Holiday. But Louis Williams is a legit threat, too.

Problem is the long term -- that's the sort of team that could fall into the trap of winning 40 games a year and drafting in the middle of the pack.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 1, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

@ Samson,

Exactly, there is nothing on their roster to really get excited about either. You left out the other AI.

Anyway, frankly, I would rather go through our process now with JW and another lottery pick and other youngsters with cap space than be a constant 678 seed that Philly seems to be set up for.

Posted by: rphilli721 | March 1, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

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