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Posted at 8:05 AM ET, 02/ 2/2011

Road trip ends with another loss

By Washington Post editors
Morning brew

The Wizards lost to the New Orleans Hornets last night, 97-89, their sixth loss in a row and 25th straight road loss this season. Michael Lee was stuck in icy Dallas and missed the game.

Earlier in his long travel day, Lee examined Yi Jianlian's season-high game against the Mavericks on Monday.

John Wall was named rookie of the month for the Eastern Conference and will play in the Rookie Challenge during All-Star Weekend.

Dan Steinberg reports that Wizards owner Ted Leonsis is hearing from critics and dealing with pixels of anger and despair (DC Sports Bog). Dan also says Post columnist Mike Wise won't shave his beard until the Wizards win on the road.

AROUND THE WEB
Truth About It's Rashad Mobley took the high road after the Wizards' 24th consecutive road loss this season.

Dave Del Grande offers more suggestions for spicing up the NBA All Star Game (CBSSports.com).

The Basketball Jones reports that this year, players will have the option of wearing skin-tight jersey tops during the All Star Game.

Howard Beck analyzes progress made by the New York Knicks (New York Times).

By Washington Post editors  | February 2, 2011; 8:05 AM ET
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Headline should read: "Jason Smith has Career Game in the first half while JaVale Mcgee rides the bench"

Indiana fired obrien because they said he criticized roy hibbert too much publically, and he dint let the young players play or develop enough. and the new intrim coach will let hibbert play thru his mistakes.

i think the same could be said about flip and mcgee. mcgee is more valuable to us than flip. not talking about this game specifically, but in general. he gets

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 2, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Was he still suffering from the flu? i loved the 3 guard lineup in the second half, and Rashard's 4 pts, and John Wall's inability to connect on fgas or get to the line. This team came out semi flat and really never seized the opportunity to get their first roadie against a "depleted" hornets team. I wish we coulda found a way to take advantage of Okafor being out, but NO countered with another 7 footer who had easy sledding against our pourous interior defense. Everybody had their way though, Ariza,Paul, and Thornton got loose in the paint, and Smith became the newest random opponent to have a career night against the Wiz.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Headline should read: "Jason Smith has Career Game in the first half while JaVale Mcgee rides the bench"

Yeah, Flip's rotations were mysterious even by his standards last night. Maybe Javale was still feeling effects of the flu? I dont know, but my unofficial count was Jason Smith scored 4pts with Mcgee on the floor vs destroying us with Blatche, Yi, Booker at C.

Speaking of Book, why the quick hook? He gets the start then barely plays? Blatche was god-awful again...why not a little more of the Booker-Mcgee frontcourt?

Terrible outing for Wall, but I dont see why if you are going to put him and Javale back in the game you wait til 3mins left in the 4thQ

4th game in 5 nights on the road, maybe fatigue factored into rotations...

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 9:13 AM | Report abuse

i dono if he was still recovering from the flu. that maybe tru, or maybe just and excuse for flip to play him less. his lineups are way to small and soft. like the 3 gaurd lineup with soft 7 footers like blatche, yi, and lewis. yi had a good game vs dallas, but besides that hes not much of anything. hes just a 7 ft jump shooter with no inside presence

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 2, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

McGee is a novelty worthy of a halftime act. He hasn't demonstrated any improvement in low post scoring. He can't defend one on one. He can't guard the pick and roll. He can't inbounds the ball. He can't pass once he receives the ball. He can't box out on free throws or on any other occasion. McGee shouldn't be allowed to play through his mistakes until he can make basic basketball plays.

If the Wizards believe that he's the answer at C, as was written by Chad Ford in his draft projection, then the they are destined to remain a crappy team.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 2, 2011 9:23 AM | Report abuse

The definition of insanity is to continue to do things the same way, and expect different results. Flip Saunders is not a very imaginative coach. This is not a veteran squad. The only way we pick up a road win is to go with the hot hand. Unless JaVale was still ailing from the flu, why didn't he get max minutes? Jason Smith???? owned the paint for the Hornets.

Did anyone notice that Young and McGee accounted for 51 points and the rest of our starters contributed 12 points? Yet our wise management neglects to resign Mustafa Shakur, who just happened to be a player with athleticism AND scoring potential. I read where the Wizards are planning to pick Shakur up later this week. Starting to sound a lot like the Alonzo Gee/ San Antonio Spurs fiasco from last season.

Posted by: musicmanjr | February 2, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

john wall straight up got schooled by chris paul.

Posted by: jefferu | February 2, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

divi, Blatche is god awful. It's painfully obvious, so why on earth does Flip keep feeding him minutes? It's dumbfounding. Thing is Blatche probably thinks he played a decent game b/c he put up 20 and 10 - it's someone else's fault.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 2, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The definition of insanity is to continue to do things the same way, and expect different results. Flip Saunders is not a very imaginative coach. This is not a veteran squad. The only way we pick up a road win is to go with the hot hand. Unless JaVale was still ailing from the flu, why didn't he get max minutes? Jason Smith???? owned the paint for the Hornets.

Did anyone notice that Young and McGee accounted for 51 points and the rest of our starters contributed 12 points? Yet our wise management neglects to resign Mustafa Shakur, who just happened to be a player with athleticism AND scoring potential. I read where the Wizards are planning to pick Shakur up later this week. Starting to sound a lot like the Alonzo Gee/ San Antonio Spurs fiasco from last season.

Posted by: musicmanjr | February 2, 2011 9:26 AM

Correction: Young and BLATCHE accounted for 51 points!

Posted by: musicmanjr | February 2, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

McGee is a novelty worthy of a halftime act

He's easily the best defensive big on this team and the only one who does anything to protect the paint. It's not coincedence that Memphis goes for 68pts in the paint when he is out, or that Jason Smith terrorizes AB/Yi/TB but is quiet with Javale in the game.

Of course, being the best defensive big on this team aint saying much, but he should be getting the PT. And I suspect he will, last night was probably still a bit sick or whatever

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"Did anyone notice that Young and McGee accounted for 51 points and the rest of our starters contributed 12 points? Posted by: musicmanjr"

You mean Young and Blatche, dontcha? Javale had 9.

About Shakur: we'll see if they re-sign him later this week, as they said. DCMAN predicted he'd be gone, so if they do sign him again, that prediction's down the tube.

The hubbub about Alonzo Gee is confusing. San Antonio 'stole' him from us, then sent him on down to the D's. He was great there again -- player of the year -- but the Spurs cut him in November. Washington signed him and he didn't last here, either. So other than feeling aggrieved, what was the negative impact of losing him to San Antonio last season? Far as I can see, nada.

It's that way with a lot of D-League players.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 2, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

yea but ok some might be tru, but why not let a young player with potential try to play thru it? who else is a better optoion on the team?? then y let blatche play thru mistakes?
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McGee is a novelty worthy of a halftime act. He hasn't demonstrated any improvement in low post scoring. He can't defend one on one. He can't guard the pick and roll. He can't inbounds the ball. He can't pass once he receives the ball. He can't box out on free throws or on any other occasion. McGee shouldn't be allowed to play through his mistakes until he can make basic basketball plays.

If the Wizards believe that he's the answer at C, as was written by Chad Ford in his draft projection, then the they are destined to remain a crappy team.

Posted by: ZardsFan1 | February 2, 2011 9:23 AM

Posted by: skinsfan09 | February 2, 2011 9:46 AM | Report abuse

They didnt re-sign Shakur because he's hurt and you can only sign a guy to two 10day contracts before you to guarantee him the rest of the season. So I suppose they want to get a full slate of games out of him on his next 10day deal before making that decision.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I was noting that things don't get a lot easier now: Orlando, Atlanta, and Milwaukee. I guess it's an extra row on the gauntlet. We've got a tired team.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 2, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

BTW, Alonzo's with the Cavs now.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 2, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Like 5 games ago Ive noticed that Dray's body look different. Like he's slimmed down and doesnt have that added fat he had all season. He has no muscles and all that but atleast he's got the weight off which makes him a bit quicker so now its just all about energy & effort with him. He hasnt played with much of that on a consistent basis lately but I wouldnt be shocked at all to see him continue from tonight and finish the year off strong again which will give some hope for next year.

I liked how both him & NY drove & went inside more. I hope Dray gets that its ok to do that and that his shooting percentage will go way up while I hope NY realizes that his J will be easier to get if he mixes it up with drives more. I like the fact that we are letting NY handle the ball more on drives instead of just letting Wall do everything while others finish.

I also still see that when Lewis sets a pick he stays there and Wall easily gets in the lane but it doesnt happen with nearly anyone else, except maybe Booker. Thats all Flip's fault. He's hindering our easiest play. I still will also love to see more of NY in the post, espically against smaller guys. Probably time to start McGee with Dray again and see how we finish out the year. I like the way that we are still competeing on the road for the most part even if we do still come up with the L

Posted by: dlts2041 | February 2, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

"john wall straight up got schooled by chris paul."

Playing against DWilliams, Westbrook, JKidd, Rondo, Nelson, Parker, etc...should be getting his PHD anytime soon. Even average PGs are looking like All Stars when playing the Wizards.

Posted by: Dave381 | February 2, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

The Wiz are certainly a perplexing bunch.
What is it, 13 and 10 at home? 0-25 on the road.

If Blatche, Yi, Flip and Ernie are to blame for the road woes, who gets the credit for the home record?

I'll say this, Hinrich and Lewis account for about $30 million in salary. Neither is providing leadership or production on the road...

Posted by: bozomoeman | February 2, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

At the core of my frustration is I simply do not believe the wizards are 0-25 on the road bad. I just don't. Even Cleveland has won a game on the road against the nets in November. I hear "rebuild" and "development" but where is it? Booker starts because of injury and illness and has a career night and then last night he plays 10 minutes? I admit I am a Seraphin fan and expect a steep learning curve but what does he learn on the bench? From what I have seen I think the wizards play better with Seraphin on the floor knowing they have a big man protecting the paint. Where is the imagination and creativity of an open minded coach? Seraphin, McGee and Booker on the floor at the same time? I think it's great Ted is so available and responsive regarding email but what about the product on the floor? I get it's a rebuilding project but where are the building blocks and who is the architect?
I wonder if revenue were down 30% would Ted be so patient. Go Bullets!

Posted by: spoooooooon | February 2, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

speaking of cleveland thats our next road game. They have like a 21 game losing streak so somethings gotta give. However, even they won road games which included the wizards at home.

Posted by: jefferu | February 2, 2011 10:45 AM | Report abuse

does Lebron win MVP for a 3rd straight year based on Cleveland's ineptitude alone? To quote Kanye West "No one man should have all that power." It's embarrassing what the Cavs have been reduced to without Lebron.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Ok so we are playing a back to back and 4th game in 5 nights, against a VERY good NO team that is 31-18 in the West.

McGee played 18 minutes which is 5 minutes more than he did vs. Dallas. Obviously, because he is just getting back from the Flu.

If you look at it the game was a toss up. Very close game. In fact, we out rebounded them by 6. They just simply shot a slightly better percentage than we did.

Saying this to say I think Flip did a great job last night. With or without Okafur they are much more talented than we are at every position.

So bash Flip again, but you probably should read a box score before doing so. He has a roster full of soft, young, hybrid players, with low basketball IQ's..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I thought this was a poorly coached game from start to finish.

The last time these two teams met Blatche defended West, well. Flip should of gone back to that starting unit. And then if Blatche played like garbage or Lewis was invisible(both happened), Booker could of been subbed in.

I missed most of the beginning of the 2nd Q, but it looked like Yi was being used as a PF after he's been playing well at C. I don't understand how that.

And allowing Blatche to pad his stats in the 4th... Man, was I hating me some Wizards last night. Coaches and GM included.

Posted by: djnnnou | February 2, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

but reading the box score i would also think Dray balled out. BTW i dunno how you deduce that Flip did a good job from the box score , I don't see his name anywhere in it. It's a very winnable game if we get anything from rashard Lewis and JWow. 51 from NY and Dray 12 from the other starters, we held them under 100 tho, S/o to defense.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

ESPN should run the Wiz/Cavs game and promote it as "The Battle of the Basement." It could easily have more drama as the Lakers/Celtics or Magic/Heat, because both of these teams will care more about the game and be more desperate for a win than any of those others.

I'm thinking the pressure in that one falls squarely on the Wiz. If the Cavs lose, it's just another demoralizing humiliation in a season defined by them. Another log on the fire. But if the Wiz lose that game then, realistically, they may also lose what little hope they may still have in their hearts that they'll win at least one road game this season. I mean, it'd be hard to imagine them walking out of Quicken Loans Arena with an "L" thinking "no big deal, we'll get the next one."

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 2, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I kinda wanna hear some reports of Javale still being ill. It was crazy how his mins were limited while NO lived in the lane. Mike Lee anything about Javale's health?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"The hubbub about Alonzo Gee is confusing. "

Posted by: Samson151 | February 2, 2011 9:43 AM

Not really. It's actually a perfect part of a simple formula:

Grunfeld and Saunders suck therefore:

(A) Any players they like/give significant PT to suck
(B) Any players they don't start/don't play 40 mpg are future HoFers being held back from obvious greatness
(B) Any players they criticize are being unfairly singled out/hated on
(D) Any players they didn't draft/sign/trade for that have even the most modest (or utterly imaginary) success somewhere else are clear signs of their incompetence and grounds for immediate firing/summary execution.

Really, what's so perplexing?

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 2, 2011 11:46 AM | Report abuse

but reading the box score i would also think Dray balled out. BTW i dunno how you deduce that Flip did a good job from the box score , I don't see his name anywhere in it. It's a very winnable game if we get anything from rashard Lewis and JWow. 51 from NY and Dray 12 from the other starters, we held them under 100 tho, S/o to defense.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, what the box score doesn't show is Blatche's lackadasical defensive effort. But it does show his 4 turnovers and yeah you don't see Flips name anywhere in the box, but just yesterday you were questioning Flips coaching ability correct?

As if his play calling is the reason this team sucks. And I keep trying to get you to understand that this team sucks because it has PLAYERS named Blatche,etc.. on the roster. Put the blame where it belongs..Yeah Flip shares in it but way more of the blame goes on the veterans of this team like Blatche and NY..

We are rebuilding, but I'm just sick of the Flip can't coach nonsense. Because that's what it is nonsense..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Oops. Change that second (B) to a (C). (Cut and paste error.)

Posted by: kalo_rama | February 2, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Flip is a good coach but at the end of this season they should give him his walking papers. Sometimes the roster isn't the only thing that needs to be revamped. All the blame for the Wizards struggles doesn't rest on Flip. The team just isn't that good. That said, sometimes you just need a fresh start.

Posted by: dc202jp | February 2, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Los Angeles Lakers interested in Kirk Hinrich
Phil Jackson likes the player who is performing with Wizards
The Lakers and Jackson have always coveted guard Kirk Hinrich, who is averaging 10.9 points and 4.5 assists for the Washington Wizards. Hinrich, 30, makes $9 million this season and $8 million next season.


I say ship his a$$

Posted by: suliman215 | February 2, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what the box score doesn't show is Blatche's lackadasical defensive effort. But it does show his 4 turnovers and yeah you don't see Flips name anywhere in the box, but just yesterday you were questioning Flips coaching ability correct?

As if his play calling is the reason this team sucks. And I keep trying to get you to understand that this team sucks because it has PLAYERS named Blatche,etc.. on the roster. Put the blame where it belongs..Yeah Flip shares in it but way more of the blame goes on the veterans of this team like Blatche and NY..

We are rebuilding, but I'm just sick of the Flip can't coach nonsense. Because that's what it is nonsense..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't think i was questioning his coaching ABILITY. As much as agreeing with one of his players about certain coaching moves. It's nonsense to argue whether Flip has the ability to coach at an NBA level. Winning may be a different story, but i think you and I argued about the importance of a good offense (which i think is pretty important) vs having a good defense( i never actually said our defense didn't need improvement).
More so i dunno if Flip was validated (as if MY comments put his performance this year in question) by playing McGee 18 mins and letting Wall rot on the bench in favor of KH in the 4th, but we got #25 last night and the coach and players get to bask in that glory together.

PS. How does NY deserve any more blame than the rest of the starters?He's the team's leading scorer, arguably their best perimeter defender, and one of the only bright spots this season.

You'd think folks that run their mouths about Flip Saunders and his coaching acumen would pipe down until Mr. 50 Win Seasons gets a road win. I can see some players bustin their tails tryin to get of the schnied. NY is one of them AB not so much, but the constant ripping of NY reeks of Haterade. NY was a mid round draft pick, pretty much picked to add depth, for that purpose he's finally coming around. We're still waiting on the 50 win coach who's gonna take this team where Eddie Jordan couldn't.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Flip shares in it but way more of the blame goes on the veterans of this team like Blatche and NY

Vets? How about Kirk and Rashard, to the tune of $32mill (or whatever)? Wasnt KH brought in for vet leadership? Didnt Flip just name Rashard team capt last week? You wanna talk about vet leadership, point at the players Flip has told us are the vet leaders.

And Flip was horrible last night, he put in about as much effort coaching as Blatche did defending.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

And Flip was horrible last night, he put in about as much effort coaching as Blatche did defending.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Lol good one.

Posted by: dc202jp | February 2, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

MY MAN *In The Frank Lucas American Gangster voice*

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

He's the team's leading scorer, arguably their best perimeter defender, and one of the only bright spots this season.

Nick was the team's best offensive and defensive player last night.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

NY is one of them AB not so much, but the constant ripping of NY reeks of Haterade. NY was a mid round draft pick, pretty much picked to add depth, for that purpose he's finally coming around.
Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 12:10 PM

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Yeah kevenjones seems to hate Nick Young regardless of Nick's undeniable progress this year.

Posted by: dc202jp | February 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeah kevenjones seems to hate Nick Young regardless of Nick's undeniable progress this year.

Posted by: dc202jp | February 2, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse

.......and love Flip despite his undeniable inability to get a handle on turning this team around. How does Flip get away with telling folks he ".......didn't sign up for this." I immediately have to question his commitment to the task at hand. He's so busy feeling sorry for himself and being in this situation versus "coaching" a veteran laden all star team that it's sickening. The same folks that call Lebron a punk for going to a team with other stars, apologize for Flip because he doesn't have enough talent around him. before John Wall was drafted, Flip was supposed to be the difference maker. When will Flip arrive?i guess around the same time a HOF pf shows up with a fully matured post game in tow.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate Nick at all. I like Nick. But to say Nick is the best perimeter defender..I doubt it. Kirk is a much better defender than Nick.

I just got pissed at Nick for opening his mouth in the midst of all this. That was flat out dumb and uncalled for. Not what this team needs right now.

And last night Nick had one steal, Kirk had 3, and Nick was -5 Kirk was -1.

Nick ain't never been the best defender on this team. The best scorer, yes,defender HELL NO

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

But First Eddie Jordan was the problem, now it's Flip..

Wrong again. It's the player's that's the problem.

To the organizations credit they are getting rid of the problems...But too much emphasis is put on Flip. NO COACH would win much with this bunch.

Rashard is only here to clear space, so cut the jokes with the Rashard Lewis crap. He will be out of here after next season and is in no way apart of the future here.

Kirk, I hope they don't trade.But you don't see the Laker's asking about Nick do you?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Don't hate Nick at all. I like Nick. But to say Nick is the best perimeter defender..I doubt it. Kirk is a much better defender than Nick.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

As evidenced by the litany of pgs and sgs that torch him nightly? maybe the impressive steal and block #s he puts up night in and night out (since the box score is the end all be al of player performance). We all may have thought that Kirk was a better on the ball defender than NY coming in, but with a weaker defensive scheme than what skiles was running while kirk was in CHI, he's not getting bailed out by the likes of Noah,Tyrus Thomas and the collapsing Chi D. Instead when his guy beats him off the dribble, he scores because our rotations are slow. Add to that the fact that this group hasn't even had a training camp together (trades,injuries) it's no surprise Kirk doesn't look like the same defensive stalwart he was in CHI. He's still a good defender, but i think the team he played with and the coach he played for had a lot to do with the reputation Kirk has for being a lockdown defender.He IS not that player here in Washington.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

If steals are the basis of good defense, I guess we never realized how great a defender Gil was.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Rashard is only here to clear space, so cut the jokes with the Rashard Lewis crap. He will be out of here after next season and is in no way apart of the future here.


So Flip is joking when he calls Rashard a leader and names him capt? When he says the main thing Lewis brings is leadership? The coach says that, but other players should be held accountable for the lack of leadership because...

Kirk, I hope they don't trade.But you don't see the Laker's asking about Nick do you?

Are the Lakers asking about Kirk? Trade him if they are, he's no more a part of the future than Rashard and a healthy Shakur can fill the same role on a club this bad. It's not like any player on the team is the difference between winning and losing.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

To the organizations credit they are getting rid of the problems...But too much emphasis is put on Flip. NO COACH would win much with this bunch.

Rashard is only here to clear space, so cut the jokes with the Rashard Lewis crap. He will be out of here after next season and is in no way apart of the future here.

Kirk, I hope they don't trade.But you don't see the Laker's asking about Nick do you?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Nick's in a contract year, i'd luv to hear his agents demands if he's the missing piece to lakers 3peat.

No one said Flip is THE problem; as if there aren't many things that need to be fixed. More so we're saying just that there are several things that need to be fixed. people have identified things that they feel Flip doesn't do well,just as folks have identified things players don't do well. The difference is most players time on the court is performance based. if they are performing up to the coach's standard they will play. Conversely, the coach may of may not be achieving the owner's goals up to this point, but he can't be benched,suspended or cut. There is no incentive or consequences for Flip to alter his approach if he feels like he's doing what it takes to coach this team to victories, especially when the owner and GM come out and say there won't be a coaching move.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"NO COACH would win much with this bunch"...you do not know that and neither do I so, so, so...

Posted by: spoooooooon | February 2, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10,

Every player in the league get's beat off the dribble. And exactly we don't have the interior defense to make up for it.

But to say Nick is a better defender than Kirk..That's a joke..

Kirk plays with more effort than Nick does on the defensive end EVERY night. Wether he get's beat or not.

You think the Laker's are asking about him because of his Offense?? please

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

but it looked like Yi was being used as a PF after he's been playing well at C.

6'7" Booker trying to back his man down in the paint while 7'2" Yi delivers the entry pass from top of the key...great stuff

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

So Flip is joking when he calls Rashard a leader and names him capt? When he says the main thing Lewis brings is leadership? The coach says that, but other players should be held accountable for the lack of leadership because...

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse


Ok, the Captains on this team are JW and KH.

Divi, Rashard was named Captain only because KH was hurt. May have been only for a game or two. Soon as he came back he was named Captain again..

OOOOKKK

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"NO COACH would win much with this bunch"...you do not know that and neither do I so, so, so...

Posted by: spoooooooon | February 2, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse


So tell me what coach would win with this bunch..this should be intersting..


@lilhollywood10,

Nick wouldn't play 15 minutes in LA cuz..So don't worry, because he ain't what would help the Laker's 3 peat..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10,

Every player in the league get's beat off the dribble. And exactly we don't have the interior defense to make up for it.

But to say Nick is a better defender than Kirk..That's a joke..

Kirk plays with more effort than Nick does on the defensive end EVERY night. Wether he get's beat or not.

You think the Laker's are asking about him because of his Offense?? please

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I think if the lakers are asking bout him it has something to do with their disappointment in Shannon Brown and Derek Fisher. When Farmar left they thought that Blake and Brown could fill the void for a backup 1-2, unfortunately Stevie B has been kinda uneven and Brown has taken a step back. But yeah, I'm sure that the Lakers want him because of hie work against the likes of Westbrook,Paul,Deron Williams and the other top flight pgs out west.

The effort idea is very subjective, but i can see how you would think Kirk is working harder, being that he's usually chasing his man trying to catch up to him after he's been beaten, where as NY usually keeps his man in front of him . Yes every player gets beat sometime or another, but have you seen NY's man scoring as much as we've seen opposing guards beat Kirk. Isn't that a bigger factor in being a good defender than just citing "effort". Effort is good but there has to be an end result to your efforts. if stopping your man from scoring is the goal, i'd say Kirk isn't necessarily better than NY. Maybe he used to be, but not now, not on THIS team.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

"NO COACH would win much with this bunch"
I do not think Jerry Sloan, Phil jackson or Scott Skiles would put up with the attitude and behavior of Blatche. He would be on the bench and Booker, Seraphin and Cartier would be asked to do the job. In addition, I think they would work with what they got by playing what they got till they had an idea of what would give the team the best chance of winning.

The problem I have with the "coach" is how he continues to play Blatche despite the attitude, behavior and performance on the court. What kind of message does that send to the rest of the team? I do not think he plays the players who will give the team the best shot of winning.

Posted by: spoooooooon | February 2, 2011 1:38 PM | Report abuse

could it be the Lakers arent inquiring about Nick because they have a decent player at SG already? Guy named Kobe something or other? Nah, must be because Kirk's defense is so great.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Nick wouldn't play 15 minutes in LA cuz..So don't worry, because he ain't what would help the Laker's 3 peat..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

u brought up that scenario b/c you think the Lakers want Kirk. Honestly i couldn't care less who the Lakers wanna trade for. I'm much more concerned about out leading socrer's and Kirk's contributions to the wizards.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10,

Ahh, nobody stops Westbrook,Paul,Deron Williams and the other top flight pgs..

Your saying Kirk does worse against them than any other PG does? WTF..Seriously

To argue that Nick Young is a better defender than Kirk is just flat out crazy. If that were the case Nick would easily be an All-Star or have All-Star consideration, considering his scoring albilities..

Nick is playing better defense, but he has never been accused of being even a decent defender. Again, were that the case, teams would be asking for him and we damn sure would already have him locked up..

BTW you mentioned Westbrook...Kirk was out that game with a strained elbow,so he hasn't played against him as a Wiz..

But I get it, just throw lot's of sh** against the wall and hope some of it sticks...

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

@spoooooooon,

Now I 100% agree with your last point.. Can't argue with that one bit..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:59 PM | Report abuse

@divi,

Didn't say Kirk was a GREAT DEFENDER, just said he is a defense first player and a BETTER DEFENDER than Nick Young.

How did you interpret that what I said to mean Kirk was a GREAT DEFENDER. We are discussing Kirk vs Nick defensively..

Point is the Laker's are not asking about Kirk for his scoring abilities..It's everything else he brings, including his defense.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Right and I do agree Flip is not a disciplinarian..But to say his play calling is the issue is ludicrous..

Again, I never thought Flip was right for this bunch. But he is here now so let's get the players that fit the mold instead of keep changing coaches..

Because like you said, most coaches would want Blatche gone in a heartbeat..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

To argue that Nick Young is a better defender than Kirk is just flat out crazy

I havent seen Kirk effectively matched up against Kobe, Wade, Joe Johsnon, and even Lebron (on some plays) this season- have you? I'm not going to say Nick is clearly a better defender Kirk...I'm saying he's been at least equal this season. Both guys do some stuff better than the other.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Point is the Laker's are not asking about Kirk for his scoring abilities..It's everything else he brings, including his defense.

First off, all I have seen is they wanted him in the past- not that they are making inquiries now. Maybe they are, do you have a link?

Second, if they are, it's as a PG not a SG. So there really isnt a comparison as to why they want one guy over the other.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

If that were the case Nick would easily be an All-Star or have All-Star consideration, considering his scoring albilities..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I guess him playing on a abysmal team that hasn't had a road win and the fact that he wasn't even starting until the trade don't factor into his absence, huh. or the fact that most fans have never heard of NY til he got the starting nod and starting getting clips on Sportscenter and articles in out of town papers.

The comments about WC pgs was more about forecasting based on past performances. You're right nobody contains those guys, so why would the Lakers think a guy that has proven he can't stay with these WC guards is the answer for them, if it's not his ability to defend the guards they will see in the playoffs then it must be his continually dropping career scoring avg.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

When it comes to trades, the options are few for Lakers

The Lakers and Jackson have always coveted guard Kirk Hinrich, who is averaging 10.9 points and 4.5 assists for the Washington Wizards. Hinrich, 30, makes $9 million this season and $8 million next season.

The Lakers have a $5-million trade exception thanks to the Vujacic deal, which saved them about $8 million in salary and luxury taxes, but they would use the potentially helpful exception only if they found a willing partner in a deal that made sense.

The Lakers have nothing to offer the Wizards. It would need to be a 3 team deal.

Posted by: djnnnou | February 2, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Again, were that the case, teams would be asking for him and we damn sure would already have him locked up..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

We don't know who's asking for what, first of all. You also don't know how much ownership of management value NY as a future building block.
You build up a strawman about why you think teams would or wouldn't want to trade for NY, go play with that for a while. If they report it, we'll talk about it.
I dunno why they would lock him up going into a percieved lockout off season. I mean if Ted is really about fiscal responsibility, why guarantee the contract of a 9previously disappointing)player before the new CBA (if his name's not Carmello Anthony)? he's a restricted FA,right? he can't leave unless we let him.No rush to "Lock him up"

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Right and I do agree Flip is not a disciplinarian..But to say his play calling is the issue is ludicrous..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Nick didn't say it was THE issue. Just AN issue he had, and for the record he tried to clean it up and make it known that his comments weren't directed at Saunders. The coach can ask for consistency from players, but players can't want consistency in the system? i mean the game in question was the first game in the past 4 or 5 game stretch where the wiz didn't hit 100. NY saw a difference in the memphis game that he though needed to be fixed for the overall success of the team. Some call that leadership .

PS. Check the Threads, Mike Lee makes it a point to make sure that we all knew that NY clarified his comments, and was not directing them at Flip.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

havent seen Kirk effectively matched up against Kobe, Wade, Joe Johsnon, and even Lebron (on some plays) this season- have you? I'm not going to say Nick is clearly a better defender Kirk...I'm saying he's been at least equal this season. Both guys do some stuff better than the other.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse


Why would Kirk be guarding Kobe, Wade , Lebron, Or Joe Johnson.. Kirk is a PG all those are 2's or 3's...wow

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Why would Kirk be guarding Kobe, Wade , Lebron, Or Joe Johnson.. Kirk is a PG all those are 2's or 3's...wow

So you dont realize that Kirk has been playing SG and even SF all season? You havent noticed Wall, Kirk, and Nick all in the game at the same time? Like to start the 3rdQ last night? Maybe you are watching games on a different planet as you said.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

We don't know who's asking for what, first of all. You also don't know how much ownership of management value NY as a future building block.
You build up a strawman about why you think teams would or wouldn't want to trade for NY, go play with that for a while. If they report it, we'll talk about it.
I dunno why they would lock him up going into a percieved lockout off season. I mean if Ted is really about fiscal responsibility, why guarantee the contract of a 9previously disappointing)player before the new CBA (if his name's not Carmello Anthony)? he's a restricted FA,right? he can't leave unless we let him.No rush to "Lock him up"

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 2:32 PM | Report abuse

HUH, Didn't they just f up and extend Blatche?

Again, I'm for keeping Nick. Not ready to pull the plug just yet. But if they thought that much of him he would already have an offer from the team..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I guess him playing on a abysmal team that hasn't had a road win and the fact that he wasn't even starting until the trade don't factor into his absence, huh. or the fact that most fans have never heard of NY til he got the starting nod and starting getting clips on Sportscenter and articles in out of town papers.

The comments about WC pgs was more about forecasting based on past performances. You're right nobody contains those guys, so why would the Lakers think a guy that has proven he can't stay with these WC guards is the answer for them, if it's not his ability to defend the guards they will see in the playoffs then it must be his continually dropping career scoring avg.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Ahh the Clipper's are only 6 game better than the Wiz..You ever heard of Blake Griffin? You don't think he will be considered for the All-Star team? The Clippers are abysmal..

Who's fault is it that most people don't know who Nick Young is??

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:11 PM | Report abuse

So you dont realize that Kirk has been playing SG and even SF all season? You havent noticed Wall, Kirk, and Nick all in the game at the same time? Like to start the 3rdQ last night? Maybe you are watching games on a different planet as you said.

Posted by: divi3 | February 2, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

You said the Lakers,Atlanta,Miami,etc. and in those games he was either the 1 or the 2..Of course when they go small but I was responding to your comment of Kirk guarding WADE,LEBRON,KOBE,JOE

None of which will ever be his primary matchup. Kirk is 6-4..Lebron is 6-8,Kobe is 6-6, Joe 6-7 and nobody stop's any of them anyway..Only Wade in the whole group is an accurate comparison..

So when you see Coach go small it is for an advantage on the offensive end not defense..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:19 PM | Report abuse

BTW,

Wall & McGee are getting All-Star consideration..Wall has 261,000 votes and McGee 107,000..

NO mention of Blatche or the red hot Nick Young..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I imagine one reason there's more criticism of Nick lately is that he's more exposed. Increased minutes, not coming off the bench, asked to carry a chunk of the scoring, etc. Far as I can tell he's neither a lot better or worse than he was earlier in the season, we're just seeing more of him against a wider variety of opponents.

And Kirk probably looks better to some because he's not being asked to do as much.

One thing we should all have learned is that nobody is about to change his mind at this point in the season. So debate if you want, but don't expect a resolution.

Posted by: Samson151 | February 2, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

This is from a year ago but I doubt Nick has surpassed Kirk that quickly..

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1001560

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

My only point in all this is I can't see how anyone can compare KH and NY defensively.. That's it and that's all..

Find me one article within the last 5 years saying anything about NY being the top ______(fill in the blank) defensively and I will rest my case..

You can't because that has NEVER been a focus for him..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

And once again last night was a DEFENSIVE loss:

Look at and tell me who had a better defensive game between NY and Kirk:

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2011/02/charting-washington-wizards-defense-after-road-loss-25-new-orleans-hornets.html

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

HUH, Didn't they just f up and extend Blatche?

Again, I'm for keeping Nick. Not ready to pull the plug just yet. But if they thought that much of him he would already have an offer from the team..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:07 PM | Report abuse

that was during the preseason, and since then they've taken a significant amount of grief about "Locking him down". Furthermore i dunno how the NBA's contract signing period works. Can the wizards extend NY during the season or do they have to wait until a determined "signing period " to do so? On the other hand, NY's market value is better today than it was to begin the season, it may be even better by the end of the year. I'm sure that's something his agent would have in mind when considering (once again) a completely hypothetical, potentially low-ball offer. The team still has egg on its face for the Dray debacle, why would they rush to extend another player who's produced for a half season on an abysmal team? That goes for anybody on the team not named John Wall. I don't think anybody's stood out enough to deserve a big money extension at this juncture in the season. You saying the Wiz not offering him is an indictment of NY is silly. it's like me saying that them offering AB is an indictment of the coaching staff, ownership and management. Are we opening that can of worms?

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Hell yeah them extending Blatche is an indictment on the coaching staff, GM, ownership and management. I don't know who's bright idea that was. Pretty sure that came from EG and couldn't possibly imagine Flip giving that move a vote of confidence.

They can extend their own player at anytime..They don't have to wait for anything..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse


My only point in all this is I can't see how anyone can compare KH and NY defensively.. That's it and that's all..

Find me one article within the last 5 years saying anything about NY being the top ______(fill in the blank) defensively and I will rest my case..

You can't because that has NEVER been a focus for him..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Straw Man, no one said he's at the top of any list (except maybe the list of Wizards playing Defense). No one's saying NY is the Top anything or the bets anything in the NBA. Just that he executes his defensive assignments as good as, if not better than Kirk Hinrich. I don't need to read an article about someone else's opinion of Kirk Hinrich playing defense. I can watch the games. Like you said he gives effort, but you also acknowledged that he gets beat by quicker guards.

You want me to go through articles from the past 5 years that can't prove a thing about right now. THIS YEAR NY seems very focused on the defensive end. In fact i don't know how he couldn't have focused on defense when that's all Flip's been saying since last season.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse


My only point in all this is I can't see how anyone can compare KH and NY defensively.. That's it and that's all..

Find me one article within the last 5 years saying anything about NY being the top ______(fill in the blank) defensively and I will rest my case..

You can't because that has NEVER been a focus for him..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Straw Man, no one said he's at the top of any list (except maybe the list of Wizards playing Defense). No one's saying NY is the Top anything or the bets anything in the NBA. Just that he executes his defensive assignments as good as, if not better than Kirk Hinrich. I don't need to read an article about someone else's opinion of Kirk Hinrich playing defense. I can watch the games. Like you said he gives effort, but you also acknowledged that he gets beat by quicker guards.

You want me to go through articles from the past 5 years that can't prove a thing about right now. THIS YEAR NY seems very focused on the defensive end. In fact i don't know how he couldn't have focused on defense when that's all Flip's been saying since last season.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

But the do have a qualifying offer to Nick so I guess if he doesn't sign it they will just wait and see what kind of contracts he is offered and then decide to match it or let him walk.

But if they thought he was that valuable they would just offer him an extension..

I hope we don't get rid of Nick. I like his game alot..Just would like to see him play equally has hard on defense..He is doing much better..

So we will see..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hell yeah them extending Blatche is an indictment on the coaching staff, GM, ownership and management. I don't know who's bright idea that was. Pretty sure that came from EG and couldn't possibly imagine Flip giving that move a vote of confidence.

They can extend their own player at anytime..They don't have to wait for anything..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse
so Flip wasn't with extending him? just starting him every game and playing him over 30 mins per since he was ready. I gotcha.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:25 PM | Report abuse

@lilhollywood10,

I agree. It is sad that Blatche is the best option at his position...That's why he needs to be traded. As long as he is apart of the foundation, we are screwed...

Just look at his body. He has done nothing you can visually see to improve his body so why would they extend him?? I just don't get it. He clearly is not in the weight room...

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:30 PM | Report abuse

And once again last night was a DEFENSIVE loss:

Look at and tell me who had a better defensive game between NY and Kirk:

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2011/02/charting-washington-wizards-defense-after-road-loss-25-new-orleans-hornets.html

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

sure it didn't have anything to do with JWow you can't shoot and Shards O'Glass From The Broken Backboard combining for 4 of16 for 8pts and 4 tos? I know defense can be an issue with this squad (as it has always been). But you gotta wonder if Shard hits his avg of 12ppg and Wall gets his 14 pts i dunno that we lose by 8 to a team with a guy hitting his career high.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse

You want me to go through articles from the past 5 years that can't prove a thing about right now. THIS YEAR NY seems very focused on the defensive end. In fact i don't know how he couldn't have focused on defense when that's all Flip's been saying since last season.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse


Ah no need to look. The articles don't exist..And they still don't exist.. But do take a look at this:

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2011/02/charting-washington-wizards-defense-after-road-loss-25-new-orleans-hornets.html

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

sure it didn't have anything to do with JWow you can't shoot and Shards O'Glass From The Broken Backboard combining for 4 of16 for 8pts and 4 tos? I know defense can be an issue with this squad (as it has always been). But you gotta wonder if Shard hits his avg of 12ppg and Wall gets his 14 pts i dunno that we lose by 8 to a team with a guy hitting his career high.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:32 PM | Report abuse


Dude obviously the team that scores the most points wins.. But also the team that allows the most points loses..

I guess you just can't see that 80% of all of their loses are due to defense and not offense..

Guess you just can't see it..but it's ok..keep watching, reading, and listening and it may just click..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:42 PM | Report abuse

LOL..

I mean how about you keep Jason Smith anywhere near his average and we win..No?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I read the article. Kyle always does a good job on Truthaboutit. I also noticed that
every point scored last night is attributed to a player. Points scored in transition, points scored from the FT line and even points scored when the individual player isn't playing defense on the man that scores. i'm sure the system is accurate, i just dunno about saying a guy got scored on when he's not checking the player with the ball. I mean the bullet point where the writer mentions NY talks about a slow rotation, or getting sucked in to deep by the offense. This is what they had to say about your boy.


Kirk Hinrich always tries hard, but often guys like Chris Paul, Marcus Thornton and even Jarrett Jack are going to hit tough shots on him. Like when Thornton crossed up Hinrich bad at the 7:12 mark of the second quarter … Andray Blatche tried to do the right thing by stepping in to draw the charge, but the subjective call from the referee just happened to go in favor of Thornton.


seems like Kirk was able to get his ankles broke and get a foul called on Dray. I think the chart credited Thornton with scoring on AB in that instance.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

LOL..

I mean how about you keep Jason Smith anywhere near his average and we win..No?

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I think that may have something to do with your boy Flip treating Javale as if he's a luxury. The past few games without javale opponents lived in the paint. it's no surprise that Smith goes off on Dray. We've know since last year AB doesn't play center well. Furthermore he doesn't LIKE to play center so you know he's really gonna half ass it.

BTW every loss is a defensive loss, if you allow the other team to score more than you. However, there are things you can do to compensate for a crappy defense.........like have really good offense. Last night the face of your franchise and your 20 mil a year player couldn't put up a "Single Double" combined you can talk all that d stuff you want. Poor defense is a component, but if you play poor defense you can't have 60% of your starting lineup MIA in the score book. Be fareal. This isn't a defenders league it's a scorer's league. They change rules almost yearly to benefit a fast paced high scoring game (hell even the spurs; the world most boringest team, avg 104 per game). The wiz avg 96 per game and haven't hit that number since OKC.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Last night the face of your franchise and your 20 mil a year player couldn't put up a "Single Double" combined

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yeah but Nick more than made up for that with his 30..

The story of last nights game was not Wall didn't score in double digits or had 4 Turnovers, or Rashard....

The story was Jason Smith had 20.

McGee is obviously still recovering from the flu. Why else would he not have started? Are you suggesting Flip is not paying McGee for some odd reason? what are you saying?

No every loss is not a defensive loss. But the majority of the Wizards games(See the word MAJORITY) are lost at the defensive end.

Again, just keep watching and it will eventually click..I guarantee you it will.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Be fareal. This isn't a defenders league it's a scorer's league..

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Well the teams that win championships start on the defensive end. Name one team that won the championship with the mindset you are speaking off..Just please name one..

That is why PHX, DAL, and all the other teams that outscore you consistently are not there at the end of the year..

Defense wins championships..

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The story was Jason Smith had 20.

Posted by: kevenjones | February 2, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but NO was still only 3 pts above their scoring average. If we expected them to perform at an a level the performed at an A+ level. Our team howeveravgs 96 ppg so if the hornets expected us to perform at an A level we performed at a b- level with our below avg 87 pts. Furthermore the hornets give up 91 ppg. We scored 4 pts below their allowed avg. So i guess their defense coulda been the difference, or possibly our starting PG,PF,and SF getting outscored by Jason Smith 20-12.

I'll say it all day. We can always defend better. Unless you are giving up 0 ppg you can always do something better defensively. It's not just that we aren't hitting OUR scoring avg of 96 ppg, we didn't even hit their opponents allowed avg of 91. You definitely gotta play good defense if your offense doesn't show up, but good offense can compensate for so so defense.

Posted by: lilhollywood10 | February 2, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

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