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Posted at 8:05 AM ET, 03/10/2011

Shorthanded Wizards get set for more intense practice

By Gene Wang
Morning brew

With a host of newcomers and a growing list of injuries, the Washington Wizards head into Day 2 of what Coach Flip Saunders called an in-season training camp that's expected to have the feel of an open tryout.

Unlike yesterday's lighter practice though, this morning's session is expected to be more rigorous as the coaching staff determines which players will start on Saturday as well as distribution of playing time among the reserves.

The Wizards again could be without a handful of regulars for their next game against the Los Angeles Clippers. On Tuesday night against Milwaukee, Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard and Cartier Martin were unavailable, and starting power forward Andray Blatche left the game early in the first quarter with a strained right shoulder.

So with a thinned roster, Saunders said he would consider all options, including using five rookies on the floor for a second straight game. Near the end of the first quarter against the Bucks, he turned to a lineup comprising John Wall, Jordan Crawford, Trevor Booker, Kevin Seraphin and Hamady N'diaye. It was the first time an NBA team had used an all-rookie lineup in more than a year.

"I think the guys are aware there's opportunities for anybody," Saunders said.

Crawford made the most of his on Tuesday, scoring a career- and team-high 22 points in his seventh game with the Wizards since arriving in a Feb. 23 trade from Atlanta. Also coming to Washington in the deal that sent guard Kirk Hinrich to the Hawks were Maurice Evans and Mike Bibby, whose subsequently reached an agreement on a contract buyout and was waived five days later.

Crawford was the New Jersey Nets' first-round pick and is starting to settle into the role of No. 2 shooting guard behind Nick Young, who was slowed against the Bucks with discomfort in his knee. Crawford's playing time has increased steadily over the past four games, culminating with 26 minutes 35 seconds on the court against the Bucks.

"We're coming down the stretch" in the season, Crawford said. "We just want to have a wining record as the season ends. Hopefully we can do that."

FROM THE POST
After Washington was demolished by the Bucks on Tuesday, Wizards Coach Flip Saunders conveyed a tough message to his team: It is time for evaluation and not reflection.

Andray Blatche has a right shoulder strain. An MRI on Wednesday morning revealed no structural damage and he is listed as day-to-day.

John Wall does the Dougie at the Howard-Hampton game and JaVale McGee brings showmanship to the best dressed contest (DC Sports Bog).

Timberwolves forward Kevin Love recorded his 52nd double-double in a row, surpassing Moses Malone for the longest streak since the ABA and NBA merged in 1976.

AROUND THE WEB
Mike Prada offers a list of alternatives to Flip Saunders for next season (Bullets Forever).

Rashad Mobley says the Wizards need a big man who can create a diversion and open up some lanes so that John Wall can more effectively do his thing (Truth About It).

Blake Griffin had an off night, but his Clippers beat the Celtics, and Sean Deveney notes that the rookie has done more than make spectacular dunks this season (sportingnews.com).

Greg Stoda argues that the struggling Heat could find relief against ... the Lakers? (CBSSports.com)

Michael Wilbon says it was foolish for Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf to predict at least four titles for his team (ESPN.com).

By Gene Wang  | March 10, 2011; 8:05 AM ET
Categories:  Morning brew  
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Comments

His defensive rebounding numbers are terrible. Your Center cant have the same per36 and rate as your PG. Keveen currently grabs 12% of the available def rebs when he's on the floor. As a comparison, DHoward grabs 30% and Mcgee gets 22%.

Posted by: divi3 | March 9, 2011 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I figured that's the stat you would pull.
Now we're comparing a guy you said was trash and didn't belong in the NBA at all to Dwight Howard and a 3rd year C...he's played what 38 games?

I don't like those Per/40 numbers because if that's the case it says that Yi is a better defensive rebounder than Booker. It also assumes what Seraphin will do for 31 minutes since he plays 9 minutes a game.

Since it's all we have to go on...how does Seraphin stack up to Dwight Howard and Kevin Love on the offensive boards?

I guess we can say none of them have ever been that good at that in their career too right?

Seraphin plays C/PF and his defensive numbers (according to that) need to improve but he's not too far below league average. His willingness to mix it up down low is encouraging and I think it will improve with more playing time.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Don't want this to get lost in the last entry...definitely wanna discuss this one.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Seraphin Sucks.

Posted by: member8 | March 10, 2011 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"A preseason atmosphere for the Wizards".. get used to it: BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A LOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME 'TILL WE ARE IN THE POSTSEASON.
Ted you are a Loser too, 'till you lose Grunfeld.

Posted by: member8 | March 10, 2011 9:15 AM | Report abuse

http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Fouls.jsp?season=22010&league=00&conf=OVERALL&qualified=N&position=0&splitType=9&yearsExp=0&splitDD=All+Teams&pager.offset=0
Seraphin is #2!!! in fouls committed for 48mpg of Rookies with more than 10 games under their belts.
Seraphin - ROY!
Yeah suckers.. he is learning... yeah sure. He will join Pecherof next season or two... another Grunfeld BUST!

Posted by: member8 | March 10, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

member8, I think Ted will give EG another year. If this happen, we might as well give Flip another year too because if you're going to change coach, have your new GM pick'em.

Posted by: demonj21 | March 10, 2011 9:47 AM | Report abuse

At-least we have officialy declared that we are tanking the rest of the season. It's a race to the bottom folks and it's tight. To-date, we pick no-worse than 5th.

Posted by: closg | March 10, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I expected a little better of a year than what we have now but i'm not greatly surprised. Since this coming draft is the last stage of the "youth movement" phase, i want to pick as high as possible in the draft. If we win less than 19 games then good for us. We'll get a top 3 pick and we'll have ATLs pick. Although the past years have been dreadful, i gotta say that the future looks bright with all the young talent we have as the core (Wall,McGee,Booker,Crawford). We wont be a lottery pick next year and we will DEFINITELY be in the playoffs the following year.

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | March 10, 2011 10:02 AM | Report abuse

If Ted really isn't considering getting a new GM and coach, then probably the wrong rebuild platform was selected which is bad news.

It is obvious to me that Flip has to go, but how are you going to release Flip and keep Ernie.

It doesn't appear in my gut that either Ernie or Flip is on the way out.

If that is really the case and I hope not, then they the Wizards, would have been better off to go with the Gilbert/Wall rebuild platform.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

If that is really the case and I hope not, then they the Wizards, would have been better off to go with the Gilbert/Wall rebuild platform.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2011 10:23 AM
What? How?

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | March 10, 2011 10:30 AM | Report abuse

What? How?

Posted by: Wizbullets88 | March 10, 2011 10:30 AM

It's undeniably obvious in this respect. To build this thing from the ground up with young talent and the right mix of vets you should IMO hire a new GM and a coach that has a sense of growing young talent to a winning Team.

Ernie and Flip does not appear to fit well with this plan.

On the other hand, Ernie and Flip seems to be more suitable for a more experienced Team, one that can fasttrack the rebuild process. Wall and Arenas together could fasttrack the rebuild process, but it appeared that Flip didn't know how to handle that either, or was it because he knew that really wasn't the plan.

If we intend on staying with Ernie and Flip, then we should have kept Gilbert with Wall. To have done what they are doing now and also keep Ernie and Flip is like spending our wheels.

We continue to build with this draft and then at next year's end we still see that Ernie and Flip isn't the right choices then we start over again with a new GM and Coach.

Spending Wheels. If we really are starting from rock bottom then Ernie and Flip should have been out of here.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

To have done what they are doing now and also keep Ernie and Flip is like spending our wheels.

We continue to build with this draft and then at next year's end we still see that Ernie and Flip isn't the right choices then we start over again with a new GM and Coach.

Spending Wheels. If we really are starting from rock bottom then Ernie and Flip should have been out of here.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | March 10, 2011 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm completely against spending wheels. How much is a good wheel worth these days anyway?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Sarcasm aside...you say Flip and EG are good for fastracking the rebuilding process (no clue how Gil fast tracks anything anymore) and that Gil/Wall would be a fast track thing to do...but since we're building from the ground up...according to you...wouldn't that mean get rid of Gil?

I think. I honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about 85% of the time.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"I think. I honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about 85% of the time."

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 11:08 AM

That still puts you at least 10% ahead of everyone else. What's your secret?

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

That still puts you at least 10% ahead of everyone else. What's your secret?

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2011 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Drugs. The really good kind...and lots of them.

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Jared Sullinger cannot create his own shots when facing an equal or stronger player inside. What more his jumping ability aren't that great. I Don't think he will do well in the pro. Same said for Kanster. I am all for drafting a big man but let's not get one for the sake of getting one. What do you guys think of Derrick Williams and Barnes Harrison? Other than these players, we should trade down or for a player like D.Cousins.

With Alanta pick either, Trey Tompkin, Trisan Tompson, or Jordan would be good selection. Or draft a shooter so Wall can have a player to kick it out to everytime he drive in the lanes.

I like the idea of getting M.Gasol. But will he want to come play for us at a reasonable price? I see him going to the Knicks.

Posted by: demonj21 | March 10, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Wait...are these drugs really working or did a thread get deleted?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"Seraphin is #2!!! in fouls committed for 48mpg of Rookies with more than 10 games under their belts.Seraphin - ROY!"
Posted by: member8

Same error with this stat: sample is too small. You have a guy averaging less than 10 minutes a game, who's only played in 39 of the games in the first place, and if we'd checked a month ago, he probably would have been closer to 6 or 7 minutes a game. Now you come along and extrapolate performance based on 48 minutes, which nobody plays anyway! You're basically magnifying his minutes by sixfold and pretending that has some relevance in predicting future performance.

Well, it doesn't. It's just idiocy to pretend it does.

So who's sock puppet are you, anyway?

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2011 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Mike Budenholzer: My top choice if the Wizards go the "longtime assistant" route. Longtime San Antonio Spurs assistant who is currently in his 16th year with the organization (14 as an assistant). Extremely innovative and the man who does a lot of the grunt work that makes the organization so successful. Hired at the same time as R.C. Buford in 1994. Served as an advance scout on the Olympic team in 2004, and began as a video coordinator.

I agree, This is the guy I would want next year as the new head coach.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Crawford said. "We just want to have a wining record as the season ends. Hopefully we can do that."

Jordan,

Hate to tell you but the Wizards are 16-47 and only have 19 games left so there is no way the Wizards will have a winning record as the season ends.

If Ted keeps Ernie and Flip in charge I doubt the Wizards will have a winning record for the next 3 years.

Posted by: bulletsfan78 | March 10, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's get serious about what it would take to get Demarcus Cousins in a Wizards uniform. I say our 1 pick and Blatche or McGee would be a starting point to be taken seriously by Sacramento. From a Wizards point of view, I make that trade in a heart beat. Would I throw in Nick Young to pull it off? I'd wait a few more heart beats and then pull the trigger. Dominant point guard + dominant big man = a solid foundantion for dominance.

Posted by: mugsybol | March 10, 2011 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Stop. Just stop. The Kings are not trading Cousins. And they certainly aren't trading him for anything the Wizards have to offer.

Seriously. Stop it.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2011 1:43 PM | Report abuse

So you want to trade Blatche/McGee, Young AND our 1st round pick?

For DeMarcus Cousins?

Is that you Isaiah?

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I'd do that deal in a heartbeat if the Kings were willing to do it. Of course, they wouldn't be.

Posted by: kalo_rama | March 10, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Let's get serious about what it would take to get Demarcus Cousins in a Wizards uniform. I say our 1 pick and Blatche or McGee would be a starting point to be taken seriously by Sacramento. From a Wizards point of view, I make that trade in a heart beat. Would I throw in Nick Young to pull it off? I'd wait a few more heart beats and then pull the trigger. Dominant point guard + dominant big man = a solid foundantion for dominance.

Posted by: mugsybol | March 10, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: djnnnou | March 10, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Budenholzer's name has come up recently at Sacramento. Some of that is rub-off from the Spurs' recent success, of course. He's been at San Antonio for 16 years and Popo's number one assistant since '07-08. Thing is that Sacramento and Washington are pretty dissimilar situations from SA. New Orleans, where Monty Williams went, would have been more alike.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2011 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for posting the Sloan link: I liked the comments from this panel --

"[Malcolm] Gladwell began by provocatively suggesting that one’s natural talent is often a hindrance to their development -- that is, in the sense that one might coast on native ability and never take the time to adequately develop their skill sets. The discussion spilled over into subjects such as the necessity of coachability within a player and the coming benefit of more comprehensive psychological evaluations of players. Van Gundy stated that he’d rather see a complete psychological evaluation of a player rather than a comprehensive advanced statistical breakdown of him."

"Looking to the future, the panel discussed how to evaluate talented prospects and they came to the conclusion that a team should seek out players who live and breathe basketball, the kind of guy who truly possesses a love of the game, as Brendan Jackson from CelticsHub writes:

"The panelists began discussing specific examples of players who failed to reach their potential while offering thoughts on why. Morey instantly thought of Marcus Banks. Drafted early in the first round, Banks was supposed to be the Celtics’ point guard of the future. With Celtics GM Danny Ainge known for making good draft choices, it seemed odd that he would miss so badly on a potential franchise cornerstone."

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2011 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Also from the Gladwell panel -

As Van Gundy said during the panel, “Soft, selfish or stupid. You can be one of these things, but you can’t be two.” If an athlete does have one of these qualities, it needs to be balanced with something positive.

So true.

Posted by: djnnnou | March 10, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

As Van Gundy said during the panel, “Soft, selfish or stupid. You can be one of these things, but you can’t be two.” If an athlete does have one of these qualities, it needs to be balanced with something positive.

Posted by: djnnnou | March 10, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Seriously...thinking about our players OBJECTIVELY. How many of them possess all 2? all 3? smh...

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Now we're comparing a guy you said was trash and didn't belong in the NBA at all to Dwight Howard and a 3rd year C...he's played what 38 games?

You probably dont need to be so sensitive about it. And when did I say Seraphin was "trash" who "didnt belong in the nba."

RPhilli said 'what's not to like' and I responded defensive rebounding. The FACT is so far Keveen is weak on the defensive boards, which is exactly what was considered one of the team's big weaknesses earlier in the season. And I also threw out Mcgee's dreb rate, which is 22%, not just Howard's.

But again, somebody asked 'what's not to like'...i didnt realize analysing player performance was some kind of offense

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

IMO, we made the right move by trading GA. We needed the cap space and we needed to put the past behind us as a city and a team and GA was a not so positive reminder of the past. JW was not going to learn what he needed to from GA as far as being a productive point guard in the NBA. GA is shoot first, pass second, and JW seems to be pass first and shoot second which is the way a point guard should think.

I agree that Flip and Ernie need to be replaced. I just think it is time to allow someone else with a different approach to build this team. With the picks and cap space we have now, I believe that TL could possibly get a really good GM and coach to take on the job.

However, I also believe that AB and JM need to go also. I think we have seen the best we are going to see out of the both of them and it is time to move on. NY seems to be progressing the best out of the 3 of them and I like his attitude as of late. He really seems to be working hard and fighting through screens on defense. I like a few of the young fellas we have now and along with JW and a couple good vets, there is hope for the future.

We just need a GM and coach that are up for the challenge and have the scouting knowledge to start us off on the right foot next year.

Posted by: TEliasB | March 10, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

You probably dont need to be so sensitive about it. And when did I say Seraphin was "trash" who "didnt belong in the nba."

RPhilli said 'what's not to like' and I responded defensive rebounding. The FACT is so far Keveen is weak on the defensive boards, which is exactly what was considered one of the team's big weaknesses earlier in the season. And I also threw out Mcgee's dreb rate, which is 22%, not just Howard's.

But again, somebody asked 'what's not to like'...i didnt realize analysing player performance was some kind of offense

Posted by: divi3 | March 10, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

It's only a crime when someone says something negative about Nick or JaVale or your boy AB last season. I just asked a counter question to your criticism. Like I said...how does he compare on the offensive boards to Kevin Love and D12? I'm curious.

You've said it more than once...that Seraphin doesn't belong in the NBA and should be in the D-league...I'll pull the threads if you like. Here's one:

Seraphin is terrible. Kid needs to head to the DLeague where he can get enough PT to develop his game and come back strong. Right now he looks lost, but isnt going to get the minutes needed to learn.


Posted by: divi3 | January 29, 2011 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I don't understand Larry thinking that keeping Gil would put us on the fast track to rebuilding....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I don't understand Larry thinking that keeping Gil would put us on the fast track to rebuilding....

Posted by: SDMDTSU | March 10, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"RPhilli said 'what's not to like' and I responded defensive rebounding. The FACT is so far Keveen is weak on the defensive boards..."

Weird thing is, you probably believe that. But any real performance evaluation of a young player like Kevin will require more (and longer) appearances. He hasn't played enough to establish himself. Everybody knows he's raw, but it's not like McGee or Blatche, where you have hundreds of appearances and chunk of consecutive starts off which to evaluate them.

It's just partisan cherry-picking to pretend you can objectively evaluate a kid like Seraphin at this point in his career. You know he's big and strong and very raw. That's about all you can say about him. Now Javale you can talk about, since the numbers might actually mean something... although how much is not yet completely certain.

Posted by: Samson151 | March 10, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

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