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Posted at 8:30 AM ET, 02/10/2011

One losing streak snapped

By Washington Post editors
Morning brew

Besides the win itself, some unusual sights were beheld last night when the Wizards ended a season-high eight-game losing streak with a 100-85 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks. Here's the postgame wrap-up.

John Wall made a quick trip to Rupp Arena on Tuesday.

Box Seats blogger Kevin Broom says Wall is the Wizards' one true building block.

There's a treat in store for fans who attend Saturday's game against the San Antonio Spurs -- a Bottom's Up beer dispenser (DC Sports Bog).

AROUND THE WEB
Sean Fagan scrutinizes Flip Saunders's post-game comments (Bullets Forever).

Kyle Weidie takes a closer look at Nick Young's spectacular dunks (Truth About It).

ESPN.com's David Thorpe compares Wall to NBA all-stars Rajon Rondo and Derrick Rose and wonders when, or if, he'll be able to break through and represent the Eastern Conference in an All-Star Game. Thorpe theorizes that Wall could be an all-star by next season and in the discussion about best point guard in the East in two years.

ESPN Insider Tom Haberstroh calls Nick Young one of the league's top overachievers.

With Carmelo Anthony trade rumors getting new life and taking new twists, it might be a good to time to revisit this old article in the satirical Onion Sports Network that claims Sam Cassell wants in on the Anthony deal.

By Washington Post editors  | February 10, 2011; 8:30 AM ET
Categories:  Morning brew  
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anyone else notice hinrich getting torched on defense and locked down and turning it over on offense in the fourth quarter? luckily flip came to his senses and took him out and let wall run the point... hinrichs our best perimiter defender?? HAAA...just cuz he tries doesent make him good.

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 10, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Mcgee and Dray combined for 23FGAs...a grand total of 3 were outside 10ft. That's how the team needs to play, it's been said forever, but it only rarely happens.

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I keep wondering if Flip is being extra hard on McGee because he sees that he can be great (dare I say another Kevin Garnett?) or because of some other reason we don't know? Because while it's ok to yank players after bone headed mistakes, sometimes you just have to let them play through it. Should McGee be bringing up the ball from the backcourt? Heck no. But pulling him out of the game immediately is not th solution. If it was, he would be the ideal player by now. And it's starting to become a public humiliation. How's he supposed to respond positively to that?

Posted by: tundey | February 10, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

and ET (Sam Cassel) now wants to play for a team??? wat a joke of a coaching staff

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 10, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

when mcgee stays down and goes for the rebound instead of the block he is a rebounding machine. That one goal tend must have shifted his focus. I still think he should go for a selected few blocks when he rotates on help defense but definitely not isolation plays where the player sees it coming.

Posted by: jefferu | February 10, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

But pulling him out of the game immediately is not th solution. If it was, he would be the ideal player by now. And it's starting to become a public humiliation. How's he supposed to respond positively to that?

I think Flip has been more positive lately (publicly) about Nick and Mcgee. Recently he defended Javale's terrible play as being due to sickness and asthma for instance. But last night, he pretty much let that one play be the focal point of his comments. Of course, I doubt Javale even listens to Flip's postgame comments- that stuff is for us and the media.

Nonetheless....Javale flat out dominated Bogut last night, and Flip's most positive comments were about Bogut being as good as any Center in the league when he is healthy, then went on to say how Bogut isnt himself yet and blah, blah.

A little "Our guy kicked their butts" woulda been nice...

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

"when mcgee stays down and goes for the rebound instead of the block he is a rebounding machine."

I don't know about the 'machine' part, but he sure is a more productive rebounder.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"and ET (Sam Cassel) now wants to play for a team??? wat a joke of a coaching staff.Posted by: skinsfan09"

Onion Sports Network.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Should McGee be bringing up the ball from the backcourt? Heck no. But pulling him out of the game immediately is not th solution. If it was, he would be the ideal player by now. And it's starting to become a public humiliation. How's he supposed to respond positively to that?

Posted by: tundey | February 10, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I'd say sit him down. It's not like it's the first, second, third ot fourth time he's done it. He's gotta know better than to do that. Even with the game pretty much out of reach..that lack of focus for the full 48 mintues is one of the big problems for this team.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 10, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"Javale flat out dominated Bogut last night..."

He outplayed him, definitely. But a player who's being 'dominated' doesn't finish with 11 boards, 4 blocks, 4 assists, and 12 points on 6 of 12 shooting, in 38 minutes. McGee and Bogut hit the same number of shots; Javale's edge was at the line, where Andrew finished 0 for 3.

Bogut is a really good center. Javale gets credit for an excellent game, but really, do we need a coach who woofs and barks after the game like he's some half-drunk fan in the third row?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Bogut is a really good center. Javale gets credit for an excellent game, but really, do we need a coach who woofs and barks after the game like he's some half-drunk fan in the third row?

Did you watch the postgame? Flip didnt say a single positive word about Javale's performance, not one. Do we need a coach who makes excuses for the other team's Center when our Center outplays him? That's what Flip did postgame.

By the way, do you still want to start Kirk to get Wall in his "comfort zone" since apparently we have seen enough of Nick and it's time for a change? Terrible outing for Young last, real shame Flip didnt have him on the bench huh?

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

btw- Bogut scored 8pts in the first few mins then 4pts the rest of the night while picking up 5 fouls. That's a dominant outing by our guy, outside the first few possessions of the game.

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see last night entire game but I saw the last 6 minutes. Flip needs to be more positive with Javale but the timing of him trying to bring the ball of the court warranted taking him out last night. He seems to always do this at crucial points in the game. You would think he would have learned by now. Plays like that from Javale really hurt the team in crunch time. The Bucks were on the infamous run to "get back into the game against the Wizards" and he was very lucky that he didn't turn the ball over.

He can bring it up but get off of it when you cross half court. I just need him to play within his role. I love Javale's athleticism and upside but some things like goal tending when you clearly know that the ball is on a downward flight is unacceptable.

He has to get better fast. Many fans lack patience. They think we should be contending for an NBA championship this year because we got the number one pick. Or better yet in the playoff hunt when every team from our division made the playoffs last year except for the Wizards.

Posted by: JWADE4 | February 10, 2011 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Blatche flat out stinks...

McGee just needs to work on his BB IQ. He had a great game but just does some of the dumbest sh** you ever want to see. It is just truly hard to watch and sometimes overshadows his overall performance..Coach is bull's eye right in what he said...

Looking forward to getting our first win on the road vs the Cavs!!!

Posted by: kevenjones | February 10, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

"Flip didnt say a single positive word about Javale's performance, not one. Do we need a coach who makes excuses for the other team's Center when our Center outplays him? That's what Flip did postgame." posted by divi3

But in the interests of accuracy, here's what you actually said:

"A little "Our guy kicked their butts" woulda been nice..."

And here's my answer: no, it wouldn't. That sort of woofing should be confined to the court, or out in the stands with the amateurs.

We waste a lot of time around here worrying about Javale's feelings. That's his agent's job.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"btw- Bogut scored 8pts in the first few mins then 4pts the rest of the night while picking up 5 fouls. That's a dominant outing by our guy, outside the first few possessions of the game.Posted by: divi3"

You mean, the possessions where Bogut scored the game's first 8 points? It's funny what you decide to exclude. By the way, picking up a bunch of fouls on the opponent's home court -- that's never happened to any of our big men, has it?

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 11:28 AM | Report abuse

You mean, the possessions where Bogut scored the game's first 8 points? It's funny what you decide to exclude. By the way, picking up a bunch of fouls on the opponent's home court -- that's never happened to any of our big men, has it?

How am I excluding it by specifically mentioning it. Fouls? Are you making excuses for Bogut as well? And speaking of excluding, guess you have no more thoughts on the need to start Kirk over Nick for the sake of Wall's development?

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Yeah McGee played well.

That's of no consequence honestly. I don't care what any of them do on a game by game basis. I want them to start stringing it together good individual performances and develop some consistency.

If JaVale comes back with a 3 rebound game...this really doesn't mean much.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 10, 2011 11:39 AM | Report abuse

On a night when Rashard was terrible and Kirk tried to give the game away....instead of saying "It was great to see our young guys step up in crunchtime and get a win over a playoff team from last year"

Flip went the route of, "The bucks have had so many injuries and even though their guys are back they are still not right. They arent the same team as last year blah, blah"

Is it a big deal? Not really. But it speaks to Flip's demeanor and does have an effect on the team. Maybe positive in that players dont get full of themselves, but maybe negative when they tune the coach out

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"By the way, do you still want to start Kirk to get Wall in his "comfort zone" since apparently we have seen enough of Nick and it's time for a change? Terrible outing for Young last, real shame Flip didnt have him on the bench huh?Posted by: divi3"

Once again, in the interests of accuracy (and at least I'm interested in it):

1. I never said Kirk should start. I don't care who starts. I said he should possibly get some more minutes next to Wall.
2. I did say that Wall seemed out of his comfort zone and the Wiz should do something to help him get back to his preferred style of play. That this is perhaps the best use the Wiz could make of the remaining games.
3. I also said Nick seemed to have gone backwards a little in recent games and maybe it would be a good idea to dial back the pressure on him a bit.

As far as player evaluation, we've seen a lot of Nick. He's averaging 32 minutes a game for the year, much more than that if we look at his starts (28). Figure he continues to average 30 minutes for the rest of the season -- how much more evidence does Ernie need to make his decision? Answer: none.

BTW, Wall played OK, but far from the quality of some of his other outings. He finished with 15 points on 5-9 FGs, with 6 assists, 2 steals, 7 boards, and 3 TOs. He was actually a little better against Atlanta.

I'm going to agree with Kevin Broom -- the Wiz have one building block, and they really need to focus on building him the heck up.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Did you watch the postgame? Flip didnt say a single positive word about Javale's performance, not one.

That's just not true. The dribbling is obviously a peeve, but Flip brought up the rebounding several times. Saunders Postgame Presser

Posted by: djnnnou | February 10, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"And speaking of excluding, guess you have no more thoughts on the need to start Kirk over Nick for the sake of Wall's development?
Posted by: divi3"

See above. Maybe you're listening to the music of your own thoughts, rather than mine.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

"And speaking of excluding, guess you have no more thoughts on the need to start Kirk over Nick for the sake of Wall's development?
Posted by: divi3"

See my previous post. Maybe you're listening to the music of your own thoughts, rather than mine.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I thought Wall played better than his stats, Many times at home he seems to get 5, 6, 7, assists in the 1stQ but they are mainly passes to open jumpshooters. I thought he may have passed the ball better last night, as he was finding the interior. Doesnt get the assist, but it's a better play IMO

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Should McGee be bringing up the ball from the backcourt? Heck no. But pulling him out of the game immediately is not th solution. If it was, he would be the ideal player by now. And it's starting to become a public humiliation. How's he supposed to respond positively to that?

Posted by: tundey | February 10, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

I'd say sit him down. It's not like it's the first, second, third ot fourth time he's done it. He's gotta know better than to do that. Even with the game pretty much out of reach..that lack of focus for the full 48 mintues is one of the big problems for this team.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 10, 2011 10:47 AM

I remember seeing clips of Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain when he was in college and that would be about McGee's age now. Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain, the steelman of NBA centers dribbled the ball the length of the court to score on many occasions.

Sometimes I think we get basketball mixed up with baseball where the players roles have become so defined that a good baseball game is a dime a dozen. Pitchers used to be the best all around players on the Team, now they just pitch.

McGee has an instinct to dribble the ball. If Flip were smart, he would make sure that McGee mastered the art of dribbling for his size since McGee wants to dribble 'evernowandthen.'

And I tells you what, if McGee mastered the dribble his post game would improve significantly. Flip doesn't want him to dribble at all, not even in the post in most cases. In order to be a good post player, you have to master the dribble.

Wilt Chamberlain had the dribble mastered in college. But in McGee's case Flip's message to McGee is not to dribble.

I am telling yawl and Flip don't have a clue, McGee has to master the dribble to become a complete player just like Wilt the Stilt did.

Remember, would this not be McGee's final year of college and because of defined roles and what we think big men should be doing, we are still telling this kid not to dribble and some say move him to power forward. A power forward better have the dribble mastered.

I am telling some of yawl folks don't know what real balling is.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 10, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I never said Kirk should start. I don't care who starts. I said he should possibly get some more minutes next to Wall.

So Wall can play SG? That's what I dont understand, it doesnt make sense (imo) to play Wall next to another PG.

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"So Wall can play SG? That's what I dont understand, it doesnt make sense (imo) to play Wall next to another PG.Posted by: divi3"

So Wall can play next to somebody with maturity for a while. If Ray Allen were a Wizard, that would be even better. Kirk may not be a natural SG, but he's mature and unselfish -- maturity not being a term you hear used a lot about Nick Young.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"I am telling yawl and Flip don't have a clue, McGee has to master the dribble to become a complete player just like Wilt the Stilt did....I am telling some of yawl folks don't know what real balling is.LarryInClintonMD.Posted by: LarryInClintonMD"

LOL I'd respond to the above, but physics has already demonstrated that sounds do not carry well through cement.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 10, 2011 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have ESPN's the insider? Its probably nothing but something little but I wanted to see what they said about NY as being one of the leagues overachievers this year

Posted by: dlts2041 | February 10, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Really take a look at big men in the game, the good ones now and in the past. Now, for sure the center shouldn't be dribbling down the court, but if he does he should have the dribble mastered. McGee doesn't yet and its probably because of the misguided wisdom that says he shouldn't be dribbling the ball.

But all the good big men had the dribble mastered. Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Wes, Hakeem, Thurmond, Reed, Dawkins, and on and on and on. Big men must master the dribble in order to have a good post game.

It is probably why McGee looks so wild at times in the Post because he is being told not to dribble. If you want a player to post with his back to the basket, he has to have mastered the dribble. Dribbling is the key to mastering moves in the paint to become really good. In a lot of cases you might need to take only one or two dribbles.

I guarantee no one is teaching or telling McGee to master the dribble in the paint. They are telling him not to dribble. Post moves and dribbles go hand in hand.

McGee's mother was the last reported person who seem to tell McGee that he has to master the dribble.

McGee should be encouraged to dribble and if he decides to dribble unwisely the length of the court from being in the flow of the game, you cannot bench him for that.

You holla, what the hey McGee! what are you doing! Don't screw it up McGee! You better posterize! Encourage him and make damn sure you are telling him it is a must to his overall game to have mastered the dribble.

Kevin Garnett has mastered the dribble. I don't see any indication that McGee has any green light to make post moves or that plays are called for him where he has to dribble. He is doing all of that on the fly, if you just watch his play.

McGee gets criticized for just being a dunker, but no post up game is being called for him. Why? Because we don't want him to dribble. It is a MUST.

Lamar Odom would not be the player he is today without the dribble.

Javale McGee is talented enough to be as good a dribbler than Blatche whom can dribble the length but doesn't anymore probably because he is told not too.

I rather teach players to be all around basketball players than limited role players that Flip keeps harping on. It is much easier to mesh a group of all around players than it is to mesh limited role players.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 10, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

ESPN Insider article on Nick:

(2) Nick Young, SG, Washington Wizards
Young has become one of the best pure scorers in the game in that he focuses purely on scoring and little else. Feel free to pass him the ball, just don't expect to get it back. The Wizards guard is averaging 17.4 points per game and just 1.3 assists. In the past 50 years, no guard has scored more than 17 points per game while keeping his assists average as low as Young has this season.

But if a player brings one bankable skill to the table, efficient scoring is not a bad one to choose. The 25-year-old has doubled his 2009-10 scoring average this season, thanks to a huge bump in playing time and touches. But often when a player shoulders a bigger scoring load like Young has this season, you tend to see scoring efficiency tumble. Instead, Young has posted a career high in true shooting percentage after being handed the keys.

Young can score from anywhere on the court, but he's no longer merely a spot-up shooter. The Wizards may be one of the worst teams in the league but don't blame their backcourt play. John Wall and Young make up one of the most promising guard tandems in the game.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | February 10, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

,i>"Should McGee be bringing up the ball from the backcourt? Heck no. But pulling him out of the game immediately is not th solution. If it was, he would be the ideal player by now. And it's starting to become a public humiliation. How's he supposed to respond positively to that?"

Posted by: tundey | February 10, 2011 9:13 AM

Well, if he had the same capacity for learning as your average poodle, he'd respond to it by refraining from doing the thing that keeps getting him punished.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 10, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"Javale McGee is talented enough to be as good a dribbler than Blatche whom can dribble the length but doesn't anymore probably because he is told not too."

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | February 10, 2011 12:25 PM

And why was he told not to? Could it possibly, maybe, have had something to do with his propensity to dribble the ball into traffic and bounce it off his foot, either out of bounds or into the hands of the opposition? Possibly? maybe? Ya think?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 10, 2011 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Did you watch the postgame? Flip didnt say a single positive word about Javale's performance, not one.

Posted by: divi3 | February 10, 2011 11:09 AM

That's just not true. The dribbling is obviously a peeve, but Flip brought up the rebounding several times. Saunders Postgame Presser
Posted by: djnnnou | February 10, 2011 11:47 AM

Well, in divi3's defense, Flip's most positive comments came right at the beginning of the presser, which means they were likely drowned out by the sound of pounding blood in his head and the primal scream of anguish and despair divi let's out whenever he sees Flip's face.

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 10, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

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